Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy,alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy,alt.tv.nickelodeon,alt.answers,news.answers,alt.animation.spumco Followup-to: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy Subject: The Ren & Stimpy Show: FAQ (1/2) Approved: news-answers-request@mit.edu Archive-name: /tv/ren-n-stimpy/faq/part1 Version: Tue Apr 4 11:44:44 EDT 1995 Written-by: Norman G. Sippel The Ren And Stimpy Show: Frequently Asked Questions Part One Of Two Created By Nick Sayer Written By Norman Sippel (C) 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995 Norman G. Sippel *************************************************************************** * Exciting News! * *************************************************************************** * Spumco Secret Club Information! * * John Kricfalusi Is On The Internet! * * Bob Camp And Games Are On The Internet! * * Freehead, The Screamin' Sequel! * * A New Internet Sites Listing!! * * Lots Of Other Exciting Stuff!! * *************************************************************************** * * * If you do not already get it, please ask your system administrators * * for alt.animation.spumco! This newsgroup discusses the fine folks * * and future projects of Spumco, Inc!!! Look for alt.animation.spumco! * * * *************************************************************************** * * * Due to personal reasons and current events, this FAQ took a whole year * * to be updated! Sorry for the untimely delay and enjoy the many changes * * and additions! * * * *************************************************************************** * Remember: If you volunteered to keep track of R&S showings, * * please continue your good work and send it in! =O) * *************************************************************************** Preface. The Explanation Of The F.A.Q. An F.A.Q. (from now on represented without the dots) is a way to explain the topic of discussion (Ren And Stimpy) and help newbies and veterans avoid repetitive posts about a specific sub-topic (like "What was edited out of 'Powdered Toast Man'?"). Before you post a question about R&S, you should read this document to see if your question has already been answered. If you have corrections, additions, suggestions, comments, or hairballs, send them to Norman Sippel at ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu with $47 million. There is no guarantee that posted items will make it to my attention. For it to work, you have to MAIL it. Thank You. Nick Sayer will probably be happy to answer newbie questions. His electronic mail address has changed, and I stupidly deleted in a mad rush for disk space to complete one of my systems analysis projects. =( (Nick, will you please send it to me? Sorry for the confusion.) This FAQ and the two other Ren And Stimpy documents will be posted every four weeks, thanks to the local document poster on the Internet. Thank You Mr. Jonathan Kamens for helping me out and putting up with all the questions on form and posting these documents on the net! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright Acknowledgment: Before the R&S FAQ continues, I want to acknowledge the copyrights and trademarks of Spumco Inc., Nickelodeon, MTV, Viacom, and all the other companies which are mentioned in this document and the other three (Encyclopedia, Guide, Internet Sites Listing). The purpose of the R&S documents (FAQ, Guide, Encyclopedia, Internet Sites Listing) is to inform people, and the documents are kept in my spare time and are kept for no profit. The Ren and Stimpy Frequently Asked Questions (R&S FAQ), which has been significantly changed since Nick Sayer's first season R&S FAQ and minus any direct quotes, lyrics, or character likenesses, is (C) 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995 Norman G. Sippel, all rights reserved. NO changes can be made to this document without the author's written permission. Reproduction and/or distribution for non-profit purposes ONLY. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Distribution and Site File Access: This FAQ (both parts one and two), if kept on a file transfer protocol (FTP) site, must be kept in a public access section and be available for free; otherwise, the site may not carry this document. 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Abbreviations: General: BTW = By The Way DYN = Did You Know/Did You Notice? FAQ = Frequently Asked Questions FYI = For Your Information IMO = In My Opinion IMHO = In My Humble Opinion Common: R&S = The Ren & Stimpy Show Nick = Nickelodeon - the network that first aired R&S EuroNick = United Kingdom's Nickelodeon, run by SKY TV, who airs R&S Much = MuchMusic, a Canadian music channel which has played R&S MTV = Music Television - Nick's sister station WCK = _Wild_Cartoon_Kingdom_, a (defunct?) magazine on cartoons Episodes: BHB = Big House Blues ITA = In The Army MSMD = Monkey See, Monkey Don't PTM = Powdered Toast Man TBWCR = The Boy Who Cried Rat! SBD = Stimpy's Big Day SOS = Son Of Stimpy Episode Themes: CHACS = Commander Hoek and Cadet Stimpy SSBL = Stimpy's Storybook Land WWDTT = What'll We Do Till Then? (Officially known as "Goodbye" bumpers) :** Note **: All times are Eastern Standard Time or Eastern Daylight Time depending on what time of the year it is, so please make sure you are careful about scheduling your time for R&S shows. Changes To FAQ And Documents Since Last Time. --------------------------------------------- * Check out the encyclopedia for new worldwide showings! * Expanded airing information of Season 4. * New American edits in the Encyclopedia. :( * New information about Spumco and John K.! * Michelle Hass (of Anvil and Frame Zero magazines) has found us out!!! * Bob Camp and John K. have joined us! (If you are looking for info. about Season 4 shows or worldwide showing lists, check out the R&S Guide and Encyclopedia for details.) Questions That Need Answers For The FAQ. ---------------------------------------- ** What are the current times, places, and episodes for foreign R&S showings? (are the current ones correct? what about City TV? Iceland?) * The R&S Video Games - Concepts, Prices, General Info. * What company was producing the Nicktoon cards? * More details on the mini-R&S dolls (what is Stimpy's T-Shirt?). * Broadcasting Address of stations carrying R&S * Rumor: Is Joe Pesci one of the circus midgets in "Circus Midgets"? * What R&S-related people are on the Internet now besides John K. and Bob Camp? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Table Of Contents -------------------------------------------------------------------------- PART ONE Preface. The Explanation Of The FAQ. Other Important Information. 1. Who or What is Ren And Stimpy? 2. When and Where can I see Ren And Stimpy (Worldwide)? 3. My site has two Ren And Stimpy newsgroups. What's the deal? 4. How do I pronounce Ren's name? What is the "J" mean in Stimpy's name? 5. Important Real World Events, People, Places, and Addresses 5a. Who makes Ren and Stimpy? Who is behind its voices? What has happened to Ren and Stimpy? 5b. Where can I send my e-mail or snail mail about R&S? 6. What's the deal with the character and shows with "George Liquor"? 7. Commonly Asked Phrases, Places, And People 7a. What are the words to ... ? 7b. What is the meaning behind or origin of ... ? 8. Is it "No sir, I _DON'T_ like it", or "No sir, I _DIDN'T_ like it"? PART TWO 9. Does anyone have a list of episodes? 10. What is the title of the cartoon that spoofs "Wild Kingdom"? 11. Does Nickelodeon censor Ren And Stimpy? 12. What about the music? What has happened to "Der Screamin' Lederhosen"? 13. Where can I get R&S ... ? (Paraphernalia) 14. Is there a fan club? 15. What about the future of R&S? 16. What about the comic book? 17. Where can I find archived information on R&S? (E-mail, FTP, WWW) 18. Where can I find Ren and Stimpy World Wide Web (WWW) sites? 19. Has John K. (the creator of R&S) seen this FAQ or the other R&S documents? 20. What are Spumco's/John Kricfalusi's future projects? (NEW SECTION!) 21. Our Signatures (and Ren and Stimpy ASCII pictures) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Ren And Stimpy Show: Frequently Asked Questions -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Edition Supersedes All Previous Editions Up To And Including May/June 1994. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Who or What is Ren And Stimpy? "The Ren & Stimpy Show" is one of five cartoon shows (collectively known as "The Nicktoons") produced by Nickelodeon, a Cable TV channel in North America. The two main characters are an "asthma-hound" chihuahua named "Ren Hoek" (with an umlaut over the o), and a cat named "Stimpson J. Cat". The show's attraction is its shameless and gross physical humor, often consisting of nose-picking and farts (though there's more to it than that). It is suitable (and funny) for the whole family, though some have called it an acquired taste. 2. When and Where can I see R&S (Worldwide)? A. United States Currently, R&S can only be seen via cable TV or satellite. It airs on Nickelodeon (aka SNICK on Saturday nights) Saturday evening at 9:00pm (Eastern/Pacific). It also airs Sunday mornings at 11:30am (Eastern/Pacific). MTV airs the show at special times of the year (like ratings month). MTV showings have compressed audio =( and usually don't start on time. The order and pairings of each show is also changed for MTV largly due to the older audience; they will show "Powdered Toast Man," "Out West," and other Nick-banned cartoons. Incidentally, MTV Networks Inc. owns Nick. Then in turn, MTV is owned in large part by Viacom. MTV showings are inferior to the showing on Nick, since they stick the MTV logo on the lower right corner and have more commercials. Nick also adds the Nick or SNICK logo (or others as appropriate) to each cartoon. B. Canada Currently, R&S is not being aired in any common cable channel. From Paul Engler (engler@cpsc.ucalgary.ca): Thanks for all the info you gave me yesterday. However, after reading the R&S FAQ I noticed that it is lacking the broadcast times in Canada. Up here the show airs at 8:30 EST, and 16:30 EST every Thursday, and again at 12:30 EST Friday, on Much Music. (I'm sure this channel is available off of satellite although I can't remember where. It should be in any of the many monthly satellite guides.) The interesting thing about this is that they are still broadcasting all the episodes, including PTM which ran last Thursday, March 6. From ecurrent@zooid.guild.org: Don't forget that it's shown in Canada on MuchMusic (basically our version of MTV) on Thursdays at 12:30 PM (and since Much programs in blocks that are repeated several times a day, it is also repeated at 8:30 PM, and 4:30 AM & 8:30 AM on Friday). Much started airing R&S in September, 1992, and there was much happiness and rejoicing amongst those of us who had been surviving for months on bootlegged videos smuggled across the border. :-) They first aired all of the first season episodes in the same order as their original airings on Nick. They were then shown a second time, in the same order, and then during the third "loop" of first season episodes (sometime in January, 1993), they began airing the second season, once again in the same order as the original Nick showings. As of the end of February, 1993, they had aired all of the second season shows except for "Fake Dad" and "Monkey See, Monkey Don't" and they have started repeating the second season from the beginning once again. It's also worth noting that Much always airs episodes in the same form as their *original* Nick airings, so edits that appear in later Nick airings (i.e. the cuts to "PTM", etc.) are not reflected in the Much airings. Much also aired "Son of Stimpy", which was only aired on MTV in the US, not on Nick. From Trevor Paul Bugera (umbuger2@ccu.umanitoba.ca): On MUCHMUSIC's news show they had a little clip that Much was going to cut R&S from the schedule after thursday, but in August (around the 7-9th) they are going to have what they called all 13 episodes back to back. Tis a shame because it is my only source of R&S. I'll have to tape them. Editor's Note: The marathon was aired August 14, 1993, followed by Weird Al Television. MuchMusic's original versions of R&S may be replaced with edited ones if they return. City TV has rights to air R&S in Canada now. A video of "The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen Theme" is being broadcasted, and according to rumor, it has charted #30 on the MuchMusic top songs of the week recently. From Jack Lee (cjlee@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca): In Toronto, Ontario, Canada, R&S is being shown on CITY-TV Channel 57 on Wednesdays @ 8pm. Two episodes at a time! From Adam Frampton (frampton@access.digex.net): The Canadian government is going on the Internet, starting November 5. Some nice little places to flame-- er send constructive critism are: Canadian Brodcasting Commision: utgpu!plan9!chyk!freako@suburbia.apana.org.au (damian caynes) writes: >Here in oz we get ren n stimpy at a ridiculous timeslot, like 7:30am on >monday... this is damn awkward and i've only caught one episode, tho i was >hooked instantly. I was half asleep and they were goin off like Itchy & >Scratchy on illegal substances, and it was preeeeeeeety strange... And what's worse they're moving it to 7am starting tomorrow! It's being edged out to make space for "The Adventures of T Rex" - Jurassic Park has a lot to answer for :-( Imagine the horror at hauling yourself out of bed at 7:30am only to catch a last few tantalising seconds of Ren & Stimpy followed by some trashy dinosaur `toon. Eucccch! From Darren O'Shaughnessy (Darren.OShaughnessy@cs.anu.edu.au): >From: Norman G. Sippel (ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu): > > I can wait till this weekend to upload the new FAQ, so I'll wait for your > update tomorrow (if you would please include new shows). Can you give me > more on this "Maynard F#" and "JJJ" ? What are they? The TV guide says that Ren & Stimpy's timeslot (7 a.m. Monday) has been taken by some monstrosity called "Piggsburgh Pigs". I don't know when, if ever, we'll see more episodes :( Lucky I've got them all on tape to watch at my leisure. Maynard F# Crabbes is a mad DJ on the national alternative radio network JJJ. He liberally intersperses so-called normal music with stuff like ABBA, Weird Al Yankovic, and now Ren & Stimpy, and has a penchant for Hawaiian shirts, flares, and rectangular specs. Do you really want to know more? 8*} From Robert Dennys (robertd@psy.uq.oz.au): Note that R&S is back on the air here in Australia on Channel TEN, but not at its previous weekday-morning slot - its on 8:30 am Saturday mornings. F. Iceland From Jon Ingi Ingimundarson (jii@rhi.hi.is): Our state-owned television RUV started broadcasting the first season shows two weeks ago. Currently they've shown show #3 and show #6 as listed in the Ren and Stimpy FAQ. It airs Wednesday at 6:30pm. The listing in the papers goes something like this: "Ren and Stimpy: A cartoon show about the dog Ren and the cat Stimpy." The tv-station has apparently bought 6 episodes. They were shown on our state-owned televsion station RUV (Rikisutvarpid- Sjonvarp). RUV broadcasts between ca. 18:00-23:30 weekdays and 12:00- 1:00 weekends. And show around 5-10 US shows each week (this week it's 4). Why RandS were chosen is a mystery to me. It is not certain that season 2 will be shown here since tv-stations often buy shows only for one season and then move onto the next show. Editor's Note: Jon keeps a listing of episodes for Iceland in the R&S encyclopedia. Unfortunately, during my previous month's downloading, I have lost the Iceland info. beyond this. Jon, can you please email me a new copy? (FYI: I ask here since my emails have been going unanswered.) G. Portugal From Grey Wolf (l40149@alfa.ist.utl.pt): As of the time of posting, R&S is shown weekly by SIC, the first Portuguese private channel. The time to tune your sets is every Sunday, by 11.30am. R&S is included an a weekly Nick-Pack, including R&S, Rugrats and a Nick based gameshow (I don't know its original title). H. Other Nations, Countries, and Uncharted Regions Of Space Dozens of other countries have or will be getting R&S. Please e-mail the times, places, and other relevant information if you want your country (especially United Kingdom) added to this section. (And no, home video airings don't count :) Here's a short list of rumored countries which I need info.: Japan (I've seen a translated version), Germany, China, Norway, and Finland. One person e-mailed me asking "Can I do an airing list?" I told them to please make it clear and consise, use my numbering scheme (confusion is minimized by using standardization between continents), and if they want me to add it to the R&S Encyclopedia, please follow a nice format (use mine as an example if you wish). All countries are appreciated!! John K. will soon get to see this section, so please, let him know you are watching!! **Note To Country Episode Keepers**: Please e-mail your new lists when they are ready, and please continue using the R&S Encyclopedia numbering system. Good job on your work and thank you for your continuing support! 3. My site seems to get two R&S newsgroups. What's the deal? At the time a newsgroup for R&S was being discussed, the original idea was for the alt.fan group. Many (including Nick Sayer) counter-proposed that it should be under alt.tv. When it came time to create the groups, both newsgroups went out. It is the FAQ Keeper's opinion that since it is a TV show, it belongs in alt.tv. The alt.tv group is not called 'ren-and-stimpy' because that would be too long for certain (broken) news programs and operating systems. 'ren-&-stimpy' is inappropriate because it contains a non-alphanumeric character other than '- or _'. Many sites, like the editor's, have both newsgroups' postings going into one newsgroup, so duplicate postings will be prevalent at times. Currently, UseNet considers alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy valid, according to UseNet's valid groups in the newsgroup log in news.groups. Ignore any messages of the otherwise. *:NOTE:* As an added bonus, keep tabs on alt.animation.spumco (a new group), rec.arts.animation, alt.tv.nickelodeon, and rec.arts.tv for R&S news because some people do NOT get the R&S newsgroups. Also, rec.music.dementia will have lists of the Dr. Demento show's Funny Five which sometimes features the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" and "Don't Whiz On The Electric Fence" songs! 4. How do I pronounce Ren's name? What is the "J" mean in Stimpy's name? First, Ren's name is apparently Dutch [*], and thus an English pronunciation will only be approximate. It ends up as "Hork" (rhymes with "pork"). They play with this in the show and intentionally mispronounce it "HO-ack" or "HO-ehk" from time to time. His first name rhymes with "pen," of course. [*] From what we know about Ren's cousin Sven, he is Danish. It seems like both Ren and Sven are a mixture of different European cultures. From Serge K. (koffsde@hacktic.nl): In entry 4, there's an entry about the pronounciation of Ren's name. As stated there, it is a Dutch name. Well, I live in The Netherlands and watch R&S on the BBC. So here's the addition. In the Dutch language, "Hoek" is spelled just as "Hook" in the English language. You just have to give it a somewhat sharper sound to the "oo"-sound. But, there's an umlaut on the "o", and in the Dutch language, it's impossible to put it there. So there's only one conclusion: Ren is German! It's the only language that supports his name with the umlaut. The pronunciation is still the same... So just keep it as "Hook"... Editor's Note: There has been a conclusion reached on Ren's name. His name, according to Comics Interview #131, came from John K.'s landlord at the time of his creation. Stimpy's name, btw, came frm John K.'s roommate in college, who's nickname was "Stimpy" Kadoogen. Stimpy's "J" in his full name, Stimpson J. Cat, stands for either as a tribute to Jay Ward (i.e., Rocket "J." Squirrel) or nothing (according to Bob Camp and his wife, rgcamp@earthlink.com). By the next FAQ, this will be decided by John Kricfalusi, the creater himself. 5a. Who makes R&S? Who is behind its voices? What has happened to R&S? Who makes R&S? Originally, the creative force behind R&S is John Kricfalusi. He is also Ren's voice. John K.'s last name is pronounced "KRIS-fah-loo-see". He is from Ottawa, Canada. John K is "stunned" that so many adults watch R&S. (See #18 for the scoop about his reaction to this FAQ) From ebh@mink.att.com: He [John K] was a major creative force (under the [Ralph] Bakshi umbrella) behind the New Adventures of Mighty Mouse, and he was also involved with The Jetsons. John K.'s creative organization is called "Spumco". The company motto is "The Danes call it quality." (See #7b for more details.) The boy whose picture is shown with the motto is Jimmy, the hapless boy - the company mascot (From lazlo@triton.unm.edu). It's said that he is John K.'s oldest creation for T.V. and his "best" character (_Cinfantastique_). Who is behind its voices? Stimpy's voice is Billy West. Billy West is also the voice of "Doug," one of the other Nicktoons. West used to work at WBCN in Boston, which is famous for shock-radio. He is also "Announcer," "Sven," "Ren," and "Flies (from Ren's Toothache)" according to _Film_Threat_ (and what I know). (I have a file about his background I have posted. E-mail me for it or if you have an FTP site I can put it on please.) When John K. left R&S, Billy West is doing Ren on an interim basis until a new person could be found. He debuted on "What'll We Do Till Then?" with Stimpy blowing himself up like a balloon. Vanessa Coffey, the producer for all the Nicktoons, has announced that they are looking through talent agencies for a replacement. Billy West came to Miami University of Ohio in early October 1993. More details can be found in the summary I wrote about it; I believe it can be found in the official ftp site (aug3.augsburg.edu) as the R&S documents. Second season credits list "The Spumco Players" or "The Players", presumably the voice artists. They include (from "In The Army / Powdered Toast Man"): Harris Peet, Cheryl Chase, Michael Pataki, Bob Camp, Vincent Waller, John K., Jim Smith, Henry Porch, Charlie Birssette and Billy West. Many of these are people with other jobs within Spumco. During the second season, there were two acknowledged guest stars: Gary Owens as Powdered Toast Man, and (the late =( ) Frank Zappa as The Pope (both in "Powdered Toast Man"). Gary Owens has also appeared in several bumpers as the part of the announcer. During the third season, Gilbert Gottfried played "Jerry The Belly Button Elf." Five unannounced guest stars have appeared on R&S. In "Stimpy's Fan Club," Soleil Moon Frye (of "Punky Brewster" fame) was one of the fans. In "Visit To Anthony", Randy Quaid guest stars, and Anthony plays himself. June Lockhart and Billy Mumy (of "Lost In Space") played roles in the fourth season show, "Blazing Entrails." What has happened to R&S? Due to internal conflicts which could not be resolved, Nickelodeon fired Spumco during the production of the second season of R&S. Nick's reasoning: they took too long in bringing out episodes. Ironically, the new "puppet" company called "Games Animations" or "Games Productions" has premiered its R&S in late November for season 3 and early October for season 4. Spumco always had its premieres (both season 1 and 2) in mid-August (a whole __month or two earlier__ than Games!!). After John K. and Spumco were fired, there was a split. A "puppet" company called "Games Productions" (or what Spumco calls "Stabco" or "Milkmen") makes Ren And Stimpy now. John K. is on his own with Spumco making "George Liquor" and "He Hog". Games Productions is very tightly controlled by Nick, so their scripts don't seem to be half as funny as Spumco's where he was wild, wacky, and funny. Billy West ended up getting the job of Ren. Games Productions changed its name to Games Animations. What this exactly means for R&S is this: they're a bunch of Nick-eediots! The new shows stink, in the opinion of most alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy newsgroup posters, which has not made Bob Camp or his co-worker "Surly Boy" very happy. From my sources, Vanessa Coffey has lost her job as the head of Nicktoons to Mary Harrington, and Vanessa is in charge of R&S alone. The good news is that I want to acknowledge the Spumco fans within Nick; you've had more to deal with than anyone else! So here's a well-deserved pat on the back from the R&S FAQ and the Internet! 5b. Where can I send my e-mail or snail mail about R&S? **************************************************************************** If the Tiny Toons fans can write in and get results, why not us?! :) Please write into Nickelodeon and/or Games! Tell them whether you like seeing weeks of reruns, the quality of material decreasing, or any other gripes or compliments about "The Ren and Stimpy Show." **************************************************************************** John K. responded to my letter, so let Spumco know you exist! :) OH JOY!! Write To Spumco! Join Their Fan Club! **************************************************************************** *:NOTE:* Avoid using standardized letters--they look bad because Nick would think only a few people are writing in instead of hundreds and are usually thrown away. Be original :). **************************************************************************** ELECTRONICAL MAIL: SPUMCO INC./INTERNATIONAL: John Kricfalusi: Not Available At This Time (Soon Though!!) GAMES ANIMATION/PRODUCTIONS: Bob Camp: rgcamp@earthlink.com These three "claim" to work for Games: "Surly Boy" (Steve Lotar?): surlyboy@aol.com "DrTreeves" (Unknown Identity): drteeves@aol.com "MonkeyChop" (Unknown Identity): monkeychop@aol.com Please note that Surley Boy did post a third and fourth season episode/preview guide, and his work is most appreciated by the fans. (Please email him for it; episodes will only become cataloged into the Encyclopedia/Guide as they are aired.) ANVIL/FRAME ZERO MAGAZINE/FREEHEAD: Michelle Hass: michelle.hass@ledge.com SNAIL (REGULAR) MAIL: Spumco International 7605 Santa Monica Blvd. #591 Los Angeles, CA 90046 (Home of John Kricfalusi and the other starving artists:) Other important addresses from Joel Schenkle (donnell@polyp.micro.umn.edu): President Of Viacom: Nickelodeon: Sumner Redstone Nickelodeon Headquarters 98 Baldpate Hill Road 1515 Broadway, 21st Fl. Newton, Mass. 02160 New York City, N.Y. 10036 (a big shot) (home of Geraldine Laybourne, Pres. of Nick) MuchMusic: (Any other foreign addresses of R&S stations?) (From djcl@io.org and Toastman P. Bugera [umbuger2@ccu.umanitoba.ca]) MuchMusic 299 Queen Street West Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5V 2Z5 (Canadian source of R&S) ** From Alojz Kiseli (9045387u@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au): Well, the address for Channel 10 in Adelaide (where I live) is 125 Strangeways Tce. Nth Adelaide S.A. 5006 Phone no: (08) 239 1010 I've already given them a call, they don't seem to know much about it. Is it sheer ignorance? I doubt it.... Try ask the guys on the newsgroups to lobby channel 10 in their state, that way if we get enough support, something might actually happen. Fingers crossed... ** In WCK, they want copies of letters people are sending into Nickelodeon. If you want to let them have a copy (which they may reprint and let Nick publicly know you don't like the situation) or whether you approve/disprove their publicity of R&S, here's their address: Wild Cartoon Kingdom 9171 Wilshire Blvd., #300 Beverly Hills, California 90210 (pro John K. media) If you send letters to bring back the funniness and wackiness into Ren and Stimpy or something similar, please treat these people with respect. Is there a public address for Games Productions/Animations? **** Write In! John Switzer (from alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy) wrote in and got into _Ren_And_Stimpy_Exposed_ magazine! (And thanks for submitting our 1992 presidential slogans, John!) Tell them you want the real R&S--no substitutes! And comments, suggestions, additions, deletions, and/or corrections should be sent to ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu. See the preface and #17 for more details. 6. What's the deal with the character and shows with "George Liquor" ? Nick has had a struggle with the character "George Liquor." He is a "typical" macho man (who shares hobbies with "Earl Pitts, American," if you have heard his funny commentaries created by Gary Burbank on 700 WLW in Cincinnati, Ohio, but without the beer [for now]) who likes to treat R&S like they're in the army. He likes guns (as shown in _Film_Threat_) and wants to win at everything. He is your average plain egotistical guy who treats everyone rough especially Mr. Horse and The Judge in "Dog Show." Nick shudders at this character because he is so "adult." His cartoons are probably the ones which John K. got himself into trouble. We see a glimpse of him in "The Boy Who Cried Rat!" as the man who runs R&S out of the trash cans; he also appears in "Robin Hoek" as the sheriff. The second season basically revolves around him. He was the one who sent R&S to the army (and gave Ren the $20 which he in turn gave to the Sergeant), dog show (and gave Ren the barbed treatment), and many other places (including in "In The Army" where R&S have a picture of him on the wall between their beds). He treats them with little respect and kindness, so when Ren revolts against George, he throws a fit. In "Man's Best Friend," there is a scene where Ren hits George over the head with a oar for 3 minutes and in slow motion once (which will be cut out of the final version, by the way) for a total of over twenty hits. This type of violence wasn't taken lightly by Nick; they banned "Dog Show" and "Man's Best Friend." In _R&S_Exposed_ magazine, they totally ignored the character completely. When George was first presented, someone in Nick thought his last name was "lick her"; Nick still didn't like the idea of a character named after a chemical depressant. The jury is still out on the future of his cartoons and his character. The official word is that George Liquor was given back to John K. (because of Nick's so-called ruined image) and will be appearing in future Spumco projects. Currently, there is a deal in the works for George to appear in his own show for FOX or another network. George Liquor is played by Michael Pataki. He has appeared in many movies and series, including the most recent appearances as the voice of "The Cow" on "The New Adventures of Mighty Mouse" and "Sewer King" on "Batman: The Animated Series." He's been on several "Star Trek" shows and movies, both new and old. He was even cast as a special cameo as "The Cow" on "No Pants Today," an episode of Ren and Stimpy! George, according to WCK issue 2, was handed back to John K. from Nick conditionally. For example, he can't be a child molester or a mass murderer. (John K. was quoted to say something to the effect, "How many people does he need to kill to make him a mass murderer?" :) Look for him and his nephew Jimmy coming soon to a screen near you! =8O) From David A Gerstein (David.A.Gerstein@williams.edu): I was just talking to animation historian Jerry Beck yesterday about "Man's Best Friend" on video, and specifically John K's reaction to this. Turns out John K. has been after Sony to get after Nick to let them put MBF on tape, censored or uncensored. He WANTS it to be part of the official line. And here's why, as I realized after hearing this. You see, although Nick will earn money from the tapes, it's what's known as "guilt money" (that's my own word for it), because people's enthusiasm for the tape will be further reminders for Vanessa Coffey that she shouldn't have given John K. the bum deal she handed him. All the more evidence that she was WRONG. If sales of MBF on video aren't exceptional, that's all the more evidence that no one CARES, and that she can do just ANYTHING. So by telling readers of alt.tv.r&s that they shouldn't buy the tape, we are doing a DISSERVICE to John K! He WANTS it to be released in some form (edited or not), and if HE wants them to release it, we should support the project. From Michelle Hass (michelle.hass@ledge.com): The official word is that George Liquor was given back to John K. (because of Nick's so-called ruined image) and will be appearing in future Spumco projects. However, you will be able to see George Liquor in all his manly glory in the pages of Spumco Comic Book (tm Spumco, Inc.) which is a joint venture between Spumco and Marvel Comics Group. #1 should ship in May or June of 1995. 7a. What are the words to... ... the 'Log' song? "What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs rolls over your neighbor's dog? What's great for a snack and fits on your back? It's Log, Log, Log! It's Log, Log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood. It's Log, Log, it's better than bad, it's good! Everyone wants a log! You're gonna love it, Log! Come on and get your log! Everyone needs a Log!" ... the words to Stimpy's insane ravings in "Mad Dog Hoek"? From _Cinfantastique_ magazine, June 1993, p. 46: "I like Darren, he is my friend! I like you AND him--he likes me and I like him!! He likes you, I HOOOOPE! I LIKE HIS AUTOGRAPH, IT IS A NICE PICTURE!!!!! HE IS NIIIIICCEE!!!" ... the jingle for "Sugar Sod Pops"? "If you like grass, if you like dirt, eat Sugar Sod Pops, it can't hurt!" For some odd, this bumper has been dropped from its spot in the show containing "The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen." Since this isn't one of the better outings for a R&S bumper and there were time constraints for the show (the intro was cut), it was dropped. ... the Oath? "I do hereby promise only to watch the Ren & Stimpy show, to make under-leg noises during the good scenes, to wear unwashed lederhosen every single day of the rest of my life." At least one poster claims 'under-leg' is underling, but the consensus is for the former. Under-leg noises being farts, of course. (Hardly an episode goes by that someone doesn't cut one). Underlings are people working under a boss. So the former makes more sense. By the way, Under-leg is the proper spelling, not "underleg," according to the R&S calendar. (Also appeared in the R&S Comics) ... the words to the "New Fan Initiation" Oath Of Servitude? (Bring $1 million in small change before reciting:) I, (Insert Full Name Here), human, promise to watch the R&S Show until my eyeballs implode, even if it goes into 10 years of reruns! (And?!) I promise to memorize whole episodes and recite the lines shamelessly in unwelcome situations. (And? And? Oh Yeah!) I promise to wear unwashed lederhosen every single day of the rest of my life! (That's It! You're in our secret club!) ... Nurse Stimpy's oath? "I do solemnly swear by the sacred bedpan to fix the patient, and ease his wretched suffering, even until all hope is lost." ... The Muddy Mudskipper theme song? "Who's the greatest mudskipper of them all? Who can skip in the mud with the greatest of ease? What kind of wonderful guy? Who can crawl like a dog without scraping his knees? [*] Who's got segmented eyes? It's Muddy Mudskipper, it's Muddy Mudskipper It's the Muddy Mudskipper show!" [*] According to WCK (a Film Threat publication), they claim the line should be "Who can skip in the mud without breaking his knees." Which one is correct? ... Stimpy's "Gritty Kitty" poem? "Gritty Kitty ain't so pretty, but it's really thick It fills my cat box oh so snug, it always does the trick I like to rub it on my toes and squish and squish and squish It ne'er offends my tender nose, like a smelly fish Its texture is a joy to me, it's just as smooth as silk It makes my little whiskers twitch, it stays crunchy even in milk I may not be the president, I may not be the pope But as long as I have Gritty Kitty, I shall never mope." ... The "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song? "Hello, boys and girls. This is your old pal, Stinky Wizzleteats. [*] This is a song about a whale. No! This is a song about being happy! That's right! It's the Happy Happy Joy Joy song! [chorus] Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy! I don't think you're happy enough! That's right! I'll teach you to be happy! I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs! Now, boys and girls, let's try it again! [chorus] If'n you aint the grandaddy of all liars! The little critters of nature... They don't know that they're ugly! That's very funny, a fly marrying a bumblebee! I told you I'd shoot! But you didn't believe me! Why didn't you believe me?! [chorus without last line] Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy!" * Stinky's last name debate is over. The calendar of R&S and the flood of fall 1992 articles about our twisted twosome (including U.S.A. Today newspaper) has supported "Wizzleteats." ... Ren's speech just before going to sleep in "In The Army?" "Good night, Stimpy. Now all I need is eight hours of uninterrupted sleep." ... Ren's speech after the peeling-H-bombs scene in "In The Army"? "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's why he's gonna kill us. So we have to beat it. Yeah. Before he lets loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" ... The Hangin' Song in "Out West"? "OOOOhhh, Lord loves a hangin', that's why he give us necks It tightens up our vocal chords, and loosens up our pecs. So if you are a horse thief and guilty to the bone, Go ahead and blame a friend and you won't hang alone! It may be hard to swaller, but you'll be three feet taller, And find new ways to entertain your friends. You say you are a villian, but can't abide by killin', Go ahead and steal yourself a horse. Two three eleven or five seven [take it, boys]. I'm a pickin' and I'm a swingin'! I'm ignorant, and I'm ugly! That you are, boys. OOOOhhh, The Lord loves a hangin', and so do we by heck! So go and get a lasso and decorate your neck! Oh we is awful ignorant and uglier than sin, so go ahead and cut us down... And hang us all again! Hangin', that is. Swing a spell. (Ya'll bring the kids next time, ya hear?)" [*] [*] This line was edited out at the last minute. This line came from the article from _Film_Threat_ magazine. ... the words to the "Royal Canadian Yaksmen Anthem"? Follow the bouncing Ren as you sing! (Karaoke Time:) "Our country reeks of trees, Our yaks are very large, And they smell like rotting beef carcasses. And we have to clean up after them And our saddle sores are the best. We proudly wear women's clothing And searing sand blows up our skirts. And the buzzards, they soar overhead, And poisonous snakes will devour us whole, Our bones will bleach in the sun. And we will probably go to /hell/ [*], And that is our great reward, For being The-uh Ro-yal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen!" (Repeat As Necessary) [*] Hell is never said but is bleeped out all the time and is crossed out in the Karaoke section. (And yes, Karaoke is spelled correctly!:) ... Ren's crazy speech in "Space Madness"? "...I'll just lie back and think pleasant thoughts. Chicken pot pie... Chocolate covered RAIsins... EEGlazed Hammmmm... They think I'm crazy... But I know better... It is not I who am crazy... It is I who am MAD!... Didn't you hear 'em? Didn't you see the crowds?!! Oh my beloved ice cream bar... How I love to lick your creamy center... eeyaaarghruch... eeyaarghrunch... eeyaarghrunch... And your oh-so-nutty chocolate covering... You're not like the others... You like the same things I do... Wax paper... Boiled football leather... Dog breath... WE'RE NOT HITCHHIKING ANYMORE... WE'RE RIDING... (Stimpy: "Stop it. You're talking crazy") Oh no... I know what you want... You coveteth my ice cream bar! (Stimpy: "Come on now") No you don't! You can't take it from me now! I've had this ice cream bar since I was a child... People... Always trying to take it from me... Why don't they leave me ALONE?!!! (Stimpy: "Easy now...") Back off man!!!... Don't make me use this... One step closer, I'm warning ya... Don't make me use it! Now you've done it! You... forced me to use it!!!... ... the words to Stimpy's Ode To Ren commercial? "What is a friend? A friend misses you when you are away, for even for a short while, A friend is always there to try your latest inventions, and to protect you from yourself, and only a true friend would scratch your back, pluck your eyebrows, do your nails, and brush your teeth all out of the goodness of his heart. Ren is my best pal. [Announcer: R&S - an ode to friendship.]" ... the words to the song about the board game in "Sven Hoek" ? "Don't whiz on the electric fence!" (TV Show Version) Someone timed a test print of the segment of this song and reported to the group that 3-4 lines of song is missing. The song has turned up on the R&S CD "You Eediot" in its full glory. ... the words Sven repeats in "Sven Hoek" ? From: David R. Zinkin (zinkin@eerie.acsu.buffalo.edu) I just checked my tape of "Sven Hoek" to confirm the quote. It's "Daaaah, he is Ole, you are Sven. He is Ole, you are Sven." Sven says it twice, once after Sven tells him to "say something intelligent" and once after Stimpy says "Daaah, hello, superior creature!" Editor's Note: Sven says this a total of four times and holds up his hat everytime he says it. {|8O) ... Mr. Horse's Spanish response in "World Crisis"? Ren claims it translates to "No sir, he doesn't like it," but Mike Loux discovered a hidden joke. From Mike Loux (mloux@rm42.ucc.uconn.edu): "Las cucarachas entran, pero no pueden salir." (The cockroaches enter, but they can't leave.) A reference to the Black Flag Roach Motel commercials' "catch phrase" that was popular in the United States. The original catch phrase was "Cockroaches check in, but they don't check out." ... the psychedelic "Climb Inside" song in "Jerry The Belly Button Elf"? (Someone posted it before, but once again, my fast deleting fingers purged it from my e-mail box. Thanks to them for sending it to me in the first place. Any changes to correct the lyrics are welcome!!) Climb Inside My Belly Button (repeated silently in the opening) Rainbow cinnamon gumdrop, Lemon and purple people are a plastic mystery, Radio bubblegum porkchop, Lilac lady will go down in history. (Chorus) Climb inside my world, Climb inside my belly button bean-bag plastic world! Mean trees bell bottom mind games, Pig pen henry juices prune juice everyday, Bye bye (?) businessmen snowflake, Rubbermen bouncing down the mushroom gravy highway. Climb inside my world, Climb inside my belly button bean-bag plastic world! Saffron teabag Narobi (spelling??), Parsley panda has a pepperoni pocket comb, Pipebag dripped with lasagne, Meatloaf monkey drives a moon-beam motor home. Climb inside my world, Climb inside my belly button bean-bag plastic world! 7b. What is the meaning behind or origin of... [ Much of the items that seem like obscure or trivial humor are in fact non sequiturs. There's no meaning. They're just there for the hell of it. ] ... Hwarfing? The action of Stimpy coughing up a hairball (usually on Ren). (This should end the debate on its spelling.) ... Vitamin "F" in "Powdered Toast With Vitamin 'F'"? "F" is for "Fart." (No big surprise:) ... "Raymond Spum" or "Spum"? Raymond Spum is a joke _and_ a made-up alias for John Kricfalusi. Anytime he didn't like a cartoon he worked on or was in protest about it, he used this fictitious name. John K. also used it in the first season credits. All the stories about him are fiction. Another "useless fact" is that "Wilbur Cobb" was based on Raymond Spum. When John K. and Spumco were thrown out unmercifully, Games had to change all references to Raymond to Wilbur. Blaine Erickson (erickson@uhunix.uhcc.hawii.edu) has posted to the group adding that "spum" is not a real Danish word, and that the Danish word for quality is "kvalitet". John K. has claimed that "spum" is a brand name of a product in Denmark. From Michelle Hass (michelle.hass@ledge.com): Spumco is named after the apocryphal "founding father of Animation," Raymond Albert Spum. Well, that's not QUITE right...ok, ok....Spumco is a word which means absolutely nothing, except it sounds bizarre and vaguely Germanic/Scandinavian. The origin of the motto "The Danes call it quality" is in the fact that Spumco originally shared an office building with a recording studio called Quality Sound. Spumco now uses Quality Sound's recording room and has in its possession some archaic sound equipment formerly owned by the studio. One of the names that John K. was throwing around for his animation studio was "Quality Pictures" or "Quality Animation." It apparently was a bit too normal for his tastes. ... "George Liquor"? In _Film_Threat_ magazine, John K. said that he saw a sign in the late seventies with the words "George Liquor". He was so crazy over the name (and the fact that someone forgot to put in the possessive) that he went and drew the picture. (The sign was for a business selling alcohol, obviously.) By the way, his cousin's name is Corn Liquor and was going to appear in a future episode called "Hillbilly Hoek" (_Cinfantastique_ magazine). (This episode will probably not be produced unfortunately or has been warped into "Farm Hands.") From Michelle Hass (michelle.hass@ledge.com): "George Liquor" was an actual liquor store in Van Nuys, CA, at the corner of Sherman Way and Van Nuys Blvd. The store is long gone, and the original building was recently razed to make room for a Blockbuster Music store. See the George Liquor section in this FAQ for more details. ... "Stinky Wizzleteats"? According to _Cinfantastique_ magazine, it came from "The Littlest Giant" when Bob Camp talked about Ren's Cow's "Wizzled Teats". John K. loved it so much, he used it as a name. ... The Crocostimpy Bus? [ "Untamed World" ] Non sequitur. For the original joke according to _Cinfantastique_ magazine, the Crocostimpy was going to say "What's The Big Sleep, Ren?" (a reference to Big House Blues quote by Stimpy) and hop onto the bus. A bunch of lady Crocostimpies were going to follow the bus on foot and yell "He's dead, you idiot! Don't you know what dead is?" Now you know the rest of the story. ... The face that rises and sets over Hollywood during "Stimpy's Big Day?" From ebh@mink.att.com: The face is apparently Kirk Douglas. According to John K., Kirk Douglas was the [partial?] inspiration for Ren. ... "We're not hitchhiking anymore! We're riding!" [ "Space Madness" ] From jeffy@athena.mit.edu: This is apparently from the movie "Centurion." The line was delivered by Kirk Douglas (see below). From Jon Bondurant (gowan@sugar.NeoSoft.COM): This is actually wrong. I've seen the movie several times and it's actually _Champion_. Kirk Douglas plays a loner who boxes one night to get out of debt and later decides to take it up as a profession. At one point, he goes off the deep end and becomes very self-serving and full of himself. He tries to convince his brother, Connie, that it's all for the best. (paraphrased) "C'mon, Connie..we're in the big time, we've made it. We're not hitchhiking any more, we're riding!" It's actually a pretty good movie. ... The various narrations in the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song? "I'll teach your grandmother to suck eggs" This apparently paraphrases an old saying. There are many film and TV uses of this phrase. It means (roughly) to teach someone what they already know. Furthermore, "to suck eggs" is apparently a euphemism for nosing into other people's business. From zeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu: "The little critters of nature -- They don't know that they're ugly." This is a line from the film "Summer Magic" starring Berl Ives and Hayley Mills. ... Ren's various insane ravings? So far Ren has been portrayed as being outright insane in at least two cartoons (his general level of sanity is as questionable as any cartoon character's, of course, but we're talking serious psychosis here): "In The Army" after he's done peeling H-bombs, and in "Space Madness". During both of these intervals Ren gives speeches that are as nutty as a fruitcake. Talking about running from marmosets, boiled football leather, things like that. As far as the net knows (at the moment), these are simply things that the writer(s) thought were silly enough for a raving looney to think sensible. ... the man playing the accordian in "Sven Hoek" ? This is the first live action character on the show. From the many pictures I have seen in the different pictures, it looks like Bob Camp. It appears to be a "throw together" opening; according to _Cinfantastique_, it was put together at the last second. The latest word has it that it IS Bob Camp. ... Husband and Wife from "The Boy Who Cried Rat!" and several others? John Kricfalusi is said to be a big fan of J. R. "Bob" Dobbs and Connie of the SubGenius culture. They are an incarnation of a married couple of the 1950s and the like. Otherwise known as "Mr. and Mrs. Pipe" or the '50s suburbanites. Their official names are "Husband" and "Wife." "Husband" is voiced by Billy West, and Cheryl Chase voiced "Wife." (I knew the latter, but thanks to Michelle for the former.:) (If you want any other quotes or segments explained or included with explanations, please e-mail me.) 8. Is it "No sir, I _DON'T_ like it", or "No sir, I _DIDN'T_ like it"? Both. "Don't" is heard in "Stimpy's Big Day/The Big Shot," and "didn't" is heard in "Fire Dogs," and "Marooned." In Season II we have a new variation in "Out West:" "WELL sir, I don't like it." Another variation is in "Rubber Nipple Salesmen:" "WEll sir, I don't think I have a use for rubber nipples!" By the way, Billy West is now doing Mr. Horse. Games Productions, according to his speech at Miami University, plans to use Mr. Horse as a remembrance to John K., not as a weapon against him. Mr. Horse will generally be used infrequently with non-speaking parts. Mr. Horse has appeared as a cameo on several cartoons but has starred in two bumpers. Yes sir, those appearances were Emmy material! :) FYI: He is on the picture in Anthony's bedroom in "Visit To Anthony" and on Ren's wall (behind Stimpy and the flensing machine) in "Nurse Stimpy." END OF PART ONE -- SEE PART TWO FOR THE REST OF OUR R&S FAQ! The Ren and Stimpy FAQ (C) 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995 Norman G. Sippel -- ____ ,------------------------------------------, . _ . /# /_\_ | "Part One Is Over. 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