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| From: MatserChief06
| Posted: 1/9/2004 7:43:09 PM | Message
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I talked to my Psyche professor about this, and
he says that as far as he's concerned, lucid dreaming is impossible.
He says that the mind is more or less unconscious of what it's
thinking when sleep is occurring, and to have consciousness during
sleep would be the equivalent of being awake and just imagining
things. It makes sense if you think about it. I mean, I can just
close my eyes and imagine doing this or flying or whatever, but I'm
not sleeping.
The man does have a doctorate degree....What
do you guys think?
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| From: FruMp
| Posted: 1/9/2004 7:45:30 PM | Message
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sleep paralysis happens to everyone to stop them
acting out their dreams when they are asleep and when it doesnt work
that is when u get sleep walkers/talkers etc. Also sometimes
paralasyis will kick in early before you go to sleep and that is a
fairly common thing, happens to lots of people.
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| From: Kuja9998
| Posted: 1/10/2004 6:54:07 AM | Message
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Outlandish? this isn't real life my friend this
is a dream... a dream in which you know everything around you is
just a figment of your subconcious. ANYTHING is possble and several
of the dreams that were posted here seem rather boring to people
that might have even MORE outlandish and true experiances. So to put
it short if you havn't done it then don't critque it.
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| From: Videogaming
| Posted: 1/10/2004 9:06:33 AM | Message
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Everybody dreams every night...you just don't
remember them. I remember my dreams in detail probably 3 times a
week, and I just remember vague outlines/images for the rest of
them.
You can daydream of flying, but can you feel
when you're doing it? The balance mechanism in your brain (the
cerebellum i think) is active when dreaming, so you actually feel as
if you're flying. I've done it a few times, so I know what it feels
like.
Although I have a suspicion that there exists something
between daydreams and real dreams, that occurs when you are
semiconcious, not quite awake, not quite asleep. I find that I have
absolute control over those little dreams... |
| From: mafiaboss
| Posted: 1/10/2004 7:23:57 PM | Message
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How long should it take to start having lucid
dreams, for a person that hasn't remembered a dream in
years?
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| From: Neosquirrel
| Posted: 1/10/2004 8:31:29 PM | Message
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I just discovered this today. Sounds quite cool,
but I have a question. When you are in the process of lucid
dreaming, you are technically SLEEPING, right? So your body gets
rest for the day ahead?
Also, I assume that you still wake up on
your own.
Well, I'll try it. ^_^
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of your dreams will come true... |
| From: Videogaming
| Posted: 1/10/2004 8:50:28 PM | Message
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| Just out of curiousity, what did you all answer
for today's Poll of the Day (Do you ever dream about video games.) I
put occasionally, because they do turn up now and then. |
| From: I3LAD3MAST3R
| Posted: 1/10/2004 9:06:23 PM | Message
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| well I automatically do my LUCID dreaming, I
dont try to make it happen but it does. But the only thing thats too
ahrd is sexual stuff... |
| From: ChupaChipmunk
| Posted: 1/10/2004 9:36:25 PM | Message
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Nice. (saves to a file for further
reading)
I'll have to try that later. I never
dream, but over winter break, I would wake up, fall back into a very
light sleep, and actually dream. These dreams were painfully close
to being lucid. I actually realized I was dreaming a few times, but
then I woke up. Darn.
If I have only sleepwalked
(sleptwalked?) twice, and I leave the door to my room (in the
basement, not near any stairs) closed, would you advise to avoid
lucidity?
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| From: Kuja9998
| Posted: 1/11/2004 9:36:40 PM | Message
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Everyone dreams you should try to spend about
15-20 minutes when you first wake up to think very hard about what
happened last night. Usually you have a very very faint image of
something after about 5 minutes and over the next 10-30 you are able
to shape it into an entire dream. Doing this consistantly GREATLY
improves your dream recall and your ability to recognize that you
are dreaming.
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| From: You
Spoony Bard | Posted: 1/12/2004 1:50:44 AM | Message
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I think I may start a dream journal tonight. For
a long time before this, I've been actively trying to prevent myself
from remembering my dreams, but I'll try a few of the techniques
mentioned here, and see if I can't get results.
Thank you,
Kuja. You are truly a god among men.
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| From: Videogaming
| Posted: 1/12/2004 5:12:06 PM | Message
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Wow, that's high praise...
Why would you
not want to remember your dreams? I started a dream journal a year
and a half ago or so, and I remember nearly every dream in some
detail now...I am fascinated with the stories that I dream up (some
have good short story potential), and the frequency with which some
people show up is interesting also. |
| From: SoulLeGris
| Posted: 1/12/2004 6:54:13 PM | Message
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This is a pseudo msg more intended as a bump,
but one thing I've remembered since my last posting is something
from my childhood. When I was young, I would always know my
nightmares were coming because before each and every one of them I
remembered I would see me in my bed in my room, and at the foot of
my bed would be a giant jack-in-the-box. Out would pop a scary
jester head and upper body on an elastic springy body, and it always
frightened me and seemed evil. After seeing all of this, my dream
would start, and it would always be a nightmare.
Also, I found a
good site for recording and sharing dreams online:
http://www.xanga.com/
I've gotten into it lately. It might help
people find their dream signs also. before using it I was struggling
to find them, and now I knwo my friends and school are always
dominant plus a handful of others. |
| From: PepeCamello
| Posted: 1/12/2004 7:33:48 PM | Message
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tags for school viewage
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| From: gaums
| Posted: 1/12/2004 7:45:41 PM | Message
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I posted this a few posts back, but never got
answered. Can you "brain wash" people when you have a lucid dream by
reenacting what you want the person to. I read that you can
influence a persons thoughts by going to a a certain wave state, and
since lucid dreaming happens doring this waves I thoughtthat you
could brain wash someone.
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| From: FruMp
| Posted: 1/12/2004 8:56:29 PM | Message
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I talked to my Psyche professor about this,
and he says that as far as he's concerned, lucid dreaming is
impossible. He says that the mind is more or less unconscious of
what it's thinking when sleep is occurring, and to have
consciousness during sleep would be the equivalent of being awake
and just imagining things. It makes sense if you think about it. I
mean, I can just close my eyes and imagine doing this or flying or
whatever, but I'm not sleeping.
bah he is probly an old
coot that has gone senile. I would have thought that nearly everyone
has had one, or at least a dream where you remember it very well and
it seemed quite realistic.
i had this freaky dream last nite
where i got attacked by this really smart snake in a random house
and it bit my foot and ate 2 of my toes and then i was transported
back in time 7 days and i got my toes back, lol i watched that 7
days show before i went to bed.
Anyways i think with alot of
effort it is possible to train yourself to dream lucidly, i have
been trying quite hard every nite for about a week and the dreams
are becoming clearer and easier to remember, this stuff is alot of
fun...
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"They used to be the power, now they're just a
bunch of guys wishing for the old days" - Thief: The Dark
Project |
| From: Bacaw
| Posted: 1/13/2004 3:40:03 PM | Message
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h
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| From: Kuja9998
| Posted: 1/13/2004 6:11:32 PM | Message
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Yes actually at a reasonably young age 8 or so I
also tried to stop myself from dreaming rather successfully as I
never really had any memorable dreams that were in a coherent
fashion. (eg. Everything thinks in your sleep and thinking while
sleeping is a dream however the Kind i had were not interpreted
information when you don't remember it)
So i understand your
position. However, after the age of 12-13 around your physical
maturity you no longer should have nightmares. So go ahead and jump
on the dreaming train.
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| From: Drifter
X Sileighty | Posted: 1/13/2004 6:26:27 PM | Message
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5, Things not to do. I highly suggest that you
do not engage in any kind of sexual or sensual intercourse while
dreaming.
Oops, that must have been why I woke up too soon in the
only two lucid dreams I had.
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| From: Kuja9998
| Posted: 1/13/2004 6:28:51 PM | Message
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Indeed... I don't say things unless i'm pretty
damn well sure of myself. (Even if I'm not right)
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| From: Damien1600
| Posted: 1/13/2004 6:42:09 PM | Message
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| Can you try to leave your house in the lucid
dream? |
| From: Kuja9998
| Posted: 1/13/2004 8:26:12 PM | Message
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Depends what the setting for the lucid dream
was... often because your subconsious not prepared to leave the
house you will leave then fade. or just not be able to find a way to
leave. However, I usually can just find a window and fly crashing
through it.... so realistic that i am moving so fast that the screen
is pressed against me and while i fly i got to throw it
aside.
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| From: FrozenCat
| Posted: 1/13/2004 8:47:19 PM | Message
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Hey, thanks for your reply in my topic Kuja.
Anyways, I'm going to try that lucid thing again, the subliminal
one. But first, I have to figure if theres headset capabilities for
my speakers.
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| From: Deaths
spirit | Posted: 1/14/2004 8:13:37 PM | Message
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bump on a
hump
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| From: Kuja9998
| Posted: 1/17/2004 9:38:30 PM | Message
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The sound shouldn't make much of a difference on
the subliminal thing.
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| From: jeb
the hick | Posted: 1/17/2004 10:19:59 PM | Message
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The following is a guide i found on
WinMX
There are many ways to have lucid dreams. Some people
can do it naturally, other people have to try very hard to
accomplish the lucid state.
However,
Everybody can do
it!
If you really want to have lucid dreams it is advisable
that you don’t lead a stressful life. You must have the time for
yourself and for your dreams.
I’ve had periods that writing down
my dreams alone took 2 hours. Nowadays I have a busier life and I
see that my lucid dreams have decreased.
I would advise to start
the exercises in a quiet period. Maybe in your vacation.
Once you have had your first lucid dreams you will see that
the next ones are easier and sometimes you will become lucid
completely by surprise.
Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams
(MILD) Technique------------------------------
Set your mind
to awaken from dreams and recall them. When you awaken from a dream,
recall it as completely as you can.
While returning to
sleep, concentrate single-mindedly on your intention to remember to
recognize that you’re dreaming. Tell yourself: "Next time I’m
dreaming, I want to remember I’m dreaming.". Try to feel that you
really mean it. Focus your thoughts on this idea alone. If you find
yourself thinking about anything else, let it go and bring your mind
back to your intention to remember.
At the same time,
imagine that you are back in the dream you just woke from (or
another one you have had recently if you didn't remember a dream on
awakening), but this time you recognize that it is a dream. Look for
a dreamsign. When you see it say to yourself: "I'm dreaming!" and
continue your fantasy. Imagine yourself carrying out your plans for
your next lucid dream. For example, if you want to fly in your lucid
dream, imagine yourself flying when you come to the point in your
fantasy that you realize you are dreaming.
Repeat steps 2
and 3 until your intention is set, then let yourself fall asleep.
If, while falling asleep, you find yourself thinking of anything
else, repeat the procedure so that the last thing in your mind
before falling asleep is your intention to remember to recognize the
next time you are dreaming.
Taking
naps-------------------------
Or, as you can also call it,
adjusting your sleep patterns.
For example, set your alarm
clock a few hours before you actually have to get up. When you are
awoken, read something about lucid dreaming, do a reality check, or
whatever, to keep your mind on lucid dreaming. Then go to sleep
again with the intention to have a lucid dream.
This also
works if you have woken up naturally and are still dozing a little.
You don't have to get up so you doze off to sleep. If at that time
you keep in the back of your mind that you are dreaming you have a
high change of a lucid dream.
If you can time your REM-cycles
(the time in which the actual dreaming takes place), you will be
able to set your alarm clock exactly on a time when you have
finished dreaming.
Other ways to become
lucid---------------------------------
Look at your
hands
A many used technique and one that seems to work pretty
good is to look at your hands. Just remember to look at your hands
and the moment you do it you know that it is a dream.
The
best way to do this is to consciously look at your hands during the
day and ask yourself whether you are dreaming or not.If you do this
often enough you will look at your hands in a dream too.
Then you can realize that you are dreaming.
---
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| From: jeb
the hick | Posted: 1/17/2004 10:20:26 PM | Message
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Dirty tricks
Before you go to sleep, drink a
lot. In that way, you will have to go to the bathroom somewhere in
the middle of the night.
Lie down, close your eyes and
concentrate. Say to yourself that whenever you are in a bathroom or
looking for one, you will be dreaming. In most cases you will have a
dream in which you are looking for a bathroom or are in one. It is
then that you can realise that you are dreaming.
warning: It
can be possible that you're so convinced everything is real you'll
wet your bed...
How did I get here?
During the day
constantly ask yourself:"how did I get here?", and playback the
actions that got you were you are now.
If you do this long
enough you will eventually ask yourself this question in a dream.
And then you really cannot remember how you got there. Bingo, you
must be dreaming!
Once I dreamt I was climbing on a
building. Then I asked myself:"how did I get here anyway?" and
really couldn't think of how I got up there. Convinced I was
dreaming, I jumped off the building and flew away.
Lucid
Nutrition
There is some Dream Food around, try some out :)
Orange juice
Orange juice, or any pure fruit juice helps
your nervous system to stay active, while your muscles "sleep". This
way you have more vivid dreams, and increased change of a lucid one
as well.
Milk and Cheese
Milk and cheese have amino acids
in which have been found to stimulate the production of melatonin, a
neurotransmitter associated with sleep and dreaming. So warm milk
before bedtime might really help you sleep after all!
Lettuce
A Mirror Traveler wrote:
I have found that
lettuce is a great stimulator of dreams, in general. (I'm not too
familiar with the lucid variety of dreams.) I don't know how or why
it works, but i know of two friends who have confirmed that lettuce
did indeed either induce memorable dreams, or aided in remembering
them. I have tried this on three occasions and it worked all three
times.
Mustard and pickles
Another account from a Mirror
Traveler:
I was listening to a local radio station, one morning
on the way to school. They reported that a dream researcher found
that if you eat a tablespoon of musterd and a medium size dill
pickle, immediately before bed, it will induce lucid dreams. Of
course I tried it, well it worked! (The third time) Now I do it
about 1-2 a week, the results are good, good enough to make my-self
gag down a tablespoon of musterd. I wish that I could remember the
researchers name or where he was from. I told my friends to try it
and they get about the same results, sometimes it works. For me
sometimes is better then no times.
---
Jeb the Hick -
Lieutenant of Stampead - Board 26560
Knight from Z-tack
(5830) Z-Tokes |
| From: jeb
the hick | Posted: 1/17/2004 10:21:12 PM | Message
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Ice Cream
Someone on a.d.l. once reported
that they tended to have lucid dreams after eating ice cream. Could
be the amino acids again, or the temperature of the ice cream
causing your digestive system to go haywire and thus raise your
overall arousal level...
Popcorn
Another alleged lucid
dream inducer. No idea why it might work...
Fish
This is
mentioned in the alt.dreams FAQ. Perhaps something to do with the
protein contained in it again?
Staying
lucid---------------------------------
Once you realize you are
dreaming, it is sometimes difficult to remain lucid, or even to
remain dreaming. Here are some techniques to keep you dreaming:
remain calm
Don't get too exited. If you do, chances are
you will wake up after the immediate realisation that you are
dreaming.
spinning
Twirl around your own axis (you won't
get dizzy) and say to yourself:"The next scene will be a dream."
When you stop spinning, if it is not obvious that you are dreaming,
do a reality test. Even if you think you are awake, you may be
surprised to find that you are still dreaming!
look at your
hands or the ground.
Focus at a stable reference point in the
dream, like your hands or the ground. This helps you stabilize
yourself in the dream.
rub your hands together
The
rubbing will give you a vivid sense of movement and friction. While
rubbing your hands repeat to yourself: The next scene will be a
dream.
According to research the spinning technique is the
most efficient, followed by the rubbing-hands technique.
---
Jeb the Hick - Lieutenant of Stampead - Board
26560
Knight from Z-tack (5830) Z-Tokes |
| From: Kuja9998
| Posted: 1/17/2004 10:52:10 PM | Message
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Thanks for giving another source that further
backs up my methods. ;)
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| From: Kuja9998
| Posted: 1/19/2004 10:26:54 AM | Message
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