Tuesday, 15 November 2005
Trackback Alliance II
Since Tuesday Still Seems To Be Unfilled
I Will Continue Open Tracks One More Day
When I first started upon my journey through the blogverse I created a Statement of Purpose
Now upon reading it, one can realize that I did not hold to every detail of that original statement, but from it's basic premise, I have never swayed, in my belief that the Blogs are in fact the Committees of Correspondence of the Second American Revolution.
And that it is a Revolution of Information, no longer can we afford and allow elite gateways to control what we can see, hear and discuss.
One of the most important discoveries I make in those early days was the website of Samantha Burns, which included a unique informal community of bloggers, who not only linked to each other but actually browsed and read the blogs they linked to.
Later I was honored to be allowed to join another more formal blog community. At that time I decided that while I welcomed blogs that wanted to link to me, I was not that interested in simply joining blogrolls to add links. After that I made no more attempts to join any blog alliances. I have been kept busy supporting the linkages I have and at times I feel guilty that I cannot get around to all the websites on my blogroll as I could when it was smaller.
So why do I welcome this recent invitation to join the Open Trackback Alliance? Have I reconsidered my former decision?
No I am posting and joining this Alliance because it is RIGHT for me to do so.
Because it FULFILLS my original Statement of Purpose that the Blogs are indeed the 21st Century Committees of Correspondence, whose duty and honor it is to SHARE information, thoughts, ideas, news and to discuss the same. To diligently search for the truths that lie behind the distortions and half-truths of the Legacy Media.
What the blogs associated with the Samantha Burns site did informally, and without structure, this Alliance only aids and structures. There is in fact no conflict between what I do now, and what I decided to do sometime ago.
For I believe that those bloggers who find their way, here and in particular from the Blogs associated with Sam.
HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
Some of us are more Serious, some of us are more lighthearted and some post the common ordinary things that make one smile and recall that Life without the simple things to treasure is meaningless.
And it is important that all have a platform from which to speak.
As I understand this process you can link to this post and trackback to this post on ANY subject or post you think important. It is open. I will repeat this every Monday.
The Committees of Correspondence welcomes your intelligent comments. And also welcomes you to join the
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Monday, 14 November 2005
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Sunday, 13 November 2005
Intifada of Eurabia Day 17
The violence in France, Denmark, Belgium, and Germany appears to have spread to Greece.
This in from !No Pasaran!
in What Trotsky meant by "Solidarity"
posted by Joe N. @ 3:19 PM
Prepared to fight to the last innocent bystander, the dependably irritable and violent Greek leftists engage in a sympathy violence:
Greek anarchists attack French schools, back riotersATHENS: Groups of anarchists broke windows, threw paint and spray-painted slogans at French cultural institutes in Athens and northern Greece in support of rioters in France, Greek police said on Friday.
About 50 people, wearing hoods and helmets and carrying red and black flags, threw stones, spark plugs and bottles filled with paint at the central Athens French Institute on Friday morning, breaking windows and damaging parked vehicles. Police said there were no injuries and the group dispersed quickly after the attack.
Another group attacked the French institute in the northern city of Thessaloniki on Thursday evening, smashing windows while classrooms were filled with language students. They spray-painted “Rioters Are Right” on the front of the building.
“They just appeared out of nowhere, I think about 70 or 80 of them. They smashed everything and we just sat there terrified,” one student told reporters. Poor French suburbs have been hit by two weeks of rioting. French police have arrested hundreds of people in what is considered the most serious unrest since student-led protests in 1968.>
One question that comes to mind, when on considers the absence of certain words in coverage of these
riots/insurrections and the continual usage of euphemisms such as youths
is what could the ethnic and cultural ties be of these anarchists
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Saturday, 12 November 2005
For the Greater Good
Should it come as any surprise that in a Socialist leaning Government, the Greater Good can be interpreted as accepting that the safety of the common citizen is expendable, to prevent an advantage to political opponents?
From !No Pasaran!
Now that's what I call Faux News
posted by U*2 @ 4:54 AM
The Managing Director of LCI French cable TV news (owned by TF1) admits to
censuring coverage of the riots in French to avoid helping the extreme right. The extreme right, mythical (and largely inexistant) bogeyman bandied about by the French preSS, whenever they see fit to tighten the screws on this country of sheep.
French TV boss admits censoring riot coverage
Claire Cozens in Amsterdam
Thursday November 10, 2005
One of France's leading TV news executives has admitted censoring his coverage of the riots in the country for fear of encouraging support for far-right politicians.
Jean-Claude Dassier, the director general of the rolling news service LCI, said the prominence given to the rioters on international news networks had been "excessive" and could even be fanning the flames of the violence.
Mr Dassier said his own channel, which is owned by the private broadcaster TF1, recently decided not to show footage of burning cars.
"Politics in France is heading to the right and I don't want rightwing politicians back in second, or even first place because we showed burning cars on television," Mr Dassier told an audience of broadcasters at the News Xchange conference in Amsterdam today.
"Having satellites trained on towns across France 24 hours a day showing the violence would have been wrong and totally disproportionate ... Journalism is not simply a matter of switching on the cameras and letting them roll. You have to think about what you're broadcasting," he said.
Mr Dassier denied he was guilty of "complicity" with the French authorities, which this week invoked an extraordinary state-of-emergency law passed during the country's war with Algeria 50 years ago.
But he admitted his decision was partly motivated by a desire to avoid encouraging the resurgence of extreme rightwing views in France.
French broadcasters have faced criticism for their lack of coverage of the country's worst civil unrest in decades. Public television station France 3 has stopped broadcasting the numbers of torched cars while other TV stations are considering following suit.
"Do we send teams of journalists because cars are burning, or are the cars burning because we sent teams of journalists?" asked Patrick Lecocq, editor-in-chief of France 2.
Rival news organisations today questioned the French broadcasters' decision to temper coverage of the riots.
John Ryley, the executive editor of Sky News, said his channel would have handled a similar story in Britain very differently.
"We would have been all over it like a cheap suit. We would have monstered the story, and I didn't get the impression that happened in France," he said.
expresses appreciation of the clarification by TF1 and LCI on the necessity of reporting lies.
It's good of Dassier to admit the obvious. The American media should take their cue from Dassier, as they have clearly done with his idea of news coverage, and also admit that they want to avoid reporting the story properly in order to keep their consumers from understanding the truth of what's happening in France.
The violence is receding or being hidden behind a cloak of silence?
Will some day in the not too distant future a Politician proclaim in a paraphrase of Winston Churchill's immortal speech in 1946A shadow has fallen upon the scenes so lately lit by the light of Liberty, Equality and Freedom. A Quran Curtain has fallen across the Continent
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Friday, 11 November 2005
Peace Has Come To Dafur
Many of us have been playing close attention to the events in France these last few weeks, because we believe it is one of the battle fields in a Global Conflict.
Other battles have been waged in Bali, Madrid, London, New York, Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan, but of all the battles of the Global Jihad the dearest cost in human lives has been in Sudan.
During a previous episode in Southern Sudan between 1 and 3 million African Pagan Animists and Christians were slaughtered, but the recent conflict has been in the Northern Dafur region waged against African Sufi Sunnis by Arabic Wahhabi Sunni Jihadists.
I read an article by Christopher Hitchens
last night, it appears Peace has come to that bloody and torn land.
In Iraq the United States was accused of arrogant and unilateral action, but
"the administration did everything that could have been asked of it. Abandoning any sort of "unilateralism," it pedantically followed the Kofi Annan script of multiparty negotiations and patient diplomacy. It allowed the inspectors more time. It exhausted all avenues short of war and never even threatened the use of force. By the use of sanctions, it kept Sudan "in its box." And it has got exactly what anyone might have predicted for such a strategy. Perhaps that's why there is so little protest. After all, we know that "war is not the answer." And now Sudan has Darfur province in its box."
After all, we know that "war is not the answer.
So Peace has come to Dafur, because? Because there is not really anyone left to protect. The same Peace came to Dafur, that came to Rwanda. It is cold comfort that instead of at the cost of 700 to 800,000 lives it cost this time only about half as many.
"By some reliable estimates, the Sudanese government or "National Islamic Front" has slain as many as 400,000 of its black co-religionists?known contemptuously as zurga ("niggers")?and expelled perhaps 2 million more. This appalling achievement has been made possible by a very simple tactic: The actual killers and cleansers, the Arab janjaweed militias, are a "deniable" arm of the Sudanese authorities. Those authorities pretend to negotiate with the United Nations, the United States, and the African Union, and their negotiating "card" is the control that they can or might exercise over said militias. While this tap is turned on and off, according to different applications of carrot and stick, the militias pretend to go out of control and carry on with their slaughter and deportation. By the time the clock has been run out, the job is done."
The lesson we have given to the world is? That genocide works. All a regime has to do is mouth the words, go through the motions. History isreplete with those who willingly acquiesce to such tactics, Stalin called them useful idiots.
"t looks as if the realists have won the day in the matter of Darfur. Or, to phrase it in another way, it looks as if the ethnic cleansers of that province have made good use of the "negotiation" and "mediation" period to complete their self-appointed task. As my friend Johann Hari put it recently in the London Independent: "At last, some good news from Darfur: the genocide in western Sudan is nearly over. There's only one problem?it's drawing to an end only because there are no black people left to cleanse or kill."
So Peace has come to Dafur.
"the Sudanese government might have gotten away with the whole thing. But we have more than enough filmed and photographic evidence of Sudanese planes and helicopters, flying close support to janjaweed operations, to say with certainty that the relationship between the two is the same as between the Rwandan authorities and the "Hutu Power" mobs who destroyed the Tutsi population. In other words, a Rwanda in slow motion, and in front of the cameras and the diplomats."
For those who protested against the War in Iraq, for those who claim that Diplomacy and Containment should be the only method used to address incidents such as this, for those who truly believe that---
War is never the answer.
I can say to you, that your wishes have been accomplished, Peace has come to Sudan and the only Price is the one that always accompanies the path of appeasement.
It is measured in the slaughter of the innocent, 400,000 this time.
Nonintervention does not mean that nothing happens. It means that something else happens."
Peace has come to Dafur, it should not feel so sickening.
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Thursday, 10 November 2005
Unite Against Terror News
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Protect Free Speech Online: Stop HR 4194
Just got this update in from The Online Coalition, when you read it, keep in mind the words of Benjamin Franklin, "We must all hang together, or we will most assuredly, hang separately."
But if you are one who thinks standing up for Liberty, and Freedom would "cause trouble"?
I commend to you the words of Samuel Adams'
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace.
We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand
that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity
forget that ye were our countrymen."
You haven't heard from us in a few months - but we've been working hard
to protect your freedom to speak online. And now we need your help.
Right now - there are TWO bills in Congress that will affect bloggers -
one good, one bad. The bill that deserves our support is HR 1606 - The
Online Freedom of Speech Act.
The other bill - HR 4194 - is a substitute offered by those most
interested in regulating the Internet. Its supporters are engaged in an
aggressive campaign to pass this legislation in Congress, in an effort
to muddy the waters and distract Congress from passing real protections
for bloggers. They're so terrified of your freedom to speak your mind
that they've actually compared giving freedom to bloggers to the scandal
involving Scooter Libby in the White House. (No, we're not making that
In order to pass the bill we want - we need - to stop the sham
alternative bill, HR 4194.
Their measure, HR 4194 purports to protect "bloggers" from campaign
finance regulation. But, in fact, it is so riddled with exceptions and
exclusions that it is worse that nothing.
Click here to search for your member of Congress by zip
code. Tell them that the blogosphere is not behind HR 4194.
Problems with 4194:
* It offers no guidance as to the treatment of group political
activity, potentially treating all group websites that discuss federal
candidates as political committees
* It would stifle technological innovation. HR 4914 specifically
mentions "blogging," but ignores such as already-widely used
technologies like podcasting, wikis and peer-to-peer networks, let alone
the technologies of tomorrow.
* Its alleged protection to incorporated bloggers offers no real
protection. In comments filed before the FEC, supporters of HR 4194
have stated explicitly that those websites which endorse, expressly
advocate, and urge readers to donate funds to the election of preferred
candidates do not qualify for protection under the law. This would force
bloggers that speak forcefully about politics to seek legal counsel - a
This measure is a smokescreen designed to confuse the issue and prevent
better laws from passing. Call your Representatives in Congress and
make sure they understand that HR 4194 is unacceptable.
The Online Coalition
PS - If you're a blogger, make sure your member of Congress knows that
you're telling your readers about HR 4194. And if you post about this issue - please send a trackback to
this post so we can show Congress what bloggers think about their
watered-down attempts to "protect" free speech online.
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Tuesday, 8 November 2005
France In Flames
Words fail to give an adequate picture of the present days in France, but this Map despite the fact that it is without doubt dated at this time, does reveal what the media has clouded with smoke and mirrors.
From Leaders fiddle as France burns
By Colin Randall in Paris
11am update: France declares state of emergency
In pictures: Paris burns after week of rioting
France was struggling to overcome one of its gravest post-war crises last night as every major city faced the threat of fierce rioting that began 12 nights ago and now seems to have spun out of control.
A mechanic inspects the wreckage of a burned-out car
Despite an assurance from Philippe Douste Blazy, the foreign minister, that France was "not a dangerous country", the spread of violence prompted the Foreign Office in London to warn travellers that trouble could break out "almost anywhere".
Dominique de Villepin, the beleaguered prime minister, announced that officials in riot-hit areas would be authorised to impose late-night curfews "wherever it is necessary" in a bid to halt the disturbances.
He rejected calls by a police union for troops to be sent in but said that 1,500 reservists were being called up and repeated an appeal to parents to keep adolescent rioters off the streets.
Although the disorder began on the intimidating sink estates of Paris's northern suburbs, trouble had been reported yesterday in the early hours from most regions of the country. Even areas such as Brittany, the Loire and Bordeaux, favoured by British holidaymakers and second- home hunters, have now been drawn into the worst wave of unrest in France since the spring revolt of 1968 set in motion the downfall of Gen Charles de Gaulle.
More than 1,400 vehicles were destroyed during a night of increasing violence
Yesterday the violence also claimed its first life. A 61-year-old man died in hospital three days after being beaten unconscious when he left his home in a northern Paris suburb intending to stop rubbish bins being set on fire.
Even before renewed disturbances broke out last night, figures showed that rioters had wrecked 4,700 vehicles, injured more than 100 police and rescue workers, and opened fire in at least six separate incidents
The Times of London has a handy table of the numbers of cars burned during each day of the French riots. Tim Blair and Mark Steyn have called this metric the Car-B-Q. A graph showing the numbers of cars Car-B-Qed against day is shown below
Two inflection points immediately jump out. The first occurs on Day 6 when the car burnings really took off after trending flat for the previous 5 days. I think this represents the missed opportunity to deal with the riots at an early stage, either with large concessions or large crackdowns. I don't think it mattered which as long as the authorities acted decisively, which they didn't, because this was the period when the French government stood paralyzed like a deer in headlights.
The second inflection point is Day 11, when the graph appears to be flattening out. Appears because Day 11 is also the day in which the modality of the disturbances began to change from Car-B-Qs to arson against churches, schools and buildings combined with shooting attacks against police officers. But clearly it may be the case that the French riots may be running out of steam and therefore susceptible to the countermeasures the government is now putting in place. Let's wait and see.
Early skirmish in the Eurabian civil war
By Mark Steyn
According to its Office du Tourisme, the big event in Evreux this past weekend was supposed to be the annual fete de la pomme, du cidre et du fromage at the Place de la Mairie. Instead, in this charmingly smouldering cathedral town in Normandy, a shopping mall, a post office, two schools, upwards of 50 vehicles and, oh yes, the police station were destroyed by - what's the word? - "youths".
Over at the Place de la Mairie, M le Maire himself, Jean-Louis Debre, seemed affronted by the very idea that un soupcon de carnage should be allowed to distract from the cheese-tasting. "A hundred people have smashed everything and strewn desolation," he told reporters. "Well, they don't form part of our universe."
Maybe not, but unfortunately you form part of theirs.
Mr Debre, a close pal of President Chirac's, was a little off on the numbers. There were an estimated 200 "youths" rampaging through Evreux. With baseball bats. They injured, among others, a dozen firemen. "To those responsible for the violence, I want to say: Be serious!" Mr Debre told France Info radio. "If you want to live in a fairer, more fraternal society, this is not how to go about it."
Oh, dear. Who's not "being serious" here? In Normandy, it's not just the cheese that's soft and runny. Granted that France's over-regulated sclerotic economy profoundly obstructs the social mobility of immigrants, even Mr Debris - whoops, sorry - even Mr Debre cannot be so out of touch as to think "seriously" that the rioters are rioting for "a fairer, more fraternal society". But maybe he does. The political class and the media seem to serve as mutual reinforcers of their obsolete illusions. Or as the Washington Post's headline put it: "Rage of French youth is a fight for recognition".
Actually, they're very easy to "recognise": just look out the window, they're the ones torching your Renault 5. I'd wager the "French" "youth" find that headline as hilarious as the Jets in West Side Story half a century ago, when they taunted Officer Krupke with "society's" attempts to "understand" them: we're depraved on account of we're deprived. Perhaps some enterprising Paris impresario will mount a production of West Eid Story with choreographed gangs of North African Muslims sashaying through the Place de la Republique, incinerating as they go.
Let?s pretend we don't see it, and it might disappear
Let?s pretend there isn?t any alarm. More to the point, let?s call it all alarmism. If doesn?t explain the traffic and chatter on the boards that the PR slicks can?t influence. Here?s one of the people out there exposing a corner-store jihadist who has been using chat boards to ply his trade:
Go to !No Pasaran! for the reast of the story.
It is claimed by some that by over reacting we may create a religous war where none yet exists. I am afraid that time has past and on the matter of religous war or no religous war we no longer have a choice.
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!
Monday, 7 November 2005
The Doubtful Value
As Europe braces itself for what might be the 13th Day of Flames there is a wide range of thought upon the origins and eventual outcome of this conflagration.
There are those who deem this to be the Start of the French Intifada, just recently altered to the Intifada of Europe with the News that in addition to France, in Paris,Aulnay-sous-Bois, Suresnes,Asnieres-sur-Seine, in total twenty something suburbs of Paris as well as,
Via !No Pasaran! Other regions of France suffered increased attacks : Le Havre, a Rouen, Nantes, Blois, Tours, Toulouse, Strasbourg, Mulhouse and Colmar were particularly affected. 2 churches were torched; Saint-Edouard in Lens and one in Sete. Schools in Nantes, Strasbourg, Lille, and two in Saint-Etienne were targeted by arson attacks. A police stations in Clermont Ferrand was totally destroyed and another one was smashed by a vehicle in Moulin-a-Vent.
The Flames have spread to Denmark MSM blackout on the intifada in DenmarkIt’s not just Paris. Successive nights of riots have rocked parts of ?rhus, the second largest city in Denmark. Little to nothing has appeared in the English language press about the second front in the Eurabian intifada. ?rhus is home to an excellent Danish university, and is a place where I have spent some time. It is usually spelled “Aarhus” in English.
Fortunately, Hendrik, The Viking Observer, has translated in his blog a press account from Jyllands-Posten, a Danish newspaper which has been the target of Muslim protests for publishing drawings of the prophet Muhammad.. A few excerpts:
Rosenh?j Mall has several nights in a row been the scene of the worst riots in ?rhus for years. “This area belongs to us”, the youths proclaim. Sunday evening saw a new arson attack. Their words sound like a clear declaration of war on the Danish society. Police must stay out. The area belongs to immigrants....
Four hours after the short meeting, Falck (Danish privat emergency service – Henrik) sent a group of fire engines under police escort to the nursery Kj?rslund on S?ndervangs Alle, right across the street from Rosenh?j Mall. Gasoline through the windowA window had been shattered at the back of the house, and the fire had been blazing, apparently because of gasoline poured onto the floor, then lit. Falck stopped on Viby Square, a couple kilometers from the site of the arson attack, waiting for the police to turn up so they could be escorted to the nursery. Two nights earlier, other Falck-employees were threatened, when they were covering up broken shop-windows. Cobblestones had smashed the shop-windows from one end of the mall to the other. The police wrote in their report saturday night, that the youths had their stones with them in bags, when they came to Rosenh?j....
He calls himself 100 percent Palestinian, born in a refugee camp in Lebanon 19 years ago, and now out of work in Denmark.“The police has to stay away. This is our area. We decide what goes down here”.
The MSM has done everything possible to minimize the Islamicist nature of the violence in Europe, and has blacked-out coverage of the Danish front. Here is another example of how the blogosphere has become essential to an understanding of the realities of the world.
Hat tip: Ed Lasky
Thomas Lifson 11 04 05
And now we learn it has leaped the boarders of Germany and Belgium.Officials Cautious on Violence in Germany and BelgiumBERLIN, Nov. 7 - Cars were torched late Sunday night in two German cities, Berlin and Bremen, and in Brussels, in incidents that appeared to be inspired by the communal riots in France, leading European officials to warn that poor and dissatisfied youths of immigrant backgrounds lived all over Europe.
How exactly did we all come to this pass, what was the origin, there are many explanations, failure to integrate immigrants, manipulation of simmering resentments but what was the ONE physical action which sparked all this destruction? Read and pay close attention to the following tale.
Silent march follows Paris riots
Hundreds of people have taken part in a silent march through a suburb of Paris in memory of two teenage boys whose deaths sparked two nights of violence.
The crowds blamed police for the deaths of the two boys, electrocuted when they climbed into an electrical station.
Reports say the boys were trying to evade police, but local officials deny they were being chased when they died.
Meanwhile the unrest continued for a third night, with nine youths arrested after about 20 cars were set alight.
There were no clashes with police, unlike previous nights, on Saturday but several youths were seen throwing petrol bombs and other missiles in the district of Clichy-sous-Bois.
About 300 police have been deployed to the area to maintain a law and order and will remain until further notice, officials said.
Police detained 14 people after Friday night's clashes, which officials said saw 15 police officers and one journalist injured, and a shot fired at a police van.
The area where the violence took place has many immigrants
Thursday's violence broke out after youths attacked firefighters who had been called in to help the two victims, who were aged 15 and 17, and a third youth who received serious burns
Did we all catch that last little bit? If not let me repeat it with added emphasis.
Thursday's violence broke out after youths attacked firefighters who had been called in to help the two victims, who were aged 15 and 17, and a third youth who received serious burns
Oh yes they were SO outraged and grief stricken at the deaths of these two boys that they let me repeat..
attacked firefighters who had been called in to help the two victims, who were aged 15 and 17, and a third youth who received serious burns
Some how that does not instill in me a belief that there was any real concern by the mob for those two boys, except maybe as Martyrs?
There are voices asking for moderation and for us not to leap to judgment
At the lead of this fittingly is The Moderate VoiceImportant Note To Readers
by Joe Gandelman
Our co-blogger Jack Grant's posts on both this site and on his are always independent and unique...and the ones he's posting now are more authoritative than ever.
Just to remind our readers: Jack Grant is a scientist working and living in France. So you might want to take special note of any original or "pointer posts" he puts on this site to get his perspective from France....where all of the turmoil is taking place. The rest of us writing and pontificating from the United States are relying on news reports but don't get to talk to any people in France first hand.
So do check out his posts. We'll chain link his to ours.
Related Posts (on one page):
1. Important Note To Readers
2. A note upon the riots underway in France
3. Many cities in France are burning
4. France's Clashes Spread To Paris On 10th Night Of DestructionRandom FateFear and hate
by Jack Grant
Many, especially those on the right-wing, are not only correlating but seeking evidence for how the riots and gang-coordinated violence in France might be related to Islam.
Correlation, despite our desire for an orderly and understandable universe, does not prove causality.
In this particular case, it is similar to the violence in the late 1960s and early 70s in the US, where there were riots that originated in areas that were mainly inhabited by people whose skin color is commonly described as black.
Does this mean that blacks are inherently violent? The predominant view today is only a racist would say so.
However, it is apparently perfectly acceptable to say that since the riots in France are occurring in regions inhabited predominantly by Muslims (many if not most of whom are African and NOT Arab, by the way) somehow proves that Islam is inherently violent.
Yet, somehow, this thinking is acceptable, even though the logic differs not at all from the ?logic? of the latter half of the 20th century used to justify all kinds of racism.
I have a theory about racism; it is a way for people to avoid the hard work of thinking.
I have a theory about hate; it is a way for people to avoid the hard work of thinking.
We should seek out the true origins of the riots, and as has been written elsewhere, I suspect we will discover they have far more in common with the origins of the riots in the United States of the later half of the 20th century than with some grand Islamist conspiracy to overthrow ?the West
But I am afraid things have gone much farther than simple rioting, which usually does not include internet and cell phone coordination of what appear to be orchestrated raids on outlying regions asDe Doc's Institute
relates to us
Filed under: The Islamicist War ? De Doc @ 3:27 am
Or would you prefer, perhaps, اثنان دقائق إلى منتصف ليل ?
The violence in France is spreading. Over 300 towns and cities have now reported some degree of rioting. Belgium and Germany are now seeing copycat car-b-q?s.
Now, for the record: I do not believe there is an organized Islamicist cabal calling the shots in France.
That doesn't?t reassure me, though. I don?t think anybody should be reassured.
Not all riots lead to revolutions. But revolutions generally grow out of the initial, chaotic conditions that riots breed.
As usual we are getting the news filtered to varying degrees.More cars torched but situation calmer as France plans anti-riot curfews
AFP - 22 minutes ago
PARIS (AFP) - More cars were torched overnight but the situation looked calmer after Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin announced that regions are to be given powers to impose curfews to curb riots that have gripped hundreds of towns across France.
French youths riot again despite curfew threat
Reuters - 57 minutes ago
PARIS (Reuters) - Ignoring the government's threat of a curfew, youths rioted for a 12th successive night in France, torching more than 800 vehicles around the country and injuring four police, the Interior Ministry said on Tuesday
However to my mind one of the most piercing observations was in !No Pasaran! Translation of article linked from ?Zek est de nouveau parmi nousThe latest offensives to some kind of "emergency plan for the suburbs", aiming to re-enstate the authority of the republic in the occupied territories.
The islamists then consolidated their victories, and from it to gradually conquer more land.
The message was clear: any incursion of the French State into the territory was punished by riots, fires, and on French nationals. That applied not only to the police force, but also to firemen, doctors, etc. The riot stopped when the government dhimmis accepted, not only to leave islamists a free hand, but to finance them with billions for an "emergency plan for the suburbs".
But, like criminals always leaving their mark, the riots revealed their true objective through their targets: social schools, cribs, centers, community gyms, etc...
In other words they were mainly buildings representing the French Republic, those which symbolized the "policy of integration" the most were most prominently attacked.
These riots didn't?t take place because "France refuses to integrate its ", and other banal reasons, but exactly for the opposite reason: because France tries to integrate its .
But despite the ineptitude of the political leaders, there are shining evidences that the common folk betrayed by the State are still able to stand their ground and see to the of their homes and families. For some time I have known that examples such as Liberte J'cris ton nomme the French Libertarian Party indicated that spirit still beats in the hearts of the French.The vacuum left by an absent State posted by U*2 @ 11:41 AM
The first curfew has been declared and the idea of people taking things into their own hands is starting to be bandied about. Raincy will have a curfew starting at 10 or 11PM. In Asnieres, a citizen's brigade is being formed to help police.
As I said before there have been many voices raised pro and con on what exactly this conflagration really means, And to those who see it as a simple reaction to long held economic injustice. I reply
were it only that simple. It would be to be desired.
But as the Revolutionary swims in the Sea of the Proletariat (though in this instance most of the workers are unemployed and on the dole) so this has been used and directed. Yes it might very well have been spontaneous but the first outbreaks were not uncommon to those areas, it is something different now.
And to those voices raised in trying to pour oil on troubled waters? If you listen closely you can almost hear Patrick Henry saying to them across the centuries.It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field!
Make no mistake,despite ALL the issues we as Nation have had with their Political Leaders the common folk of Asnieres, ARE
The Doubtful Value of Duality lies in either or thinking, what we face now is a situation where both sides of this debate have truth, but their separate truths do not exclude the other.
Michael Moore was full of it, these
are the Minute Men of the 21st Century.
Aux armes, citoyens,
Formez vos bataillons,
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons
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