思考通病之1,2 Common fault of thinking 1 & 2
Topic: 3我見 My View

之前的數篇討論,都好像只提及思考通病之3,但是沒有提及思考通病之1,2,不是說1,2是最明顯,很常犯的嗎?怎麼好像比3更少犯錯呢?

其實1,2的例子太多,要講可以講多好多篇幅,但3是比較大影響,對結果特別重要,所以只提到3的情況,而沒有提及1,2而已!

就好像"兒童應該有選擇宗教的自由",別人對你講,你就把這句話當成問題,想這句話是否正確,不就犯了思考通病1了嗎?這句話其實是別人的結論,應該想這句話背後原來的問題是什麼,然後思考"那個問題"呀,問題應該是"何謂兒童的宗教自由"呀,對嗎?

又例如別人對你講"每個人都應該愛自己的種族,愛自己的國家",你又去想應不應該愛自己的種族,愛自己的國家,那你就犯了思考通病2啦!問題應該是"什麼是種族,什麼是國家"呀!但你連什麼是種族,國家都不知道,就去想應否愛種族,國家,那不就跟了別人的錯誤方向去思考,完全偏離了原本的問題了嗎?

如果你聽經濟學權威講"共產主義","資本主義"呀,你又去想這些理論是否正確,那你就同時犯了思考通病1,2啦!就算不理用錢對不對,起碼問題應該是"應該怎樣用錢來運作"呀?"共產主義","資本主義"不單不是問題本身,還引導人向了某兩個特定方向去思考'如何用錢'呢!何況用錢來運作絕對是錯的啦!

太多太多例子啦,實在好容易犯了這些通病而不自知.所以平時思考時要注意注意,不要因為我很少提及1,2,只提及3,而忽略了啊!

還有別人說你錯啦,應該這樣這樣想啦的,就如剛剛說的幾個例子那樣,去想我所講的,那你就大錯特錯啦!引至思考錯誤的,最重要的不是[思考的內容],而是[思考的方法].如果思考的方法不正確,思考的內容跟本不會有意思.我所講的三個思考通病,其實都是因為一般人只分析[思考的內容],而沒有分析[思考的方法]而產生的!

所以如果要知道自己的對錯,記得一定要留意[思考的方法],要正確的思考,記得一定要"先確定問題",否則,思考什麼都無用啦! *e*

 For the several articles discussed, seems only mention about the thrid common fault of thinking, but not mentioning the first two. Isn't it say that 1 & 2 is the most obvious, is often guilty of it? Why its fault seems less than 3?

In fact, too many examples for 1 and 2, you can talk about a lot more space, but 3 is relatively large impact on the results of particular importance, therefor only 3 is mentioned, but no mention of 1 & 2 only!

Like "Children should have the freedom of religious choice," others tell you, you put this sentence as a problem, think this sentence is it correct, do not thinking it made a common fault 1? This sentence is actually someone else's conclusion, it should be think the original question behind this statement is, and then thinking "that problem". The question should be "What is the child's religious freedom?", right?

Another example is someone to tell you, "everyone should love their own race, love their country," they think should or should not you love your race, love their country, then you are guilty of thinking common fault 2! Problem should be "what is race, what is country?"! But you even do not know what are race and countries,  and start think about should everyone love race, love country. Isn't it think with someone else's wrong direction, a departure from the original problem?

If you listen to economics authority about "communism", "capitalism", and think about these theories, then you are also guilty of thinking common fault, both 1 and 2! Even ignore the money rightness, at least, the problem should be "how to use money to operate?". "Communism", "capitalism" is not the problem itself, but also guide people to two certain specific directions to think about 'how to use the money'! not to mention money to operate with is absolutely wrong!

Too many examples, it is made​with great easy without being aware of these common fault. So pay more attention when think. Not because I rarely mention 1 & 2, only mention 3, and ignoring them!

There are others say that you're wrong, should think this way, just as few examples as just said, think about what I say, you're big big wrong! Lead to wrong thinking, the most important is not [thinking content], but [way of thinking]. If the method is not correct, thinking content is meaningless. And  the three common fault I talking about, in fact, are generated because most people only analysis [thinking content], but no analysis of the [way of thinking]!

So if you want to know you are right or wrong, remember to pay attention to [thinking method]. To correct thinking, remember to "first determine the problem", otherwise, think about anything are useless! *e*

小小結 Small Summary
Topic: 3我見 My View

從之前的這些實例的討論,可以得到一些思考時的小提示:

1.古代思想好有可能有錯.
傳統的,代代相傳的,九成人認為對的,都有可能會錯,不是一定,但很有可能.所以千萬不可用"幾千年來都是這樣想"的想法,而犯了"根據沒有先行肯定對錯的論點作為思考的基礎."這個思考通病.

人類的進步就是不斷發現古代人的錯誤,然後改過,改進,得出更好的方法,想法,不是嗎?

2.如果思考3秒就得,就一早解決晒所有問題啦.
很多人,大慨9成99999.99的人都會很快便思考完一個問題,得出結論.但如果思考真的這麼容易,這個世界便一早解決晒所有問題啦,又怎會有幾千年都未解決的所謂觀點與角度的問題?似是而非的論點,又怎會輕易擾亂人心?

但其實只要懂得用正確的思考方法,想多十數分鐘,就已經可以想通,就好似上面討論的種族國家主義一樣.這其實是受IQ這東西所影響,令人認為想得快就是好,就是聰明.無錯我思考是慢,但如你思考100樣東西都錯,我用同樣時間只思考到1樣東西,但是對,那是你聰明還是我聰明?1比0是無限大啊!

所以我認為應該新增一個CQ(Correctness Quotient),這個CQ比IQ重要得多啦,思考,最重要,係[對],唔係[快]!

希望大家以後思考時,可以用多少少時間,起碼不要只用幾分鐘,幾十秒,甚至幾秒,要真正為解決問題而討論,不要為拗贏而拗.今日想不到,明白再想,這星期想不到,下星期再想,慢慢想,慢慢練,思考跟本就很簡單,直接,只要慢慢練,不心急,每個人都一定做得到.不要想不到就求奇算數,當別人的結論是自己的結論,是旦揀一個聽落好似對的想法就當是正確.記住:欲速則不達.我出左名親朋戚友都知道我蠢鈍,我都做得到,還有誰做不到呢? @^@

From the previous discussion of these real examples, you can get some tips when thinking about:

1. The ancient idea may well be wrong.
Tradition, from generation to generation, and 90% think that's right, are likely to be wrong, not necessarily, but likely. So do not use "a few thousand years are like this" idea, and made "Using not pre confirmed argument as the basis of thinking." this common fault of thinking.

The progress of humanity is to discover the ancient human error, and then correct, to improve, come to a better way, or thought, is not it?

2. If just need to think about three seconds, then all the problems are solved long ago.
Many people, around 99.999999% people will soon complete thinking a question, and draw conclusions. But if think really that easy, then all the problems are solved long ago in this world, how can there be the so-called problem of point of view for thousands of years? Specious argument, why would easily disturb people?

In fact, anyone who knows the correct way of thinking, would think ten more minutes, you already figured out, it is like ethnic nationalism discussed above, as this is influenced by IQ this thing, people that think faster is better is smart. Although I think is slow, but if you are thinking about 100 things wrong, I only think about the same time to one kind of thing, but it was correct, you or me smart? 1 to 0 is the infinite ah!

So I think we should add a CQ (Correctness Quotient), the CQ is much more important than IQ, thinking, most important, is [correct], not [fast]!

Hope when you think in the future, you can use little more time, at least not with only a few minutes, tens of seconds, and even a few seconds, to truly discusse for solving problems , not to win debate. Today can't think the answer, think tomorrow.  This week can't think the answer, think next week. Think about it slowly, train slowly, thinking is actually very simple and direct, as long as train slowly, do not hurry, everyone can do it. Do noy use others conclusion as yours when you can't think the answer, and choose and idea that sounds right as correct. Remember: haste makes waste. My friends and relatives are aware of my stupid, I can do it, who else can not do it? @^@

總結 Summary
Topic: 3我見 My View

怎麼樣?大家有沒有得到自己的結論,或者發現自己的錯誤?是否改得到?
又有沒有發現原來我都有錯?如有,請話我知,謝謝.

無論怎樣,請記住我的<提示>: 我講的都是錯的,不要信我,信自己的思考,分析.不要思考我的意見,而是思考問題本身.

<我見>到此已經完成,以後將會從<實例>開始,將<我見>的思考方法應用在各方面的問題,嘗試將日常的錯誤糾正.

看我如何將爭論數千年的問題,用三兩下手勢解決吧! *.*

How? Did you got their own conclusions, or find their own mistakes? Able to correct?
Or found out that I have wrong? If yes, please, let me know, thank you.

No matter what, remember my <Hint>: All I said is wrong, do not believe me, believeyour own thinking and analysis. Do not think my views, but thought the question itself.

<My View> this has been completed, will start from <Live eg> after , use <My View> the way of thinking applied to all aspects of the problem, try to correct the daily error.

See how I solve problems, which debated for thousands of years, like simple problem! *.*

分析自己對錯 Analysis of their own right or wrong
Topic: 3我見 My View

有了正確的思考方法,又知道了常犯的思考通病,那就要運用來分析自己的對錯.

當思考完一個問題後應該想想:
1. 自己是否用正確的方法來思考?
2. 有沒有犯了3個思考通病?
3. 如果發覺有以上錯誤,就要再重新思考過.
4. 重新思考之後,就再分析1及2,直至沒有再錯為止.
5. 然後,再張自己的結論,跟別人的結論比較,看是否一樣.
6. 如果不同,就要再用1及2分析,看到底自己及別人有沒有犯1或2的錯誤.
7. 最後,就可以知道,到底是自己對還是別人對,與及誰錯在那裏.

好像很浪費時間吧!但不這樣,又如何真正解決問題呢? >/<

With the correct way of thinking, and they know a common fault of thinking, it should use to analyze their own right or wrong.

When thinking about a problem should think about After:
1. If they are the right way to think about?
2. Have committed three thinking common fault?
3. If it is found the above error, we must re-thought about.
4. After re-consideration, then re-analysis 1 and 2 until no further wrong so far.
5. Then, let their own conclusions, compared with the conclusions of others, to see if the same.
6. If not, then 1 and 2 will analyze to see in the end there themselves or others committed 1 or 2 errors.
7 Finally, you know, in the end who correct and who is wrong at which part.

Seems to be a waste of time! But did not, and how to really solve the problem? >/< 

錯誤思考方法 Wrong way of thinking
Topic: 3我見 My View

錯的方法當然數之不盡,但一般人通常都會犯上三種通病,而不自知.所以大部分人都會堅持自己是對,而與人爭論不休,到最後都無結論,變成所謂的"觀點與角度"的情況.

思考通病:
1. 思考別人的說話當作思考問題本身.(別人的說話跟本不是原本的問題,這亦是最明顯的通病.)
2. 跟隨別人的錯誤方向去思考.(跟著別人的思考方向,就會偏離原本的問題,這亦是很常犯的通病.)
3. 根據沒有先行肯定對錯的論點作為思考的基礎.(這是最不明顯的通病,但亦對結果的影響最重要.)

又是很簡單吧!那你自己又有沒有犯上呢? @.@

Wrong of course, countless ways, but most people usually make the mistake of three kinds of fault, without knowing it, so most people will insist that he is right, while debating with people, have no conclusion to the last, into the so-called "point of view and point of view," situation.

Common fault of thinking:
1. Thinking about someone else's words as the problem itself. (Someone else's words is not the original problem, which is also the most obvious common fault.)
2. Follow someone else's wrong direction to think. (Follow the direction of other people's thinking, it will depart from the original problem, which is very often make a common fault.)
3. Using not pre confirmed argument as the basis of thinking. (This is the least obvious common fault, but also affect the results of the most important.)

Is easy! Have you made these fault?  @.@

思考方法 Way of Thinking
Topic: 3我見 My View

何謂"正確"?何謂"錯誤"?
就我自己思考所得,只有一種正確方法,另外有三種通病.當然可能還有,如果各位有其他,請留言讓大家參詳.

正確思考方法:
非常簡單,就是"先確定問題,直接思考問題本身,逐步追尋問題的根源,找出解決問題根源的方法,再反方向逐步推論,看是否能解決原本的問題."

確定問題 ---> 追尋問題根源 ---> 問題根源
   ^                                          |
   |                                           |
   |                                           V
解決原本問題 <--- 逐步推論 <--- 解決方法

很簡單吧!好像人人都知,但又是否真的做得到?
三種思考通病呢?再想想啦! -;-

What is the "right"? what is "wrong "?
In my own thinking, with only a right way, there are three other common fault. Of course there may be, if you have other, please leave a message for our reference.

The correct way of thinking:
Very simple, it is "first to identify question, directly think the question, step by step search for the root of the problem, identify the root of the problem and its solution, and then gradually infer the opposite direction to see if can solve the original question. "

identify question ---> search root of problem ---> root of problem
          ^                                                                    |
          |                                                                     |
          |                                                                     V
solve the original question <--- gradually infer <--- solution

Very simple! Like everyone to know, but it really can do?
Three common faults of thinking? Think it! -;-

原因 Reason
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大家想到什麼?有自己的答案嗎?
處理事情或問題,做錯了,為什麼會錯了?當然是想法錯了.何解想法會錯?是思考的問題,用了錯誤的思考方法,結果得出錯誤結論,跟據錯誤結論而行,當然會做錯.所以錯誤的起因,就是用了錯誤的思考方法而成.那麼何謂"正確的思考方法"?怎樣才知道自己用了錯誤的思考方法呢?請大家再試試思考,看看又有什麼結論? =.=

You think? has its own answer?
Deal with things or problems, wrong, wrong, why? of course, the idea was wrong. How come the wrong ideas? The problem is thought, thinking with the wrong method, the wrong conclusion, action according to wrong conclusions, of course, wrong. Therefore, the cause of the error, is to use the wrong way of thinking. Then, what is the "right way of thinking? " How do I know their thinking with the wrong approach? Please try again thinking, see what conclusion? =.=

開始 Start
Topic: 3我見 My View
錯誤從何而起?請大家細心,慢慢思考,不要心急,先得出自己的結論,再看下去,否則,便有可能被我影響,得到相似的結論,而不能真正獨立思考.
一天,兩天,一星期,都不是問題.若真的想不到,無問題,我明白原因,下文將有章節提及,請繼續看,但切不可只想幾分鐘,幾十秒,甚至幾秒,好嗎? >=<

Error come from? please carefully, slowly thinking, do not hurry, the first draw your own conclusions, then read on, otherwise, there may be me, to get similar results, but can not really think independently.
One day, two days, a week, not a problem. If that can not think, no problem, I understand the reasons mentioned below, there will be chapters, please continue to read, but do not just think a few minutes, tens of seconds, and even a few seconds , right? >=<