Site hosted by Build your free website today!






Tell A Friend
About This Website



























By: Obadyah Ysrayl


By: Jacob Israel










             Message To 
     None Messianic Israelites
By Josiah (Zebulon) Israel
Print This Page

Sunday June 28, 2004 a dialogue was held between Messianic Hebrews and the Non-Messianic Hebrews from "the Law Keeper's". Here's a "brief" breakdown of the message that Yah allowed me to deliver. The dialogue was a result of a comment I posted on the LawKeepers message board. 

Which stated that: "had it not been for the work that Yahshua came to do then NONE of us now would have no knowledge of our heritage nor of Yah".

Because this comment was met with criticism on the board, we set up a dialogue which some called a debate. For me, it was doing what Yah called me   to do and expound Yahshua to our kinsmen according to the flesh that reject him. Here's a "brief" breakdown of the message that Yah allowed me to deliver.

I opened up with Deuteronomy 18:15-18 

15 Yahweh thy Elohim will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

16 According to all that thou desiredst of Yahweh thy Elohim in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the Yahweh my Elohim, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.

17 And Yahweh said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

Now in reading this passage you will notice that it speaks in the singular, "will raise up unto thee (you) A Prophet, . unto HIM ye shall hearken;" 

To say, Yah shall raise up prophets obviously conveys a different thought. The verse also states that "from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, LIKE UNTO ME;

You see, there is not an idle word in this passage. This prophet that Yah shall raise up shall be like unto Moses. I preceded to show how Moses differs from other prophets. Before we go there also note that one of the reasons why this prophet needed to be sent was because Yah reminded them as we read in Deuteronomy 18:16 that Israel asked for, and required an INTERCESSOR.

16 According to all that thou desiredst of Yahweh  thy Elohim in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.

Numbers 12:1-8 1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

2 And they said, Hath YAHWEH indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And YAHWEH heard it.

3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)

4 And YAHWEH spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out.

5 And YAHWEH came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.

6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I YAHWEH will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house.

With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of YAHWEH shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?

9 And the anger of YAHWEH was kindled against them; and he departed.

"If there be a prophet among you".. Yah said he will appear unto him in either a vision or a dream. With Moses, he will speak mouth to mouth and he will behold the similitude of Yah.  

For the prophecied prophet to be the one of Deuteronomy 18, he will have to also speak mouth to mouth with Yah and behold his similitude. ALSO. notice that Aaron and Miriam was punished and could have been cut off. WHY? Because they felt they, knew, and followed Torah JUST as you, our so-called "Torah-only" brothers feel, but yet they rose up against the ONE that Yah sent. 

The ONE that was able to make intercession for them,  Israel, regardless of ALL the Torah you claim to keep, DON'T GET CUT OFF because you reject the one whom Yah sent. 

Moses clearly told you that whosoever will NOT hearken unto my words which HE (NOT THEY) shall speak in MY NAME, I will require of him.

Moses was a ruler. He was also a savior!

Hosea 12:13 And by a prophet YAHWEH brought Israel out of Egypt, and by a prophet was he preserved.

One of the points the "LawKeepers"  like to make is,  how Yah stands alone. Only HE does this and HE does that. HOW Yah does it,  is the question that they need answered. 

Genesis 1:26 Yah said let US make man in OUR image. So Yah had assistance when WE were created? Imagine that! Yah delivered/saved Israel out of Egypt but it was through a prophet. Did we really need Hosea to tell us this? The point is, he did, and though Hosea was not a prophet "like unto Moses", he WAS a prophet of Yah.

Isaiah 11:1-11 1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

2 And the spirit of YAHWEH shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of YAHWEH;

3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of YAHWEH: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:

4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of YAHWEH, as the waters cover the sea.

10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

What's the deal with the one known as "the BRANCH". 
 Isaiah prophecied concerning Yah raising up "The Branch" which comes from the "stem of Jesse." Yahweh's spirit shall rest upon him and he shall be a JUDGE. He will also be a warrior smiting the earth.

I dare ANY Israelite to show me documentation of their lineage which goes back to Jesse. For this Branch to appear, we have  to KNOW that this "stem of Jesse" exist already, and his lineage IS already documented to have come from Jesse.

Jeremiah 23:1-8 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith YAHWEH.

2 Therefore thus saith YAHWEH Elohim of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith YAHWEH.

3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.

4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith YAHWEH.

5 Behold, the days come, saith YAHWEH, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. 

7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith
YAHWEH, that they shall no more say, YAHWEH liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

8 But, YAHWEH liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.

"LawKeepers" and none messianics in general, your lack of understanding the scripures makes you  guilty of scattering the pasture of Yah! Jeremiah gives another witness concerning Yah raising up UNTO David a righteous Branch. As you can CLEARLY see, David is NOT that branch. The Branch IS a son of David. This Branch shall reign and shall be called YAHWEH OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Jeremiah 33;14-21, 26 14 Behold, the days come, saith YAHWEH, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, YAHWEH our righteousness.

17 For thus saith YAHWEH; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

19 And the word of YAHWEH came unto Jeremiah, saying,

20 Thus saith YAHWEH; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.

26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.

Notice verse 21 where it says the covenant with David, that he should not have a son to reign on his throne, can't be broken. The BRANCH is David's son. When Jeremiah received this prophecy, Zedekiah, the last King of Judah, had already been pretty much out the box, and none of David's seed have sat on the throne since. So the prophecy concerning one who is to rule Israel could only apply to ONE!

Zechariah 3:1-10 1 And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of YAHWEH, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.

2 And YAHWEH said unto Satan, YAHWEH rebuke thee, O Satan; even the YAH that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.

4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.

5 And I said, Let them set a fair mitre upon his head. So they set a fair mitre upon his head, and clothed him with garments. And the angel of YAHWEH stood by.

6 And the angel of YAHWEH protested unto Joshua, saying,

7 Thus saith YAHWEH of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by.

8 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I
will bring forth my servant the BRANCH.

9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith YAHWEH of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.

10 In that day, saith YAHWEH of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.

Yahshua (Joshua) in this chapter is a priest of the tribe of Levi during the time when the Israelites returned from Babylon and rebuilt the temple.

There is a doctrine among some (maybe all, not sure) of the LawKeepers that states that there were NO Israelites that returned to Judah after they were takened into the Babylonian captivity. They believe this only to prove that Yahshua HaMashiak can't be the prophecied Messiah. This doctrine is Satanic of the highest degree. The books of Kings, Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, Jeremiah, Haggai, Zechariah, among others would ALL be considered FALSE BOOKS because each account for the return of the Israelites dispersed in Babylon.

Zechariah 6: 9 And the word of YAHWEH came unto me, saying,

10 Take of them of the captivity, even of Heldai, of Tobijah, and of Jedaiah,
which are come from Babylon, and come thou the same day, and go into the house of Josiah the son of Zephaniah;

11 Then take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set them upon the head of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest;

12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh YAHWEH of hosts, saying,
Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of YAHWEH:

13 Even he shall build the temple of YAHWEH; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

Again, here in Zechariah 6, Yahshua the priest receives the prophecy of the BRANCH who shall rule on the throne AND be a priest. HOLD UP!!!!!! The BRANCH, as we clearly read comes from Jesse/David of the tribe of Judah AND he will be a PRIEST TOO?????!!!! WOW.....I thought this was a Christian/New Testament concept!!!!!

Micah 5:1 Now gather thyself in troops, O daughter of troops: he hath laid siege against us: they shall smite the judge of Israel with a rod upon the cheek.

2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

3 Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel.

4 And he shall stand and feed in the strength of YAHWEH, in the majesty of the name of YAHWEH his Elohim; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.

Who have we already read that "is to be ruler in Israel?" The BRANCH is who. 

The teacher that represented the LawKeepers in the discussion, stated that this one who is to be ruler in Israel "whose goings forth have been of old, from EVERLASTING" was King Hezekiah. Hmmmm... (???????) 

Wasn't Hezekiah king of Judah? When was he "to be ruler?" concerning his going forths being from., FORGET ABOUT IT.  NEXT!!!!

 Before the real one who was to be king became king, he had to give Israel UP! So the ANOINTED BRANCH DID exist BEFORE he became ruler in Israel. Israel was given up, put into captivity and is in TRAVAIL.

Daniel 9:24-27  24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto
the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate

I didn't get into a big breakdown here, but we read here how Messiah shall be cut off but not for himself, and then desolations would befall Israel. "and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. 

In the 2nd verse, we know that Daniel was reading the writings of Jeremiah, so it is in Jeremiah 15 where we can read what the desolations are.

Isaiah 53: 1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of YAHWEH revealed?

2 For
he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely
he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of Elohim, and afflicted.

5 But
he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All
we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and YAHWEH hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9 And
he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it pleased YAHWEH to bruise
him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of YAHWEH shall prosper in his hand.

He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide
him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

LawKeepers claim that the suffering servant here, is Israel. This doctrine alone should have raised a red flag to anyone that follows the doctrines of this group. The first verse lets us know that the "arm of Yahweh" IS the suffering servant. In the subsequent verses you read "hard to understand words" such as "he" "we" "our."  

DO I have to really explain who the
"he" "we" and "our" is? If so then not only is it amazing that you got this far in this article, but you may want to sit in front of PBS television for a few hours one weekday morning, and then get back with me. {:o)

Psalms 110: 1 YAHWEH said unto my Master, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

2 YAHWEH shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

4 YAHWEH hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

5 The Master at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.

6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.

7 He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.

David is speaking here stating that Yahweh said to HIS / David's master, to sit on his right hand until he make his enemies his footstool. Again, we read that not only is David's master, the BRANCH, the one whose going forths have been of old, from everlasting, but he is the priest after the order of Melchisidek. Again we read how he shall JUDGE the nations.

Psalms 2: 1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against YAHWEH, and against his anointed, saying,

3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: YAHWEH shall have them in derision.

5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

7 I will declare the decree: YAHWEH hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

11 Serve YAHWEH with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

The BRANCH is Yahweh's SON! He shall reign and be given the heathen for an inheritance and the uttermost parts of the earth for a possession. The nations are adjured to KISS THE SON, lest they perish.

In this dialogue, I don' recall any of the passages in Psalms being addressed by the LawKeepers, but they did offer questions that were not presented in the previous presentation. Before there questions session, their  teacher did a presentation which presented few, if ANY scriptures.

Based on what was presented, everything I offered previously went in one ear then out the other. So to deal with the ORIGINAL statement, as well as answering the questions proved to bee VAIN.

What beast is it that can consume meat and NOT drink milk? (Naw, that's not script, it's a question.

YAHSHUA HaMashiach IS THE BRANCH who came and fulfilled Isaiah 53, Daniel 9, and other prophecies not mentioned here. He is the ONE that was to be ruler in Israel, born in Bethlehem, of the seed of David, who had to give Israel up.

ONLY by understanding these prophecies can you understand the Gospels (known as the New Testament) Do NOT reject Yah's anointed. Learn of HIM! When Yahshua came, Israel was subjected to the Roman empire, Edomite governors, and teachers/leaders, who dealt with Torah falsely (Matthew 15), and created civil laws which were contrary to Yah.

One of these civil laws was that unlawful for Israelites to come unto one of another nation. (Acts 10:28) This law was a direct violation of Yahweh's covenant with Israel which required us  to be a nation of priest. (Exodus 19:5-6) Yahshua taught the elect,  Torah without the vain traditions. He  commanded them to teach ALL NATIONS (Matthew 28:19)

The apostles did that and converted MANY people of all nations BASED on Yahshua's mission. When ISRAEL went into the LAST captivity out of Judah/Israel in 70 AD, Israelites were of NO consequence to the Roman empire. (Ephesians 2, Colossians 2, Romans 9-11 chapters) Who WAS a consequence was the MANY converts who DIED for the truth! They were fed to lions, hung up on crosses, 

In around 317 AD, Emperor Constantine, in his attempt to put a stop to the killings and to bring the empire together, created a new religion, using elements of the truth but with PAGAN trappings and called it CHRISTIANITY! THIS is where Jesus (Iezeus), Sunday worship, Easter, Christmas, and trinity worship comes from.

The fact is though, that had not Israel, through Yahshua's mission, been a light to the Gentiles, causing MANY converts to DIE for the truth, then, we would not have the TRUTH, preserved for us IN OUR captivity TODAY! The written word that we have available to us today is a DIRECT result of who Yahshua is, and what he came to do. My case is rested.

Grace & peace 

Brother  Josiah or  (Zeb) as we call him, is the author of the book,
THE GOSPEL, RAW UNCUT AND UNHEARD) which can be purchase on this site, check the media page.  He also is the webmaster for the website


Physical Appearance

Leviticus 26:

Deuteronomy 28:

More Curses

Hebrewism Of Africa

Characteristics Of Israel

Parallels of Slavery

Genesis 15:13

Lost Identity

Don't follow Jewish Tradition

The Nationality

The Exile & Return

The Valley Of Dry Bones

Revelation 2:9 &3:9

The Duty Of The Chosen People

Israelites & Gentiles

Edom & Khazar

The 3 Fold Mission & Duty of the Askhenazi Jews

Old & New Testaments, The Message to Israel


Roman Historian Comments
Ancient Israel


View & SIGN

The ALL New
Israelite Heritage

Free Guestbooks by

Arthur Kostler
The 13th Tribe




Jews & The Slave Trade

1999-2007 Hebrew Israelite Heritage ALL RIGHTS RESERVED