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True Christians?


KJV

(Just what does it mean to be a Christian. Well first off, the title implies one is a follower of Jesus Christ of Nazareth and His teaching, and counts Him as their Lord and Savior. But, how does one really tell if a man is of Christ. As you might have guessed by now, I believe in the Word of God as written. I know "Who wrote the bible." I do not believe one has to change any verses of it, and for the most part, unless there is no other reasonable explanation, is to be taken literally. )
1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

There John makes it clear, he is very blunt about it infact. If one doesn't openly confess Jesus IS the Christ, and came in the flesh, they are an antichrist. ANYONE that does. . . is of God. Now that is what the bible says, am I a fool to believe the bible at its word.

1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

1 Corinitains 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.


Whoaaaaa? The innuendoes there are very astute to say the least. Paul is making it VERY evident, who can and who can not say "Jesus is Lord." Now, I know, you say all people that make the declaration they are Christian, are not. And you would be correct, because all people that claim they are Christians, DO NOT confess Jesus Christ as Lord openly. They say they are Christian, some, but no one ever puts them to the test.

Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

John 3:17-19 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.


(Now this works BOTH WAYS! "Who so ever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. "Man, some professed Christians would like to rip that right out of the bible. Only their family and their church group are going to make it to heaven don't ya know. They have become a stumbling block. Don't let them steal your soul!)
Mathew 10:32-42 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth Him that sent me. He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward. And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.


"Father made it very easy to go to heaven, just call on his name. Christ will take care of the rest. Your sins will be washed, you will be born again into spirit, and will sin no more! As long as you keep up that faith."
Luke 12:8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:


"Once one does this, a change starts to take place, they won't see it at first nor will the others, and some Christians will label one not saved because they haven't learned all the word or how to control their flesh. BABY STEPS for some, does not mean they are not of Christ, just that they are not as blessed with all the knowledge and will God has in store for them. And I leave these verses for those that say the word of God doesn't mean what it says in the verses above."
Luke 11:46 And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.

Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

Mathew 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

Mathew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.


("DEAD FLESH... LIVE SPIRIT!")


John 11:25-26 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Colossians 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

Colossians 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

Galations 2:19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Romans 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

2 Timothy 2:11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:

2 Corinitains 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:

1 Peter 4:2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
4:3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:
4:4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:
4:5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.


(Okay so by them verses once you call on the name of Christ in truth, you become part of Him, and that flesh of the body your spirit wears becomes dead, having died on the cross with Christ, the wages of sin is death... the flesh dies on the cross with Christ... now one must come alive in spirit somehow?)

("Born again! The quickening!! Lets let the word say it.")


Romans 8:9-11 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

  • Main Entry: quick·en
  • Pronunciation: 'kwi-k&n
  • Function: verb
  • Inflected Form(s): quick·ened; quick·en·ing /'kwi-k&-ni[ng], 'kwik-ni[ng]/
  • Date: 14th century
  • transitive senses
  • 1 a : to make alive :REVIVE b : to cause to be enlivened :STIMULATE
  • 2 archaic a:KINDLE b:to cause to burn more intensely
  • 1 :to quicken something
  • 2 :to come to life; especially :to enter into a phase of active growth and development

    (Okay, so "The Quickening" means to be made or make alive... and Christ makes us alive by coming and joining his spirit to our soul... and brings to life our spirit... and in such a way that while He is with us, we cannot deny He is Lord. )

    1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

    ("Again" )

    John 5:20-21 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

    ( "Again" )
    Romans 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

    ( "Again" )

    Ephessians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

    ( "Again" )

    Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

    ( "Again" )

    1 Corinitains 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

    ( "Again" )

    1 Timothy 6:13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;

    ( "Again" )

    John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

    ( "Again" )

    ( It is "The Quickening" of ones soul into spirit that is our proof, Christ is alive in me!!! How could I deny what lives in me? It is the entwining of His spirit with our soul which brings our very spirit alive, and it is this, that others lack, and why they can't understand why we believe what they deem as nonsense.

    For a much more in-depth study on this subject please click on "THE QUICKENING" page for much more infromation. Thanks! )


    KJV Psalms 22:29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.

    "NO SIN?"

    (The affirmations in the Word of God on the doctrine of being made free from sin, to be pure, and clean of all wickedness. )

    (When one hears that phrase "free from sin" or "sinless" they automatically get irate because of preconceived notions and persuasions of just what is meant by the declaration "Christians are sinless." I am determine however to show you that not only will Christ have nothing to do with sin, but that a Christian is indeed sinless, because he is born of the Spirit, and that they are no longer of the flesh by the bible, but Born of the Spirit of Christ, which is sinless.

    Understand this first and foremost, I believe that God was indeed able to get His Word to the English masses just as intended. I do not believe He is so weak that He could not understand English and I do not need to change the meaning of 1001 verses or cry "The interpretation is wrong, it doesn't mean what it says!" for my doctrine to hold to the Word of God, for it is the Word of God, and the Word of God as written as intended, for the common soul.

    Now you might think Almighty Father is so weak that He is not able to get the Word to the English masses just the way he wanted, and clearly you will contend that every verse presented here is "not to be taken at face value, the bible doesn't mean what it says, its a trick book, not meant but for a few to understand."

    There's a lot of that going around now a days, as if the word of God is only sent to the Hebrews and Greeks. . . my God was able to get His word to the billions of English people down the ages just the way he wanted, so if your one of them people that always tries to claim the bible doesn't mean what it says, you won't get much out of this at all.)

    1John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

    1John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

    (Okay lets start with that, Now who sins? WAIT! Are you already having to change the bible from its face value? I know let's cry, OUT OF CONTEXT! Context comingggg uuuppppp!)

    1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

    John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

    1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

    (Do you have hope in Christ? By that, if you have this hope (Romans 8:24-25) in Christ, that faith in Christ, purifieth you, even as Christ is pure! We sure don't make Christ pure by our faith in Him, He makes us pure, by the faith we placed on Him.)

    1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

    (See) "for sin is the transgression of the law" (Sin is what? The transgression of the law? Are you still under the law?)

    1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

    (See) "he was manifested to take away our sins" (Why was Christ made known, why did He come?? To take away our sin? Did He fail?)

    1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

    (See) "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not" (Now do you abide in Christ or not?) "whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him" (By this verse if you sin, you do not know Christ.)

    1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

    (Are you righteous?) 1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (You're under the law?, or you're a righteous man? By that and many others verses you are a righteous servant of God. Don't going getting all pig headed about that, highmindedness by the bible is one way to lose salvation. Once saved always saved is false! But thats getting ahead of the game. )

    1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

    (See)"He that committeth sin is of the devil" (If you commit sin, your of the devil, see what John is getting at? He is showing you just how powerful the seed of God is.)

    1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

    (But see) "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;" (Are you born of God?) "and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." (What does this born of God mean? Because whosoever is born of God, cannot sin!)

    1 john 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

    (John clears that up as well, if you believe Jesus is the Christ, and love Him, you are born of God, NOW John is going to slam it home! Making sure he says it one more time to make it very clear what he means.)

    1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

    (See) "We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;" (John couldn't have made it any more clear.)

    (Yes, Yes I know, that's not what your professor taught you at seminar, so you have to play the spin doctor, and try to claim God is a weak God that cannot inspire English scribes to translate right because he wanted all the English people not fluent in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek to perish. And that would be fine, expect John is not the only one that preachers this doctrine of the bible, but Paul and Peter as well as others. BUT FIRST, lets go over the rebuttal verses always presented and doomed to fail in debate if taken at face value for what they say. I believe they mean just what they say. YOU better grid up your loins Christian, get ready to walk BOLD, as King David did before the giant, because people are going to come, they are going to try and tear your faith down, they are going to claim your a sinner, your not a Christian and the acts of your flesh proves your not of God. They are going to imprison some of you, and try to break you, your hope in Christ, and they will use the guilt Satan has used on us for 2000 years! Stand up, take charge, know the Word of God and the power of the blood!)

    1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

    (Christ cleanseth us from all sin! Not will. Not, is going to. But the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin now

    1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

    (Now this is one of the verses they love to use, showing we do have sin, and it would be nice, and a good verse for rebuttal, had it not been nestled in between to verses that show we are clean of that sin we had.") 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    "and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." (Now if you say, that is to come, then you are saying Christ has not yet forgiven us of our past sins.) "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins," (See, it clearly shows that the sin, through the power of God, is cleansed, and we have no unrighteousness in us.)

    Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; (Here is another one, and there are others just like it, that state we "have" sinned. Yes all have sinned, and our flesh sins daily as well, BUT we are born of the spirit, and our flesh is dead. That's right, our flesh is dead to us and to Christ. (rom 6:3-6, rom 7:9, col 3:3, col 2:20, gal 2:9) Not only that, but we all died on the cross with Christ. Understand this, we live by the word of God, that is to say, it is the steadfastness of our faith. In part, that is not to say that all our faith, built up in the word, and by reading the word, that in part brings us closer to God. (1 Tim 4:16, 2 Timothy 2:15,) Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. That is not to say that is the olny way a Christian helps to build on his faith and steadfastness, to say the lest.

    (Now you're going to have to rewrite the 1st Book of John before we go any further. You cannot take it at face value for what it says, and still claim to sin and be a sinner. To do that would suggest you don't enjoy the capability to perform at the fifth grade reading level. No, no, you're going to have to rewrite the bible, or claim it's a translation error. Now the first opinion has be done to death before, and the second one fails as well. Do a study block on it, it is spelled out in the Greek as well.)

    John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

    "Now we know that God heareth not sinners" (Okay have it your way, your a sinner? Oh wait? Your going to have to change the meaning of that verse by Christ as well?)

    Galations 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
    (Christ is sinless and will have NOTHING to do with sin, so he cleans you of that sin, retroactive from the cross. We will get to the doctrine of you dying on the cross in a bit. One thing at a time. . . )

    Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
    (Romans Chapters 5, 6 and 7 shine light on this subject as well. Because of time and space, I will not post the whole chapters but cut to the chase, and jest of the meaning. . . and that verse there shows you're free from sin.)

    Romans 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

    Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    "But now being made free from sin" (So by that, you're free from sin, your fruits "works" are given to holiness and in the end, everlasting life. BUT if you sin, your wage is death. No everlasting life.)

    Ezekiel 3:21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.
    (Even the Old Testament agrees with the New. Now your going to have to change all the verses, or come to the truth of JUST who you are! You want to see who you are, your a Child of God!)

    Psalms

    82:1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
    82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
    82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
    82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
    82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
    82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
    82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
    82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
    (That is who you are! Read John 10:34-35, 1Cor 6:2-3, Dan 7:22, Revelation 2:26-27 among others places, that shows you will be a judge, just as psalms 82 states. So rise up! Walk bold in knowing Christ has made you his righteous servant! Praise God!)

    Romans 5:11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

    Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    Romans 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
    ( Are you under the law? )

    Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

    Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

    Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

    Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

    Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

    Romans 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
    (So the flesh is under the law, and anything under the law sins, but we are not of the flesh anymore, because we are Born Again into the Spirit of Christ.)

    1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

    "Seeing ye have purified your souls. . . " "purified!"

    1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

    "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God" (That is how awesome God thinks of you for placing your faith in him, despite what your carnal mind tries to tell you. Praise Jesus! There is that word "seed" again. Take that verse and hold it up to 1john 3:9)

    2 Corinitains 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
    (All things have become new, accordingly, by the word of God, we all died on the cross with Christ, and through the quickening, are born again. A New!)

    1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
    (Now that's not saying Christ was ceasing from sin, for Christ never sinned, arm yourself in mind, like Christ, hold fast to the faith God has instilled in your soul, and you shall do well.)

    Isaiah 6:5 Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.
    Isaiah 6:6 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
    Isaiah 6:7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

    (Are we to say that the power of the Blood of Christ is weaker then that coal? How is it that Isaiah is now clean and you are not?)

    Romans 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
    7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
    7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
    7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
    7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
    7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
    (Can you understand that? What Paul is saying is, The things I don't want to do, I keep doing, so it must not be me doing it, because I really don't want to do it "lets use smoking cigarettes" Now he doesn't really want to smoke the damn things! But, Mathew 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak. Christ knows we are weak, and infact it was set up that way. Galations 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. showing that God knows we are weak and infact set it up that way. So He sent His own blood to pay for your sin, now, and if you stay steadfast in that faith, and not fall back into the lust of the flesh, you shall do well. One thing that must not be done is for you to give up on the Blood, because you made a mistake and sinned of the flesh, get back down on your knees, pray to God, and ask Him to help uphold His will in you.)

    John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
    (Here we go again, now your going to have to change all them verses up until now, from the face value of their meaning, and that one as well? Why would Jesus tell that man, to go and "sin no more" if it was impossible? He wouldn't. Please don't come respond with "Well that's not the intent of the verse" Because your going to have to change all them verses, beforehand as well. And that's on just this one subject. TAKE the bible for what it says, God is not out to deceive you, you don't need men telling you what it means, read it! Believe it!)

    John 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
    (Rewrite that as well, then. But while you are at it, you will have to rewrite alot more.)

    Acts 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
    15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
    15:9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
    (God knew your faith, and He purified your heart! Some preachers want to put burdens on you, point and yell, you sinner! Come here, place your money down, say ten hail marys for your sin you wicked servant of, of, of Christ? Is that what Christ has, wicked servants?)

    2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
    Are you wicked?

    1 Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers
    Or a righteous servant of God?

    James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

    Galations 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

    "Paul put it this way"

    Galations 5:16-18 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

    (People God knows your heart, He knows you don't wish to do the things your flesh does, He is telling you, don't beat yourself up about them, you mess up, know your pure by the blood of Christ and get back to doing what you want to do... righteousness! You know HOW MANY people leave God because others drill in them that they sin all the time and everything they do is a sin, and they can never be righteous, yet God uses the term righteous man of God all the time... but thats another topic... though the same. So what burdens will you put on your fellow man, and how are you going to explain all them verses away, you can explain them away to yourself i'm sure, but I bet i beat ya in a debate on it... and look, heres comes some more...")

    Hebrews 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    ("Don't sell the blood of Christ as less then it's worth.")

    Romans 8:1-3 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

    For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

    1 Peter 4:17-18 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

    And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

    ("You're a sinner... or you're reborn into spirit and your flesh sins?"

    there are many things I do that Jesus wouldn't do... but he took all my sin on the cross, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak... IF one doesn't want to smoke, but does, then it is not him doing it, HE doesn't want to, He wishes and prays he could stop... who would want to smoke... A Christian lives by the spirit not the flesh, it is the flesh that makes us do thinks, BUT the "quickening" made us alive in spirit... and clean from all sins, our flesh sins, but we are spirit.)

    Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

    7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

    7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

    7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

    (To some, because they where taught a few one liners from their respective ministers, pastors and reverends take it for granted that they continue to sin, but in fact Christ will have nothing to do with sin other then destroy it, that was his purpose, to wash all sin away, now thats not to say we don't transgress or that sin doesnt dwell in us, that is our flesh... but then again, we are not that flesh are we?

    To say that a Christian sins, one would have to throw out many verses in the bible... many, there is no twisting of the veres, to make them say something else, its clear nor saying these verse are not in the greek or that its not what it means.)

  • Original Word
  • Word Origin aJmartiva from Transliterated Word TDNT Entry Hamartia 1:267,44
  • a. to be without a share in
  • b. to miss the mark
  • c. to err, be mistaken
  • d. to miss or wander from the path of uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong
  • e. to wander from the law of God, violate God's law, sin
  • f. that which is done wrong, sin, an offence, a violation of the divine law in thought or in act collectively, the complex or aggregate of sins committed either by a single person or by many )

    ("Well but didn't Hitler claim to be a Christian. 'Catholic' I never once heard Hilter confess that Christ was his Lord in all the speeches he made, have you? But at any rate 'once saved always saved is a falsehood in my reading of the scripture, and is covered in the link (Salvation.)' he might have been with Christ at one time and fallen from grace. Same with anyone you see doing such wicked things.")

    2 Peter 2:20-22 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.


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