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". . . music first of all has to be peaceful, joyful, harmonic and the words have to make you think and not to raise the hate and violence in you. You have the responsibility when you’re a musician not to do that. So all my anger is all in the music but I turn it all in a positive way because I believe in human beings more than anything else because we are capable of doing the best for the world.” ~A. Kidjo 

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NEW: Interview

UPDATED 1/29/06


Hi! I'm Kim. I'm so glad you could visit OREMI FOREVER. This website is for you, the fans and friends of Angelique Kidjo. The site name was inspired by Angelique's fifth album titled Oremi, "my friend." I hope you will enjoy your journey through the site. The site is updated regularly, so be sure to stop by often to learn the latest on Angelique.

After I saw Angelique live at the House of Blues in 1998, I decided to start a newsletter and called it OREMI FOREVER. In August 1999, I decided I would create a webpage as my tribute to Angelique, my thank you to her for her warmth, sincerity, and her generosity in sharing her world with all of us. Meeting Angelique in March 2002 was my greatest reward! I spent about 10 minutes with her and two band members backstage before her performance. Talking with her confirmed everything I've always believed about her. She's a very warm, loving individual. She is and will always be "my friend forever." 

Who is
Angelique Kidjo?
ahn-ge-LEEK kih-joe

Angelique Kidjo was born in Benin, West Africa. She studied to become a lawyer of human rights but then decided she could better help people through music. She moved to Paris due to the political situation in Benin. While in Paris, she attended a jazz school. This is where she met her future husband, Jean Hebrail, who collaborates with her. They now live in New York and Paris. They have a 13-year-old daughter, Naïma, whose voice you hear on "Loloye" on Oremi. Angelique speaks and sings in several languages, including Fon, Yoruba, Mina, French, and English. She has eight albums, the latest being Oyaya!, the final part of her trilogy, which celebrates the African roots of Latin and Caribbean music. Her new CD is due out May 1, 2007.

Thank You

Angelique - without you this site would not exist!
Rubens de La Corte - for your kindness and help in keeping me informed.
Impact Artist Management - without you I wouldn't have met Angelique.


To all who have taken the time to visit this site and sign the guestbook, thanks very much for your support and kind words. I appreciate you all.


If you have a Kidjo event you'd like me to help promote on this site, such as a concert or Radio/TV appearance, let me know. I will be more than happy to help out.
If any current or former band members wish to have their own projects promoted, please don't hesitate to let me know. I'd love to help you guys out, too!



Now you can listen to Angelique's "Djin Djin" in its entirety before its release May 1.


Tour Dates
Additional dates can be found




appearing with Josh Groban
Thursday, 5/3/07 Boulder, CO Boulder Theater
Thursday, 5/10/07 Arcata, CA John Van Duzer Theatre
Friday, 5/11/07 Santa Cruz, CA Rio Theatre
Saturday, 5/12/07 San Francisco, CA Herbst Theatre
Wednesday, 5/16/07 New York, NY B.B. King's Blues Club
Thursday, 5/17/07 Washington, DC Lisner Auditorium
Friday, 5/18/07 New York, NY B.B. King's Blues Club
Saturday, 5/19/07 Somerville, MA Somerville Theatre
Sunday, 5/20/07 Wilmington, DE Grand Opera House




Kidjo News


Angelique at MySpace

Angelique has an additional home at MySpace. Come on over and take a look! And if you have a profile, be sure to request an add so you can drop her a line.

I'm there, too.


Angelique Kidjo to
Perform Live on WFUV


Angelique Kidjo will be performing at an upcoming WFUV Marquee Members Show and live broadcast on Tuesday, May 1st at The Cutting Room in New York City. 

Starting at 8pm on May 1st, the show will be broadcast LIVE on 90.7FM WFUV in the New York area, and will be streamed LIVE worldwide at




On May 1st, Razor & Tie and Starbucks Entertainment will co-release DJIN DJIN (pronounced "gin gin"), the new album by international music star and UNICEF goodwill ambassador Angelique Kidjo.  Produced by the legendary Tony Visconti (David Bowie, Morrissey, T. Rex), DJIN DJIN finds the Benin-born Kidjo partnering with such luminaries as Josh Groban, Alicia Keys, Peter Gabriel, Carlos Santana, Joss Stone and Ziggy Marley to create an album which is truly global in scope.  Other special guests on the album include Amadou and Mariam and Branford Marsalis.  The CD will be available simultaneously at Starbucks Company-operated locations in the U.S. and Canada as well as traditional retail.

Inspired by the traditions and culture of Kidjo's native Benin in West Africa, the title of the album refers to the sound of the bell that greets the beginning of a new day for Africa.  Similar to Kidjo's recent works, DJIN DJIN finds Angelique singing in her native languages as well as in English and French.  As a child, Kidjo was mesmerized by an iconic album cover of Jimi Hendrix, which led her to follow the African roots of music from the United States, Brazil and the Carribean.  The results were the Grammy-nominated trilogy of albums, OREMI, BLACK IVORY SOUL and OYAYA.  On DJIN DJIN, Angelique returns to her Beninese roots, building an album around the most traditional rhythms from her country.  With the help of accomplished West African musicians, she recorded DJIN DJIN at Jimi Hendrix's Electric Lady Studio in New York City.

Angelique's dream was to invite a group of musical friends to step into her world so that they could share the richness and beauty of her culture.  Each of the guests holds a special place in Kidjo's heart not only for their incredible musicianship, but for their unique connections to Africa.  Artists such as Peter Gabriel and Alicia Keys have been tireless in their charitable work for various African causes.  Carlos Santana told Kidjo that his music has always been inspired by the music of Africa.

One of the album's stand-out tracks is a cover of Sade's moving "Pearls", a duet between Kidjo and Josh Groban that includes the signature guitar work of Carlos Santana.  Groban was so impressed by Kidjo that he asked her to be the sole support for his entire upcoming North American tour.  Of Kidjo, Groban stated, "I have been a fan of Angelique's for many years now.  Her voice, her spirit, the way she connects is awe-inspiring and I'm so honored to have collaborated with her.  She also has a wicked sense of humor and I am positive our time together on tour will be a blast." The trek kicks off on February 17th in Verona, NY at Turning Stone Events Center.

Angelique Kidjo began performing in the Beninese port village of Cotonou.  The political turmoil in her country led her to pursue her career in Paris, the capital of world music.  There, Kidjo's striking voice and stage presence, and her fluency in multiple cultures and languages won her respect from her peers and expanded her following across national borders.  It also earned her access to activists who sensed humanitarian passion in the words of her songs, resulting in her long-term dedication to global charity work.

Kidjo has traveled far, mesmerizing audiences on countless stages, speaking out on behalf of the children in her capacity as a UNICEF goodwill ambassador.  Now with DJIN DJIN and the return to her musical roots, Kidjo has truly closed the circle in her life as she brings international artists to the musical world of her native country.

DJIN DJIN track listing:

  1. Ae Ae
  2. Djin Djin featuring Alicia Keys and Branford Marsalis
  3. Gimme Shelter featuring Joss Stone
  4. Salala featuring Peter Gabriel
  5. Senamou featuring Amadou and Mariam
  6. Pearls featuring Josh Groban and Carlos Santana
  7. Sedjedo featuring Ziggy Marley
  8. Papa
  9. Arouna
  10. Awan N'La
  11. Emma
  12. Mama Golo Papa
  13. Lonlon (Ravel's Bolero)


Angelique in the studio!

Angelique Kidjo Calls
for Children First in the
Fight Aginst HIV in Africa


UNICEF goodwill ambassador
stunned by drought in N. Kenya


Benin: Music Lets Me See Beyond Color, Beyond Language - Angelique Kidjo

Gaddiel Baah
Washington, DC

Angelique Kidjo, one of Africa's most prolific and best known artistes, is from Benin in West Africa. She started singing at age six, producing songs that span music genres and language categories, and has nine albums to her credit. She performed at the 2006 Francophonie Festival in Washington, D.C. in March and discusses her career in music with AllAfrica's Gaddiel Baah.

You said on stage that you had a passion for music. What explains this passion?

If you can find somebody who can explain to you their passion for something, then you can explain to me. Passion is something that you can not really explain. I am happy when I am singing and I love it. Being on stage and being able to speak to people who come from different parts of the world who do not [speak] the same language is a joy for me.

I have been in contact with music since I was a child because my mother was a theater director and a choreographer and my brother also used to play music in the seventies when I was a child. My passion for music is also the ability that music gives me to see beyond people's color, see beyond people's languages. The barrier of language does not stop me because when it comes to music, we speak the same language. My passion for human relationships is part of the passion that music allows me to express.

Would you want to talk a little bit about your recent album Oyaya?

Oyaya is part of the trilogy that I started back in 1997, by tracing back the roots of slavery through music. I learnt a lot and there are certain rhythms that left my country Benin and the west coast of Africa that are in some places such as Bahia and Cuba and by extension are in many other places I have been to that are really still the same, centuries later, that have not been altered at all. I was in Brazil and it is a very weird feeling sitting there and they are singing in your language and you know that after that song, they cannot speak your language. The language is even more accurate than what we sing in Benin.

You learn that one of the positive legacies of slavery is music. If the slaves had not been in America, we would not have had R & B, we would not have had rock and roll, funk, salsa, etc. It is amazing to see how music, throughout the history of humankind, has helped human beings to keep hope and their dignity and to continue existing in a very hostile environment.

Which of your albums would you call your favorite?

I love all of them. I take time to do my albums and some take more time than others but if I don't love the songs, I am not going to sing them. On stage, if I don't love a song, I can not sing it. Every time I release an album, I spend at least two solid years on it. How can you sing something that you don't like in two years?

You sing in several languages. Has this always been the case?

It has always been like that.

What influences your choice of language?

Most of the time, it is the music itself. If I wake up in the morning and the music that I have is still in my head, I have to sing it. When I started singing in Benin, I sang music in the indigenous language, of course. But I also sang in Cameroonian and Zairian languages, and many other languages from Africa but I copy them phonetically. And then you have English too, and Spanish and Portuguese, and many different languages. The thing that matters to me is the beauty of the song, how it makes me feel happy and how I can give it back to people.

It often happens that musicians blossom early and quickly but whither just as fast. What accounts for your relative longevity?

I don't know. I will say I always take risks, I always try different things. I always follow my inspiration and it is easy because sometimes my inspiration is not in fashion but I am not trying to be in fashion. I am trying to say things that mean a lot to me and to be true to it, to have fun while I am doing it, and to be able to give that joy and strength to people.

Your music is a blend of genres, funk, R & B, etc. What exactly do you sing?

You are talking about R & B and funk. Where do they come from? They came from Africa with the slaves. The music that I am doing, the roots always go back to Africa. Why should we African artists be stuck in one genre of music while we have been influencing the music of the world one or two centuries back?

For how long have you been a Unicef Goodwill Ambassador?

Four years now.

What does the position entail?

First of all, people have to realize that there is no money in being a goodwill ambassador. It is about passion and commitment.

I have a lot of passion for my continent because I know the potential in my continent that has been wasted over the years. We have to do something and if we Africans don't start doing it, don't start thinking about a better future for our children and have a say in decisions that are taken, we can't keep on blaming other people.

Being a Goodwill Ambassador for Unicef allows me to be able to help with my knowledge of Africa, for them to understand how to approach their programs for children, how to approach the women, to convince the mothers, fathers to send their daughters, their kids to school.

We are now talking about elections but do people know what the act of voting means when they go and vote? Do you vote for somebody who comes from your region or you vote for a political program?

Part of being a Unicef Goodwill Ambassador is to convince people that there is more value in going to school than not going to school. And girls' education is my passion and commitment to Unicef. Everywhere I go, on stage, I speak to the girls. I speak to the people and let them know that I am available and through Unicef, they can speak to me. If I don't have the solution, I ask the Unicef people how we can make things work in the country, who we can talk to to get answers.

I always encourage the people of Africa that any program that comes to Africa, they have to be part of it. When I spoke at the State Department on behalf of Unicef, I mentioned that everything that is done in Africa, they have to incorporate the African people into it because they have to be responsible for their own lives. They must know that when you come with a program, once you leave, the program must survive. We have to learn to deal with our needs without taking all the money and putting it in our pockets.

Could you share some of your experiences as a Goodwill Ambassador?

My experiences have been both very positive and painful. When you are facing children who have nothing and you see in the same country members of government who have more than they can use, you feel embarrassed because you are with people who see the same reality.

How can we Africans allow our kids to be so vulnerable? I know poverty is great in Africa. But there is poverty everywhere. Does poverty mean we have to lose our dignity and our pride and not be able to feed our children? What kind of politician can do that, because they are parents too.

Working with Unicef has allowed me to see another face of Africa that I have never seen before: how people at different levels are fighting poverty, HIV/Aids, rape, etc.

The women in Africa are really strong. How much pain can we take before we realize that if we want our countries and our continent to stand, we have to start thinking about working hard and keeping what belongs to us in our hand? Doing business with other people is good but we cannot do business and lose everything. It is not for a small minority to make money while the majority continues to suffer. We cannot continue like that, begging left and right for help. There are potentialities in Africa, humanly and materially.

We are in the 21st century and in Africa it is still like we are in the 17th century because of corruption [and] lack of energy. If I had not been with Unicef traveling so much, I would not have seen all those things. I would have continued blaming somebody else for our problems but our problems [are] 80 percent our responsibility because of the way we do business.

We cannot achieve democracy or any economic progress without education. By traveling and working closely with Unicef, I have come to realize that the HIV/Aids pandemic also has to do with the lack of education, in addition to poverty.

How does your music raise some these issues?

My music expresses these things very much. Since the beginning I have been talking about poverty even before people realized poverty was part of HIV/Aids. People are willing to help Africa but are Africans willing to help ourselves? That is the question, and in my lyrics I have said that. Why is it that in some countries in Africa we put people in jail because they do not agree with the government that is in power?

My music has been there to just speak about all the problems we have in Africa. I have spoken about HIV/Aids, I have spoken about feminine genital mutilation, etc. There are good and bad traditions in Africa and the ones that are bad for us, we need to have the courage to face them and make them disappear.

You have been involved in charity concerts like Roll Back Malaria, Keep a Child Alive Foundation Concert, We are the Future Concert, etc. Is there a particular reason for your involvement in these causes?

The reason is that the world is changing and we in Africa are the ones who are still being taken advantage of. Why? I believe in human beings [more] than in anything else. And more and more, I am seeing the interconnections that we have. Nature has proved to us lately that if you do not take care of something that is happening somewhere, it is going to come to your backyard. Nature is changing, the weather is changing, everything is changing. One thing that is a constant is between all those elements is the human being. We should, during our lifetime, spend energy, talent and time to make people aware of that. We are the future, you are the answer.

I am a mother and I want the world in which my child will grow up to be safe, and for that, I have to do something. If I have the capacity to do something and I don't do it, then it is not fair.

Have any other musicians or artists inspired you over the years?

A lot. One of the two major female artists who really inspired me in Africa, who gave me the strength to do what I am doing today, are Miriam Makeba and Bella Bellow. Their voices are beautiful and they were not doing music that people would expect Africans to do. They would do the music that they loved, that you can still listen to today, especially Bella Bellow, very rich and very modern. It is a reality that when you come from Africa and you are an artist, people are expecting you to sound a certain way, while artists from other parts of the world do not have to deal with that burden. From them, I learnt that when you are inspired to do music, just do it.

Ali Farka Toure passed away recently. What can you say about him and his contribution to music?

Ali was a good friend of mine and a great human being and I am going to miss him. I already miss him right now because we had been making plans for me to go to his village and my crazy schedule never allowed me to go. I have a lot respect for Ali because he is one of those rare musicians from Africa and every time we meet, he is so happy to see me and encourages me to continue doing what I am doing with no jealousy whatsoever. He is an amazing artist and his contribution to African music is going to live long after his death.

What should your fans expect from you next?

Oh boy! You are asking me a question as if I was God. I don't know. I will always do the music that I love. I am writing some songs still. Once they are ready, I am going to let you guys know. It is all going to be Angelique Kidjo music.

Any final words for your fans?

They are the ones who have kept me going all this while. I want to thank them for always being there and always letting me know how much they love the music. Even the ones who don't love my music, I take into account what they say.

I want the youth, especially in Africa, [to know that] the future is bright if they think about it and they do what they want to do without making excuses. Give yourself the chance to do it the best possible and wait for the outcome.

I am always going to be there for my continent and I am always going to be there for every human being in need because we really need to work together. We really need to love one another more than ever because today the world is in danger. Hatred is getting more and more disciples and the danger I see is much more in that regard than in anything else.

I will ask my fans to continue supporting me and other African artists because without support we will not exist anymore. As the African continent is not seen as a market for the record business, the people we have that can really support us and keep us going are the fans and the African public, wherever we go in the world. I am just thankful that they come to our concerts.

The music that I am doing is for the African continent and for the whole world. Everybody is welcome to my music so let us be a big happy family.


Herbie Hancock's Possibilities
features a track by Santana and Angelique Kidjo titled "Safiatou."

Click here for footage!
The rest of the CD is awesome! It features jazz tracks by artists like Sting, covering his "Sister Moon." It also features a slowed-down version of "I Just Called to Say I Love You." I am listening to the disc now. Its release date is August 30.

I was watching the news while drifting off to sleep when suddenly this CD was advertised. There was no mention of Santana or AK. But I liked what I heard. Being a subscriber of Rhapsody, I typed in Herbie Hancock, hoping the CD would show up, and it did. I had to look twice to see Santana and AK's name. I just about died. Funny how I'm led to her music in the strangest ways and in the middle of the night. I say if you like jazz, this CD is for you. If you have Rhapsody on your computer, you may listen to it from there before you decide to buy.


We Want You to Say
by Sakesho

Angelique lends her vocals to the song "Ewa Belia"


NPR's Tavis Smiley ta with African-born singer Angelique Kidjo about her new CD, Oyaya, and her special blend of world music.

Angelique on NPR's Tavis Smiley
June 17, 2004

Interview: Angelique Kidjo discusses her music

     SMILEY: West African songstress Angelique Kidjo was born in Benin. She sings all kinds of music: African, American, Latin, Caribbean, Brazilian. You name it, she can sing it. She's blessed with a voice that is as charming and as sensual and as powerful as any emerging star on the international scene. Her three Grammy nominations serve as testament to just that. Her new record is called--Angelique, pronounce this for me.
     Ms. KIDJO: Oyaya.
     SMILEY: Oyaya. I like that. And with it I sense another nomination coming. Angelique Kidjo joins me now from Chicago, where we found her on tour. Angelique, nice to have you on the program.
     Ms. KIDJO: Thanks for having me here.
     SMILEY: I'm glad to have you here. That title--say it again.
     Ms. KIDJO: Oyaya.
     SMILEY: Oyaya. What does that mean?
     Ms. KIDJO: It means 'joy' in Yoruba language.
     SMILEY: So you speak Yoruba?
     Ms. KIDJO: Yes, indeed. I do.
     SMILEY: Oh.
     Ms. KIDJO: I speak eight languages, if you want to know.
     SMILEY: Eight. So you sing in every language and you speak every language, practically.
     Ms. KIDJO: Yeah. I try to.
     SMILEY: Tell me what that does for your music? What does it do for your music when you are able to sing and speak so many different languages? Doesn't that really, really challenge you on every project?
     Ms. KIDJO: For me, what is the most difficult part is to have the right inspiration. Once you have the right inspiration, the rest is just a kind of dressing it very well and make it sound good. I hate recording. I have to say, being in a studio is something very painful for me because I come from a live culture. I like to sing live in front of people. And once I get the song, it's hard for me to find the right producer. But this time I found a very good one and a very good arranger that brings all the things that I wanted to say in a very happy and a very positive way. So singing in different languages, it's also very rewarding. But I don't write in English, for example, and in this particular album, since I start having inspiration for writing this album, I have the feeling that I'm still frustrated not being able to sing some of it in English and Spanish, because the first time really that is--I feel that call so urgently in my inspiration to sing in English and in Spanish, and I will only do that if I can find somebody that can get inspired by the sound of my native language and write lyrics in English and Spanish that will sound pretty much close to my language. It will be more, I think, truth to me to sing.
     SMILEY: I've heard your music described in a variety of ways. Everybody's taking a stab at trying to describe and to label what it is that you do. The most interesting one I've read is that your music is a fusion of ancient and modern sounds. How do you describe what it is that you do so well?
     Ms. KIDJO: I call it music simply. All the music that exists on this planet have been brought to me since I was a child. And for me, it was Alice in Wonderland because I can switch from traditional music from my country or from other countries in Africa to The Beatles, to the Rolling Stones, to James Brown, to Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, Carlos Santana; whatever was out there that they were producing, I was singing then. So for me, the music I do basically is based on that. I've been brought to the world with many different type of music from all over the world, so it's very hard for me to label my music because I've been nourished with so many different type of music.
     SMILEY: Speaking of being nourished by so many different types of music, I'm told at least that your experience in Cuba had a pretty big impact on this latest record. True?
     Ms. KIDJO: It is. It does, because one of the reasons I fled my country in 1983 was the communist regime. And I did not like that feeling of not being free to express your art the way you want to and not being free to express your opinion, and somebody's always spying on you. You can't even be free in your own house, because you're always afraid somebody might be a spy. So I fled the country not being able to express my art the way I wanted to and that feeling was still great also in Cuba, but the people in Cuba use music as a weapon, as a freedom weapon. So what I found in Cuba was that music brings the light out of the oldest. I mean, I met some old musicians and as soon as we start playing music, they don't look like their age at all anymore. It seems like--I mean, it's beyond words what I can say here. And also meeting the youth that, despite the embargo, can mix salsa with hip-hop, R&B, jazz and all the music that is out there was something really amazing and very uplifting for me.
     SMILEY: You were scheduled to do a duet with Celia Cruz shortly before she died. You ended up recording the song alone. Tell me what that might have been like, what you expected that experience to be like, to have the chance to record with the late great Celia Cruz.
     Ms. KIDJO: I mean, I sang with her in Paris a couple of years ago and we sang her song, "Kimbara." And I told her that time that she was a great influence also in my life. And she used to call me from that point on (foreign language spoken), 'my black sister.' And we met couple of time at the Grammy nominations and we always laughed a lot. And I told her about this project and she said that sounded interesting. 'And when you get to the Cuba part, if you need me, just holler. I'll be there.' And that took us by surprise. I mean, we propose and God dispose. And for me she's not only a singer, she's an instrumentalist, because what she does with her voice--it's amazing. And that's why I choose that particular rhythm that is called salsa timba that is a mix between jazz and salsa, because I knew that if she was to be with me in the studio, it will be an amazing treat.
     SMILEY: Before I let you go, tell me about the work that you're doing with UNICEF.
     Ms. KIDJO: Oh, that one is--I had been called by UNICEF two years ago to be a goodwill ambassador for UNICEF. And, of course, I did not say no because I always wanted--the children in Africa, they are the future of that continent, and the children of the world are the future of this planet. And we keep on making decisions that endanger their life. When we make a decision to go in war, the ones that pay a huge toll are the children. HIV-AIDS is taking a huge toll on the children of this world, and we cannot sit back and not do anything because, for me, being able to call myself a human being and being able to look at myself in the mirror every day when I wake up and be proud of being who I am, I won't be able to do that if we do not succeed, all of us together, to preserve, to protect, to respect the rights of the children of this world. We have to educate them and we have to really, really look up onto them. And UNICEF is helping greatly on that end to protect our children. Then there's no need to call us--any civilized population or any civilized humankind.
     SMILEY: Angelique Kidjo is an African songstress and international traveler who spreads joy wherever she goes. Her latest CD is called--say it, Angelique.
     Ms. KIDJO: Oyaya, joy.
     SMILEY: I love how you say that.
     Ms. KIDJO: You have to learn how to say that because it's about joy.
     SMILEY: Oyaya.
     Ms. KIDJO: It's Oyaya. Definitely, you see.
     SMILEY: OK.
     Ms. KIDJO: You got it.
     SMILEY: I'll keep working on it.


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recorded before the Pope's death 


Rubens de La Corte has his own website now! On there you will find a bio, photo gallery, listening station, news, links, tour schedule, and contact info. Please show your support for one of AK's band members.

I read on his site that he is working on his own CD. I, for one, am excited to hear this! All the best, Rubens.

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