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Update January 2006

"Ernie's problem" Written by Ernie.

I have just been reminded of Mark 4:v25 "Whoever has will be given more: whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him."
Perhaps this could be read as "Whoever has (the Holy Spirit, which is your assurance of your salvation) will be given more: whoever does not have (the Holy Spirit), even what he has will be taken from him (ie his salvation and its rewards)."

The continuing account of an unpleasant experience I have had.
One night I partly woke up, on my left side, and a vision came into my right eye only, and I saw a door hinged on the left, swing silently slowly open, towards me, with a dimly lit hallway at right angles to me. The door was fully open for about five seconds and I felt as if something sneaked out, but nothing was visible. I hoped that something good would come in but it was not so. Then the door silently slowly closed.

It took a few days to ponder this, and I realised that what went out was the tormentor. It had done its dastardly deed and completely isolated my spirit so I could no longer communicate with it. During the first two to three months of this problem I had contact with the holy spirit which was in me, and also my own eternal spirit, and my mind, like myself and two people I could refer to. At that time all three of us knew that we two had never criticised the Holy Spirit, and could not understand why God had attacked me. There was a place in my chest where there seemed to be a warm friendly feeling when contacting the Holy Spirit, but after this time when there was reason to contact the Holy Spirit to rejoice, such as hearing on the radio someone's testimony of their salvation, I could feel the panic of my spirit as it tried to contact the Holy Spirit at the usual place within me. It was no longer there and it caused me some physical pain at that particular point and sometimes nearly made me cry (but I can't as my emotions lockup before that ). After this event with the door this hasn't happened.

I can't feel my eternal spirit and I believe it has been isolated and it cannot transmit to try to contact the Holy Spirit, or cause any disturbance in the spiritual realm. This worries me as at present I can still remember that I had not criticised the Holy Spirit, and as far as I knew hadn't done anything in particular wrong, though I may not have been as effective as I should have been, but without the backup of my spirit on judgement day will my memory be sufficient to stand against whatever accusation God has against me, has God destroyed my evidence so that whatever He says becomes truth as there is no significant evidence against it? (this is reasoning as a human-being, not as a spirit-filled believer should)
The reason I described the door is because I cannot remember being in a bedroom with that layout, so it wasn't from my mind.

About the middle of November I realised what had been done was the fulfilment of what was prayed over me on an alter call about February. I went up for prayer because problems of not sleeping. Basically it was that God was dismantling the house (me) to rebuild it the way he wanted to. What dismayed me was that he tore up the entire foundations, removing the Holy Spirit, leaving me very distressed.
I now realised that He had rebuilt a very small place just big enough for me, with a cupboard somewhere just big enough for my spirit to be locked up in, keeping it from communicating with me or God, and no room for the Holy Spirit. The future is not looking good.
At this stage I still could not understand what had gone wrong.

I will put this on the web because I want to warn people that there is a God to answer to, and even if you are saved there are dangers, as in Galatians chapter 5, v16-21. Also that those who say there is no God, and that we are here because of evolution, are in serious trouble, because they have believed the lies of our enemy, even though there is sufficient proof that the Bible is totally true, particularly in the prophesies that have, and are coming true, now that Gods chosen people are back in the promised land. There definitely is a spiritual realm, and you need to repent and be filled with the Holy Spirit, but watch out for the evil spirits that would draw you away from the standards set out in the Bible, and into alternative lifestyles that are abhorrent to God.

Some say that Israel was replaced by the christians, but the Bible makes it clear that they were only set aside until the time of the christian dominance was over, (Romans 11 v25) and the Jews came back into the promised land.

Early in December it suddenly came to my mind as if from someone else, hopefully God, as a statement that was certainly true, that the problem was that what I had written had been misinterpreted and taken as if I personally had threatened some Jews that things would become worse for Israel.

What had actually happened was that I read some of the minor prophets (one example below) which indicated that things would become worse until their Messiah has to come to save Israel, perhaps I was not careful enough to make it clear that it was God's prophesies that I was referring to. It is also probable that some or most Jews are still anti-christian, and are eager to back-up their attitude by reading the worst possible meaning into any communication from christians. I said I was a christian, and grateful to the Jews for keeping God's word, gave my name address phone number and signed it, which I wouldn't have done if not intending to be friendly.

I was only expressing what the prophets said about the end times. Perhaps Jews either don't know their minor prophets, and others such as Daniel, or don't realise that this is the time spoken of when they have re-gathered in Israel, and they are expecting everything to go well. If everything was going well then why would their Messiah have to come to save them?

Actually the world will become worse for everyone, as the one world government takes control, and the one unified church tries to stamp out any true worship of the God of Creation and the Bible. The aim is to force everyone into a satanic form of worship that embraces eastern religions, ( who cannot accept that there is a defined beginning and a ending as in the Bible), muslims ( who cannot accept that Christ is the Son of God, essential in christianity) witchcraft, humanism, and nominal churches that accept moral standards that are strictly forbidden in original true renderings of the Bible, an incompatible mix. There are already versions of the Bible published that make out that some sins, and referring to God as "she" and mother earth worship are all OK, but it is God the Father you have to face up to. I believed what God said, in prophesy about our time and the near future, and I referred to what he said, so he clobbered me!
Perhaps he took the word, or prayer of the complainant and didn't check the facts. The world is a dangerous place!
Perhaps God is too quick to find fault, or is looking for some reason to discredit and dump anyone who falls short. Be careful because you don't know how strict a line he will take and for how little an error he will dump you.

A brief outline of one of many references to the present and future of our times:-

Zechariah Ch 12v2, Jerusalem a cup that sends the surrounding people reeling. (only 6 million people with the worlds second largest media gathering to collect news)
V9, Destroy all nations that attack Jerusalem. (not happening yet, as only the muslim fundamentalists are attacking)
V10, The one they have pierced.
Ch 13 v8, Two thirds struck down and perish. NIV. (I think this refers to Israel, as the reference is "in the land". If not then the attacking nations). 2/3 he doesn't seem to mean "move to heaven" ie saved, perhaps he is playing rough and unrelenting. Could it mean reducing the land to 1/3, and therefor the population perhaps, but "perish" and "die" rule that out.
The King James Version is:" V8: And it shall come to pass that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die: but the third shall be left therein". If he is going to be that hard on those he loves, ie: the apple of his eye, then how hard will he be on the half-baked christians world-wide?
Ch 14 v2. Will gather all nations to fight against Israel. (All nations, that is going to be stressful)
V3. Then the Lord fights.
V4. Stands on Mount of Olives, splitting it in two.
V5. The Jews flee.
V6. The Jews get their Messiah.
V12. Notable characteristic's of war against attacking nations, (similar to atomic war).
V16. Everyone comes to worship.
V17. Punishment of nations that don't worship.
Ch 12 v2 is getting underway now.
You may have the Holy Spirit but not actually realise that he is there as a separate entity, as he seems a lot like yourself, another conscience. I had tried to get to speak in tongues, but each time just when it felt as if something was about to happen it seemed that God pulled the plug and all feelings disappeared, very discouraging. I eventually gave up for a couple of years, but then it was happening just the same, and I gave up over embarrassment of often coming for the same thing, and not making any progress.
If you got a better working relationship through the Holy Spirit you would better understand the value of the relationship. When you have known and the lost the relationship it leaves such a void that it is painfully obvious that there is a spiritual realm and you have lost contact. Worship of God is now just me, instead of me, my eternal spirit and God's Holy Spirit all three, in unison.

Because I can't find out the actual cause of the problem it leaves several possible causes.
1. I hadn't done enough with what I had been given. Marriage problems dragged me down, and I couldn't find a fix so was semi-depressed and not inclined to be talkative. Besides I could not find out what was required.
2. Because of depression and problems I may have run foul of Galatians Ch 5 v19-21 minor things like discord, rage, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, orgies and the like.
3. Something I wrote may have been grossly misinterpreted, perhaps because I wasn't careful enough with the wording, or perhaps because I got something wrong from lack of knowledge of what is happening in the invisible spiritual realm. No offence was meant, but perhaps the recipients or God see it differently.
4. I am not talkative and may not have established a good enough relationship through pray, as most of my thinking is technical workshop type stuff.
5. I did something in the spiritual realm that God didn't tell me to do, ( wrote a letter).

What I am hoping is:-
6. This could be a job type of experience, a test to see what I really believe, and which way I will go.
See Rev 2v10 devil tries... as he did with Job.

7. An experience to be able to explain to others the dreadful eternal danger they are faced with if they hold out against God, and ignore their salvation.
Also read Revelation Ch 2 and 3 the letters to the churches. These problems are relevant and prevalent in the churches today, they also apply to you personally. Make sure you are not falling short as people in those churches were. I was struck by Rev Ch3 v3 and its possible application of "I will come like a thief" meaning "I will come suddenly and take what you have" could mean taking Holy Spirit, salvation etc, as God is concerned mainly with the spiritual realm, that is, he doesn't want your material possessions.

I still go to church and read the bible, and still absolutely convinced the bible and all it's prophesies are true and the remaining ones will come to pass. But I know what is missing:- the Holy Ghost and my eternal spirit can't be found.


Regards,
Ernie.


PS.

Pray for the Jews, they need understanding and determination.
In giving up Gaza, they have encouraged the suicide bombers who believe that it is because of their murders that Israel has given up the land, and they want more, all of it in fact.
Rockets are being fired from Gaza, giving a better range of targets. The radicle muslims have for years sworn to destroy Israel and take the land for allah, so things will be getting worse until the 7 year peace agreement gives a brief peace, for 3.5 years.
Pray that your nation will stand on Israel's side, least God punishes it more heavily in the eventual battle.

I am sorry for Ariel Sharon, at present in Jerusalem's Hadassah hospital in an extremely grave condition after suffering a massive stroke & brain hemmorrhage, and can't understand the muslims wanting him dead, as he is the only Israeli leader who has softened up and given land with no agreement of anything in return, probably much to God's disgust. I pray that he will live to see the outworking of his decisions.

Regards,
Ernie.

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