RETURN TO
MAIN PAGE


http://www.wikio.com



Search Engine Optimization and SEO Tools Opposing Views

Samuel Adams

American Patriot & Politician

1722 - 1803

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Blog Tools
Edit your Blog
Build a Blog
RSS Feed
View Profile
« May 2015 »
S M T W T F S
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31
Entries by Topic
All topics  «
Iraq War
>
You are not logged in. Log in

Hot Issues From Linn County Iowa
Wednesday, 27 May 2015
Remedial Reading Lessons For Executives Vol I


 

 
I don't know if it is  the falling  levels of public literacy
 
Or perhaps simple cognitive blockage
 
The syndrone where one sees what one wants to 
 
But SOMETHING is being lost
 
Between what is written
 
And what our Ececutive Board
 
And their Helpers see. 
 
I was out of town for the Last LCRCC Meeting
 
So I have about a 2 hour audio record to go through
 
I will comment on what I find in a series of posts
 
I feel there will be to much material to put into a single one,.
 
We will start with a statement by the Chair
 
Which Claims that upon the Creation of a New Executive Board that ALL
 
Motions and Decisions made by a previous LCRCC are voided,
 
That Claim has been made before
 
It was one of the reasons claimed for the need for a Rush To Approve the Night of the St Patrick's Day Masacre
 
It remains now  as it was then
 
NOT TRUE 
 
A claim was made that this is part of Robert's Rules of Order and that is also
 
 
NOT TRUE  
 
What IS true is that on 28 January 2015 - 08:37 AM
 
someone calling themselves  jknox65 (which just happens
 
to be the Facebook Username
 
of our Webmaster James Knox)
 
Asked THIS Question on the Officlal Robert's Rules of Order Forum
 
 

I was wondering if motions that had

 

passed

 

during a previous Executive boards rein,

 

do

 

these carry over to the new presiding

 

officers? Do motions bind the hands

 

of a new body after an election? I would

 

thing by-law changes would but I am

 

uncertain about motions?

 

 

 

 

 

And was Told 
 
That unless the Body voted to change a previous decision or there was an expiration date in the original motion that YES they stay in effect PERIOD 
 
I wrote about this previously in
 
 

The Great Motion Expiration Swindle

 

 

 
 
 You may go see for your self at the RONR Website  HERE
 
Or you can look at a copy and paste of it lifted and placed in this post.
 
 

Photo

When do passed Motions expire?

Motions Elections 

3 replies to this topic

#1 jknox65

  • Members
  • 1 posts

Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:37 AM

I was wondering if motions that had passed during a previous Executive boards rein, do these carry over to the new presiding officers? Do motions bind the hands of a new body after an election? I would thing by-law changes would but I am uncertain about motions?

 

Can someone advise and reference where it may or may not support the expunging of previous sessions passed motions?


#2 Hieu H Huynh

  • Members
  • 724 posts
  • LocationSoutheast Florida

Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:45 AM

"Unless an adopted main motion specifies a time for the termination of its effect, it continues in force until it is rescinded." (RONR 11th ed., p. 111, ** footnote)


#3 Edgar Guest

  • Members
  • 3,462 posts
  • LocationUlster County, NY

Posted 28 January 2015 - 08:57 AM

jknox65, on 28 Jan 2015 - 08:37 AM, said:

Do motions bind the hands of a new body after an election?

 

No. The board is free to rescind (or otherwise amend) motions previously adopted by the board (assuming, of course, that the actions authorized by the motions have not been completed). There is no "expunging".

 

It's best not to think of "the old board" and "the new board". It's just "the board" (with occasional changes in membership).


Everything I know about RONR I learned from Mr. Mountcastle. And everything he knows about RONR he learned from this forum.

#4 Gary Novosielski

    Wonk

  • Members
  • 7,457 posts
  • LocationNew Jersey

Posted 28 January 2015 - 01:51 PM

No, they don't bind the hands of a future body any more than they bind the hands of the current body.


-- 

=GPN

 

Unless otherwise indicated, responses are based upon the current edition of RONR as of the date of posting. The rules in your bylaws supersede those in RONR.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." -Margaret Mead

For those who might snidely quip that this is just someone's interpretation?
 
Might I point out that there is a quote AND source from Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised 11th edition
 
 
"Unless an adopted main motion specifies a time for
 
the termination of its effect, it continues in force until
 
it is rescinded." (RONR 11th ed., p. 111, ** footnote) 
 
 

Now it IS possible that Mr Knox made this inquiry and never told the Executive Board the result.

They might actually believe what they are saying

But it is EQUALY True that what they are saying is

NOT True,

 A very interesting quesiton would be who if anyone TOLD them this preposterous pile of bunk that they keep using to justify ILLEGAL Actions. 

 

PS got another letter while I was away from my anonymous adimirer, We will look at their last attempts at correspondence hilarity after we deal wiith a few other issues

Such as  Breaches of the County Constitution and ByLaws by the current Exective Board and Parliamentarian. 


Posted by ky/kentuckydan at 2:29 AM CDT
Updated: Wednesday, 27 May 2015 2:59 AM CDT
Post Comment | View Comments (2) | Permalink | Share This Post

Wednesday, 27 May 2015 - 8:08 AM CDT

Name: "Marvin Spragg"

If the chairs statement is true, then by what authority are they operating the county office and their website????????

Thursday, 28 May 2015 - 6:13 PM CDT

Name: ky/kentuckydan
Home Page: https://www.angelfire.com/ky/kentuckydan

The authority used might best be described as Fiat Golding

That and the regretable fact that too many actual believe her when she utters flagrant falsehoods,.

Or maybe I should not word it that way it might be construed as a breach of the new Decorum Rules

 Let us just say that at times our Chair gets confused and cannot differentiate the True from the False

 

Dan Kauffman 

View Latest Entries