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From: gaums | Posted: 12/1/2003 5:02:50 PM | Message Detail
I was reading this book that said that you could affect someones mind(make people turn around with your mind, make people think that they are in love with you, brain wash them)if you drift in to a trance and produce thata waves(?). Since lucid dreaming happens when you produce this waves, is it possible to mess with someones's mind?
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From: brellik | Posted: 12/1/2003 5:17:10 PM | Message Detail
i had my first one, it was scary and i was about to be killed by some lady but then i changed her expression from evil to happy, started to fly a little bit, then my cousin woke me up
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From: Kuja9998 | Posted: 12/1/2003 6:04:22 PM | Message Detail
Yea.... often nightmares that are on the verge of being scary but not jump right at you scary induce lucid dreams because the mind wants to get out but doesn't jolt out due to the lack of surprize horror thus it eases you awake in a manner that allows you to become lucid.
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From: GameSavior | Posted: 12/1/2003 7:31:08 PM | Message Detail
Hey Kuja.

I was the guy IMing you with all the annoying questions, remember? ;)

Anyway ever since I started trying, which has been about two days ago, I have been remembering my dreams. Last night was really wierd. I remember my dream but I kept waking up in the night with an immense feeling of tiredness. I think I may of gone lucid for a second but I'm not sure.

Any advice?
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From: shekter | Posted: 12/1/2003 7:42:12 PM | Message Detail
Ive been trying to have a lucid dream since this summer when i first found this board. I never did those reality checks regularly so I never became aware for even a second. Tonight I finally decided to try the subliminal message thingy... so hypnotizing. Hopefully I'll have one soon...
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From: Lighthawk X | Posted: 12/1/2003 8:08:44 PM | Message Detail
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From: punktank45 | Posted: 12/1/2003 9:50:05 PM | Message Detail
Kamehameha!!!!
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From: Acrolon | Posted: 12/1/2003 10:45:02 PM | Message Detail
I tried it a while ago but the dream was just more vivid, I couldn't control anything... any suggestions? I used the site by the way
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From: LepreConnery | Posted: 12/2/2003 8:51:45 PM | Message Detail
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From: ReelBigPhisher | Posted: 12/2/2003 9:51:08 PM | Message Detail
I have a question, I literally cant realise its a dream while im dreaming. Everything just seems to happen, what am I doing wrong?
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From: Kroin | Posted: 12/4/2003 1:06:20 AM | Message Detail
Okay, I have a bit of a problem.

I looked at the subliminal message thing for 10 minutes awhile ago. For some reason, after about 5 minutes of it, my heart rate was REALLY fast.

So then, I go straight to bed. After about 15 seconds, I start to experience REM (if that IS when your eye like, twitchs rapidly or something). Anyway, it felt like my eye was in pain, so I freaked out and stopped.

Uh, any tips for getting rid of this fear?
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From: DWBoy | Posted: 12/4/2003 10:57:55 AM | Message Detail
I hear that dairy products like cheese and milk will also help you lucid dream, although I've never had one myself.
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From: bombermaster2 | Posted: 12/4/2003 3:28:13 PM | Message Detail
For me, lucid dreaming is COMPLETELY random. I'd say a 1 in 15 chance.

Also, WHAT is the point of the subliminal message thing?
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From: Dark Shiek | Posted: 12/4/2003 5:30:12 PM | Message Detail
I hear that dairy products like cheese and milk will also help you lucid dream, although I've never had one myself.

I'm glad my tactics got through to someone =)

Yeah, dairy products have been shown to help, at least they helped me when I was just starting to lucid dream. I also read a few sites about it. Drink a glass of milk about 30-45 minutes before sleeping, and it can help. Of course, this will do absolutely nothing unless you already have down the other steps, like a dream diary and reality tests. It's more of an "increase chances from 1/15 to 1/12" kind of thing. It only helps you if you already know what to do.
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From: kiljaeden | Posted: 12/4/2003 6:58:52 PM | Message Detail
I think I had a lucid dream once but I am not quite sure. I NEVER remember my dreams, maybe like once a year I will but not often at all.
OK in the dream I was in the neighborhood I live in now, I recognized it in the dream. I could fly, well maybe not fly exactly but I would run and jump about 50 ft in the air then just slowly glide down to the ground. I remember "jumping" many times in my dream, each time I would fly from 100 yards to a mile before touching the ground. I was aware in my dream that what I was doing was amazing. In the dream I could feel the wind blowing by me. I felt like I was in control. Kinda weird though, I remember being bothered because nobody was around to see me fly, it was night in my dream and I didnt see another person the entire dream.
I totally felt like I was in control of all my actions during the dream, but when I woke up I was sad because I couldnt really fly. I guess it was one of those dreams that just seem so real you are surprised when you wake up to find that it isnt.

Is it still a lucid dream if I believe that the dream is real? I thought lucid dreaming is when you KNOW you are dreaming, well I kinda knew I was dreaming during the dream, but was depressed when I awoke to find that I couldnt fly.
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From: nightowl88317 | Posted: 12/4/2003 7:15:44 PM | Message Detail
While Looking at the subliminal messages can I losten to music at the same time? Staring at something for 5-10 minutes is extremely boring for me.
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From: Kuja9998 | Posted: 12/4/2003 8:19:01 PM | Message Detail
For the person afraid of his eyes moving rapidly and his heart jumping out of his chest while looking at subliminal thing.... Make sure you arn't prone to have a seizure I'd hate to have a warrent for my arrest running around here for involuntary manslaughter. Anyways... just relax nothing will happen to you by watching the subliminal message... heres a trick watch the subliminal thing than watch about 30 minutes of tv or one tv block. Then go to bed. Then you won't be too excited but still have the influences in you. Might take a week to achive lucidy mainly because of your excitement.
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From: StankWilly | Posted: 12/4/2003 8:39:37 PM | Message Detail
BUMPIOS
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From: kiljaeden | Posted: 12/4/2003 9:08:20 PM | Message Detail
Hey Kuja, was the dream I posted up there ^^ a lucid dream?

Just curious, I didnt mean to have it, but it seems like it would be classified as one.
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From: The Karn | Posted: 12/5/2003 1:27:50 AM | Message Detail
tag, i gotta go to bed, i gotta read this tomorrow
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From: Yukio | Posted: 12/5/2003 1:41:46 AM | Message Detail
"I was reading this book that said that you could affect someones mind(make people turn around with your mind, make people think that they are in love with you, brain wash them)if you drift in to a trance and produce thata waves(?). Since lucid dreaming happens when you produce this waves, is it possible to mess with someones's mind?"

Yes, it's possible.
Remember the old hypnosis!?

"During REM, the body of the sleeper produces neurochemicals that essentially paralyze the sleeper, theoretically so that the sleeper does not get up and act out ones' dream. (We do dream in the other states of sleep, called Non-REM dreaming, and sleep walking and talking, interestingly takes place in the slowest-brainwave sleep of all, Stage 4).

The occasion arises wherein the sleepers' consciousness will "awaken" (I'm simplifying this all of course for the sake of brevity) while the body is still paralyzed, producing the effect we address here. When this happens relax, don't get upset, it's all very natural. One has a tendency, until one becomes used to the effects through repetition, to produce all kinds of scenarios to explain what is happening during these states. Keep in mind that this is also the state where one can, through training, take advantage of the perceived state and have Out of Body Experiences, lucid dreams (where one is aware in a dream that one is dreaming and so can exert varying amounts of control over the mentation) and can also have a greater chance of producing positive Psi effects such as clairvoyance and "shared dreams" either with ones' sleeping spouse or a distant sleeper. So it's all very natural and certainly is nothing you should let your imagination get away from you. When it occurs again simply observe and learn and relax. It will pass very quickly once the brain sends out the proper neurotransmittal chemicals that allow the body to awaken to match the brains awareness."

http://www.legendsmagazine.net/90/askpsi.htm

"Evolution into OBE or LDE:
Awareness during Sleep Paralysis, if continued, will often evolve into an Out-of-Body Experience or a Lucid Dream Experience. The following are indications that the Awareness of the ASP experiencer has brought about an OBE or LDE:
Indications of OBE/LDE
Dissociation: Sensations of drifting, feelings of floating above, or being floated away from, the body, Sensations of flying or of being moved by a powerful force such as the wind.
Seeing One's Body: Seeing one's own inert body from an external viewpoint, usually from above.
Passing thru Walls: The experiencer may walk, fly or be floated thru walls, windows or the ceiling of rooms.
Interpretation of the Experience: A recognition of being Out of the Body or of being in any anomalous state. Any attempt to interpret the experience while it is going on indicates at least a degree of reflective awareness."

http://trionica.com/asp/phenomena/

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From: metroids rule | Posted: 12/6/2003 8:36:38 AM | Message Detail
I made more progress last night.

I was dreaming of being in my grandmother's house. I was locked in a room that didn't exist in real life for some reason, I think I did something bad. This "room" is connected to the basement, and was, in my dream, the only connection. (I have always been a LITTLE bit spooked of being in grandmother's house alone.) So, I open some kind of wire door to let a little more light in. Suddenly, I hear voices that say they are coming for me from the basement. I bang hard, yelling, and Mom opens the door. I leap out, followed by a zombie. More zombies come, so we lock ourselves in the bathroom. They can't get in, but the window's too high a drop to the ground, so we can't get out. All of a sudden I'm like "Hey! I'm dreaming!" So I walk out, attack a few zombies, and then change the scene to a beach. (First successful spin-scene change.) The sun is setting, and, I try again a previosly failed feat- changing into a hawk. I close my eyes, and say to myself "I can DO this!" Just like that, I transformed! It also gave me more confidence in flying, something I couldn't do well before. I dipped at first, but I got the hang of it. I couldn't feel any wings, but still managed to use them. Two tactics I got done today.
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From: Videogaming | Posted: 12/6/2003 1:04:59 PM | Message Detail
Hrm, I had a dream last night where I knew I was dreaming...It felt like I was concious, I was thinking very rationally. I didn't want to wake up yet, so I just continued with the dream, no lucid stuff except I once darted upwards for about a kilometer then came back down(like flying, sort of; I've been doing this in several recent dreams), then I decided to force myself to wake up. I "woke up" in a bed in a hotel room, which was another dream. Does that qualify as lucidity? It was a complete scene change...
From: Drunken Sober | Posted: 12/6/2003 5:50:03 PM | Message Detail
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From: NateJu1727 | Posted: 12/6/2003 6:16:01 PM | Message Detail
If you are walking in your lucid dream, and have sleepwalking problems, but since your legs cannot perform the naturual walking motions in bed, will you feel the restraints of the covers in the lucid dream and be unable to move?
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From: meltdown71835 | Posted: 12/6/2003 6:47:35 PM | Message Detail
Does anybody know how exactly you can change your form because id like to see how its like to be a girl or a dog, also can someone confirm the info someone posted about certain waves that allow manipulation of others?
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From: VampSlayer246 | Posted: 12/6/2003 10:19:24 PM | Message Detail
I tried a transformation once.
I tried turning into a whale.
I couldnt.
instead I turned into a little fish.
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From: rogue2131 | Posted: 12/6/2003 11:06:05 PM | Message Detail
What's a good way to know if you're dreaming?
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From: VampSlayer246 | Posted: 12/6/2003 11:06:33 PM | Message Detail
Hit yourself.

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From: Matt Hardy Leg Drop | Posted: 12/7/2003 4:31:46 PM | Message Detail
Bump this cool
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