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Friday, 5 May 2006
Burns: Illegal immigrants shouldn't be counted in Census
Last night the creator of the Coalition Against Illegal Immigration emailed a request for posts on the topic of the above article.

I have related some of this issue arising from the fact that Congressional Apportionment, is at the present time, decided not by the enumeration of Citizens in the Census but by counting ALL residents, Citizen, Resident LEGAL Aliens and ILLEGAL Aliens, in my previous posts.

Should Illegal Aliens Determine the Presidency of the United States?

The Curious Case
of Congressional Apportionment


When They Stole
the House of Representatives
from the Citizens of America

My good friend Debbie Hamilton at Right Truth echos my sentiments in

It's not about immigration, it's about power

It is a topic very much on my mind, I am pleased that a member of Congress has at last taken a stand on it.

Independent Record - Montana Sen. Conrad Burns
has proposed excluding illegal immigrants from the congressional apportionment process, a move that could shift House seats from growing border states to smaller states with lower immigrant populations.

Actually this should not come as any surprise without the Non-Citizen count in the Census, Montana would have two seats in the House of Representatives instead of its present one seat.

I defy anyone to find logic that justifies a State being denied the representatives in Congress that its population of Citizens entitles it by a count of Alien residents. Those States that from this travesty of Justice could try, but their words would ring hollow.

Burns, R-Mont., introduced legislation Tuesday that would require the Secretary of Commerce, who oversees the Census Bureau, to adjust the population numbers used to apportion congressional seats to exclude illegal immigrants.

The Census Bureau does not currently distinguish illegal immigrants in its population estimates gathered every 10 years.

Montana has one House seat for about 920,000 people, while the average member represents about 650,000. Burns says that the nation's estimated 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants are distorting Montana's congressional representation.

"If these trends continue, we will be looking at upwards of 15 million illegal aliens in the United States for the 2010 census, maybe more," Burns said Tuesday. "And the result will be more seats lost in states that have actually increased in population of law-abiding U.S. citizens."

15 million Illegal Aliens would equate to about 23 seats in the House. Where would they go? Well just look at these maps of the last two National Elections compared with the distribution of Non-Citizens, it will be apparent

It is said a Picture is worth a thousand words so let me illustrate the issue pictorially.

Here is an active gif showing the political alignment of the last two Presidential Elections

Here is map of the Distribution of Non Citizen over the United States.

Do you have the Picture now?

To continue

Steven Camarota, research director at the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, says the proposal has good intentions but could be difficult to implement.

The Census Bureau could ask immigrants if they are in the United States illegally, he said, but that would require changing census forms and trusting people to answer the question honestly.

Part of me likes this guys logic, After all people also lie on their Tax forms so he has created a compelling reason to disband the IRS and discontinue Personal Income Tax!

Not really the bovine byproduct this man would be best used plowed into the ground to inspire turnips than as a reasoned statement of Government Policy.

If an Alien is in this country they would have a passport? Passports have numbers on them, when you fill out an entry ticket you write that down, If you have a Visa or a Greencard they also have identifiers?

If the numbers don't match the person doesn't count. It is that simple AND by devising away to set aside even LEGAL Aliens we would be able to limit Congressional Apportionment to the CITIZEN Count, as it should be.

"The bottom line is that you are opened up to all kinds of legal and practical challenges," he said. "The way to fix it is to have a whole lot fewer illegals."

A 2003 report written by Camarota's group calculated that the presence of illegal immigrants cost Montana a seat it would have otherwise gained.

"Thankfully, my state of Montana cannot lose any more seats in the House of Representatives," Burns said. "We are down to our last one. Other states, however, will not be so fortunate."

Since when have AMERICANS shirked challenges? Also, Laws are what we pay Congress to WRITE

I for one would like to start getting my moneys worth. I for one demand that Congress do its Job on this issue.

Now when Brian sent out his Call to Action Email, Article Needs writing, I had just started work and I confess I did stop at a restaurant to eat afterwords.

So I would expect there have been a few other posts on this issue. Let me try to find Links to them now.,
Illegal immigrants shouldn't be counted in Census from DeMediacratic Nation
Hat tip to The Uncooperative Blogger

What an idea.....

If these trends continue, we will be looking at upwards of 15 million illegal aliens in the United States for the 2010 census, maybe more. And the result will be more seats lost in states that have actually increased in population of law-abiding U.S. citizens. - Montana Senator Conrad Burns

Illegal immigrants shouldn't be counted in Census from The Violence Worker

Now here is a proposal that makes sense. A Montana Senator is proposing we not count illegal aliens invaders during the 10 year census for Congressional apportionment.

I?m all for this. I think it is patently unfair to non-border states

**This was a production of The Coalition Against Illegal Immigration (CAII). If you would like to participate, please go to the above link to learn more. Afterwards, email the coalition and let me know at what level you would like to participate.


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