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Monday, 7 November 2005
The Doubtful Value
of Duality

As Europe braces itself for what might be the 13th Day of Flames there is a wide range of thought upon the origins and eventual outcome of this conflagration.

There are those who deem this to be the Start of the French Intifada, just recently altered to the Intifada of Europe with the News that in addition to France, in Paris,Aulnay-sous-Bois, Suresnes,Asnieres-sur-Seine, in total twenty something suburbs of Paris as well as,
Via !No Pasaran!
Other regions of France suffered increased attacks : Le Havre, a Rouen, Nantes, Blois, Tours, Toulouse, Strasbourg, Mulhouse and Colmar were particularly affected. 2 churches were torched; Saint-Edouard in Lens and one in Sete. Schools in Nantes, Strasbourg, Lille, and two in Saint-Etienne were targeted by arson attacks. A police stations in Clermont Ferrand was totally destroyed and another one was smashed by a vehicle in Moulin-a-Vent.

The Flames have spread to Denmark

MSM blackout on the intifada in Denmark

It’s not just Paris. Successive nights of riots have rocked parts of ?rhus, the second largest city in Denmark. Little to nothing has appeared in the English language press about the second front in the Eurabian intifada. ?rhus is home to an excellent Danish university, and is a place where I have spent some time. It is usually spelled “Aarhus” in English.

Fortunately, Hendrik, The Viking Observer, has translated in his blog a press account from Jyllands-Posten, a Danish newspaper which has been the target of Muslim protests for publishing drawings of the prophet Muhammad.. A few excerpts:

Rosenh?j Mall has several nights in a row been the scene of the worst riots in ?rhus for years. “This area belongs to us”, the youths proclaim. Sunday evening saw a new arson attack. Their words sound like a clear declaration of war on the Danish society. Police must stay out. The area belongs to immigrants....

Four hours after the short meeting, Falck (Danish privat emergency service – Henrik) sent a group of fire engines under police escort to the nursery Kj?rslund on S?ndervangs Alle, right across the street from Rosenh?j Mall. Gasoline through the windowA window had been shattered at the back of the house, and the fire had been blazing, apparently because of gasoline poured onto the floor, then lit. Falck stopped on Viby Square, a couple kilometers from the site of the arson attack, waiting for the police to turn up so they could be escorted to the nursery. Two nights earlier, other Falck-employees were threatened, when they were covering up broken shop-windows. Cobblestones had smashed the shop-windows from one end of the mall to the other. The police wrote in their report saturday night, that the youths had their stones with them in bags, when they came to Rosenh?j....

He calls himself 100 percent Palestinian, born in a refugee camp in Lebanon 19 years ago, and now out of work in Denmark.“The police has to stay away. This is our area. We decide what goes down here”.

The MSM has done everything possible to minimize the Islamicist nature of the violence in Europe, and has blacked-out coverage of the Danish front. Here is another example of how the blogosphere has become essential to an understanding of the realities of the world.

Hat tip: Ed Lasky

Thomas Lifson 11 04 05

And now we learn it has leaped the boarders of Germany and Belgium.

Officials Cautious on Violence in Germany and Belgium

BERLIN, Nov. 7 - Cars were torched late Sunday night in two German cities, Berlin and Bremen, and in Brussels, in incidents that appeared to be inspired by the communal riots in France, leading European officials to warn that poor and dissatisfied youths of immigrant backgrounds lived all over Europe.

How exactly did we all come to this pass, what was the origin, there are many explanations, failure to integrate immigrants, manipulation of simmering resentments but what was the ONE physical action which sparked all this destruction? Read and pay close attention to the following tale.

Silent march follows Paris riots

Hundreds of people have taken part in a silent march through a suburb of Paris in memory of two teenage boys whose deaths sparked two nights of violence.
The crowds blamed police for the deaths of the two boys, electrocuted when they climbed into an electrical station.

Reports say the boys were trying to evade police, but local officials deny they were being chased when they died.

Meanwhile the unrest continued for a third night, with nine youths arrested after about 20 cars were set alight.

'Shot fired'

There were no clashes with police, unlike previous nights, on Saturday but several youths were seen throwing petrol bombs and other missiles in the district of Clichy-sous-Bois.

About 300 police have been deployed to the area to maintain a law and order and will remain until further notice, officials said.

Police detained 14 people after Friday night's clashes, which officials said saw 15 police officers and one journalist injured, and a shot fired at a police van.

The area where the violence took place has many immigrants

Thursday's violence broke out after youths attacked firefighters who had been called in to help the two victims, who were aged 15 and 17, and a third youth who received serious burns

Did we all catch that last little bit? If not let me repeat it with added emphasis.

Thursday's violence broke out after youths attacked firefighters who had been called in to help the two victims, who were aged 15 and 17, and a third youth who received serious burns

Oh yes they were SO outraged and grief stricken at the deaths of these two boys that they let me repeat..

attacked firefighters who had been called in to help the two victims, who were aged 15 and 17, and a third youth who received serious burns

Some how that does not instill in me a belief that there was any real concern by the mob for those two boys, except maybe as Martyrs?

There are voices asking for moderation and for us not to leap to judgment

At the lead of this fittingly is The Moderate Voice
Important Note To Readers
by Joe Gandelman
Our co-blogger Jack Grant's posts on both this site and on his are always independent and unique...and the ones he's posting now are more authoritative than ever.

Just to remind our readers: Jack Grant is a scientist working and living in France. So you might want to take special note of any original or "pointer posts" he puts on this site to get his perspective from France....where all of the turmoil is taking place. The rest of us writing and pontificating from the United States are relying on news reports but don't get to talk to any people in France first hand.

So do check out his posts. We'll chain link his to ours.

Related Posts (on one page):

1. Important Note To Readers
2. A note upon the riots underway in France
3. Many cities in France are burning
4. France's Clashes Spread To Paris On 10th Night Of Destruction

Random Fate
Fear and hate

by Jack Grant
Many, especially those on the right-wing, are not only correlating but seeking evidence for how the riots and gang-coordinated violence in France might be related to Islam.

Correlation, despite our desire for an orderly and understandable universe, does not prove causality.

In this particular case, it is similar to the violence in the late 1960s and early 70s in the US, where there were riots that originated in areas that were mainly inhabited by people whose skin color is commonly described as black.

Does this mean that blacks are inherently violent? The predominant view today is only a racist would say so.

However, it is apparently perfectly acceptable to say that since the riots in France are occurring in regions inhabited predominantly by Muslims (many if not most of whom are African and NOT Arab, by the way) somehow proves that Islam is inherently violent.

Yet, somehow, this thinking is acceptable, even though the logic differs not at all from the ?logic? of the latter half of the 20th century used to justify all kinds of racism.

I have a theory about racism; it is a way for people to avoid the hard work of thinking.

I have a theory about hate; it is a way for people to avoid the hard work of thinking.

We should seek out the true origins of the riots, and as has been written elsewhere, I suspect we will discover they have far more in common with the origins of the riots in the United States of the later half of the 20th century than with some grand Islamist conspiracy to overthrow ?the West

But I am afraid things have gone much farther than simple rioting, which usually does not include internet and cell phone coordination of what appear to be orchestrated raids on outlying regions as

De Doc's Institute relates to us

Filed under: The Islamicist War ? De Doc @ 3:27 am
Or would you prefer, perhaps, اثنان دقائق إلى منتصف ليل ?

The violence in France is spreading. Over 300 towns and cities have now reported some degree of rioting. Belgium and Germany are now seeing copycat car-b-q?s.

Now, for the record: I do not believe there is an organized Islamicist cabal calling the shots in France.

That doesn't?t reassure me, though. I don?t think anybody should be reassured.

Not all riots lead to revolutions. But revolutions generally grow out of the initial, chaotic conditions that riots breed.

As usual we are getting the news filtered to varying degrees.

More cars torched but situation calmer as France plans anti-riot curfews
AFP - 22 minutes ago

PARIS (AFP) - More cars were torched overnight but the situation looked calmer after Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin announced that regions are to be given powers to impose curfews to curb riots that have gripped hundreds of towns across France.
French youths riot again despite curfew threat
Reuters - 57 minutes ago

PARIS (Reuters) - Ignoring the government's threat of a curfew, youths rioted for a 12th successive night in France, torching more than 800 vehicles around the country and injuring four police, the Interior Ministry said on Tuesday

However to my mind one of the most piercing observations was in !No Pasaran!

Translation of article linked from ?Zek est de nouveau parmi nous
The latest offensives to some kind of "emergency plan for the suburbs", aiming to re-enstate the authority of the republic in the occupied territories.
The islamists then consolidated their victories, and from it to gradually conquer more land.
The message was clear: any incursion of the French State into the territory was punished by riots, fires, and on French nationals. That applied not only to the police force, but also to firemen, doctors, etc. The riot stopped when the government dhimmis accepted, not only to leave islamists a free hand, but to finance them with billions for an "emergency plan for the suburbs".

But, like criminals always leaving their mark, the riots revealed their true objective through their targets: social schools, cribs, centers, community gyms, etc...
In other words they were mainly buildings representing the French Republic, those which symbolized the "policy of integration" the most were most prominently attacked.
These riots didn't?t take place because "France refuses to integrate its ", and other banal reasons, but exactly for the opposite reason: because France tries to integrate its .

But despite the ineptitude of the political leaders, there are shining evidences that the common folk betrayed by the State are still able to stand their ground and see to the of their homes and families. For some time I have known that examples such as Liberte J'cris ton nomme the French Libertarian Party indicated that spirit still beats in the hearts of the French.

The vacuum left by an absent State

posted by U*2 @ 11:41 AM

The first curfew has been declared and the idea of people taking things into their own hands is starting to be bandied about. Raincy will have a curfew starting at 10 or 11PM. In Asnieres, a citizen's brigade is being formed to help police.

As I said before there have been many voices raised pro and con on what exactly this conflagration really means, And to those who see it as a simple reaction to long held economic injustice. I reply
were it only that simple. It would be to be desired.

But as the Revolutionary swims in the Sea of the Proletariat (though in this instance most of the workers are unemployed and on the dole) so this has been used and directed. Yes it might very well have been spontaneous but the first outbreaks were not uncommon to those areas, it is something different now.

And to those voices raised in trying to pour oil on troubled waters? If you listen closely you can almost hear Patrick Henry saying to them across the centuries.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field!

Make no mistake,despite ALL the issues we as Nation have had with their Political Leaders the common folk of Asnieres, ARE our brethern.

The Doubtful Value of Duality lies in either or thinking, what we face now is a situation where both sides of this debate have truth, but their separate truths do not exclude the other.

Michael Moore was full of it, these are the Minute Men of the 21st Century.

Aux armes, citoyens,
Formez vos bataillons,
Marchons, marchons!
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons


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