nuevo.html How I was converted in Nagual The election of the battles: Split One The selection of the battles: Split Two The blessing that torments The Noble Beast The Eternal champion Naguales and chamanes: The Basic Thing The Cycle of the hero The coherence Sane Commandos The secret of the sucess; split one of two The two hearts Extracts of my memories: 09/09/1999 The Buffalo skin Notes about the book "The second ring of power" Simplicity The Three Paths The fight against the system The leap to the unknown thing The petty Tyrants The Zen Police The Roachs The Shade of the Warrior/The warrior of the shadow Additional Techniques The time The Tolteca Branch The Three centers Three histories of chamanes Questions: Split Two Questions: Split One Datum Point The Powers Plants of Power Hungry Eyes Words of Power Use of the Words of Power Myths and realities about the Naguales in Mexico OPEN LETTER TO THE TENSEGRITY MEDICAL INSTRUCTORS The Magnetic Center History of some Brujos The Election of the Way Joy Of Living The Influence C The love and the hysteria The Calm Extract of my memories, 12 jun 1999 Extract of my memories, 30 march 1999 Who is Darakan Selfdefense Techniques Pain: friend or enemy? Two Worlds The Home The armies of the light The trip The Iniciatic Groups The prisioner of the stars FAQ of Nagualismo Version 1.000 Some Photos The Fury Notes in the second Group of the Nagual rafael How consulting the Iching The influence of 6 About You/Sobre usted About The X Factor Kirlian Photos The test The Fowls The freedom The Werewolf Lines or lineages of Naguales The danger of idealism Places of Power The power of a million seconds Modalities: The Basic thing The lightning rod The teams of Nagual without Nagual The multiple personality Extracts of my memories 03/Oct/95 The speeds The Yoes Notes of trip, split one Notes of trip : split two Disarmed Justice The three requirements | Naguales and Chamanes: split two In recent days I received several emails about the page " Chamanismo and Nagualismo, the basic thing ", some people say to me that there is no as much difference, or that it is not certain that they are completely different. Two or three requested but details to me, asi that I am going to explain them a little but. Any other doubt or commentary, put in my EMail. Before entering details, by principle of accounts chamanismo and nagualismo they are two different words, is to say the difference is until semantics. Chamán follows a search of religious/mystic character, the Nagual leaves of side everything what it is not practical. A Nagual that speaks and speech stops being Nagual, a Nagual acts, but it is not Nagual. This is the only occasion in which I will explain trying " to rationalize ". They must feel it, must include/understand it. As by Internet it is impossible to teach with the example, I will make the exception The notes that follow were taken during my learning between 1988 and 1990, the times that still were not Nagual. The text locked up with the symbol (* *) I consider that he is inexact and easily breakable, but to you you can be to them utiles in this stage. Please not to request explanations on the matter. (* *) rationalized text Begins / unsuitable (* *) As it commented to them, chamanes, that really would have to be " shamanes ", looks for through certain acts of faith to modify to the world, or to call in their aid to an advisor, or assistant, who allows to solve them what they by themselves cannot solve. Generally what it was requested was to see the future, or the treatment of a dear being The basic differences that exist between the two currents (Naugualismo and chamanismo) are these:
It could say many but things, because although there are similarities, chamanes are but similar to which Castaneda calls the old wizards. The Naguales is another thing. A Nagual is possible to try to understand to chamanes, but they are different worlds. Chamanes has their own way of life as well. (* *) rationalized text Finishes / unsuitable (* *) Like the person whom it trained to me was a Nagual and not chamán, my knowledge on chamanes are indirect, and come mainly from three sources: Classic and anthropological Literature on the subject, from " Chamanismo and the archaic techniques of the éxtasis ", of author who nonmemory, to " the golden branch " of Frazer and its derivatives. Talks with a person to which I will call " Javier M. ", as I knew and part our talks are a history that you will find in History of some wizards. The talks that arose with the Nagual that taught me (but or less what I commented before), after knowing Javier and to a healer of Jalisco. The division between chamanismo and Nagualismo is something real and abysmal, unfortunately most of the people considers that Nagualismo is only Carlos Castaneda. As I mentioned in another place, many years ago I saw myself without wanting it in a situation with circumstances outside the normal thing, and before giving account me, i was in this. I believe that there are too many people to whom it sounds to them pretty to be in the chamanismo or the Nagualismo, like those that leaves to the martial arts to the being white tape, and say to all that they know karate. An idea of martial arts comes to the mind: " black Tape is single a white tape that continues going to classes ". The people whom sincerely they love to enter certain subjects, are welcome if they pay the price (that never is monetary); it is decision of every one to choose if she is wanted to learn single to say " I am a warrior ", or if one looks for in serious. Types of teachers exist both. Nevertheless when speaking of the Nagualismo, Carlos Castaneda is a reference forced for good and badly, mentioning some points of the same one: On this the person said who taught to me " the problem is about which most of the people who read Castaneda thinks that to be Hunter, Warrior or Nagual degrees are single, but as to most of people it does not pass anything to him and although it does not happen to him either, it enchants to them to feel or to be called Warriors. He is something as well as selfthink welded to be in the salvation army. In the store it is necessary to pay the price the same before they give the things you, and here." Alfonso Orozco - April 1999 |
