nuevo.html How I was converted in Nagual The election of the battles: Split One The selection of the battles: Split Two The blessing that torments The Noble Beast The Eternal champion Naguales and chamanes: The Basic Thing The Cycle of the hero The coherence Sane Commandos The secret of the sucess; split one of two The two hearts Extracts of my memories: 09/09/1999 The Buffalo skin Notes about the book "The second ring of power" Simplicity The Three Paths The fight against the system The leap to the unknown thing The petty Tyrants The Zen Police The Roachs The Shade of the Warrior/The warrior of the shadow Additional Techniques The time The Tolteca Branch The Three centers Three histories of chamanes Questions: Split Two Questions: Split One Datum Point The Powers Plants of Power Hungry Eyes Words of Power Use of the Words of Power Myths and realities about the Naguales in Mexico OPEN LETTER TO THE TENSEGRITY MEDICAL INSTRUCTORS The Magnetic Center History of some Brujos The Election of the Way Joy Of Living The Influence C The love and the hysteria The Calm Extract of my memories, 12 jun 1999 Extract of my memories, 30 march 1999 Who is Darakan Selfdefense Techniques Pain: friend or enemy? Two Worlds The Home The armies of the light The trip The Iniciatic Groups The prisioner of the stars FAQ of Nagualismo Version 1.000 Some Photos The Fury Notes in the second Group of the Nagual rafael How consulting the Iching The influence of 6 About You/Sobre usted About The X Factor Kirlian Photos The test The Fowls The freedom The Werewolf Lines or lineages of Naguales The danger of idealism Places of Power The power of a million seconds Modalities: The Basic thing The lightning rod The teams of Nagual without Nagual The multiple personality Extracts of my memories 03/Oct/95 The speeds The Yoes Notes of trip, split one Notes of trip : split two Disarmed Justice The three requirements | Lines or lineages of Naguales You complete three weeks I have received many questions on the same subject: The lines or lineages of Naguales. For reasons that I mentioned in History of my Alias, the lines of Naguales of which I have knowledge are four. As I mentioned in the page Chamanes and Naguales: The basic thing, these lines are the following ones: Branch 1) The old and therefore experienced and able Nagual but is in the state of Chiapas, its style is very similar to Don Genaro de Carlos Castaneda, and as it starts off of its form to be, remove your goods until complete to donate it to the poor men. Nevertheless the situation of almost Civil War makes very little recommendable try to find it until the Zapatista Army lays down the arms (those that can make damages are the soldiers and not rebellious them, very to the Mexican) Branch 2) According to which I know Castaneda DEATH the last year: Any person who says to you that she has contact with, wants to you to take the hair. I do not know surely who is the New Nagual. It seems that he is Emilio. Branch 3) I am. Branch 4) Don Rosendo. Years ago I lost the track to this branch, and recently I have heard of a Nagual called Don Rosendo, towards the mixteca, nevertheless I do not have many information of him except for some writings of Jorge Dájer (it is possible that you locate it in Internet, but nonmentions my name by any cause). Is a species of Nagualismo but oriented towards the sensuality and the direct experience induced by chemicals/Naturals substances. For some people this it is the best way, but my training causes that it opposes them so that they are dangerous potentially. Each line has followed its own methods, although they have points in common, according to the criterion of each Nagual of the line, little is little is made an inclination by certain methods with which greater affinity is had. On the branch of Carlos Castaneda, I will not speak because it has been spoken much of her in its own books, and does not serve as anything to enter discussions on that.
All the lines have experience with the points mentioned in books of Castaneda, but each one has focused to a a particular area. All true Nagual, in addition to the mentioned thing in other places, must have the following requirements:
Since I have mentioned before, with the Nagual Sebastián the track to the second line was lost. When my single training had read of Castaneda the Lessons of Don Juan and trip to Ixtlán. The Nagual Rafael did not read much, at least of these subjects, and everything what it said to me almost came from the training that received as well from the Nagual Andrés. This it as well said that to the structures like the body of the serpent and four winds and the four houses to me, did not have to do with the body of the Nagualismo, but with traditions of chamanes of EU, and customs of some towns or tribes Indians. At the moment I did not understand to that one talked about, because at that time not even those books had been translated. As far as the first lineage, I must say that the Present Nagual is a person extremely organized but who in my opinion the hair to the others takes much. Sometimes I have sent him students, since by the circumstances of our encounter he explained many to me of the principles of the affinity, reason why if arrives suction that reunites the conditions, and is but agreed to its nature, I will send it to him, as like me has sent suction that but is enabled for something called " change of modalities ", of which I will speak in another page. As far as Rosendo, a year after the death of the Nagual Rafael, I went to see it. One appeared like a rare farmer with a grown stomach and with a scent that I suppose was very ugly, because as soon as seated in the restaurant, our neighbors left the tables free. In summary, he is a person good natured, similar to as it describes Castaneda to Vicente. The details of their lineage do not correspond to me to me to disclose them, but I could state that it reunited the requirements to be a true Nagual, although its intensity was small, was perceivable. It gave the feeling me to be passing through problems or strong challenges. Due to a assembly of circumstances, months later I had to face in its own land one of the warriors of its group, the equivalent one to Silvio Manuel, the anonymous partner. After a battle that I will not brief here, my left arm was damaged extremely. Rosendo cured to me with great security, and said that the power had said to him that it put under me a test. Its conduct did not seem to me impeccable, because it lost to a valuable element of his group, and its general attitude was a little " excessively absents " In addition before going to me offered peyote to me, knowing the gravity of my wounds, and that are not due to use fungi at moments of physical or emotional weakness. When going way to house in my car, Wendish them got out of order and I returned to bleed. I had to do scale in a place three days, to discover that it had cleaned the wound but it did not disinfect it. Without commentaries. I can speak much of the lineages, but it does not come to the case. Single I can speak of my lineage with direct knowledge, and what it really matters of the differences between both, one is in the table that appears in this same page. When studying it with attention are obvious the differences between each branch. Alfonso Orozco - July 1999 ICQ 41907900 |