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Chamanismo and Nagualismo, split three

These pages only are an approach to the way of chamanes. I write it because in recent days I have received many questions by electronic mail about chamanes and its world, but have not received no CONCRETE question, reason why single I can give a generalization of the doubts that I believed to understand in such. I can give greater precisions, but to do it, the questions must be necessary, for obvious reasons.

I must return to mention, am not a Chamán, am something completely different, therefore, it is possible that she commits gigantic errors to eyes of chamán. What follows perhaps they are mere speculations based on the little facts that I arrange, reason why is too general, or completely erroneous.


From where comes that mystical search that affects the human beings? IN Biology books appointment that the man was a monkey that lowered of the tree in the middle of certain search, and throughout hundreds of years it has evolved becoming a rational being.

This has created therefore a conflict; the modern man lives catched by the barrier on the rationality, and at the same time, he feels that there is something but and does not know that is.

Let us suppose for a moment that a person " stops the world ", the rational perspective of the things, and one is suddenly in the middle of a great unknown and desert city, surrounded by a wall. Some people would look for signboards and indications in the streets and the walls, and others would raise a building or tree to see but of the landscape. The search of these two people is the same one, but the approach to the problem is different: The person who looks for signboards in the streets tries to orient itself with isolated data, to be created a mental image of where this and to find the exit; the person who raises the building tries to see the general panorama for particular aims.

The person who looks for signals believes in the magical thought, supposing that he was lost in a cave or a forest, would try to find the exit dunking the finger in water to feel the air, whereas the person that rises the building, would look for the fungi which the fungi grow in arboles(grow generally in the North part of you hoist them, except for exceptions).

The difference between chamán and the Nagual is in which chamán hopes to receive a mystical illumination through signals, and the Nagual tries to leave where it is, to have the vision of where this, and the results are such.

As well as sometimes it is seen pass something through the tip of the eye, the Nagual it investigates and it classifies, it leaves it this of in case single, and it does not look for to cause it.

Recently I had a strange experience, but that already is common in my life; a friend commented something, I said to him that the person with whom she spoke was such person, and in spite of not knowing I no the two, knew that she was happening, and it was possible to me to identify people who single knew heard very.

Chamán however, tries to generate those phenomena, successfully variable.

That is to say, two approaches different from the forces exist that we do not understand or we cannot explain:

a) Chamán it thinks that in our world forces of the nature exist, that we can dominate and control,

b) a Nagual thinks that the people are those that make the difference.

Both ways are right when occurring account that is something but of which we see (if no, because we would be here), and as well as the Chamán tries to include/understand those forces to use them, the Nagual of plane ignores them, it lives in the world on every day, and discovers the magic in the people and the things created by the man like species, and not in the nature. Chamán looks for control on that magic, and the Nagual, if it finds the magic, considers an instrument for the freedom.

A Nagual laugh of the paranormal influences, because he does not have time to think about them; the life is too short, and if these exist they will cross in his way.

Arriving at this point is possible to say that chamanes trying to reach critical moments, usually they spend its nervous system until irreparable levels, losing the concentration capacity. The Nagual looks for the opposite, it is concentrated in an objective and not in the search of in case.

When the Nazi tanks entered France, the freedom stopped being something intangible to become something precious that had been cleared him the man; I am sure that chamán had been put to think about the causes of the problem, and the Nagual had tried to create an effect.

In all type search two ways exist, the outside and the interior. The inner way is the one that looks for the signals in the streets, and the outside is the one that tries to watch above of the wall.

Returning to the example of the monkey that lowered of the tree, they are left two ways clear; to remain in the tree or to lower.

According to as I see it, some monkeys let see the sky and you hoist to see them the bananas that fell to the floor, they tried to lower to take them, and perhaps not they could return to raise the tree. With the passage of time the monkeys had to fit their field of vision to survive, and began to see towards other earth, which I take them to find other monkeys, and to fight and to defend themselves. The monkey learned to close the hands and to take the things, but mainly, it could see things from the ground that could not see from the tree.

This evolution takes to two ways of life different when trying to raise the tree, a life way feels in the floor and calls to the forces of the nature so that they raise it, or let grow another tree. The other way of life, it turns around to see of where fell bananas to the tree.

The important thing is that the fruit there this.

The present man forgets it, because at the level of his eyes there is a barrier that does not let see to him beyond of the daily problems; chamán overcomes the barrier returning to its origins, and turning around the same glance towards if and to the mother Earth, and the Nagual overcomes it watching after where it can BREAK the barrier, or watching at the Father Sky. Both ways arrive at the same place but by different landscape; they chamán can think about climbing a tree to pass the wall, and the nagual looks for like creating a tree.

The actions of the man seed seeds, these grow and create trees; as long as one has stood in fertile land at the suitable moment. Through you hoist the man one feeds and it constructs its house; but always of way similar to the mustard tree, the small seed but of all creates the tree but great, if it is the suitable moment, and it seeds the appropriate person.

That it makes different from a tree of the firewood? The life.

One of the most chamanic interesting legend was gathered by the poet Alejandro Casona in a play, and the idea is this: (paráfrasis mine)

The people are like the trees; they feed themselves on the light of the sun and the Earth sap, and you hoist them of good wood are not destroyed by the ray or the mountain range.

The trees die of foot.

These is the reason by that chamanes, that passes great part of their life with the crossed legs, at the final moments they request that its deathbed rises to them of the floor or.

Because in that there is no difference between both ways, chamanes and the naguales, they will always die of foot.

You can consult:

  1. The Ocult: Colin Wilson
  2. Any book that speaks about the scientific method and the inductive method.
  3. Alejandro Casona: The trees die of foot

Alfonso Orozco - May 1999
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