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PREVIOUS COMMENTARIES HAVE BEEN MOVED TO A COMMENTARY ARCHIVES
"McGwire and Bonds Make 154 v. 162 game HR mark meaningless"
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Ichiro Suzuki approaches Sisler's hits record...or does he?
People are still talking about Ichiro's 2004 hits "record" for 162 games, so I have chosed to leave this "article" on the table for review during the 2005 season :)
Once again we reach a point in baseball history where various "enthusiasts" take comfort in working up a "record breaker" season where no such season exists. Sure, the "thrill" of the chase creates "drama" for Ichiro and Seattle fans, but in reality, the "race" is NOT there! First lets take a quick glance at the season lines for the two players at issue:
| PLAYER NAME...... | GAMES | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS | BA |
| George Sisler - 1920 StLouis | 154 | 631 | 137 | 257 | 49 | 18 | 19 | 122 | 46 | 19 | 42 | 17 | .407 |
| Ichiro Suzuki - 2004 Seattle | 162 | 704 | 101 | 262 | 24 | 5 | 8 | 60 | 49 | 63 | 36 | 11 | .372 |
Definitely an AMAZING season for Ichiro, through 2004 season, Ichiro had more hits, 262, than Sisler! Sisler played in a season of only 154 games, ending the season with 257 hits! To accomplish the feat in more than 154 games is NOT a defeat of Sisler's record, although it IS a new record for a 162 game season, and a MAJOR accomplishment in baseball either way! For those of you who argue that "a record is a record regardless of season length", give Sisler, and his .407 season batting average, a season of 162 games! Sisler averaged 1.668 hits per team season game. This would mean that the aditional 8 games should have produced another 13-14 hits! Sisler's total would likely have been around 270 HITS FOR A 162 GAME SEASON! Another "debate" for the archives? You decide! However, for the purposes of this web page, since Ichiro did NOT accomplish at least 257 hits by the end of the 154th game of the season, Sisler remains the 154-game hits King! However, Ichiro will now be the 162-game King! Either way, congratulations to one of the greatest ball players of our era...Ichiro Suzuki!
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Let's play ball!
Sometimes I wonder if there is any common sense involved in choosing players for the Baseball Hall of Fame. ANY "Hall" should be devoted to a player's ability to play the game! Their off-field activities should not overshadow a player's career. If this were the case Cobb and Ruth, to name only two, would be excluded. With this in mind, my Web of Fame will consist of a list of individuals whose accomplishments in baseball ON THE FIELD were above and beyond even the above average player. A player should not be only "above average", but should be beyond, in a level of their own to qualify as one of the "greats". Crowd favorites, media favorites, or tragedy, should not determine who is "in" and who is "out". A player should not have to wait a lifetime to be admitted, but must compete in a minimum number of games to qualify - no exceptions! For this "Web Page of Fame", the minimum for a non-pitcher is 1309 games - for serious baseballers, you will note this is 8 1/2 years at 154 games per year - and at least 1500 hits! For pitchers, the minimum is 2125 innings - 8 1/2 years at 250 innings per year - and at least 900 strike outs! (THIS MEANS A PLAYER MUST MEET THE AFOREMENTIONED CRITERIA BEFORE THEY WILL EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR "ADMISSION", AUTOMATIC - SEE BELOW - OF OTHERWISE).
For AUTOMATIC admission, certain "minimums" SHOULD qualify a player for fame. Those "minimums" will be used here as they are as sound today as they were 50 years ago. Thus, there will be certain "automatics" that will place an individual in this Web of Fame, by meeting the minimums set forth above, PLUS at least one of the following categories:
| ONE TRIPLE CROWN CAREER STAT | 530 HRs | Career BA of .330 | 1900 RBI |
| OR ONE OTHER SURPERIOR CAREER OFFENSIVE STAT | 3100 Hits | 700 SBs | 1900 Runs |
| For Pitchers, One Of The Following Three Career Stats | 300 Wins | 3500 SOs | Career ERA less than 3.00 |
Others may qualify with lesser statistics (I was working on a formula specific to catchers for "automatic" admission; however, the "greats" should have no problem qualifying, although not necessarily in an "automatic" category, once the formula is applied to their career!), but it will require a combination of above average stats in several areas to do so.
Each player will be rated on a formula, which will generate a "Career Rating", and a "Plate Rating". The higher the score, the better the player. These scores can be used to compare players, although the same argument will still exist that you cannot necessarily compare players from different eras. With this in mind, we begin. In 2002 JOSE CANSECO announced his retirement! Mo Vaughn Promotes Canseco as a Hall of Famer! Does Canseco qualify? To find out, go straight to the rankings - also see how Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Ken Griffey Jr., Tim Raines, and others, rate against some of the "greats"! CLICK HERE
***** 530 OR MORE HOME RUNS *****
1.)Barry Bonds - 762 (thru 9-5-07) 2.)Henry Aaron - 755; 3.);George Herman "The Babe" Ruth - 714; 4.)Willie Mays - 660; 5.)Sammy Sosa - 606 (9-5-07); 6.)Ken Griffey Jr. - 592 (thru 9-5-07); 7.)Frank Robinson - 586; 8.)Mark McGwire - 583; 9.)Harmon Killebrew - 573; 10.)Rafael Palmeiro - 569; 11.)Reginald "Reggie" Jackson - 563; 12.)Michael "Mike" Schmidt - 548; 13.)Mickey Mantle - 536; 14.)James "Jimmie" Foxx - 534;
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15.)Willie McCovey - 521; 15.)Theodore "Ted" Williams - 521; 17.)Alex Rodriguez - 512 (thru 9-6-07); 18.)Ernest "Ernie" Banks - 512; 18.)Edwin "Eddie" Mathews - 512; 20.)Melvin "Mel" Ott - 511; 21.)Frank Thomas - 508 (thru 9-6-07); 22.)Eddie Murray - 504; 23.)Jim Thome - 495 (thru 9-6-07); 24.)Henry "Lou" Gehrig - 493; 24.)Fred McGriff - 493; 26.)Manny Ramirez - 490 (thru 9-6-07); 27.)Gary Sheffield - 479 (thru 9-6-07); 28.)Stanley "Stan" Musial - 475; 28.)Wilver "Willie" Stargell - 475; 30.)Dave Winfield - 465; 31.)Jose Canseco - 462; 32.)Carl Yastrzemski - 452; 33.)Jeff Bagwell - 449 (retired end of '06); 34.)Dave Kingman - 442; 35.)Andre Dawson - 438; 36.)Juan Gonzalez - 434; 37.)Cal Ripken - 431; 38.)Carlos Delgado - 429 (thru 9-6-07) 39.)Billy Williams - 426; 39.)Mike Piazza - 426 (thru 9-6-07);
Active Players Closest to 425HRs, with at least 359:
XX.)Chipper Jones - 380 (thru 9-5-07); XX.)Andruw Jones - 366 XX.)Jason Giambi - 362 XX.)Jeff Kent - 362 XX.)Vladimir Guerrero - 360 XX.)Jim Edmonds - 359
**Ken Griffey Jr. - 6th youngest to reach 500...but is he "washed up"? 600 Just around the corner for 2007/8!;
**LOOK OUT JR., HERE COMES "AROD"!! - Arod, Youngest player to reach 350 home runs! Youngest player to reach 400 home runs! Youngest to reach 500! Most HRs in history by age 35 and still going!
**Look out everyone, here comes Albert Pujols? 114 HRs for first three seasons is a record! 160 HRs after only 4 seasons TIES HIM AT 350th ALL TIME! 250 HRs in only 6 seasons! First player in history with at least 30 HRs in first five seasons - 2006 being his SIXTH season in a row with 30 or more to start his career!
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CLICK HERE FOR LIST OF MOST HRs IN A SINGLE SEASON
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***** 3100 OR MORE HITS *****
1.)Pete Rose - 4256; 2.)Tyrus "Ty" Cobb - 4189/4190; 3.)Henry Aaron - 3771; 4.)Stanley "Stan" Musial - 3630; 5.)Tristram "Tris" Speaker - 3514; 6.)Carl Yastrzemski - 3419; 7.)John "Honus" Wagner - 3415; 8.)Paul Molitor - 3319; 9.)Edward "Eddie" Collins - 3315/3312; 10.)Willie Mays - 3283; 11.)Eddie Murray - 3255; 12.)Napoleon "Nap" Lajoie - 3242; 13.)Cal Ripken Jr. - 3184; 14.)George Brett - 3154; 15.)Paul Waner - 3152; 16.)Robin Yount - 3142; 17.)Tony Gwynn - 3141; 18.)Dave Winfield - 3110;
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19.)Rickey Henderson - 3055; 20.)Rodney "Rod" Carew - 3053; 21.)Craig Biggio - 3046 (thru 9-5-07); 22.)Louis "Lou" Brock - 3023; 23.)Rafael Palmeiro - 3020; 24.)Wade Boggs - 3010; 25.)Albert "Al" Kaline - 3007; 26.)Roberto Clemente - 3000; 27.)Cap Anson - 2995 [During the 1887 season, - Anson's last - walks were counted as hits and were also counted as an offcial at bat; adding the 60 "walks" for that season, Anson became the first player to be in the 3000 hit club! (Was this the REAL reason walks were counted as hits for that season, so that Anson could make 3000 "hits" before he retired?) These "hits" are not included here because of the weird rule for that season - although some sites have him listed at 3300 and 3400 or more hits for his career]
Closest active players to 3000 hits: Barry Bonds 2930 (thru 9-5-07)
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***** 700 OR MORE STOLEN BASES *****
1.)RICKEY HENDERSON - 1406;
2.)Louis "Lou" Brock - 938;
3.)William "Sliding Billy" Hamilton - 937/912;
4.)Tyrus "Ty" Cobb - 892;
5.)Tim Raines - 808;
6.)Arlie Latham - 791/739;
7.)Vince Coleman - 752(ALTHOUGH A HIGH RANKING IN STOLEN BASES, DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS TO BE IN THE WEB OF FAME!!);
8.)Edward "Eddie" Collins - 745,744,or 743;
9.)Harry Stovey - 744/509;
10.)Max Carey - 738;
11.)John "Honus" Wagner - 720/3;
Closest active player to 700 stolen bases: Kenny Lofton, 621; Barry Bonds, 514 (thru 9-6-07)
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***** .330 OR BETTER CAREER AVERAGE *****
1.) Tyrus "Ty" Cobb - .366;
2.) Rogers Hornsby - .358;
3.) Joseph "Shoeless Joe" Jackson - .356;
4.) Dennis "Dan" Brouthers - .349/.342;
5.) Edward "Ed" Delahanty - .346;
6.) Tristram "Tris" Speaker - .345;
7.) William "Sliding Billy" Hamilton - .344;
8.) Theodore "Ted" Williams - .344;
9.) Jesse Burkett - .342;
10.)Harry Heilmann - .342;
11.)George "Babe" Ruth - .342;
12.)William "Willie" Keeler - .341;
13.)William "Bill" Terry - .341;
14.)Henry "Lou" Gehrig - .340;
15.)George Sisler - .340;
16.)Adrian "Cap" Anson - .339;
17.)Jesse Burkett - .338;
18.)Tony Gwynn - .338;
19.)Napoleon "Nap" Lajoie - .338/.339;
20.)Samuel "Sam" Thompson - .336;
21.)Aloysius "Al" Simmons - .334;
22.)Edward "Eddie" Collins - .333;
23.)Paul Waner - .333;
24.)Stanley "Stan" Musial - .331;
25.)Samuel "Sam" Thompson - .331;
26.)Henry "Heinie" Manush - .330;
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CLICK HERE FOR OTHERS WITH A CAREER BA OF AT LEAST .300
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***** 1900 OR MORE RBI *****
1.)Henry Aaron - 2297;
2.)George "The Babe" Ruth -2213/2217;
3.)"Cap" Anson - 2076/1879;
5.)Barry Bonds - 1996 (thru 9-5-07);
4.)Henry "Lou" Gehrig - 1995;
5.)Stan Musial - 1951;
6.)Tyrus "Ty" Cobb - 1937;
8.)James "Jimmie" Foxx - 1922;
9.)Eddie Murray - 1917;
10.)Willie Mays - 1903;
[Closest active players to 1900, with at least 1500 RBI: Ken Griffey Jr., 1696; Sammy Sosa 1654; Frank Thomas 1661; Manny Ramirez 1602; Gary Sheffield 1572 (thru 9-6-07)]
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***** 1900 OR MORE RUNS SCORED *****
1.)Rickey Henderson - 2295;
2.)Tyrus "Ty" Cobb - 2246;
3.)Barry Bonds - 2225 (thru 9-6-07);
4.)Henry Aaron - 2174;
4.)George "Babe" Ruth - 2174;
6.)Pete Rose - 2165;
7.)Willie Mays - 2062;
8.)"Cap" Anson - 1996/1719;
9.)Stan Musial - 1949;
[Closest active player,Craig Biggio 1839 (thru 9-6-07)]
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***** PITCHING - 300 OR MORE WINS *****
1.)Denton "Cy" Young - 511;
2.)Walter Johnson - 417/416;
3.)Grover "Pete" Alexander - 373;
4.)Christopher "Christy" Mathewson - 373;
5.)Warren Spahn - 363;
6.)Charles "Kid" Nichols - 361;
7.)James "Pud" Galvin - 360/4/5;
8.)Roger Clemens - 354 (thru 9-5-07);
9.)Greg Maddux - 344 (thru 9-5-07);
10.)Timothy "Tim" Keefe - 342/341;;
11.)Steven "Steve" Carlton - 329;
12.)John Clarkson - 327/328;
13.)Edward "Eddie" Plank - 326;
14.)Lynn "Nolan" Ryan - 324;
14.)Donald "Don" Sutton - 324;
16.)Philip "Phil" Niekro - 318;
17.)Gaylord Perry - 314;
18.)George "Tom" Seaver - 311;
19.)Michael "Mickey" Welch - 309/307;
20.)Charles "Charley" Radbourn - 308/309;
21.)Tom Glavine - 302 (thru 9-5-07);
21.)Early Wynn - 300;
21.)Robert "Lefty" Grove - 300;
[Closest active players, Randy Johnson, 284 (thru 9-5-07)]
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***** PITCHING - 3500 OR MORE STRIKEOTS *****
1.)Lynn "Nolan" Ryan - 5714;
2.)Roger Clemens - 4668 (thru 9-5-07);
3.)Randy Johnson - 4616 (thru 9-5-07);
4.)Steven "Steve" Carlton - 4136;
5.)Bert Blyleven - 3701;
6.)George "Tom" Seaver - 3640;
7.)Donald "Don" Sutton - 3574;
8.)Gaylord Perry - 3534;
9.)Walter Johnson - 3509;
[Closest active players: Greg Maddux, 3263; Curt Schilling, 3103; Pedro Martinez 3002;John Smoltz 2937 (thru 9-5-07);
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***** PITCHING - CAREER ERA LESS THAN 3.00 *****
1.)Edward "Ed" Walsh - 1.82;
2.)Adrian "Addie" Joss - 1.89;
3.)Mordecai "Three Fingers" Brown - 2.06;
4.)Christopher "Christy" Mathewson - 2.13;
5.)George "Rube" Waddell - 2.16;
6.)Walter Johnson - 2.17;
7.)Edward "Eddie" Plank - 2.35;
8.)Charles "Chief" Bender - 2.46;
9.)Grover "Pete" Alexander - 2.56;
10.)Timothy "Tim" Keefe - 2.62;
11.)Joseph "Joe" McGinnity - 2.66;
12.)Charles "Old Hoss" Radbourn - 2.67;
13.)John "Jack" Chesbro - 2.68;
14.)Michael "Mickey" Welch - 2.71;
15.)Edward "Whitey" Ford - 2.75;
16.)Sanford "Sandy" Koufax - 2.76;
17.)John Clarkson - 2.81;
18.)James "Jim" Palmer - 2.86;
19.)George "Tom" Seaver - 2.86;
20.)James "Pud" Galvin - 2.87;
21.)Stanley "Stan" Coveleski - 2.89;
22.)Juan Marichal - 2.89;
23.)Pack "Bob" Gibson - 2.91;
24.)Donald "Don" Drysdale - 2.95;
25.)Carl Hubbell - 2.98;
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IMPRESSIVE/SUPER STATS - 700+ HOME RUNS AND 500 STOLEN BASES - BARRY BONDS, THE FIRST, AND ONLY, MEMBER OF THE 700-500, 700-400, 700-300, 600-500, 600-400, 500-500, AND 500-400 CLUBS! As well as only the SECOND player to enter each of the 700-200 and 600-300 clubs!
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To go to the WebOfFame, and view the 92 current "Automatic" members,
CLICK HERE
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CLICK HERE FOR COMPLETE LIST OF LEAGUE MVPs
CLICK HERE FOR AN ANALYSIS OF CONTROVERSIAL MVP WINNERS AND WHO THE "TRUE" WINNER SHOULD HAVE BEEN
CLICK HERE FOR AN ANALYSIS OF CONTROVERSIAL ROY WINNERS AND WHO THE "TRUE" WINNER SHOULD HAVE BEEN
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