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BREAKTHROUGH
Open-ended, Life-centred, Gospel-Focused Explorations of the Hebrew Bible Readings from the Australian Prayer Book.
  Jeremiah 23: 23-29...12th S. after Pentecost, C ....(For Lk 12:49-59, scroll.)

NOTES: 1] Read the Hebrew Bible in the light of our Christian understanding of God revealed in Jesus. 2] Born about 646BC, JER was called to be a Prophet in 626-7, & lived through the siege of Jerusalem & the captivity of its people by Babylon in the mid 580's. 3] This is part of JER's on-going attacks on false prophets.

WARMING UP:  How much of what we read, see, or hear in the media do we believe?

TREASURES OLD & NEW: Identify God at work in anything this week?

ENTERING INTO THE STORY:
23-24 
Do we ever act like those God castigates here, i.e. we respond to God as God when we 'feel' God is near or that we're near God, but neglect God when we don't 'feel' He's near or ourselves near to Him? What leads to this kind of uncommitted & unstable relationship with God? If this cap ever fits us, how do we move on from there? How do we feel towards others who show symptoms of such an unstable relationship? Do we ever get mad as JER does? So far as bearing witness to God is concerned, could we or anyone else be other than a false & unreliable prophet if we run hot & cold like God complains of here? Do we ourselves ever think of God sometimes as 'hiding' in some 'secret place', & at other times, 'filling heaven & earth'?  If God seems inadequate to us, who made God inadequate? Is it more likely a matter of us being inadequate rather than God being inadequate?

25-29  Are we so unfamiliar with anyone playing a prophetic role these days that the issue of true & false prophecy isn't what it was back in JER's time, or even JES's time? Is the issue today more likely to be that there is no prophet? Or, if there is, are they necessarily inside the church (any of the churches)? Would we expect dreams (or visions?) to be the stock in trade of a prophet today, or some other way of proclaiming 'thus says the Lord'? Do we have any ideas about what that other way might be today?
            What might 'prophesying the deceit of our own heart' mean? Is it the same as recognizing the deceit in our own heart or more than that? Does it necessarily include admitting / telling / confessing it as well as recognizing it? Or is this way of looking at things not really meaningful to us now? Would 'deceit' be a reasonable way of looking at much of the 'New Age' stuff out there today? If we see that kind of stuff as a threat, at what point does it become a threat? What's made it a threat? Can't God deal with his own threats? Or is that why God needs faithful prophets as much as ever now? But what if people, even church members, aren't tuned into prophets any more?
             Does v.28 suggest that 'dreaming' on the part of so-called prophets is likely to be false, whereas we should be able to recognize God's word spoken faithfully by a genuine one? How do we resolve this age-old question of genuine v. not genuine, faithful v. not faithful? What does straw have in common with wheat? How many differences can we list? Keeping that metaphor, is God more likely to be seeing us as chaff or wheat? What is the consequence for us of how God sees us? When God faces us with tough terms like fire, or hammer, do we squirm, or just shrug them off?

What light does the Gospel (LK12:49-59) throw on all this?