The Coasters Web
OFF-SHOOT COASTERS RECORDS
The recordings by The Coastersī ex-members
Note: Members of the non-original Coastersī groups may not all agree with the editorīs "fake Coasters" labeling.
Edited by Claus Röhnisch (updated June 9, 2011)
Thanks to Stefan Pingel-Wriedt, Charles Sheen, Todd Baptista, Joy Stewart-Evans, Bob McGrath, and Matthew Broyles.
THE COASTERS OFF-SHOTS
WITH DISCOGRAPHY & OFF-SHOT, FAKE & BOGUS COASTERS CHART
The Fight Against Impostors at YouTube
Bobby Nunn with
Bobby Nunn's Coasters of 1977.
Bobby Nunnīs Coasters of the early ī70s; Right: Richards, Sheen, Randy Jones, and Nunn.
Left: Bobby Nunnīs Coasters in the early 1960s with Randy Jones, Richards Jr and Nunn.
Right: Billy Richardsī and Bobby Sheenīs Coasters of 1973;
from left: Richards Jr, Bobby Sheen, and Randy Jones. Photos ctsy Charles Sheen.
Nonny Nunn's Coasters with Randy, Richards and Shenn.
Video Bobby Nunn's Coasters
Chicken.Churches jingle mp3 (1985)
(featuring Bobby Sheen, Bobby Nunn, Billy Richards, and Sonny Chaney)
ctsy Charles Sheen
of Nunnīs group turned into two groups - one led by Billy Richards Jr and one by Grady
Chapman. The Billy Richards Jr group toured as Billy Richardsī Coasters
and also as "The (West) Coasters" - with managements in
Tennessee, California and New York (Larry Marshak, SIC). His group originally included
remnants of the late Nunnīs Coasters group - Randy Jones, Tommy Turner and Bobby Sheen -
sometimes also Tony Ruiz and Dexter Tisby. In 1989 the group consisted of Richards, Sheen
and Randy Jones. By the late ī90s Richardsī group featured Henry Miller, Larry Tate and
Sandy Wyatt (who continued to perform after Richardsī brain anuerisym). Billy Richardsī
Coasters (with Richards Jr still up front - although in bad condition) still acted in
2002 - singing all The Coastersī original hits; and with Larry Tate acting bass
"equally as good as Dub Jones" (fan Sam Leandro reports). Billy
Richards' Coasters of today have a
web entry at myspace.com with a lot of "borrowed" material from this
site, but also some audios and extra information of that group. Members of
the group according to that entry in 2006 are:
Billy Richards, Larry Tate, Duane Jackson, and
Billy Richards' Coasters today.
Grady Chapmanīs group toured as Grady Chapmanīs Coasters (originally featuring Nunn) and as "Bobby Nunn Tribute Coasters Group" - after Nunnīs death. Gradyīs group also sporadically featured Leon Hughes, Billy Guy, Will "Dub" Jones, sometimes even Billy Richards Jr, and especially Jerome Evans (who was a constant member - originally from the Furys and who also had sung with Bobby Hendricksī Drifters), plus Charles Jackson and Randy Jones. Bobby Sheen joined Grady and the two performed together, on-and-off, through the 1980s and 1990s together with Jerome Evans right up until a few weeks before Sheenīs death - using the name "The Fabulous Coasters" (with performances in a club in Tustin, California and in the year of 2000 in Hobbs, New Mexico). "The Fabulous Coasters" even toured Germany in October, 2000 (featuring Grady with Robert Baker, Jerome Evans and Randy Jones). During 1993 Grady substituted a couple of times for Carl Gardner in Gardnerīs true Coasters group and Grady recently has started his own new line -up of The Robins (probably featuring the most recent line-up of Chapmanīs "Coasters" (Robert Baker - who used to sing with Gunterīs group, Bobby Johnson - who sang with the Hollywood Flames, and Billy Foster - from Vernon Green & the Medallions. (Thanks Joy Stewart-Evans for information on the latter-day Chapman Coasters - and for the photos that youīll find at this link. Also thanks to Jackson Hart concerning some of the information on the California Coasters - and to Charles Sheen - who supplied the photos above and more at this link).
Cornell Gunter (and his off-springs)
First photo fr.l. Cornell Gunter, Dexter Tisby, unknown and Randy Jones (circa 1964; information ctsy Charles Sheen).
Cornell Gunter's "Fabulous Coasters" of the 1970s.
Left image: Gunter far left and Nat "Buster" Wilson far right.
The 1980s ctsy www.EdwinCook.com
Left: Teddy Harper, Cornell Gunter and Charlie Duncan (ca 1970s).
Right: The Original "Cornell Gunter's" Coasters of 2007 with Charlie Duncan, Tony Scruggs and Lionel Pope.
(from the cornellgunterscoastersinc web site)
Duncan's Coasters of 2011
Billy Guy & Will Jones
Billy Guy made his first attempt as a solo artist back in 1962, when he recorded 16 tracks för ABC-Paramount and Lloyd Priceīs Double L label in New York - with no great success, although the recordings were pretty interesting (and later turned up as by "The Coasters"). Still recording and touring with the Coasters up to 1973, he often was substituted by Vernon Harrell on stage and later by Jimmy Norman. Guy continued recording several records in his own name for other labels after 1973 but also waxed couple of sessions as by "The Coasters" during the 1970s - especially a session for King/Gusto in Nashville in 1977 with Will "Dub" Jones. Jones himself had already recorded as "The Coasters" (the album "The World Famous Coasters") around 1976 together with Leon Hughes. Jones settled in Los Angeles around 1979. He acted during the ī80s (starting in 1983) and ' 90s with an L.A. Coasters group, led by Billy Guy and sometimes featuring Grady Chapman. They worked as "The World Famous Coasters" - and as "The Coasters" in later years. Will was semi-retired during his later years, mostly acting as a gospel singer. Billy Guy started to semi-coach a Las Vegas "The Coasters", often billed as "Billy Guyīs Coasters", managed by Larry Marshak of RCI Management in New York during the latter part of 1998. Marshak had negotiated a business deal with Guy after the termination of a similar contract with the Billly Richards group (see more on "Coastinī with The Coasters"). Marshak is the organizer behind several of the new, phony name-sakes in the U.S. - young groups billing themselves and touring as "The Platters", "The Drifters" or/and "The Coasters".
Jessie Floyd, Billy Guy, Kendal Floiyd, Will "Dub" Jones,
and guitarist/music director Lawrence McCue in thelate '80s/early '90s.
Leon Hughes & Young Jessie
Bogus (promotor: Larry Marshak, with Early Clover et al)
Gardner, Guy, Jones and Gunter were "handed" the name The Coasters individually from Lester Sill (who had the "business rights") by a written assignment in the mid ī60s, but there is only one group truly deserving the name of THE COASTERS - Carl Gardnerīs group (Carl filed a Service Mark of "The Coasters" at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office on July 15, 1986, No. 1401608, for 20 years). In early 1998 Gardner settled an agreement with Billy Richards, and Carl thereby got the sole right to use the name of "The Coasters". In early 2000 Billy Guy handed over his "rights" to Carl and retired, and later Gardner won a court case against Larry Marshak, but Marshak immediately made a deal with Gunterīs sister Shirley and started to promote "Cornell Gunterīs Coasters" at Capitol International (who where the same fake group that Billy Guy had semi-coached during the latter part of the ī90s). That group sometimes continued to name themselves "The Billy Guy Coasters" and also simply used "Coasters" (see image below). The name used most often these days though is "The Cornell Gunter Coasters" (with several engagements in Las Vegas and a couple of CDs issued). The first fake Coasters group Marshak managed was the Billy Richards group (after Nunnīs death). Richards signed a strange deal with Marshak handing over the "rights" to use the name the Coasters. When Richards changed management, Marshak signed a deal with Billy Guy during the late ī90s (using the name The Billy Guy Coasters) and when Billy settled with Gardner in the year of 2000, Marshak again found one to "fool" - this time Shirley Gunter (the blind sister of the now diseased Cornell) who let Marshak use Cornell Gunterīs name (meanwhile the true remnants of Gunterīs old fake group started Cornell Gunterīs Coasters Inc - thatīs why there are several groups using Gunterīs name). Marshak filed bankruptcy in mid 2002. The Cornell Gunter Coasters of 2002 (and 2008) lead singer Early Clover joined the bogus Coasters in 1988 and also acted with the fake Platters and Drifters groups and nowadays also tours as a solo artist (still leading one of the fake Marshak Cornell Gunterī's Coasters).
| MORE! | In early 2005 the Cornell Gunter Coasters featured Dave Revels (still lead in 2009), Earnest Harrison, Mike Raysor, and Ron Beau. Later that year veteran Revels was flanked by Mike Bossard, Thomas Ross, and Lee Bellinger. The Sahara Cornell Gunter's Coasters in 2006 - and in 2007: Steve Smith, Cliff Dawson, Donald Pinkney and Early Clover. (more). In early 2007 Dennis Anderson, James Hayes, Tom Ross and Sam White acted as the Cornell Gunter Coasters on the West Coast. Marshak's groups consist of different singers at different events. | The fake Coasters in Las Vegas, September 2007 | (note - not Beary Hobb's Drifters anymore, but "the legendary lead singers of the Temptations" or "The Temptations Reunion Show" for a short while - and then suddenly The Marvelettes) - Sahara Hotel site.
Myles Savage (from the modern-days Platters), Barry Gunn (from Cornell Gunter Coasters), Ira Greig (from Beary Hobbs' Drifters), and Wolf Johnson (from Richard Street's Temptations) toured together during 2007 - and in 2008 Savage did some shows as "The Stars" with Glen Leonard (Temptations), Bobby Hendriks (Drifters) and J.W. Lance from the Coasters.
Below are listed all recording sessions issued as by "The Coasters", but which are not by Gardnerīs group. Each entry begins with a track time identification (when known).
THE COASTERS and their off-shoots SHEET (SHEET below on pdf.file)
|Timeline||THE ROBINS||Off Shoot Groups||THE COASTERS||Off Shoot Groups||Bogus Coasters|
|Nunn, Gardner, Chapman, Richard, Richard, Terrell|
|1956||The Robins||The Coasters|
|Chapman, Richard, Richard, Terrell, Barnum||Carl Gardner, Bobby Nunn, Billy Guy, Leon Hughes|
|1958||The Robins||The Coasters|
|Sheen, RichardsJr, Richard, Chapman||Carl Gardner, Billy Guy, Will Jones, Cornell Gunter|
|Gardner, Guy, Jones, Earl Carroll||The Fabulous Coasters|
|Nunn, Sheen, RichardsJr, Chapman||Gunter, Harper, Tisby, Randy Jones|
|1967||Nunn, Sheen, RichardsJr, RandyJones||
& His Coasters
|1968||The Coasters||Gunter, Harper, Wilson a..o.|
|Gardner, Guy, Carroll, Ronnie Bright|
|1973||The Coasters||Coasters 2+2|
Gardner, Carroll, Bright,
|Hughes, Nunn, Chapman, JeromeEvans|
|1976||World Famous Coasters|
|1977||Hughes, Jones a.o.||World Famous Coasters|
|Guy, Jones a.o.|
& His Coasters
|Gardner, Norman, Bright||Gunter, Duncan, Cook||Jones, Guy a.o.|
|1987||Billy Richards' Coasters||Bobby Nunn Tribute Coasters||Leon Hughes, the original Coaster|
|1990||RichardsJr, RandyJones a.o.||Chapman, Sheen, JeromeEvans, RandyJones||Cornell Gunter's Coasters, Inc||Hughes, Little Dion a.o.|
|1998||The Coasters||Duncan, Cook, Pope|
|1999||The Fabulous Coasters||Gardner, Bright, Morse, Gardner Jr||Billy Guy's Coasters|
|featuring Grady Chapman||Marshak's bogus group featuring Early Clover|
|2001||The Coasters||The Cornell Gunter Coasters|
|Gardner, Bright, Morse, Lance||Marshak's diff bogus groups of today|
Carl Gardner's Coasters
|Cornell Gunter's Coasters||Marshak had managed Billy Richard's group before 2000.|
|2007||featuring Grady Chapman||GardnerJr, Bright, Morse, Lance||The Original Cornell Gunters Coasters||featuring Edwin Cook|
|There were even more "Coasters" groups formed from "off-springs" of the Off-Shoot groups.||Duncan, Pope, Scruggs|
Nine (or ten - "Rocking My Soul"
possibly also included) of the tracks from above session are included in a cassette tape
titled "Rocking My Soul" (see image left). The tracks are: The Deodorant
Song, Prison Break, Sanitary, Whip It On Me, It Donīt Take Much, Black Book, Sister
Blabber Mouth, Wonīt Be Long, If You Need Somebody (note the retitled songs of some of
the above). Six tracks of the above are included on a CD titled "Rockinī My
Soul", which also features four Gardner Trip recordings.
THE COASTERS featuring Cornell Gunther
(Cornell Gunter, lead vcl; and Bobby Seeger /Stregar/, Nat "Buster" Wilson and Lloyd Wolf, vocals). Unknown accomp. incl. horns and rhythm. Bootleg recordings by Ron Bartolucci / Little Walter De Venne.
Paulīs Maul, Boston, Mass., 1970
8:46 Intro & Medley: Itīs Your Thing/Knock On Wood/Funky Broadway/Land Of 1.000 Dances/Yakety Yak
BILLY GUY & THE
(featuring Billy Guy). Billy Guy, solo vocal (on SalWa) and prod. Unknown accomp.
Hollywood, 1975 (prob two diff sessions)
2:27 You Move Me SalWa 1001
1:57 Take It Easy Greazy SalWa 1001
2:30 Watergate (Put Some Funk On, Cause The Money's Been Long Gone) BlackCircle 102 (listen)
2:10 Hockey-Puck BlackCircle 102
Note: SalWa has publisher Screen Gems. BlackCircle record produced by Guy and H.B. Barnum.
CORNELL GUNTER'S COASTERS
(featuring Cornell Gunter, lead; with Teddy Harper, Nat "Buster" Wilson; and Gaetano "Lee Diamond" LaMotta).
Unknown instrumentation incl strings, brass, organ and rhythm. Unknown prod. The single issued as "Cornell Gunter".
Wally Heider Studios, San Francisco, November 1975
2:46 Down In Mexico Together 101 listen
2:36 Poison Ivy unissued listen
3:13 Love In My Heart Together 101 listen
2:27 Wishing Well unissued listen
Note: Thanks Gaetano LaMotta for information on this session (and for the links to the audios at liothelion). Last two tracks filed as "Cornell Gunter Originals".
FAMOUS" COASTERS or
(featuring Will "Dub" Jones, bass vcl-1/lead-2; Leon Hughes, vcl + unknown singers). Almost certainly the vocal-line ups are two different lineups - therefore prob. two sessions. J. Rhys, engineer.
Orchestration incl. horns and rhythm. Andy Di Martino (aka Aloysius De Marino),prod.
Los Angeles, ca 1976
4:41 If I Had A Hammer -2 American International Artists AI -1122, LP AIA-333, GAP LP HWS 016, DJM(E) LP 22053
2:40 I Got To Boogie -1 LP AIA-333, GAP HWS 016, DJM(E) LP 22053
2:48 Searchinī as above
2:14 Charlie Brown as above (not GAP)
2:40 Poison Ivy as above (not GAP)
1:45 Yakety Yak as above (not GAP)
2:07 Young Blood as above
2:40 Along Came Jones as above (not GAP)
3:17 Benjamin And Loretta -1 as above
2:46 The Chick Is Guilty as above
|Note: "I Got To Boogie" written by M. Smotherman (publ. A. Dimartino Music /Valentine). AIA-LP is probably the original album issue on American International Artists (see image on the "disco version" - the B-side of "If I Had A Hammer" - with the same track on each side of the single - track time 4:40 - the A-side is same track with time 3:15). The GAP LP is a US Garner Artist Production and DJM album is the British issue, both titled "The World Famous Coasters" and reissued on C-Five C5CD 579 as "The Coasters - Just Coastinī". The three noted tracks and poss. a couple of the others definitely feature Will Jones (on "I Got To Boogie" the lead asks "Dub" to pass his jug). Leon Hughes most possibly on all tracks. Thanks Ray Baradat for the information about Leon Hughes on the above session. The A-side of 4:41, now 3:20, reissued on Ripete 3-track single REP-1039 as by Carl Gardner & The Coasters - with the flip by the Tams and by Clarence Carter. The GAP LP has ten tracks: If I Had A Hammer, Steps To Your Heart, Helpless In Love, Searchin', Everybody Needs Somebody, I Got To Boogie, Youngblood, Benhamin And Loretta, The Chick Is Guilty, Midnight On Boothill (some of those tracks may feature a complete different white group).|
THE WORLD FAMOUS COASTERS
(featuring Leon Hughes, vcl + unknown singers). Produced by Leon Hughes and Rayce Gentry.
Live in Lake Tahoe (Calif.-Nevada) and Japan, circa 1977
So Fine AceHi M-101
Baby What You Want Me To Do AceHi M-101
(Billy Guy, lead vcl; Will "Dub" Jones, bass vcl; and Jack Grochmal, harmony vcl).
Louis Lofredo, dir/prod; Jeff Tweel and Pete Thomason, co-prods; Jan Robin Meurer, sub-prod; Mike Stone,eng. Musicians: Clay Caire, Jack Grochmal, Sid Johnston, Larry Sasser, Stephen Shaffer, Rod Smarr, Denis Solee, Pete Thomason, Jeff Tweel. Background vocals: Pebble Daniel, Linda Hargrove, Marcis Routh, Pamela Thacker, and some of the musicians. (Thanks Jack Grochmal for the information on the fact that "Dub" was in on this session in Nashville!).
King/Gusto studios, Nashville, Tenn., late 1977
3:28 Ainīt No Greens In Harlem Fleet(H) 15674, Ariola(H)unkn. #, Polydor(G) 2040.273
3:22 Jumbo Bwana as above, plus MasterTone (US) CD 8338
1:48 Yakety Yak King-Gusto GT4-2057, Bellaphon (G) 100-27-077, Gusto LP PO-310
2:21 Charlie Brown as above
2:47 Searchinī Gusto LP PO-310
2:48 Little Egypt as above
2:20 Young Blood as above
2:55 Along Came Jones as above
2:44 Poison Ivy as above
3:35 One Foot Dragginī as above, plus LECD, Bam KLMCD 036, MasterTone (US) CD 8338, CD AB 3319
3:48 Beaver Dreamin' Download "Rock Masters"
Note: 3:35 composed by Charlie Craig (Power Play Music). The Gusto LP, titled "The Coasters Greatest Hits", also features "Love Potion Number Nine" and "D.W. Washburn" by the Coasters (see King sessions) and was reissued on Highland/Hollywood HCD-282, Onyx Point CD 264136 and as "Best of the Best" on Federal FED-CD-6543. 3:28 composed by Carl Fisher and 3:22 by Peter K. Thomason and Jeff Tweel (both published by Roba/Baiesie). All tracks on LP PO-310 reissued in 1986 on DeLuxe(Canada) CD 1006 "16 Greatest Hits" together with eight tracks from the Coastersī "On Broadway" album for King plus on Highland/DeLuxe LP DLX-7786 and CD DCD-7786 together with all tracks on the Coastersī"On Broadway" album as "The Coasters - 20 Greatest Hits" in 1987 (reissued on Gusto/TeeVee TV-0750-2 in 2006). Leiber-Stoller-Bienstock had sold their shares of King/Starday before these recordings. Bam CD titled "Young Blood". "Beaver Dreamin'" is featured on the downloadable album, titled Rock Masters (issued 2005), also featuring six Gusto and the Fleet tracks, plus tracks from Guy's 1963 recordings and "Love Potion No. 9" from Gardner's Trip session.
(Bobby Nunn, Bobby Sheen, Billy Richards Jr, Randy Jones, vocals). Orchestration incl. horns, strings and rhythm: Joe Clark, Ben Bena, Jimmy Nunya, Billy Bass, Wilton Gites, Bobby Haines, Brother John, Dave Hemper, Gary Ferguson, James Ingram, Billy Mitchell, Bill Como, Don Preston, Roland Hill, Brenton Banks, Vince Charles, The Good Brother OīDell, Bobby Sheen, Jerry Summerville, Gary Barone, The Salsa Band. Jimmy Nunya, Bobby Sheen, Billy Richards,prod. Engineers: Al Ramirez, Art Stewart, Joe Connizzaro, Joe Klein. Jimmy Nunya, manager. Mark Traversino, studio manager at Drew Studio.
Drew Studio on Sunset-Gower -1; Star-Trak Rec. Studio, Marvin Gaye Studio, and Joeīs Place
Los Angeles, California, c.a 1977 and 1978
Chan - 1
Salsa Picante SLP 10001
4:25 Dance Coasting as above
5:35 Disco Calypso as above
2:46 One Of These Days as above
4:55 My Sweet Baby as above
3:56 Love Is A Funny Thing as above
3:38 The Big Rip-Off as above
Note: Salsa Picante LP issued in U.S. in 1979 as "The Coasters...Coasting". "Charlie Chan" possibly recorded earlier. Mark Traversino ("Charlie Chan"), Richards, Sheen, Nunya, McPhilbin and Kent Harris listed as composers on the seven disco-type tracks on that LP; Harrisī composition "The Big Rip-Off" - featuring Nunn and Randy Jones is not disco-music, but true ghetto blues. Photo on Salsa Picante LP features Nunn, Sheen, Richards Jr and Randy Jones (and was probably used, as a drawing on Guyīs Archive LP). Thanks, Mark Traversino, for additional recording information. Jerome Evans sings lead on another version of Traversinoīs "Charlie Chan" (listen to it - see below!)
|I, Mark Traversino, hereby give
Claus Röhnisch permission to use my song and production of "Charlie Chan"
on his website FREE OF CHARGE. Permission to use the song strictly for people to listen
to, but not purchase.
Info: Jerome Evans/Coasters/
Produced/Written by Mark Traversino.
Claus Röhnisch will remove song from his website if requested by MarkTraversino at any time.
(Monte Carlos) Dar-Kat
Music CD DK-1001
Poison Ivy -
Charlie Brown -
Young Blood -
Hog For You -
Leavin It Up To You -
That Is Rock & Roll -
Along Came Jones -
Let The Good Times Roll -
Proud Mary -
Little Egypt -
Yakety Yak -
(unknown line-up, definately not Gardner, vocals - probably featuring Early Clover & Bob Rivers).
Orchestration incl. horns, and rhythm.
Unknown location, 1996 (issued on Canadian labels - "digitally recorded 1996")
3:09 Run Red Run Prime Cuts CD 23552
2:50 What About Us -
2:47 Little Egypt -
2:56 Poison Ivy -
2:30 Charlie Brown -
2:52 Down In Mexico -
1:51 Yakety Yak -
2:15 Young Blood -
2:53 Searchinī -
2:54 Along Came Jones -
Note: Originally issued as "Greatest Hits" in 1996 on Prime Cuts, reissued on St. Clair-Prime Cuts (Canada) CD SLD 23552 (in 1999), on St. Clair CD FGD 58192 (as "Forever Gold", also in 1999) and on Direct Source CD 75382 (as "Roots of Rock īnī Roll" in 1996). Does anyone know anything about these - I have all the Canadian issues - and I canīt locate the group - is it Cornell Gunterīs Coasters Inc. ? or more probable: the Larry Marshak bogus group? Available at Internet download - Choice Oldie Cuts (RealPlayer MusicStore)
THE COASTERS - The Clown Princes of Rock N Roll (first CD)
or THE BILLY GUY COASTERS (second CD)
(Unknown line-up; in fact Billy Richardsī Coasters). Unknown orchestration.
Some tracks may come from the first Richards session above. On the second CD the credit suggests a Larry Marshak production. First CD titled "Live On Tour" (with an image of Marshakīs group) and the second CD titled "The Billy Guy Coasters - Live On Tour" (with same track order).
Prob. California, ca 1997 (second CD edited 1999).
Ivy - unknown labels
Charlie Brown -
Little Egypt -
Dock of the Bay -
A Capella Sing Along -
Zing (Went The Strings Of My Heart) -
Goodnight Sweetheart -
BILLY RICHARDSī COASTERS
(Billy Richards Jr, Sandy Wyatt, Henry Miller, Larry Tate, and Duane Jackson, vocals);
with Will Porter and The All Stars back-up band. Album titled "Cruisinīwith Billy Richardsī Coasters - Live on Tour II". Produced by Billy Richards Jnr.
Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk, California, July 4, 1999
Watermelon Man (Porter & all stars) - Dar-Kat Music DK-1002
Poison Ivy -
Charlie Brown -
Young Blood -
Hog For You -
60 Minute Man -
Georgia On My Mind -
That Is Rock & Roll -
Along Came Jones -
Dock Of The Bay -
Higher & Higher -
When A Man Loves A Woman -
Yakety Yak -
Note: Thanks, "temp fan", for the information on above. The image at the CD list below shows Richardsī group and volume II.
CORNELL GUNTERīS COASTERS
(The Larry Marshak bogus line-up, vocals; some tracks probably the Billy Richards group, who was managed by Marshak during the early 1990s). Unknown orchestration. Note: Several of the tracks come from the earlier sessions above. CD title probably "Cornell Gunterīs Coasters" (although not confirmed).
Unknown location, ca 2000
Charlie Brown unknown label
Yakety Yak -
Along Came Jones -
Poison Ivy -
Love Potion Number 9 -
Love Potion Number 10 -
Little Egypt -
Zing Went The Strings Of My Heart -
Smokey Joeīs Café -
Peggy Sue -
My Heart Will Go On -
Lucy In The Sky (With Diamonds) -
Sgt. Pepperīs Lonely Hearts Club Band -
THE CORNELL GUNTER COASTERS
(The Larry Marshak bogus line-up, vocals; some tracks probably the Billy Richards group). Includes both live and studio recordings. Unknown orchestration. Note: Several of the tracks come from the earlier sessions above. Album title "The Cornell Gunter Coasters - Gone Fishinī".
Unknown location, ca 2001
Thats Rock-N-Roll unknown label
Twist - Lets Twist Again -
Shake Rattle-N-Roll -
A Capella: Doo Wad Diddy, Dancin In The Streets, Twist And Shout -
Charlotte Brown -
Smokey Joes Café -
Its Allright -
Dock of The Bay -
Medley: Poison Ivy, Young Blood, Searchin, Zing, Charlie Brown, Yakety-Yak -
Love Potion #9 -
Love Potion #10 -
THE MIGHTY CORNELL GUNTERīS
(mos certainly the "original" Cornell Gunter's Coasters, featuring Edwin Cook, Charlie Duncan, and Lionel Pope)
Live at the first Sponsors Concert, Sunset Park, Las Vegas
May 27, 2001
a.o. Young Blood Inkatha CD #10
Autographed CD by Billy Wilson,
Tommy Turner, Randy Jones, and Bobby Sheen
Coasters Off-Shot Story Summary
The Robins - featuring Bobby Nunn - start recording.
Grady Chapman joins the Robins.
Carl Gardner embarks the Robins as lead singer.
Gardner and Nunn leave the Robins to form the Coasters with Billy Guy and Leon Hughes. The Robins continue their career without Gardner and Nunn. Carl is to lead his group for more than 50 years.
Nunn and Hughes are replaced by Will "Dub" Jones and Cornell Gunter. Billy Richards Jr and Bobby Sheen join the Robins.
Gunter leaves the Coasters to join Dinah Washington. Earl Carroll joins the true Coasters.
Bobby Nunn starts a "competing" Coasters group late this year - originally called "The Coasters, Mark II" - featuring Billy Richards Jr, Bobby Sheen and soon also Grady Chapman.
Gunter starts a Las Vegas Coasters group - originally called "The Fabulous Coasters" - featuring remnants from the Penguins.
Will Dub Jones leaves the true Coasters early this year, soon replaced by Ronnie Bright.
Billy Guy leaves the true Coasters, replaced by Jimmy Norman. Randy Jones sings with Cornell Gunterīs Coasters (and also acts with Nunns group).
Leon Hughes acts with a group called "The Original Coasters" in California - featuring Grady Chapman and Jerome Evans and also waxes a single featuring Bobby Nunn. Hughes and Will Jones record as "The World Famous Coasters". Guy and Jones wax "Coasters" recordings in Nashville.
Billy Guy and Will Jones start to occasionally act with "their" Coasters up to 1999.
Bobby Nunn dies, but Billy Richards Jr continues to act with the group - now managed by Larry Marshak. Grady Chapman forms a new fake Coasters group (often called "The Fabulous Coasters") - featuring Randy Jones, Jerome Evans and also Bobby Sheen (none of the three any longer with us). These off-springs will multiply into several new versions of "Coasters".
Early Clover joins a Larry Marshak-managed bogus "Coasters".
Gunter dies, but remnants from his group, featuring Charlie Duncan and Edwin Cook, start "Cornell Gunterīs Coasters, Inc" (a group which later will split to "Edwin Cook and the Cornell Gunter Coasters). During the 1990s several other fake and long-shot Coasters relatives act with different Coasters groups. Sometimes as many as nine different Coasters groups are active.
Billy Richards Jr cancels his contract with Marshak and signs an out-of-court settlement with Gardner - Billy now calling his group "Billy Richards Coasters". Marshak finds new singers to continue his promoting of "The Coasters" - a group now completely fake.
Billy Guy hands over "his rights" to Marshak, who now uses the name "Billy Guyīs Coasters" for the Marshak group.
Guy settles with Gardner and retires. Gunterīs sister Shirley hands over the "rights" of "Cornell Gunters Coasters" to the Marshak fake group (which actually will multiply itself in different versions throughout the States and Canada).
Gardners son Carl, Jr (who had joined his father in 1998) starts a "Coasters Review" group in California. Grady Chapman now reforms his "Coasters" into a new Robins group.
Carl Gardner, Jr returns to his father's true Coasters group in November.
Marshaks Coasters still act as Cornell Gunter's Coasters, but Charlie Duncan now introduces his The Original "Cornell Gunters" Coasters.
|The following albums do not
include Carl Gardnerīs Coasters, but contain recordings done by former members of the
original and classic Coasters or by new-formed faked groups
Albums listed in order of original year of issue.
1971 HUNGRY Joy (E) LP 189
1973 IT AINīT SANITARY Trip TLP-8028
1973 THE COASTERS Stateside (G) IGS LP 40028
1975 GREAT RHYTHM & BLUES OLDIES
Stateside (J) EMI LP 40028
1980 BREAKING OUT Escobar LP 3311
1980 CALL ON ME - Koala (Jpn)
1985 THE COASTERS Archives LP A613
1986 THE COASTERS "&" Bellaphon (G) LP 15238
2000 ROCKINī MY SOUL Sterling CD 24318
In 1962 Billy Guy made 16 recordings for ABC and Lloyd Priceīs Double L. and produced by Robert Bateman. Here are the issues from that session.
The original issues contain 12 Billy Guy recordings for ABC and Lloyd Priceīs label Double-L in 1963. Trip LP (with an image of the true Coasters of 1969) is the American version of the original Joy LP 189. LP IGS 40028 has four extra tracks from Guyīs session. Japanese Stateside contains 12 tracks (not 16 as the German compilation). "The Prophet" titled "Women" on Double-L single, issued as by Billy Guy. The Archives and Bellaphon LPs contain tracks from Joy/Trip /Stateside. Archives LP features ten tracks and the cover shows a drawing from a photo, who actually are Bobby Nunnīs Coasters Mark II. The Koala issue has only nine tracks. The Sterling CD (with an image of the 1980 Carl Gardner Coasters) has the following tracks: Charlie Brown, Searchinī, It Donīt Take Much, Prison Break, Rockinī My Soul, Little Black Book, Young Blood, Yakety Yak, Humdinger, Whip it On Me (three of the familiar hit titles are the original Atco recordings and "CB" and "LE" are from Gardnerīs 1973 Trip re-recordings). There is no CD covering all 16 tracks from the 1962 Guy session, although several tracks appear on different CDs featuring the Gardner Coasters 10 Trip recordings.
Note: See also - 1994 LEGENDS Wisepack (E) LECD 076 below (which contains 8 Guy tracks plus several Atco cuts).
JONES & LEON HUGHES
1976 THE WORLD FAMOUS COASTERS
American International Artists AIA-333
also on Garner Artist Production GAP 106 and DJM (E) LP 22053
1992 JUST COASTINī C-Five (E) C5CD 579
(also Dutch 319428)
These contain the recordings from "World Famous" Coasters around 1976.
Will Jones and his first non-original Coasters group, also featuring Leon Hughes, with some sparkful recordings, alll done with a great approach of humor. "I Got To Boogie" and the Jones- led "If I Had A Hammer" plus six remakes of old Coasters hits and a couple of extra novelties. The six hit revivals included do not live up to the original Coastersī exciting standards! It is uncertain if AIA or GAP is the original issue.
||BILLY GUY & WILL
1978 GREATEST HITS Gusto-Power Pak LP PO 310
1986 16 GREATEST HITS DeLuxe (Canada) CD 1006
1987 GREATEST HITS Highland/Hollywood HCD-282
1988 GREATEST HITS Power Pair CD 2-1306
1991 GREATEST HITS Onyx Point (Europe) CD 264136
1999 BEST OF THE BEST King/Federal FED-CD-6543 (US)
In 1977 Billy Guy and Will Jones recorded in Nashville. Here are the issues from that session.
Listen to 30sec clips of all the tracks of the Hollywood CD at Barnes & Noble (same tracks as on original vinyl).
Contains Billy Guy recordings in Nashville for King/Stardayīs Gusto label in 1977 - also featuring bass singer Will "Dub" Jones. The seven hit revivals do not live up to the original Coasterīs high standards. The Gusto LP also includes "Love Potion #9" and "D.W. Washburmn" from the Coastersī King LP. DeLuxe CD has the eight tracks from Gusto plus eight tracks from the true Coastersī King album "On Broadway" (excluding "Down Home Girl", "Talkinī ī Bout A Woman". "Everybodyīs Woman" and "Mustang sally"). Track order on DeLuxe: D.W. Washburn, On Broadway, Mohaired Sam, The In Crowd, Down At Pappa Joeīs, Love Potion #9, YB, One Foot Dragginī, PI, LE, Se, YY, CB, ACJ, Cool Jerk, Soul Pad. The Power Pair issue has a total of 16 tracks (which ones is not confirmed). The Highland/Hollywood CD has the following track order: Searchinī, Love Potion No.9, Little Egypt, Young Blood, Along Came Jones, Charlie Brown, Yakety Yak, Poison Ivy, One Foot Dragginī and D.W. Washburn (note: that CD sometimes also listed as Onyx CD).
The ten tracks on the Onyx-Point CD, "GREATEST HITS", are the seven Guy-rerecordings plus three true King Coasters tracks in the following track order: YY, CB, ACJ, Love Potion Number 9, On Broadway, Se, PI, YB, LE, and Down At Papa Joeīs. The Federal (King) issue, "BEST OF THE BEST" has the seven Guy-rerecordings, "One Foot" plus two from King/Date by the original Coasters - track order: YY, CB, Se, PI,YB, ACJ, LE, Love Potion #9, One Foot Dragginīand D.W. Washburn. That CD (King Records, 1999 distrib by Highland Music) has a nice little back-cover presentation by Chuck Young telling us that Guy and Jones are on these late 1970s recordings.
The seven re-recordings are also issued on Highland/DeLuxe LP DLX-7786 and CD DCD-7786 together with all tracks on the Coastersī"On Broadway" album as "The Coasters - 20 Greatest Hits" in 1987; album cover similar to the Federal issue (see Coasters Albums).
1986 LETīS GO TO THE DANCE Harmony (H) LP LS-13
A bootleg Dutch LP issued as by the Coasters on sleeve (The Robins on label), featuring "Three Cool Cats" and "Money Honey" plus Robinsī 1953 recordings for Crown and RCA and some Spark recordings. Robinsī tracks on WINS LP 1010 (issued 1979) are ī50s recordings hosted by Alan Freed (after the leave of Nunn and Gardner).
Wisepack (E) LECD 076
This CD contains eight Billy Guy tracks from Double-L, plus "One Foot Dragginī" from Gusto, "DW Washburn" and "Love Potion #9" from Date/King, the live "Little Egypt" with Gardnerīs Coasters of the ī80s, plus 10 bootleg Atco hits (Searchinī, Charlie Brown, Down In Mexico, Yakety Yak, Run Red Run, Poison Ivy, Young Blood, Along Came Jones, The Idol With The Golden Head, Iīm A Hog For You).
There is an Internet download album from HHO Licensing titled "Poison Ivy" which features 7 original Atco tracks, the live "Little Egypt", the Date/Columbia recording of "Love Potion No. 9" and 7 Guy-tracks from Double-L. (Track-listing and audio-clips)
||BOGUS COASTERS (The
Larry Marshak bogus line-up prob. featuring Early Clover)
1996 GREATEST HITS Prime Cuts (Canada) CD 2355
reissued in 1999 on St. Clair-Prime Cuts SLD 23552
1997 ROOTS OF ROCK īnī ROLL Direct Source (Canada) CD RR 75382
1999 FOREVER GOLD St. Clair (Canada) CD FGD 58192
2005 THE COASTERS Platinum Disc CD 23172
2007 YAKETY YAK - Cleopatra / The Orchard download
2007 THE HITS OF THE COASTERS - mp3 download
All these CDs contain the same ten fake/bogus Coasters recordings, "digitally recorded in 1996".
The Platinum Disc has copyright 2005 on cover and 2001 on disc - and has the folloing informaiton:
"All selections are new studio recordings performed by the original artists or one or more members of the original group". That information is bogus.
The recordings sound like they really are from the 1990s. Noone of the original Coasters is present though. Gardner and Guy are definately not here! It most probable is the Larry Marshak-managed group featuring Early Clover a.o. These revivals do not live up to the original Coasters standards.
Note: All covers show Carl Gardnerīs Coasters, but the recordings do not feature Gardner. The reissue of Prime Cuts has a slightly diff cover layout than the original of 1996 (Prime Cuts logo not there and slightly diff heading). Prime Cuts and St. Clair have the track order shown left and the Canadian Direct Source compilation has the track order shown second left with the Platinum Disc track order right. Find audio clips of all the tracks at CD-Universe! Available at Internet download - Choice Oldie Cuts (RealPlayer MusicStore); also on Cleopatra as "Yakety Yak" (with running order as shown left) and as "The Hits of The Coasters".
1998 LEON HUGHES & "COASTERS"
Oldie CD (unkn #)
Contains eight Leon Hughes tracks from circa 1992 (originally issued on a VHS Video), featuring "Leon Hughes - one of the first original Coasters". Itīs a "live"-album recorded in or around Los Angeles with Leon plus three younger members (see fake Coasters discography). Available from oldie.com.
also on mp3 download
1995 BEST OF THE COASTERS - LIVE ON TOUR
1999 CRUISINī WITH BILLY RICHARDSī COASTERS
- LIVE ON TOUR II
Dar-Kat Music CDs DK-1001 and DK -1002
Billy Richardsī (West Coast) Coasters made two live CDs during the 1990s. Havenīt heard them, but tracks are listed at the discography above. The second CD was reissued in 2000 as by "The Billy Guy Coasters" - see below!
|THE BILLY GUY COASTERS
originally issued as
The Coasters - The Clown Princes of Rock N Roll
1997 LIVE ON TOUR "The Clown Princes of Rock N Roll"
2000 LIVE ON TOUR "The Comedy Kings of Rock N Roll"
Unknown labels (CD)
First CD issued as "The Coasters" and the second as by The Billy Guy Coasters (rare bootleg), but in fact tracks from the Billy Richards group. Includes the twelve tracks listed in the discography above. Note: Some tracks may be from 1994-95
2000 CORNELL GUNTERīS COASTERS
unkn. CD title and unk. label
Contains the following tracks: Charlie Brown, Yakety Yak, Along Came Jones, Poison Ivy, Searchinī, Love Potion Number 9, Love Potion Number 10, Little Egypt, Zing Went The Strings Of My Heart, Smokey Joeīs Café, Peggy Sue, My Heart Will Go On, Lucy In The Sky (With Diamonds), Sgt. Pepperīs Lonely Hearts Club Band. Itīs a CD recorded by Larry Marshakīs bogus Coasters group, sometimes simply promoted as "The Coasters", but lately as "Cornell Gunterīs Coasters" - the bogus group Marshak has managed starting with Billy Richardsī group, later the Billy Guy semi-coached group and nowadays the group "coached by Shirley Gunter" (not to be mixed-up with the trio touring as Cornell Gunterīs Coasters Inc.).
|THE MIGHTY CORNELL
2001 LIVE AT SUNSET PARK
Inkatha CD # 10
Live recordings featuring the Cook/Duncan/Pope group Tracks unknown, but they were recorded live at the first Sponsors Concert on May 27, 2001. One track though seems to be "Young Blood".
|THE CORNELL GUNTER
2002 GONE FISHINī
unkn. CD title and unk. label (and #).
Contains the tracks listed in the session discography above as recorded circa 2001 (Thats Rock-N-Roll, Twist - Lets Twist Again, Shake Rattle And Roll a.o.) although several tracks are from the previously issued bogus Marshak-managed CDs from the late 1990s and the new millennium.
THE ORIGINAL CORNELL GUNTERS
Billy Richardsī Coasters and right: Cornell Gunterīīs Coasters, Inc.
Charlie Brown and his "Coasters Show".
( Charlie Brownīs Coasters Tribute; also this)
Two photos of a fake Coastersī group (acting since the ī80s), managed by Larry Marshak. Billy Guy semi-coached them in 1998-99; and from 2000 they operate as Cornell Gunterīs Coasters (manager Marshak uses different singers in his "Coasters" group, and also promotes "Drifters" and "Platters").
Lately evidance has come up that Early Clover is with the fake Coasters again.
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