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Wednesday, 17 August 2005
Seven Steps to the Caliphate.
Topic: Islamic Jihad
I found the following through a website called,
The Word Unheard. Man he got that right.


What al-Qaida Really Wants

By Yassin Musharbash

If there is anyone who might possibly have an inkling as to what al-Qaida are up to, it is the Jordanian journalist Fouad Hussein. He has not only spent time in prison with al-Zarqawi, but has also managed make contact with many of the network's leaders. Based on correspondence with these sources, he has now brought out a book detailing the organization's master plan.
An Islamic Caliphate in Seven Easy Steps

In the introduction, the Jordanian journalist writes, "I interviewed a whole range of al-Qaida members with different ideologies to get an idea of how the war between the terrorists and Washington would develop in the future." What he then describes between pages 202 and 213 is a scenario, proof both of the terrorists' blindness as well as their brutal single-mindedness. In seven phases the terror network hopes to establish an Islamic caliphate which the West will then be too weak to fight.

The First Phase Known as "the awakening" -- this has already been carried out and was supposed to have lasted from 2000 to 2003, or more precisely from the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 in New York and Washington to the fall of Baghdad in 2003. The aim of the attacks of 9/11 was to provoke the US into declaring war on the Islamic world and thereby "awakening" Muslims. "The first phase was judged by the strategists and masterminds behind al-Qaida as very successful," writes Hussein. "The battle field was opened up and the Americans and their allies became a closer and easier target." The terrorist network is also reported as being satisfied that its message can now be heard "everywhere."

The Second Phase "Opening Eyes" is, according to Hussein's definition, the period we are now in and should last until 2006. Hussein says the terrorists hope to make the western conspiracy aware of the "Islamic community." Hussein believes this is a phase in which al-Qaida wants an organization to develop into a movement. The network is banking on recruiting young men during this period. Iraq should become the center for all global operations, with an "army" set up there and bases established in other Arabic states.

The Third Phase This is described as "Arising and Standing Up" and should last from 2007 to 2010. "There will be a focus on Syria," prophesies Hussein, based on what his sources told him. The fighting cadres are supposedly already prepared and some are in Iraq. Attacks on Turkey and -- even more explosive -- in Israel are predicted. Al-Qaida's masterminds hope that attacks on Israel will help the terrorist group become a recognized organization. The author also believes that countries neighboring Iraq, such as Jordan, are also in danger.

The Fourth Phase Between 2010 and 2013, Hussein writes that al-Qaida will aim to bring about the collapse of the hated Arabic governments. The estimate is that "the creeping loss of the regimes' power will lead to a steady growth in strength within al-Qaida." At the same time attacks will be carried out against oil suppliers and the US economy will be targeted using cyber terrorism.

The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared. The plan is that by this time, between 2013 and 2016, Western influence in the Islamic world will be so reduced and Israel weakened so much, that resistance will not be feared. Al-Qaida hopes that by then the Islamic state will be able to bring about a new world order.

The Sixth Phase Hussein believes that from 2016 onwards there will a period of "total confrontation." As soon as the caliphate has been declared the "Islamic army" it will instigate the "fight between the believers and the non-believers" which has so often been predicted by Osama bin Laden.

The Seventh Phase This final stage is described as "definitive victory." Hussein writes that in the terrorists' eyes, because the rest of the world will be so beaten down by the "one-and-a-half billion Muslims," the caliphate will undoubtedly succeed. This phase should be completed by 2020, although the war shouldn't last longer than two years.

A Serious Plan?

But just how serious is this scenario? "Al-Qaida makes no compromises," says the book's author Fouad Hussein. He obviously believes that this seven-point plan could well become the guiding principle for a whole range of al-Qaida fighters. Hussein is far from an hysterical alarmist -- in fact he is seen as a serious journalist and his Zarqawi book is better than most of the reports in Arabic on the subject. Only last year, the journalist made a film which was received with great interest and was shown on the German-French TV channel arte. In it he provided deep insights into al-Qaida's internet propaganda machine.


Nevertheless, there is no way the scenario he depicts can be seen as a plan which al-Qaida can follow step by step. The terrorist network just doesn't work like that anymore. The significance of the central leadership has diminished and its direct commands have lost a great deal of importance. The supposed master plan for the years 2000 to 2020 reads in parts more like a group of ideas cobbled together in retrospect, than something planned and presented in advance. And not to mention the terrorist agenda is simply unworkable: the idea that al-Qaida could set up a caliphate in the entire Islamic world is absurd. The 20-year plan is based mainly on religious ideas. It hardly has anything to do with reality -- especially phases four to seven.

But that doesn't mean that we should simply discount everything that Hussein has uncovered. A few of the steps in the agenda are plausible. The idea that Syria will become a focus for the Mujahedin is regarded by experts as highly likely. "Close ranks, concentrate on getting more recruits, set up cells," was the call to the "Mujahedin in Syria" which appeared on one Web site at the beginning of August. From the point of view of the jihadists, Israel and Turkey are also fairly logical targets for an escalation of the confrontation. "Al-Qaida views every fight as a victory, because for so long Muslims didn't have any weapons at all," says Hussein. He may not be far off. As for Jordan, al-Qaida leaders such as al-Zarqawi, have already made attacks on the country. They have also stated on numerous occasions that Jerusalem is the real target.

Equally, the idea that in the future al-Qaida could increasingly become a movement that attracts young frustrated men, is hardly a theory plucked out of thin air. The terror network puts a lot of effort into its propaganda -- assuredly in order to expand its support base.

Attacks on the West: a Means to an End

What is interesting is that major attacks against the West are not even mentioned by Fouad Hussein. Terrorism here cannot be ignored -- but it seems these attacks simply supplement the larger aim of setting up an Islamic caliphate. Attacks such as those in New York, Madrid and London would in this case not be ends in themselves, but rather means to a achieve a larger purpose -- steps in a process of increasing insecurity in the West.

Nowadays, it is harder than ever to truly understand al-Qaida: the organization has degenerated into branches and loosely connected cells, related groups are taken in, and people who hardly had anything to do with al-Qaida before, now carry out attacks in its name. It is hard to imagine orders which come right from the top because Osama bin Laden spends all his time struggling to survive. At the same time, the division between foot soldiers in the organization and sympathizers is becoming increasingly blurred. It is all too easy to fall prey to disinformation -- al-Qaida also excels in this area. Even Hussein's scenario should be judged skeptically.

His book should therefore be read for what it really is: an attempt to second guess how al-Qaida terrorists think, what they really want and how they propose to get there.
This reminds me of a book I bought and read a few years back, and from an online Islamic Bookstore, might I add, not some redneck, neo-con webite.

It was called:

Methodology Of Dawah in American Perspective
In the light of the Dawah strategies developed by the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) at various stages of Islamic propagation, this book addresses the issues related to modern day Dawah and guides the Muslims on preparation, techniques, medium selection, and other related challenges particular to dawah in North America.

Now THAT sounded innocuous didn't it? Until you actually READ it and discover that one of the main attractions to the Author for turning America into a Caliphate is our economic and military power would in his eyes make converting the rest of the world SO much easier.

No, really they are that to the point in this book, I guess they don't think anyone but like minded Muslims would bother reading it. At $6.95 plus shipping I recommend picking up a copy, rather like reading Mein Kampf before Hitler made his place in History. It EVEN has a detailed plan over a long period of time, not to just convert Americans, but to infiltrate the government and over throw it.

You see they figure it is not necessary to convert EVERYONE just enough to get the job done. The first stages of Dawah are to be pacific and peaceful. the last stage after a core of believers is established is simply the armed overthrow of any previous system of government.

Well as I live and breathe, the man now has his own website at


Be worth scanning to see what plans this guy has for us Infidels.

Of course this guy's worldview is not like that of most Americans. In his world, soldiers just do what their officers tell them to do. In our world? The main part of the population which tends towards military service is what is called Jacksonian American. The oath taken when enlisting is to Support and Defend the Constitution.
Jacksonians take that seriously and I do not see the rank and file following orders to overthrow the Constitution and set up an Islamic Caliphate.

Still it would be sweet to create a virtual universe in which this did happen and dump into it all the Useful Idiots who keep shrieking how Fascistic America is and let them find out what that would REALLY be like were it the Truth. ;-)


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Updated: Sunday, 3 June 2007 6:45 AM CDT
The News and Shell Games
Topic: Out of Flyover Land
What I want to know, is under WHICH Shell, can you find the pea?

I mean where is the REAL News these days?

I feel for the parents of the girl who went missing, but I am getting real tired of Aruba.

Aruba, the man who went overboard while on a cruise ship and now today, there is a woman who is in her 9 month and is missing.

These are tragic events, but they are LOCALIZED.

Where are reports that:

There were over 280 protests, demonstrations and riots in Iran during the month of July, where demonstrators were not only fired upon but arrested and summarily executed on the street?

But then the OFFICIAL reports may be that their injuries were self inflicted???

Iran judiciary official claims slain youth beat himself

Iran Focus

Tehran, Iran, Aug. 17 – The head of the coroner's office in the province of Western Azerbaijan, northwest Iran, told the state-owned ISNA news agency that a young Kurd who was shot and killed by police in the Kurdish town of Mahabad on July 10 had not been tortured as has been claimed by his family and eye-witnesses but instead had beaten himself.

Firouz Mohammadi, the chief coroner in Western Azerbaijan, claimed that forensic examination on the body of Shoan Qaderi had shown that the young Kurdish dissident had been shot once in the chest and once in the right thigh and had beaten himself. "Bruises as a result of self-beating could be seen, and that is a reflection on his character", Mohammadi said.

Eye-witnesses, however, reported at the time that after Qaderi was gunned down by State Security Forces, he was dragged on the back of a Toyota jeep in the streets of Mahabad and taken to a police station where he was tortured to death.

According to locals, the SSF killed Qaderi because he was active in anti-government protests and authorities wanted to intimidate the local population.

Since the incident, there have been continuous demonstrations and clashes between people and agents of the SSF in Kurdish towns and cities throughout northwest Iran, leaving several dead and hundreds injured or arrested.

Where are the reports that:

There were over 1000 terrorist bombings in China last year?

August 09, 2005
Suicide Bomber Blows Up Bus in China: Government Covers Up (UPDATED)

BBC News World Edition

There were more than a thousand reported bombings last year.

Most go unreported by the country's tightly-controlled state media

Oh and where is the intense editorial commentary, linking the above to the presence of US forces in Iraq and our support for Israel?

And along with the docudrama of Mrs Sheehan in Crawford and the photo ops of the crosses run over by that in truth slimy cretin, why is there not ONE mention in the Major Media of the families who seeing their sons name on one of those crosses bitterly OBJECTED to his memory being used to degrade what he was PROUD to be doing?

Where are the reports about THEM?
Other ways to grieve, part 2

Matt and Toni Matula:

Matthew was very proud of being a Marine and proud of his unit and what they were doing," Toni Matula said.

When the Matulas saw the Crawford protest on TV, something did more than just bother them.

"All this stuff going in Crawford, we've just been watching it and shaking our heads until two days ago, we saw the crosses with the names on there," Matt Matula said.

On one white cross read the name Matthew Matula: their 20-year-old son who was killed in Iraq last year.

"He's not a victim, he's a hero, and I think that everybody that's serving our country is heroes," Matt Matula said.

"He knew joining the Marines, his chances are, that was the purpose. His main number one job was to defend our country. He was very aware of that before he signed up," Toni Matula said.

So Matt Matula went to Crawford to stand up for his son, a Marine who proudly stood by the war he died in.

"I went there and had Matthew's name taken off of there. It's fine for people to grieve their own way. It aggravates me to see them using other people's names to further their cause," Matt Matula said.

"For people to use his name against it is not what he died for. He died so that they can do that though," Toni Matula said.

(I only copied on statement go to Chrenkoff via the link for others)

Is their moral authority less "absolute" than Mrs Crawfords? Someone should ask Maureen Dowd to clarify this.

Maybe that is why I get most of my news on the internet these days.


Posted by ky/kentuckydan at 7:35 PM CDT
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Updated: Sunday, 3 June 2007 6:45 AM CDT
The War of Light and Darkness
Topic: Out of Flyover Land
I read the following in the comments section over at
roger l. simon

Back to the real topic. A war to end Islamic state sponsored terrorism is a little vague, but has some limits. I have to disagree with the notion that the war is about womens rights around the globe. Many practices of Arab culture strike me as bizarre and abhorrent. It does not follow that we can or should try to remake their societies into what we find acceptable. Nothing is more likely to cause further conflict.

Posted by: flenser at August 16, 2005 09:43 AM
The post in question begins

Women's rights are the very center of the War on Terror. In fact I would argue Islamofascism at its core is more than anything else an expression of rage against women and that Islam itself is not much better on that score. That is why to me Ayaan Hirsi Ali is one of the great positive figures of our time, a modern Joan of Arc who surpasses the original Joan in a moral sense and is at least her equal in pure guts.

At first I intended to merely comment, but my thoughts expanded, and I decided to share them here.

In my mind the Struggle we in which we are now engaged, is YES about Islamofacism, YES about the rights of Women, but as SUBSETS of the whole.

It is a much broader struggle, and to me it is between these two Memes.

Those who believe that Society should be under total control for the benefit of all, and run by oligarchic Intelligentsia, which of course includes them in the seat of power (is this not always the case) AND those who believe that Rights, Liberty and Responsibility should be the inalienable possessions of the Individual.

From this perspective the goals and Ideals of the Islamofacsist and the Far Left Socialist are identical. For the STRUCTURE of the Ideal Society is the same, for both of them. If there are no Rights for the Individual, there can be no Rights for Women.

The question was raised in the main post, as to WHY some of those on the Left seem so unconcerned with the Rights of Women, as regards Islamofacism?

From where comes the assumption that the Far Left is concerned about Rights PERIOD? What historical evidence has ever given to the World that RIGHTS were a concern of theirs? Lenin? Stalin?
Mao Tse Tung? Pol Pot? Kim Jung Il? I would be very interested in evidence that this is the case.

The commenter I started this thought sortie with, states a concern with conflict. We have as a Culture and a Society engaged in Conflict before this to wipe the stain of "bizarre and abhorrent" practices from the Face of the Earth. They were called SLAVERY and GENOCIDE. Were the goal at that time to merely avoid CONFLICT? We would all now be either in Chains or Ashes drifting out of Gas Chambers.

But wait. That WAS the Goal for a while during the last century, to avoid conflict, we have oft stated Never Again and we have with ease forgotten this and responded to some modern day Genocide and Slavery with Neville Again.

Our enemy comes in many forms and shapes, some easy to detect and some with smiles and promises, which are much more difficult to perceive.

The Fanatic Jihadist, cutting off the head of an innocent is rather easy to see as a danger. Kelo versus New London is more subtle. IT has the smile and the promise that it can make things better for the Whole, more jobs, more Tax Revenue, just TAKE what belongs to someone away from them, so WE can make more money as a Whole? Some may call my view extreme, I do not claim that this last example is not SO subtle that it is harder to see it as a threat but it, to my eyes is the same enemy.

Our young men and women go in Harm's Way to defend us against a terrible foe in the Service of Darkness.

It is to us who remain behind to , Protect and Defend what they leave behind with us, Freedom , Liberty, Equality, as laid down in the Constitution.

This WAR has many fronts and many faces and it is NOT one that we can draw back from lest we wake up one day to find ourselves and our children in chains.

Those of you who have been reading here for a while may have noticed that I often like to quote Patrick Henry.

Today I will be more blunt than what he had to say.
The Republic stands in peril, from without and from within. There is, as there was over 200 years ago a Call to Arms to Defend her. Some have answered, some will not.

We are TOLD that there can be many different sincere opinions and it would be WRONG to question the Patriotism of All of those on the other side of the political divide.

Well I will not question the Patriotism of ALL of my political and philosophical opponents , but to SOME of them?

This my Gauge

And in the SAME words used by

for the SAME reasons
I say to You.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace.
We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand
that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity
forget that ye were our countrymen."

Samuel Adams
American Patriot & Politician


Posted by ky/kentuckydan at 1:27 AM CDT
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Updated: Sunday, 3 June 2007 6:41 AM CDT
Tuesday, 16 August 2005
There ARE Other Women In The World
Topic: Islamic Jihad
We have been focused the last few days on ONE solitary woman. Her grief, her complaints, her demands and her political agenda.

You know? There ARE other women in the world. We should not be distracted from THEIR just demand for our attention, aid and succor. For it is not the Media Event in Crawford where the real story of the War we are in is being played out.

It is in Iraq, Afghanistan, Holland Canada and even here.

Heed the words now of a DIFFERENT kind of woman than the one who is having her 15 minutes of media glory in Crawford,

Ms. Hirsi Ali, a member of the Dutch parliament for the Liberal Party, was born in Somalia. She took refuge in the Netherlands in 1992 to escape an arranged marriage, and has had armed bodyguards after receiving death threats from Muslim extremists. She writes at

Unfree Under Islam
Shariah endangers women's rights, from Iraq to Canada.

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT

In every society where family affairs are regulated according to instructions derived from the Shariah or Islamic law, women are disadvantaged. The injustices these women are exposed to in the name of Islam vary from extreme cruelty (forced marriages; imprisonment or death after rape) to grossly unfair treatment in matters of marriage, divorce and inheritance.

Muslim women across the world are caught in a terrible predicament. They aspire to live by their faith as best they can, but their faith robs them of their rights. Some women have found a way out of this dilemma in the principle of separation of organized religion and state affairs. They fight an uphill battle to achieve and hold on to their basic rights. Two cases demonstrate just how difficult that struggle can be, in the context of new as well as established democracies.

The first is the draft constitution of Iraq, now due next week. Iraqi women like Naghem Khadim, demonstrating on the streets of Najaf, are fighting to prevent an article from being put in the constitution that would establish that the legislature may make no laws that contradict Shariah edicts. The second case is the province of Ontario, in Canada. There, Muslim women led by Homa Arjomand, an activist of Iranian origin, are fighting--using the Canadian Charter of Rights--to keep Shariah from being applied as family law through a so-called Arbitration Act passed as law in Ontario in 1992.

It seems strange to associate the context of Canada with that of Iraq, but a closer look at the arguments used to reassure the demonstrating women in both countries reveals the similar ordeals that Muslim women in both countries must go through to secure their rights. It shows how their legitimate and serious worries are trivialized, and how vulnerable and alone they are. It shows how the Free World led by the U.S. went to war in Iraq, allegedly to bring liberty to Iraqis, and is compromising the basic rights of women in order to meet a random date. It shows how the theory of multiculturalism in Western liberal democracies is working against women in ethnic and religious minorities with misogynist practices. It shows the tenacity of many imams, mullahs and self-made Muslim radicals to subjugate women in the name of God. Most of all, it shows how many of those who consider themselves liberal or left-wing see their energy levels rise when it comes to Bush-bashing, but lose their voice when women's rights are threatened by religious obscurantism.
Hamam Hamoudi, the head of Iraq's constitution committee, refuses to discuss the article that worries the Muslim women. He also refused to put in the draft constitution that men and women have equal rights, creating a bizarre situation whereby the women had more rights under Saddam Hussein's regime than in post-Saddam Iraq. Mr. Hamoudi insists that women will have full economic and political rights, but the overwhelming evidence shows that when Shariah--which gives a husband complete control over his wife--is in place, women have little chance to exercise any political rights. Does Mr. Hamoudi realize that it took the removal of Saddam and the establishment of a multiparty democracy for men to vote, while if his draft constitution is ratified, women will need the permission of their husbands to step out of the house in order to mark their ballot? I thought that President Bush and all the allies who supported the Iraq war aspired to bring democracy and liberty to all Iraqis. Aren't Iraqi girls and women human enough to share in that dream?

Under Shariah, a girl becomes eligible for marriage from the moment she starts to menstruate. In countries where Islamic law is practiced, child-brides are common. Do the drafters of the constitution grasp what this will mean for the school curriculum of girls or the risks of miscarriages, maternal fatalities and infant deaths? These and other hazards that affect subjugated women are common phenomena in the 22 Arab-Islamic countries investigated in the Arab Human Development Report. An early marriage also means many children in an area of the world that is already overpopulated and poor.

The draft Iraqi bill of rights favors men in other respects, such as the right to marry up to four wives, and the right to an easy divorce, without the interference of a court, simply by repeating "I divorce you" in the presence of two male witnesses. A wife divorced in such a fashion will receive an allowance for a period of three months to one year, and after that period nothing. On the other hand, if a wife wants a divorce, she must go to court and prove that her husband does not meet her material needs, that he is infertile and that he is impotent. Once a divorce is finalized, if there are children, the custody of the children will automatically go to the father (for boys at age 7 and for girls from the start of menstruation). Inheritance based on the Shariah means that wives will get only a small portion of the property of their husbands and a sister will get half what her brother gets.
Canadian women are told that the Arbitration Act of 1992 was passed in order to provide citizens with the opportunity to resolve minor conflicts through mediation and thereby save valuable court time. They are reassured that Muslim women in Canada have nothing to fear because parties must enter into arbitration out of their free choice, and that there are enough limits to safeguard the rights of women. The Muslim women's arguments that "free choice" is relative when you are psychologically, financially and socially dependent on your family, clan or religious group seem to fall on deaf ears. The populations of battered Muslim women in "tolerant" Canada's women's shelters seem to be ignored. In Canada, battered Muslim women say that their husbands told them that it is a God-given right to hit them. If the current Iraqi constitution goes through, Iraqi wife-abusers will be able to add "It is my constitutional right to beat you."

An Iraqi constitution is necessary, and the need for urgency is apparent, but urgency is a bad argument for passing a bill that strips half the nation of its rights. In Ontario, minorities come first and individual women within minorities last, living as second-class citizens and suffering in silence.

Read and then, ponder, then answer the question posed by Patrick Henry.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren (and sisters) are already in the field!

Why stand we here idle?


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Monday, 15 August 2005
An Ace High Straight Flush, Beats A Queen High Hand
Topic: Iraq War
Quite some time ago, I got into a "disagreement" on a Netscape Discussion Board. It's too bad that since Compuserve took over the message boards there, that forum among others with several years of debates dropped into the world wide void.

In any case my opposite number was making a large production of an outfit called,VETERANS FOR PEACE, he loudly proclaimed that they were the largest Anti-War Vet org and proof that the Veteran Community opposed the War.

SO, I checked out their website. At the time they were proudly proclaiming that their membership had rocketed to a whole 2500 members.

Say WHAT? I posted back that, there being some 25 MILLION Vets in the US, I could not see where 1/10 of 1/10 of One Percent had any moral claim to speak for the whole and while I was not going to make the claim that the entire Vet Community supported the War without consulting them, neither could this group, they could only speak for themselves and NOT the Veterans Community.

The exchange rapidly devolved into sputtering invective and ad hominem attacks. I, to paraphrase Alice's Restaurant, was obviously someone who likes to Eat Dead Burnt Bodies and KILL, KILL, KILL!

We have all been there on the internet at one time or another, hold up and mirror and show them how foolish they look uttering some ludicrous claim and all the ills of the world become YOUR fault

The point I wish to make is that the Anti-War Movement is holding a Queen high hand, now if we meander over to Chrenkoff, you can see what a Ace high Straight Flush looks like.
"Maureen Dowd: "The moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute."

Don't argue and fuss, AGREE. Say of COURSE this is true and we should LISTEN to:

Lynn Kelly
"I don't agree" with Sheehan's views, said Lynn Kelly of Pitman, whose son, Marine Cpl. Sean P. Kelly, was killed in a helicopter crash in Iraq in January.

Linda Ryan:
"Marine Cpl. Marc T. Ryan, of Gloucester City, was killed in an explosion in Ramadi, Iraq in November.
"George Bush didn't kill her son,
it's the evildoers who have no value of life who killed her son. "George Bush was my son's commander-in-chief. My son, Marc, totally believed in what he was doing," she said."

Thomas Zapp:Among those attending the pro-Bush rally was Thomas Zapp, of Richmond, Texas, whose 20-year-old son, Marine Lance Cpl. T.J. Zapp, was killed by a bomb in Iraq on Nov. 8, 2004
Zapp said that it was unfair for Sheehan to demand a

second meeting

with the president when many parents of slain GIs, like himself, have not even had a single meeting.

"I have not met with President Bush," he told the Tribune-Herald.

"Why should she get to meet with President Bush again?"

Robert Hoffman:Motorcycles roared their engines Saturday to herald the funeral procession of Marine Sgt. Justin Hoffman, one of 14 Marines killed last week in the deadliest roadside bombing since U.S. troops invaded Iraq...

"'Freedom is not free' is a phrase we hear every day, but few of us understand what it means," Robert Hoffman said Saturday at his son's funeral in Powell, another Columbus suburb. "Justin and the Lima Company understood. They gave up their lives for it

Jim Boskovitch:
Jim Boskovitch is the father of Corporal Jeff Boskovitch, one of five Marine snipers killed on Monday [8 August]. He says his family came to the vigil to support the troops still in Iraq.

I have only gone down part of the page, but why post anymore names here? You have drawn to an Ace High Straight Flush, are you going to discard and draw another card?

Just like 1/10 of 1/10 of One percent of Veterans could not speak for all 25 Million Vets, one parent cannot speak for all.

My personal thoughts are that we should not directly confront Mrs. Sheehan on any contradictions in her statements. It allows the other side to put on the Moral Armor of Righteous Indignation and accuse us of attacking the mother of a slain soldier. Remember in DailyKos it was suggested that Casey Sheehan's name never be mentioned, they wish to bury his memory and forget he was a Volunteer, who reenlisted

Instead let us go forth under this banner

The moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute."

But let the other parents carry that banner as our vanguard. Let their own rally call be used against them.

Maureen Dowd may be a broken clock, but even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day.

UPDATE OH My GOD! Mrs Sheehan's handlers have NO Idea what is heading towards them or how it is going to hit them
Just read this at Michelle Malkin
Meanwhile, Move America Forward has a new spot from the head of Marine Moms of America. They are also organizing a caravan of military families that will head to Crawford, Tx., to counter the anti-war circus.

No corporate jets for these grass-roots activists.

Can you think of anything more intimidating than a caravan of PO?d Marine Moms?
I mean for one thing they make no attempt to pass themselves off at Pacifists. and DailyKos was crowing about getting a herd of Moms after Bush? THEY are about to have a MMEF (Marine Mom Expeditionary Forces) land on their heads and kick the other end. ROTFLMAO


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Sunday, 14 August 2005
Death of a Warrior
Topic: Iraq War
With so much exposure lately of one particular person who blames President Bush for the death of her son. It is best to reflect that not all families think of the War in that manner.

One such family includes the one which descends from Tshunka Witko. Chief Crazy Horse who helped defeat Lt. Col.George Armstrong Custer, at the
Battle of Greasy Creek (Little Big Horn).

For some of us who are descended from the First Nations, the Indian Wars were long ago and this also OUR Country and it has been attacked and must be defended. Sheldon Ray Hawk was a member of the
Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe. One of the things that first struck ME about this website was that the domain was Tsalagi is one of the Ancient Names for the Cherokee in our original language which does not contain the sounds Ch or R.

Even though I am not Lakota, this website speaks also to me. I have duplicated part of it here, I encourage you to go read all of it listen to the music, and REFLECT. Sheldon's People did NOT feel his death was useless, He died as a WARRIOR

101st. Airborne Division
Fort Campbell Kentucky

21 year old PFC Sheldon Hawk Eagle, an enrolled member of the Cheyenne River
Sioux Tribe

was among the seventeen soldiers who were killed on Friday, November 14, 2003, in a
tragic crash between two U.S. helicopters in Northern Iraq, believed to have been
by enemy fire.

Sheldon Ray Hawk Eagle was carried to the Heart of
all that is, Paha Sapa, the Black Hills and laid to rest as
warrior with honor, dignity and respect.
His body was carried by a horse- drawn cart.
His coffin covered with a flag and eagle feathers.

A riderless horse draped with a red, white and blue
blanket waited with the horse drawn cart.
The horse, called a spirit horse will carry the warrior
swiftly to heaven. The horse wears an Eagle feather,
to represent Sheldon, for the thoughts of a man that should
rise as high as do the eagles and his sacrifice for his Nations.
It is the highest honor given to a warrior.
Sheldon descends from Tshunka Witko.
Chief Crazy Horse who helped defeat
Lt. Col.George Armstrong Custer, at the
Battle of Greasy Creek (Little Big Horn).

The riderless horse, with boots backward in the
stirrups symbolizing a fallen soldier.
Indian drums and honor songs welcomed the hero
to the sacred Paha Sapa, his final resting place.
As he was being buried, a Black Hawk helicopter flew
over the cemetery, lingered in the snowy hills.
It flew into the heart of all that is,
and was gone.
~~Somehow, it did not seem like enough.~~

The Above is only a small part of the whole, go HERE for ALL of it.

Note my discovery of this website pre-dates my blogging days, at the time I sent the information to
One-Hand-Clapping as I recall he posted about it. The Gunner has a way with words if I can find that post I will link to it HERE.


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Updated: Sunday, 3 June 2007 6:38 AM CDT
Not in MY Name
Topic: Iraq War
At First I thought about titling this post,

Why They Need To Lose
or maybe
Why They HAVE to Lose

It contains a perfect and sordid example of why
I decided some of the thing said by the Left in control of the Democratic Party, I no longer wanted to be said in MY name.

Not that I paint the entire Party with the same tar brush, it contains many good decent sincere people and there IS hope for them, they can still wake up and become Neo-Cons.

But it is obvious that some on the Left side of the Political Aisle have diverged so far from what most Americans think, believe and feel, that they no longer realize the disgust some of us might feel, seeing their plans laid out in plain sight.

If you can stomach it, read through the following, after which I will detail my reactions and thoughts.

Framing Cindy Sheehan - we are making errors

by dataguy
Sat Aug 13th, 2005 at 06:56:05 PDT

We are making errors with references to Cindy Sheehan.

What are we trying to accomplish with promoting her?

1. Emphasizing her sacrifice.

2. Emphasizing her stating truth to power.

3. Emphasizing her plain speaking, clear statements.

4. Relate her vigil over her dead son to universal archetypes of all vigils over dead children killed by dictatorial rulers throughout all history.

My suggestions below:

* dataguy's diary :: ::

1. We should call her "Mother Sheehan". We should never call her Cindy; I don't know her. "Mother Sheehan" is her title, and expresses her ceremonial status as a bereaved mother, calling forth over the dead body of her son. She is not a person now, she is a mother, which is not an expression of her individuality, but rather the expression of her eternal character: the mother, the bringer of life who has been wronged by state power.

2. We should use the word "sacrifice". She has sacrificed the most precious thing a mother has, the life and promise of her child.

3. We should use the word "useless" frequently. The death of her son is a useless sacrifice, done for the vanity of the ruler.

4. We should not use the name of her son.
Her son is a symbol of all sons who have been sacrificed for this useless and criminal war.

5. The term "vigil" should be used to describe the persons and their patient petition to the dictatorial ruler. It is a vigil over the body of the dead son, killed by the ruler for his own purposes.

6. The right will try to INDIVIDUALIZE and SPECIALIZE her complaint. We must try to make her cry the UNIVERSAL and ETERNAL cry of all mothers whose children have died at the whim of the tyrannical and dictatorial ruler, who has made the decision to push children to the front of the army for his own, useless purposes. We must seek to make this like funeral vigils over all time. This is not Mother Sheehan's vigil, this is a vigil over the dead son, killed by the ruler for his own selfish reasons.

7. If there are any persons who are theatre professionals at the Sheenan vigil, they should arrange things much more theatrically.

8. If I was there, I would not let Mother Sheehan talk to the press, but I would have her talk only through a spokesperson. In particular, I wouldnot allow her to argue with critics, and would allow no critics to approach her. Her dignity must be preserved. If lesser emissaries from the ruler arrive (C Rice, etc), these should not be allowed to speak to Mother Sheehan."

There you have it folks, FIRST Casey Sheehan must be forgotten and his name never used. Why? It is simple. This Nation no longer uses conscript troops to fight its Battles. Our men and women in uniform are all VOLUNTEERS. For various reasons they choose to serve, None are rounded up and forced to serve their country.

Casey Sheehan was such a person, In a website I often go to called Parkway Rest Stop Casey ( I will NOT allow this brave man's name to go unmentioned) is discussed.

Posted by: Dan at August 12, 2005 12:39 AM

Casey enlisted in the Army in 2000. His mother did not sign the enlistment papers, he did. While on leave, Ms. Sheehan tried to convince him to go AWOL to Canada. Casey refused and told her that as much as he didn't want to go to Iraq, his buddies were there and he couldn't let them down.

We're all a little poorer for having lost Casey. He was a straight-up honest guy with a lot more integrity than his mother is displaying. Instead of honoring her own son's true character, she is making him out to be some sort of friggin idiot by stating that "he never imagined being involved in a combat situation." Any of us who have been in the military know that you would have to be a complete imbecile to believe that. You know from the moment you receive small arms training why they are teaching you to shoot (both sides). You can't help but notice almost every street sign on your base or post has the name of someone who died in a "combat situation." You may think it's not probable, but you know it's always possible.

I give Ms. Sheehan credit for having raised a son with the character to honor his fellow soldiers even while he knew it might cost him his life

Everyone handles grief differently, I will make no statement about Mrs. Sheehan's actions. But she is not the only American Mother who has lost a loved one in this conflict. Thousands have , some BEFORE out entry into Iraq. I lost a cousin in Beirut. His name was also Casey. But HE thought what he was doing MATTERED, my Cousin Casey thought serving his country MEANT something.

But these people on DailyKos? They want to forget and ignore that there was even a Man named Casey Sheehan, They want only a symbol that they can use theatrically. They want to take over and rewrite the Story of his life and just to make certain this is done with out mistakes?

They don't even want to


She might not do it the way THEY want?

In our own Grief we often forget how much others Grieve. Iraq the Model has a touching message to Mrs. Sheehan on his website.

A message to Cindy Sheehan

I realize how tragic your loss is and I know how much pain there is crushing your heart and I know the darkness that suddenly came to wrap your life and wipe away your dreams and I do feel the heat of your tears that won't dry until you find the answers to your question; why you lost your loved one?

I have heard your story and I understand that you have the full right to ask people to stand by your side and support your cause. At the beginning I told myself, this is yet another woman who lost a piece of her heart and the questions of war, peace and why are killing her everyday. To be frank to you the first thing I thought of was like "why should I listen or care to answer when there are thousands of other women in America, Iraq and Afghanistan who lost a son or a husband or a brother??

But today I was looking at your picture and I saw in your eyes a persistence, a great pain and a torturing question; why?

I know how you feel Cindy, I lived among the same pains for 35 years but worse than that was the fear from losing our loved ones at any moment. Even while I'm writing these words to you there are feelings of fear, stress, and sadness that interrupt our lives all the time but in spite of all that I'm sticking hard to hope which if I didn't have I would have died years ago.

I won't post the entire message here. I want you to go to Iraq the Model and read what Mohammed wrote there. It may help to take the taste of the post in DailyKos out of your mouth.

He closes with these words.

Your son sacrificed his life for a very noble cause?No, he sacrificed himself for the most precious value in this existence; that is freedom.

His blood didn't go in vain; your son and our brethren are drawing a great example of selflessness.
God bless his free soul and God bless the souls of his comrades who are fighting evil.
God bless the souls of Iraqis who suffered and died for the sake of freedom.
God bless all the freedom lovers on earth.

Mrs. Sheehan is not the only American mother to lose a loved one in this struggle, Thousands have. Some of them lost them before this battle in what I think of as a Long and Bitter War.

As I stated before my family lost a member in Beirut. His name was Casey too. My Cousin thought what HE did had meaning. My family agrees. He is remembered, with honor and love.

THEY would like to extinguish the name and desires of Casey Sheehan. They want to rewrite the Story of his Life into a Tale of something USELESS instead of something that had MEANING!

THAT is why the need to lose in the political arena of this Country.

THAT is why they HAVE to lose.

That is why decent Americans must speak out against this sordid distortion of a Brave Man's Life and tell them.


Do you spit on this Brave Soldier's Memory!

Keep in mind this thought, this is their own words.

We should not use the name of her son.

His name is CASEY SHEEHAN and it shines BRIGHTLY with HONOR.


You can leave a message in memory of this soldier, and/or to the loved ones left behind.



This is a memorial page for Spc. Casey Sheehan. This is not a political forum nor Cindy Sheehan's personal message board. Any messages not directly related to Spc. Casey Sheehan are inappropriate for this website and will be removed or edited.


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Updated: Sunday, 3 June 2007 6:39 AM CDT
Saturday, 13 August 2005
When They Have No Ideas Of Their Own
Topic: Out of Flyover Land
I don't read DailyKos much, but at times I like to meander over to that website and be reminded WHY, a man whose Grandfather's name, was Stonewall Jackson Puckett, dropped a Party affiliation that had been unbroken in his family since the Dawn of the Republic and LEFT the Democratic Party.

It is really Sad in a way, I completely identified with Zell Miller, when he said in his speech, "I did not Leave the Democratic Party, they left me."

Here is what I found, that reminded me WHY I became what is called a Neo-Con

"For example, while I am skeptical of a short term strategy that can deliver significant wins for Dems in the South, the medium and long term offer opportunities. But I think they come from the devolution strategy that Howard Dean is trying to execute, creating strong state Democratic parties that control their own local message. National branding still requires a national message and, more importantly, negative branding of the Republicans."

(emphasis added by me)

Like I say, it IS so SAD. JFK and some of the other GREAT names in the History of our Nation and the Democratic Party were never forced to resort to negative branding of the Republicans." as the most Important Part of their message.

The was a time the Democratic Party stood FOR something and instead of only AGAINST things, there was a time when it had Leaders who said things like

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

This much we pledge—and more.

To those old allies whose cultural and spiritual origins we share, we pledge the loyalty of faithful friends. United, there is little we cannot do in a host of cooperative ventures. Divided, there is little we can do—for we dare not meet a powerful challenge at odds and split asunder.

To those new States whom we welcome to the ranks of the free, we pledge our word that one form of colonial control shall not have passed away merely to be replaced by a far more iron tyranny. We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view. But we shall always hope to find them strongly supporting their own freedom—and to remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside.

To those peoples in the huts and villages across the globe struggling to break the bonds of mass misery, we pledge our best efforts to help them help themselves, for whatever period is required—not because the Communists may be doing it, not because we seek their votes, but because it is right. If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich."

I don't feel like I have to negative brand the Party of Kerry, Clinton, Pelosi and Dean, they have done a far better job than I ever could.

You want to know what I Stand FOR?

I stand for THIS


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Updated: Sunday, 3 June 2007 6:37 AM CDT
One If By Land
Two If By Sea

I want to thank everyone who has linked to me the last few weeks, it was a long climb up from Insignificant Microbe to Flippery Fish and I DO appreciate the help.

But today I want to ask for a favor for a blog that most would not think needs ecosystem help.

Winds of Change has always been one of my favorites and I just can not stand to see it a mere 15 links behind The Huffington Post.

So if you are linked to me or have just stumbled onto this site by accident, Please give them a look over if you have never been there and link them to your blog.

It might seem presumptuous for me trying to round up links for the 26th ranked blog in the blogsphere, but
as Kosovo's president, Ibrahim Rugov said to America when he gave his condolences and support after the Fall of the World Trade Tower:

"We are small, but even small friends can be important."

I call my blog The Committees of Correspondence, because I DO think of the Blogs as the 21st Century Committees of Correspondence.

So ride forth with the message and come to the Aid of one of the Premier Committees, Winds of Change.


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Updated: Saturday, 13 August 2005 8:18 AM CDT
Friday, 12 August 2005
FLASH! US Government Triple X Website Uncovered.
Not a spoof site,
Like tells the Story of that website


an Official US Government Website.

It's address is XXX.LANL.GOV


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