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Charles Capps
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Another weekend written off
      #834477 - 2003/02/24 03:13 AM

On Saturday evening, at aproximately 11:37 PM Pacific, celeron.pleh.net, my faithful and untroublesome computer of five years, died.

For the second time.

There's no way I'm gonna be able to bring it back yet again... locating a replacement motherboard the first time was a pain in the ass...

Knowing this was a hardware problem (as opposed to a software crash), I quickly popped the drive into one of the other computers here in the hosue and started extracting what I could. Much to my extreme pleasure, I found everything perfectly in tact.

But I was sloppy... too sloppy. I fired up Celeron's drive in VMWare, but didn't take enough protective measures... the drive is now corrupted beyond much hope of repair...

... if anyone knows of anything that can rebuild a corrupt NTFS filesystem, please let me know ... while I got ICQ, mail, and my bookmarks off the drive before it died, there's about six gigs of stuff on my desktop that I really want to salvage...

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RevdKathy
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #834533 - 2003/02/24 03:55 AM

Bleh!

Sorry - that's Waaaaay out of my league. Good luck with it though

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Verteron
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #834710 - 2003/02/24 05:43 AM

Ouch. I feel your pain

Unfortunately I don't know of any NTFS rebuild tools. The structure of the FS with all the journalling stuff is such that I suspect it would be very difficult. I'll ask around my colleagues and see if they know of any tools.

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Demiurge
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #834836 - 2003/02/24 06:40 AM

There's quite a few - depends on whether you want to pay for it or not. There's a couple of shareware programs out there, but if I really needed the data I wouldn't trust them with it.

Stellar Phoenix is OK - used it once, had mixed results. But I imagine it's pretty pricey. HDR-Data and File Scavenger are others I've heard of - I'm sure a quick google will give you a few options.

Of course, there's several data recovery specialists out there who will charge you an arm and a leg but are a dedicated service for just that type of thing.

Good luck!

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Kass
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #835438 - 2003/02/24 09:58 AM

If you don't mind, Charles, I can run this by our techie people here at work. We use some NTFS and the guy who works on it owes me a favor for covering his butt on a project plan.

Okay with you?

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Charles Capps
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #836104 - 2003/02/24 12:38 PM

That'd be great, Kass. Please pass on the following:

When I run chkdsk, it gets through the first two phases without a problem... then when it starts phase three, it complains about a missing security attribute on file 0, then complains that it can't write the attribute to disk and quits.

I've tried ZAR and it claims it can recover a few files... the problem being that it doesn't put together the directory tree properly, thus I can't figure out which directories are the ones I want to try and recover... It seems to assume that the entire filesystem is corrupt rather than try to make sense of what's there, which is allegedly in-tact from what chkdsk says.

Luckily, I did manage to get my mail, ICQ, and bookmarks off of the disk... I should have been more parinoid... much more parinoid...

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Kass
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #836231 - 2003/02/24 01:02 PM

Will do. I'll see if I can get something useful out of him.

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where'sSaavik?
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #839134 - 2003/02/24 08:17 PM

Quote:

Posted by RevdKathy:
Sorry - that's Waaaaay out of my league. Good luck with it though




Ditto.

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Demiurge
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #840622 - 2003/02/25 01:48 AM

I'd recommend one that writes the recovered contents to a separate disk if possible - that way you still have your baseline, and the directory structure won't get overwritten on your primary.

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daedalus5
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #843817 - 2003/02/25 05:32 PM

Quote:

Posted by Charles Capps:
That'd be great, Kass. Please pass on the following:

When I run chkdsk, it gets through the first two phases without a problem... then when it starts phase three, it complains about a missing security attribute on file 0, then complains that it can't write the attribute to disk and quits.

I've tried ZAR and it claims it can recover a few files... the problem being that it doesn't put together the directory tree properly, thus I can't figure out which directories are the ones I want to try and recover... It seems to assume that the entire filesystem is corrupt rather than try to make sense of what's there, which is allegedly in-tact from what chkdsk says.

Luckily, I did manage to get my mail, ICQ, and bookmarks off of the disk... I should have been more parinoid... much more parinoid...






Let me be a patronizinf pain in the arse here - but you're an IT guru - Class 101 tells you to "back up"!!!

Anyway, I have no idea about NTFS architecture, but I do know there is a few programs that will "undelete" stuff from a FAT32/FAT system - such as Windows based Norton Utilities, which is pretty good.

So, if you can put your broken drive in as a slave, and use a good PC & harddisk as a master, you can then access the broken disk drive from teh working Windows system - with the aid of these recovery programs.




Norton Ghost is a wonderful tool, that creates a DOS memory partition (can't remember the correct acronymn for it), that back up EVERYTHING onto a few CD's, including stuff like your swap file, and saves it all as the 32-bit file extension stuff (long file names), instead of short file names, which DOS is forced to use.

You can get this tool for free from the usual , and strictly banned to be discussed on this Board methods.

(If you don't know, email me, and I can tell you how to get it).

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Charles Capps
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #845019 - 2003/02/25 09:08 PM

Alas, celeron was the only machine in the house without a CDRW drive, thus backups never took place...

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Kass
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #853148 - 2003/02/27 10:59 AM

I've not heard anything back yet from my techie, but I will keep at him. Today is a slower day around here so he'll have some time for me.

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Charles Capps
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Re: Another weekend written off
      #853738 - 2003/02/27 12:52 PM

Eh, don't worry about it anymore. I've tried every trick I know (and some I don't know) to try and get things working... there's just no way to do it. The drive is gonna get nuked and paved this weekend... (this time with the right geometry...)

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