Case #2 Jehovah's Witnesses

In this encounter, two Jehovah's Witnesses wanted to debate me.  Jehovah Witness 1 and Jehovah Witness 2 represent the Witnesses’ and I’m Pulpitpastor.  As you can see, people tend to mock the opponent instead of defending their doctrines.

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Jehovah's Witness 2: good let's begin

Jehovah's Witness 2: welcome

Jehovah's Witness 2: i understand there is a religious debate here???

Jehovah's Witness 1: well now...

Jehovah's Witness 1: not exactly...

Jehovah's Witness 1: hey talk!

Jehovah's Witness 2: k

Jehovah's Witness 1: not u

Jehovah's Witness 2: where's "jimmy"?

Pulpitpastor: hi

Pulpitpastor: sorry

Jehovah's Witness 1: so jimmy wut were u saying bout us?

Pulpitpastor: too many people i'm talking too

Pulpitpastor: how's everyone doing?

Jehovah's Witness 2: fine thank u

Jehovah's Witness 1: sem here

Jehovah's Witness 2: so lets begin

Pulpitpastor: what are all your beliefs?

Jehovah's Witness 2: well, thats is tyoo broad

Jehovah's Witness 2: tell me where u think the discrepencies are

Jehovah's Witness 2: i believe that u r christian...am i correct?

Jehovah's Witness 1: jimmy....

Pulpitpastor: yes

Pulpitpastor: I'm a christian

Jehovah's Witness 1: please respond...

Pulpitpastor: you?

Jehovah's Witness 1: u know who we are....

Jehovah's Witness 2: well i am a jekovah's witness

Jehovah's Witness 1: me too...

Jehovah's Witness 2: sorry, jehovah's

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Pulpitpastor: sorry

Pulpitpastor: got dropped

Jehovah's Witness 2: thats good

Jehovah's Witness 2: so we were saying....

Pulpitpastor: yes...

Jehovah's Witness 2: what do u believe in our belief is wrong?

Pulpitpastor: okay...

Pulpitpastor: who's belief are we talking about?

Pulpitpastor: are u an athesit?

Jehovah's Witness 2: uh...no..where the hell were u?

Pulpitpastor: what?

Jehovah's Witness 2: i am one of jw's like john

Pulpitpastor: oh

Pulpitpastor: for how long?

Jehovah's Witness 1: dude jimmy PAY ATTENTION!!!!!!

Jehovah's Witness 1: ur making me TICKING ME OFF AGAIN!!!!!1

Pulpitpastor: sorry

Jehovah's Witness 2: lol...calm down

Pulpitpastor: I'm trying to witness to these people right now that's why...

Pulpitpastor: athiest...

Jehovah's Witness 1: well....

Pulpitpastor: alright...

Jehovah's Witness 1: prove us wrong....

Jehovah's Witness 1: come on.....

Pulpitpastor: prove you wrong?

Jehovah's Witness 2: or try...lol

Jehovah's Witness 2: or try...lol

Jehovah's Witness 1: will you stop playing dumb?

Pulpitpastor: That's a universal negative...it's a logical fallacy

Pulpitpastor: prove your doctrines right

Jehovah's Witness 2: but u said there was a decrepency in our religion

Jehovah's Witness 2: tell me a doctrine to prove

Pulpitpastor: who was Jesus?

Jehovah's Witness 2: the son of god

Jehovah's Witness 1: not GOD

Jehovah's Witness 1: SON of GOD

Pulpitpastor: okay

Jehovah's Witness 1: NOT ONE GOD...

Pulpitpastor: was he more ?

Jehovah's Witness 1: SON OF GOD

Pulpitpastor: or less?

Jehovah's Witness 2: son of Jehovah, simply put

Pulpitpastor: kay

Pulpitpastor: what was his nature?

Pulpitpastor: was he...

Pulpitpastor: a...

Jehovah's Witness 1: yeh sam yil che yea....

Jehovah's Witness 2: o

Jehovah's Witness 1: al jee?

Jehovah's Witness 2: yup

Pulpitpastor: okay

Jehovah's Witness 1: was he a wut?

Jehovah's Witness 2: then let me toss u a question, who did jesus pray to in the garden of gethsemanea?

Pulpitpastor: God the Father

Pulpitpastor: now, about Jesus again..

Pulpitpastor: could he have been

Pulpitpastor: an angel?

Jehovah's Witness 2: yes, he was an angel...

Jehovah's Witness 2: the leader of the angels in fact.

Jehovah's Witness 2: he was michael the "captain"

Pulpitpastor: okay...

Pulpitpastor: sirs, do you all hold to the Bible as the truth?

Jehovah's Witness 2: yes, absolutely...ma'am, or sir

Jehovah's Witness 1: yes...

Pulpitpastor: If so...where..

Pulpitpastor: okay, let's stop for a while here...

Pulpitpastor: how old are you J2?

Pulpitpastor: are you just attacking someone personally ?

Jehovah's Witness 2: 17

Jehovah's Witness 2: nope

Pulpitpastor: Is this how one treats another in the debate of truth?

Jehovah's Witness 2: no

Jehovah's Witness 2: i am not sure of ur gender, thats it

Pulpitpastor: I'm a guy

Jehovah's Witness 1: jimmy ur sounding wierd...

Jehovah's Witness 1: stop side tracking and get to the point.

Pulpitpastor: And Jehovah's Witness 2, you know it...

Jehovah's Witness 1: u do this at school.... you do this online....

Jehovah's Witness 2: k,now i do

Jehovah's Witness 1: man....

Pulpitpastor: just look at the first lines you put above

Jehovah's Witness 2: ?

Pulpitpastor: you know I'm a guy

Jehovah's Witness 1: jimmy don't start....

Jehovah's Witness 2: really?

Pulpitpastor: i don't take this derogatory attacks here

Jehovah's Witness 1: get to the STUPID point...

Pulpitpastor: I treat you with respect according to scripture in 1PEter 3:15...

Pulpitpastor: okay...

Jehovah's Witness 1: yeah rite...

Pulpitpastor: anyways...

Pulpitpastor: where in the Bible...

Jehovah's Witness 2: lol, calm down, maybe he's just scared i'd prove him wrong, thats all

Jehovah's Witness 1: no kiddin...

Pulpitpastor: you didnt prove me wrong

Jehovah's Witness 2: i said u 'r scared i might

Pulpitpastor: Show me, in scripture where it shows Jesus as Michael the archangel?

Pulpitpastor: again...no personal attacks please

Pulpitpastor: just focus it on the word here sir, that would be better

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Jehovah's Witness 2: welcome back

Pulpitpastor: hi

Pulpitpastor: okay...

Jehovah's Witness 2: so...

Pulpitpastor: as I was asking...

Jehovah's Witness 2:  believe u beleive in trinity

Jehovah's Witness 2: i

Pulpitpastor: ?

Pulpitpastor: I was asking you about a proof text in the Bible for Jesus being an angel

Pulpitpastor: well...

Jehovah's Witness 2: yes...jude 9

Pulpitpastor:Pulpitpastor: Jehovah's Witness 2...

Pulpitpastor: Jude 9 states...9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.  Jude 1:9 (KJV)

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Pulpitpastor: where does it show Jesus being Michael?

Jehovah's Witness 2: yes,

Pulpitpastor: unless you twist it...

Jehovah's Witness 2: what did jesus say to satan's three tests?

Jehovah's Witness 2: tell me his response...when satan tempted jesus to turn rocks into bread after his fast for 40 days?

Jehovah's Witness 2: and then the test on the temple wall, and the test with the vision of satan's domain?

Pulpitpastor: 4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.  Matt 4:4 (KJV)

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Pulpitpastor: okay

Pulpitpastor: so?

Pulpitpastor: any reply?

Jehovah's Witness 1 has left the room.

Pulpitpastor: okay then...

As you have seen, the Jehovah's Witnesses left the room, not dropped...cause later on I imed both of them.  HEre's the unedited response:

Pulpitpastor: well?

Pulpitpastor: did J2 got dropped?

Jehovah's Witness 1: thought u werent combatative?

Pulpitpastor: no

Jehovah's Witness 1: tsk tsk tsk....

Pulpitpastor: no ad hominem attacks

Jehovah's Witness 1: forget it man....

Pulpitpastor: forget what?

Jehovah's Witness 1: neva mind

Pulpitpastor: wjat happen to the guy?

And the other one:

Pulpitpastor: hey

Pulpitpastor: so...

Jehovah's Witness 2: ?

Pulpitpastor: you got dropped there

Jehovah's Witness 2: yup

Jehovah's Witness 2: i left

Pulpitpastor: why?

Pulpitpastor: are you really a member of the Watchtower and Tract society?

Jehovah's Witness 2: cuz i realized that no matter how much we debate none of us will be persuaded

Pulpitpastor: oh

Pulpitpastor: i respect that honesty

Pulpitpastor: that's commendable

Jehovah's Witness 2: yes i am, do u suspect me?

Pulpitpastor: you're a high school student?

Pulpitpastor: i'm saying that honesty is noble

I think we can all learn something here from this "debate" with the Jehovah's Witnesses.   I didn’t do as good as I would have want.  Sometimes, dialogues aren’t glamorous clear-cut refutation.

Case #3 Deferred Death

Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to develop more of my points because he either got dropped or block me. Stuff happens.

Case #4 Snapping Twigs

Indeed I have prayed for him.

Case #5 Snapping Twigs

On November 18, 2001 this atheist instant messaged me. How rare it is that someone would take the initiative in dialoguing with me. For a change of mood, this gentleman has some respect hence he is represented as R for respect in this transcript.

R: Do I recieve the dignity of an answer, or the disrespect of being ignored?

Pulpitpastor: What is your question that you want answer sir?

Pulpitpastor: I would love to dialogue...

R: Why did you list Atheism as one of your interests?

Pulpitpastor: Cause I wanted to know about what it means for an atheist to hold to atheistic views...

Pulpitpastor: may I ask you, why are you an atheist?

Pulpitpastor: you want to maintain a dialogue?

Pulpitpastor:Pulpitpastor: Here's another question: Is your life doomed?

R: And even then, some of the values that the predominate portion of the Christian population I don't agree with

R: *believe in...excuse my absence of mind at the present moment.

Pulpitpastor: sorry...I got dropped...

R: that's all right.

R: did you recieve my last message?

Pulpitpastor: The last one I got was this: R: Why did you list Atheism as one of your interests?

Pulpitpastor: Before I got dropped

Pulpitpastor: I am getting dropped too much by Net Zero tonight...

R: Lovely.

R: I loathe net zero. 

Pulpitpastor: You want to maintain a civilized contact dialogue for maybe two or three more times sir?

Pulpitpastor:Pulpitpastor: I might get dropped again...

R: That sounds fair.  That was my intent to begin with.

Pulpitpastor: But before I get dropped for good...

Pulpitpastor: I want to commend you for your upright and your willingness to dialogue

Pulpitpastor: It's quite a thing to do sometimes to go to the other side and wnat to intiate a discussion

Pulpitpastor: When would you be on tommorow?

Pulpitpastor: Based on Pacific Standard time

R: Whew....i'd say about...8:00 PM your time.  My girlfriend of a year lives out there, so i'm usually on here to talk to her.

Pulpitpastor: Kay...

Pulpitpastor: My name is JImmy Li...

Pulpitpastor: you?

R: Sean

Pulpitpastor: I see...

Pulpitpastor: hey, I have this website... https://www.angelfire.com/rock2/team

R: I've been

Pulpitpastor: If you want to check it out...

R: Thanks, but no thanks.  No disrespect, but i'm interested in opinion and serious discussion, and I rarely have time to check out websites.

Pulpitpastor: Cool...

Pulpitpastor: that's alright

R: Ok.

R: I was going to ask you a similar question to the one you asked me earlier:  Why are you christian?

Pulpitpastor: Three reason...

Pulpitpastor: THe personal reason...it would explain the purpose of my reason for living

Pulpitpastor: IN terms of comparative religion, it has been the one that has been to me, able to withstand the most consistency

Pulpitpastor: And in terms of the historical case for Christianity, it is capable

Pulpitpastor: I don't claim to be no scholar, I hope you would understand

R: I do

Pulpitpastor: you are a scholar?

R: Amateur

Pulpitpastor: great!  What area?

R: Just General Knoweldge

R: I like to know a little bit about everything.

Pulpitpastor: wonderful...I assume you must know logical structure

R: i've heard of the principle.  I've never studied.  I've slackend off in recent months due to moving out on my own for the first time, and i've been busying myself with Job hunting and music for the most part, just so I can make ends meet.

Pulpitpastor: cool...no pressure man...

R: No problem.

Pulpitpastor: may I ask you a question that might be a bit personal?

R: That's fine.

Pulpitpastor: Do you prefer to dialogue with a upfront honest Christian that you might disagree with or a CHristian that might not be so honest about what he or she believes but is rather uh, sugar coated nice?

R: upfront, honest.  I realize that we're both coming from differen't schools of thought, and that our ideas of what is right are going to clash, but i'm not worried about that. 

Pulpitpastor: Great...youre my type of man

R: That's good. 

Pulpitpastor: You want to talk about something for ten minutes before I have to sleep?

R: What did you have in mind?

Pulpitpastor: Hm...

Pulpitpastor: You know what Christianity teaches?

R: Did you get that?

Pulpitpastor:Pulpitpastor: I got droppeed again...

Pulpitpastor: no

R: From my understanding, it's supposed to teach love for one's self, others, and the world as a whole.  it teaches moral values, and teaches you to have faith when things don't look as bright as they should.

Pulpitpastor: intresting...

Pulpitpastor: Have you ever hear of the Gospel?

R: i've heard OF it, i've not heard t.

R: or read it.

Pulpitpastor: kay...this is where I guess the fulcrum of CHristianity lays...that man has fallen in it's sin, that in the eyes of a righteous God, there's to be a punishment for us...but since He loved us, Christ died on the cross so that by faith we can trust in Him as sufficient to take away our sins and give us a new life

Pulpitpastor: Hey, I gotta go...sorry but let's talk two or three more times kay?

Case #6 Pulpitpastor vs. ANTIChRiSt64666

CONCLUSION-I hoped the guy would wake up from his foolishness.