Me: What was your most embarrassing moment on stage?

Rodney: Wow, um, wow, I think my most embarrassing moment on stage… well my first most embarrassing moment was with Dance Party and like the camera was going and it’s like it’s the top of the show and we like say our names and stuff. And I just kinda totally screwed up. I was just like ‘my na-. My na-' (laughs) So then like afterwards the next thing is the camera’s on us and I totally just like, fell. Like, I was dancing and I totally fell out and I was supposed to start MC’ing like the next song and the camera, it literally went on air like that. Like, you saw me dancing one minute and just like spoof I was gone and I just got back up. But onstage.. oh there’s a lot of them… um.. hold on… yea.. I’m trying to think.. I know in Superstar I almost fell in the pit because I had to do like a flip you know?

Me: Don’t they have the thing over the pit?

Rodney: Yea, they had like a net and I almost fell into it and that was one time. And in Rent.. Oh.. I sprained my ankle so that was kind of embarrassing. I was in like clogs, or something, on the table and I just fell out, wipped out, and I continued dancing while I was on the floor. So that, I think, was the most embarrassing. Or like, messing up my lines, you know or like uh, no. the most embarrassing moment was watching Gilles Chaisson screw up. We felt bad for him, because he was doing his ‘honest living’ or something and he just completely forgot words.. no it was when he was on as Mark, and he completely blanked out. And he was like, ‘how sdsflk buga bah’ doing the RENT song and he started speaking jibberish the whole time and we all like.. in that cast we were.. anytime anyone messed up we would just crack up and seriously, no one would feel bad. And we would just like loose it, you know, so we’re all in the back just laughing, hysterically like, while the shows going on and we just lost it. And like Taye, I think one time, I know you asked my one question.. but Taye one time that was embarrassing because he put like black out on his teeth in La Vie Boheme.. the La Vie Boheme scene.. and he was like coming.. he was doing the mimi or roger thing and he then he turns around to all of us and showed us and we all just lost it. And another time Idina, her pants came all the way down by accident and she like, would never hold back, if like something happened, she would just loose it and she would just like crack up. So I think those times were the most embarrassing times for all of us And yea, this one time she was doing it and like her pants came down cause her belt like loose or something and she was doing her monologue and she lost it and was like ‘I have to have a minute’ and walked off stage and everyone was like ::weird face:: uhhh.. and then she came back and was like ‘I’m back’ and then she continued on with the monologue. So those times were embarrassing, you know.

Me: What’s the weirdest thing a fan has ever done for you or said to you?

Rodney: Oh man.. the weirdest thing.. I think, ah.. I have to think back on that.. um.. I’m thinking.. was it in Los Angeles? There’s a lot though. Wow, that’s a hard question. Um.. the weirdest thing.. ok one girl.. and I was just like ‘what?’ I come out of Rent and like ah, I think she was like.. well she wasn’t a girl, she was like in her 50’s and she was like ‘I LOVE YOU.’ And I was like ‘ok great, thank you!’ and I didn’t know what to do. And um, I think she’s like my mom’s age. And so it was kind of like.. and she was like ‘oh my gosh..’ you know? And she just kept coming to the theatre all the time like ‘Is Rodney here?’ and I just like started sneaking out of the theatre. And then Superstar , I think it was.. I think it was.. it was a girl. And she just like had this whole obsession and it wasn’t weird it was just like scary, and she would always come to Superstar, but she worked in refreshments and I say hi to everyone, you know I’m like ‘hey!’ and so, it was.. I think I went out to like the Lounge or something like that like a whole bunch of people, you know, and I was there with my girlfriend and like so we were all sitting there and like the girl comes and she goes like ‘hey Rodney!’ and you’re like ‘hey!’ you know, and I really was kind of like ::weird face:: and everyone was like ‘dude, dude, dude! That’s the girl! That’s the girl!’ and I’m like ‘she’s harmless’ and would have this look in her eyes like ‘ahh..’ and I was like ‘okay..’ you know, but she basically stalked me. You know it was like, found my phone number, called me, it was like the worst thing ever.

My dad: I think most performers have experiences like that though.

Rodney: Yea, I mean pretty much, yea. Whatever you wanna call it, yea, then I went back to Los Angeles and like it was the worst. And she’d like leave me emails and stuff. And be like ‘I saw you for like 10 seconds before!’ and it was just like… it was scary! So now, you know, I haven’t heard from this chick and I’m like ‘ok.. ::crosses fingers::’ So that was like the weirdest thing.

Me: Didn’t you say a girl at Rent Joey’s opening came up to you and asked you if you’d ever be performing nude again in Hair?

Rodney: Oh yea! That was the worst thing. I did Hair last year, I didn’t want to do that show. Not the show.. but I didn’t want to do like that whole nude scene, I was just terrified of it. Then the girls she was just like, not the same girl the other girl, she was like ‘do you think you’re ever gonna do that again??’ and I was just like ‘NO.’ and I’m like ‘uh.. you didn’t have a camera.. ‘ no but it was just like it just weirded me out, that whole time just weirded me out. Being down there, and being forced to do that scene which is kind of like … I’ll never do Hair again, ever. Ever. Just won’t. (Laughs) Yea.

Me: Wanna sing a little Colored Spade?

Rodney: Ohh… um.. ‘I’m a colored spade…. Etc’ No wait, that’s really bad! (Laughs) It’s like.. but how we did it though was kind of awesome. I had this huge afro, did I give you the pictures?

Me: No....

Rodney: I have a whole bunch of pictures that I’ll give to you. And um, I had this huge afro.

My dad: What show was this?

Rodney: Hair. And it was very Jimi Hendrix the way, the way they dressed me up. And it was like kind of slick but like the set was nothing.. it was like a construction area site, how they did I, and I swong on a rope you know, coming in and then slid down it, and it was just very slick. It was just very… ‘hey….. what’s up?’ you know? And then the guy handed me the microphone and I would pick it up… ‘i..’m a colored..’ you know? And I would kind of run around the stage like kind of.. kind of.. I think the review said, it was a great review. It said I was like the love child between jimmy Hendrix and james brown.

Me: yea!

Rodney: So it was just really cool, he was just like.. everyone kept saying ‘you’re cool man…’ and I was like ‘I’m Hud, I don’t know.’ So it was so NOT me cause I’m so like ‘hey! What’s up!?’ and Hud was just like ‘hey.. what’s going on…’ And I don’t do drugs so it kinda.. that was a hard thing that show cause everybody else did and I just didn’t like it. You know, and he just thought that that’s what people do in New York in shows and I said ‘NO we don’t.’ So it was kind of, I think, they thought that in order to be emersed in Hair and do, cause you know it’s about Marijuana and everything, they have to do it. And it’s just like, I’m like the biggest advocate against it.

My dad: Well, it’s acting.

Rodney: Yea and so I was like ‘that’s what’s called acting.’ And so it just kind of.. you know. But I did enjoy the people, I did enjoy the people. Umm.. I had a great time but I’ll never go back to do it again. And they asked me back actually cause they’re doing it again and they paid a great load of money but I just like.. it’s just like, I’ve already done it. So why.. so why go back? You know what I mean?

Me: Yea. So who’s your favorite performer so far on this seasons American Idol?

Rodney: Ahhhh! That’s my show. Umm…. Do you know what.. my favorite.. I don’t know yet. I think Rueben is, and I like uh… I like Clay Atkins but he’s not with us right now. But um, he hopefully will get a wild spot but um, Clay’s a really good singer but there’s something about Rueben, Rueben’s just like he’s a big kid.. you know he has to be around 300 lbs this kid.. and he’s just a really cool singer, so that’s why I like him.

Me: Um, Do you have a celebrity crush? If so, who?

(Interrupted for a second to meet James Barbour, a cast member.)

Rodney: Biggest celebrity crush.. I think my fav.. well I know and it’s always been and I met her, Hallie Berry.

My dad: That’s a good one.

Rodney: I met her at Rent, and like it was the most embarrassing thing.. that was embarrassing actually but it wasn’t on stage. But it was myself and Jesse Martin and we went outside and she’s standing there I was like ‘HI.’ And I just started saying ‘You are so beautiful, I mean, well obviously you know that, you know that already, I just..’ and I went on and she’s just looking at me and she gave me a kiss and I was just like ‘WOW.’ But she, to this day, I’m like so enamered with her. You know, I mean like I’m not going to stalk her, but I love her. She’s awesome.

My dad: You know what was very good? Umm.. Lilly Tomlin. We were walking through um, Shubert Alley one day, we just went to go see Suessical, and Allison goes ‘isn’t she somebody famous?’ and she’s just standing there with one other person and I go ‘yea that’s..’ and her name just totally disappeared.

Rodney: Oh no….

My dad: And any other time, you know, we’ve been watching her for thirty years, and she sees Allison with her camera and she goes ‘come on over!’ and she put her arms around us… such a nice woman.

Rodney: She is nice, I met her.

My dad: I felt so bad not remembering her name.

Rodney: So you didn’t ever say her name at all?

My dad: When she signed it I was like ‘oh thanks Lilly!’

Rodney: Thanks Lilly!

My dad: I mean, any other time I would’ve known her name. I just drew a blank.

Rodney: Right, right.

My dad: She’s such a nice woman.

Rodney: She seems like it. I met her once actually, and she’s so funny but you know..

My dad: Yea she’s on West Wing now. Everyone’s on West Wing now. That’s a good show.

Rodney: Yea.

Me: What’s your favorite show that you’ve been in to date?

Rodney: My favorite show.. well definently not Golden Boy.

Me: You loved that one.

Rodney: Ch. Yea. I hate that show. Um, this show {Dorian Gray} is a great experience, but The 60’s Project. Um.. there’s so many, I think my favorite show to date is.. this is a really great show, it’s a great experience for me, I mean I’ve only been doing it for a week. The 60’s Project, yea.

Me: Do you ever get tired of being back to as ‘Paul & Others’ from RENT?

Rodney: (laughs) Um.. No, cause I think slowly finally getting away from that, you know what I mean? It’s like ‘oh he’s not a kid anymore.’ And also like, it’s been like 7 years, you know what I mean? So a lot of people kind of either, don’t know me or they know me from like Superstar or.. or other things, you know what I mean? Other things, other than Rent. Well, I used to get tired of it, I used to get tired of being in Taye’s shadow. I used to think I was Taye’s shadow and like ‘geez. You know I need to branch out on my own’ that’s another reason why I didn’t take Wild Party cause I just love him to death and I was like ‘you know what, I kind of just need to do my own thing. So you know.. no I don’t get tired, it makes me go back to a good place.

My dad: I think all actors have something that they are identified with.

Rodney: Absolutely, absolutely.

My dad: Which is basically a good thing.

Rodney: Absolutely, but I don’t get tired of that, ‘Paul and Others’ though. Nah.

Me: My friend wanted me to ask you, do you think Christopher Walken is scary?

Rodney: You know what I met Christopher Walken at Caroline’s Comedy Club, and he was the nicest man ever; he wasn’t scary at all.

My dad: I thought he was.

Rodney: Nooo.

My dad: Somebody just recently met him and said he really is scary.

Rodney: No, really, he just seemed cool to me.

Me: I met him at The Producers, he was just there.

Rodney: And you thought he was scary?

Me: I didn’t really get to talk to him that much but..

Rodney: Uh huh…

My dad: He looks it.

Rodney: I know, he looks it but he’s just.. he’s so nice. I just was like ‘ok cool.’ You know, Christopher Walken.

My dad: He just seems like someone who has fun with whatever he does.

Rodney: Absolutely. I liked him.

Me: What advice do you have to give to other aspiring actors?

Rodney: Don’t let anyone tell you your limitations and trust and believe in yourself. And never let yourself set limitations. And also have a realistic of what you can and cannot do. You know, and if you know your weaknesses and your strong points, you know, keep constantly working on those weaknesses. And also keep constantly working on your strong points. But I think the main thing is research and if you get an agent, don’t expect your agent to do all the work, you know, really control your destiny, control your career. And always re-invent yourself. Keep going, keep evolving. And just don’t be afraid. I mean, just confident without being cocky but also be realistic, you know, but really trust your gut.

Me: When you were little and decided you wanted to act, was your family supportive?

Rodney: NO. (laughs) No. My family, and it’s funny because I come from a family that like, we all have talents, like with singing or acting or whatever, and we never did anything with it. We never utilized it. Me… it was like an outlet for me. So I just.. I mean I grew up in a family where my dad was Deputy Commissioner and my grandfather was like a lieutenant and I was like always reading Shakespeare, you know and like we were watching the television and singing or something and they never found it odd or anything you know, and I took gymnastics and I was always in sports and football- I never could play basketball. But um, but I enjoyed recreational things, you know? So I think they.. but when it came down- it always came down to the plays or whatever, what it came down to it, they were like ‘No.’ You know, when I was in 11th grade and I was supposed to do this movie ‘Newsies’, and my dad was like ‘no way.’

My dad: Oh wow!

Me: Whoa!

Rodney: Yea, and he’s just like ‘no way, there’s no way’ and that was like.. that was how I got in touch with Disney and the Mickey Mouse Club a year later, you know what I’m saying, so it was kind of like.. at that point.. it was 12th grade.. cause at that point in time I was still a minor and my dad was like ‘whoa whoa whoa..’

My dad: From a parents perspective, you generally don’t think of acting as work, I guess, because it’s so hard to succeed at it. And you know, aside from that, there’s a lot luck, just being in the right place at the right time.

Rodney: But you know what, I say this about luck, with luck.. it’s a lot of definitions for the word luck in this industry. And I mean, I guess I was lucky and fortunate because I’ve been working steadily since I was 18 years old.

My dad: But what sets you apart from everyone else?

Rodney: I don’t know. That’s exactly what my dad said, 10,000 other actors who are just as good, if not better, you know and this is when I was younger.

My dad: You know it’s not like Barry Bonds, there aren’t many people who can hit a baseball like he can.

Rodney: Right, well it’s kind of the same thing as that..

My dad: because there are a lot of people who can act.

Rodney: But no it’s not, you see, everyone’s different. Everyone has a different something and you can be the best actor in the world and still not work.

My dad: Right, well that’s what I mean, that’s where the luck comes in.

Rodney: It’s all image. And I think it’s just, for me, I think it’s just keeping my head on straight, just really…. just rolling. And I guess I was in the right place at the right time, I mean I went to Juilliard for two years. Only for two years though. So it was kind of like..

My dad: But you know, it tells you something about your talent, the fact that you got in though…

Rodney: Well, at the age that I did too. You see, because they all in the acting division, they only except sometimes older people, who are older. But I left because to save the money and b) I had gotten a show. And it was kind of like..

My dad: I have a show, what’d I need you for anymore?

Rodney: Well no, I just didn’t have the money, I needed the money, you know, and it was a lot of other personal things too and I wanted to do this.. and this show they thought was going to go off broadway, and it was supposed to, but it never did.. it never even made it out of previews or anything. Did I tell you this story?

Me: For what show?

Rodney: Bring In The Morning? With Lauryn Hill. Yea. And we all were like ‘Yea!’ and it just didn’t do anything and that was my first paid tour, I mean my manager at times, she was like ‘oh you’re gonna go to LA! You’re gonna audition for tv shows!’ But it was just like ‘BUT I want to’ and this was my choice, I said, I want to stay in New York and mold my craft and any chance I’m going to take is not… because I look at this industry as high school. Where you go from one grade to the next and it’s not..

My dad: What’s your upper grade though? I mean what’s your graduate school?

Rodney: I’ve graduated already, you know…

My dad: But it seems most successful movie and tv actors, some of them eventually end up on broadway. It seems to be the ultimate, for everybody.

Rodney: It is the ultimate but at the same time people don’t treat it, it’s like now….

My dad: But I think it’s the pay check, that’s why, compare a movie pay check…

Rodney: It’s great.

My dad: To a major star in the movies gets…

Rodney: Absolutely, but movies don’t even much. You know, it’s the kind of funny, people think that they do but it’s television where the money’s at. That is where the money’s at, that’s where the security is..

My dad: The residuals.

Rodney: You live off that, and like, I did a lot of commercials when I was younger so it’s like… I mean, like I just said, in Rent, they treated Rent…

My dad: You came along at the right time. A generation earlier and they get nothing.

Rodney: Absolutely, absolutely. And Rent became a hit like all of a sudden, and like, the original cast went in as producers and we all have a share in all of that so you know… we’re fine! You know what I mean? But I guess that was luck and I guess that was me being in the right place at the right time. I had always made my own choices and I didn’t want anyone else telling me what choices I should do. And… originally with Rent.. I had the opportunity to do this tv show, a national tour, $305 a week show, Rent. You know, off-off broadway, in New York. And I said, I’m gonna take this. Because it’s back in New York and before hand I was just doing plays, so I said I want people to know I can sing, you know, and I took that and it happened. But there’s a lot of.. you know, and I made a lot of decisions that people were like ‘what the hell are you doing?’ you know.

My dad: Because you didn’t go straight for the money.

Rodney: Well, yea, and I’ve always been like that. And a lot of my friends are like.. stars. Ya know, they are … like now the respect that. You know, cause at first they were like ‘Dude you’re so good!’ or whatever, you know? Um, well it’s like, you know what I don’t want success to define my art. You know, I just.. I want to take things that I think are good, that I want to work on and I feel proud to work on. That’s why I don’t know what to do sitcoms, you know?

My dad: But some people look down on doing those things, being trapped doing the same thing for 8 years, but some people like the security of it.

Rodney: Besides that, that’s where I’m headed. That’s where.. the hour long tv show, and I would be so comfortable and fine with that because the character changes in each episode and as long as it has good writing then I’ll be ready to say, I want to do television. So therefore, it’s sort of built in stone, because this past year I’ve been in that whole like.. I’ve basically moved up to a whole new level in theatre in sense, because I’m now seeing ‘Whoa, hold on this is a great movie!’ You know, so I’m not nervous anymore. Now I’m not ‘Paul & Others’, I’m not ‘Little Rodney’.

My dad: They know about your talent, they know what to expect from you now.

Rodney: Well, what I’ve tried to do is show that whatever you want me to be I can be. Whatever you think I’m not, I will be. And that’s what I like, I mean that’s what I liked about Rent, I was able to play a whole bunch of different characters, and people were still ‘I don’t know, I don’t get him.’ You know, I never like to play the same thing twice at the same twice. Like Wild Party, well I don’t want to get typed into anything and now I don’t mind, I didn’t want to take the role in Wild Party, not because of Taye, but it was a very similar role to the ‘Paul & Others’ kind of role. You know, like the La Vie Boheme character, I don’t want to do that. I better do Superstar, that I did for an amount of time, and then it closed! And then, but ok, again timing, I turned down Lion King 2001 because I didn’t want to do it, it was the German Company, and then I recently turned down the tour of Chicago in August because I was just kind of like, stunned. You know, I was just kind of like.. ehh, I don’t know…

My dad: It’s kind of like the role was already defined already.

Rodney: Absolutely, and now like the same thing with the Mamma Mia company in Las Vegas to play Skye, but Joe is playing it and I have no qualms about him, but I said ‘nah, it’s been done. I don’t really want to do it and I don’t want to live in Las Vegas.’ But it was an honor to get offered that role and it’s funny because the other two people auditioning for the role was an Asian kid and a white kid.. for one role… I’m like the only black kid in here, and I’m actually Spanish, but… you know? I mean, no one would know!

Me: You turned down Hairspray.

Rodney: Yea, well that was way back too. But that was kind of just like an insecure turndown. That wasn’t a turndown like ‘ohhhh I don’t want to do this show.’ That was kind of like a turning down of being insecure after Golden Boy. And thinking ‘Oh I’m gonna be horrible in it so why do it?’ That’s what that turn down was!

My dad: You might just feel that wasn’t for you.

Rodney: Also, and I took a break, I took like 5 months off and it was much needed, because remember, I had always been acting, so I just.. I went to baseball games.. I did anything, like anyone would do. You know, and I actually got a job at Target and like.. for like two weeks. And like.. until someone said ‘Ahhh it’s that-‘ and I was just like ‘OK it’s time to go.’ Cause I just wanted to know what the other side was like. And I hate service, you know when people are rude and stuff, and I said ‘you know if I was working there..’ and one of my friends said ‘well why don’t you?’ And I said, ‘You know what? I am!’ And I had never had any working experience related and I didn’t put anything on there as far as what I’d done, anything. And I got hired on my own merit. And it was just a great feeling to know that like, they like me just because of me and nothing to do with anybody else. You know, and I got promoted like my first week, cause they were like ‘why are you so nice??’ and I said ‘well because they’re customers, you know, and they’re paying money, you know, so why are you being anything but?’ You know and..

My dad: The point is though, you didn’t have to be there. It’s kind of like if I go and take a class at Stony Brook, it’s kind of like, I want to. You see the kids in there who are all ‘oh god.’ Because they have to be there, I don’t. You know, you were doing it because you want to .

Rodney: That makes sense, cause I don’t think I’d ever end up doing that permanently. And I said ‘no you know what….’ Cause I know I’d just.. I really just get like.. I have to keep going. Cause I’ll get bored real fast. So that’s that. And in my off time, I did a bachelor class where I direct.. I directed, um, ‘Ordinary People’ which I kind of rewrote with the author and in the fall I directed college students and I just loved it. Cause you just love the experience of it and love working with them. So I like to give back anytime that I can.

Me: Um, I just want to know, why did- when you were in Rent, why did your agents have you lie about your age?

Rodney: Ooohh God. That was a whole like, thing. Now they don’t really view…

Me: Because I was really confused about your age for a while…

Rodney: I was really confused for a while! I started getting confused. But because this industry is uh, youth driven. And they couldn’t just except the fact that… that you just look younger.. I was 22.. I had just turned 22! And they were like- I thought that was young, but they were like ‘well you know, why don’t you say you’re like 17! Cause it’ll make it.. better!’ you know? And I was just like ‘ok’. Actually, it started off as fluke cause we were in one interview, well like a picture, and they were pumping us up saying that we were all like late-teen’s, which was far from the truth, you know, and I was the youngest one and like, they were like ‘the youngest person’s like 17!’ and that’s how it all started and like my agents said ‘well you know..’ And I was like ‘Ehh..’ But see as actors, you have to do that, you go on auditions, they’re not allowed to ask you your age, actually.

My dad: You know, when we’re interviewing someone for a job, we can’t ask them their age.

Rodney: Yea, you know. You can’t and so as actors we’re trained to like, ‘what age do you want me to be?’ I mean, and it sounds so superficial, but.. Am I right Cecilia?

Cecilia: I'm sorry?

Rodney: Like, actors like, in a sense, I don’t want to say trained, but worked into this thing of ‘what age do you want me to be?’ You know what I mean?

Cecilia: Yea, I say that’s true. I mean, you know, you’re an age range not an age.

Rodney: Yea, she was asking me why my agents wanted me to lie about my age way back, and I said, well you know.. You know what I mean?

Cecilia: Yeah.

Rodney: It’s a hard thing.

Cecilia: A lot of actors don’t like to admit their age because they’re afraid they’ll think you think ‘oh they’re 30.. what’s 25 or 35?’ or whatever you might play.

Rodney: Absolutely.

Cecilia: And say you have to act whatever age range is on there..

Rodney: It’s a weird thing. You know, now I just say I’m 28. Cause I don’t care anymore. You know what I mean? Like, what defines that.

My dad: Well it seems like entertainment is the only industry that can be out right discriminatory, whether it’s age, race, appearance, whatever. Disney is notorious, even in theme parks, their employees are all cast members, they’re not employees. So they can tell them, we want you to look exactly this way and they can’t be held legally responsible. Because we expect you to look a certain way to work.

Rodney: This whole industry, it’s excruciating just getting up and that’s why I kinda didn’t like LA and doing the tv show cause you have to always be on, you have to get up, and guys you know, normally we just get up, you know but, no, I just like get up, and know you have to wait, and like everythings swelled, you know, and you’re kinda like ‘ok, ok’ You know what I mean. As an actor in real life, I have to get up, just earlier, so you know just so everything can cellulite, you know things that girls do, but without the make up. But you have to like get all those products and like, get that facial stuff, cause I have like, I just brought like this Pro Active stuff, you know like, just to make sure, your skin is a certain way or this is a certain way and it’s so much, you know? And.. it’s just so much. That you just don’t go into thinking. You know, and you have to maintain an image, you have maintain an appearance, so now, at 28, one day I’ll just kind of like dress really preppy and the next day I’ll just be like East Village, I don’t know. And before I used to go through these phases, where one year I’d be like skate board kid, you know, and next year.. you know I was still trying to find me… and now that I know who I am, it’s so much easier. And I think it shows up in my work too. You know, that I’m there, I’m not.. I don’t worry cause I used to worry SO much.

My dad: Do they base it on who you are or just like a talent?

Rodney: From being behind the table, basically somebody could be so right for the role and so not look right. Or in an orchestra of voices, ones that and ones that. It’s so much to do. People are always like ‘oh wasn’t that so much fun?? You guys are making it so much fun!’ And you really wanna say no. You wanna say ‘It was a lot of work. I’m so tired.’ You just wanna say that, you know? But we have an obligation to not do that because if the people who look up to you in a way, they’re not gonna take it as a reality, they’re gonna take it as ‘oh well if that was me I’d have a lot of fun.’ You know what I mean? And so you kind of owe that, but then again it’s me, it’s like… so I try to find a balance of it’s a lot of fun but it’s also a lot of work, that’s what I say. I mean it is fun, but everyone thinks that acting is just like you wanna be seen or that ‘ohh this person is the center of attention’…. And actually. I mean, I know my friends, some of my friends were like celebrities you know, it’s so interverted, you know, it’s so like ‘I hate the celebrities’. I mean, I guess everyone has different opinions, but I feel most people when I’m on stage, because when I’m just being me and talking, I’m a mess! I mean, I’m like, in a good way.