Present:
Master Sandman
Master Zoran
Master Kazar
Jarl Hunter
Master Dak
Master Venator
Master Austin
Master PAX
Master Kuurus
Mistress Sissy
ruby~{Randolph}~
rykl{Frederick}
natasha{Zoran}
larissa{Austin}
moira {Venator}
ayli{Dak}
swtpea{PAX}
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 19:48:33 pm CST
I will take over
Here is a topic
Is honor on Gor the same as it is on earth?
Kuurus Assassin 19:49:02 pm CST
Tal and greetings
Sissy 19:49:25 pm CST
I'm gonna say Aye Zoran
ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:49:27 pm CST
hmmm..taps fingers to chin..pondering the topic
Kuurus Assassin 19:50:13 pm CST
honor comes in many ways.. on earth on Gor
Sissy 19:50:19 pm CST
Tal Kuurus
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 19:50:42 pm CST
When you think of honor it seems it is different on Gor as a slave would have less use of honor
Kuurus Assassin 19:51:28 pm CST
honor is honor not All/all see it the same
Sissy 19:51:36 pm CST
does a slave not honor her Master by the way she behaves & serves Zoran?
natasha{Zoran} 19:52:23 pm CST
Honor might mean different things to different people, there is not a unique definition
ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:53:07 pm CST
the Free live and die by Honor...per the books Honor makes a strong Man..along with gold, power, bodies of women and steel
Kuurus Assassin 19:53:31 pm CST
bodies of women now We/we are talking
Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 19:53:50 pm CST
One's word is their honor. Should be the same in GS as earth
ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:54:39 pm CST
blushes to Master Kuurus
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 19:54:43 pm CST
Is that not obedience?
Myself honor is in my word. If I say I am going to do something it is true
But Gor being a savage world, is it the same?
Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 19:55:16 pm CST
honor or honour as many around the world spell it ....is any easy word to say no matter what definition is favoured..but words are as naught....in deed is all that
counts...and I would say indeed honor is a scarce commodity in both places these days
Sissy 19:56:07 pm CST
Honour (also honor in American English, see spelling differences) is an abstract concept entailing a perceived quality of worthiness and respectability that affects both the
social standing and the self-evaluation of an individual or corporate body such as a family, school, regiment or nation. Accordingly, individuals (or corporate
bodies) are assigned worth and stature based on the harmony of their actions with a specific code of honour, and the moral code of the society at large.
Venator-Warrior 19:56:31 pm CST
Zoran, given we are in a city of outlaws, unsure honor is displayed as on Earth.
Kuurus Assassin 19:57:36 pm CST
rti
Sissy 19:57:37 pm CST
I would hope that it would be Zoran...if you offered to protect me in the Tavern I would hope that you would honor your word
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 19:57:37 pm CST
Well said Sissy and Hunter
ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:58:08 pm CST
girl thinks honesty, integrity and fairness is the main source of honor..
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 19:59:13 pm CST
That is kind of how I feel, Venator
Yes, you hope your Captains have honor.
But one has to be wary in our home, laughs
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:00:12 pm CST
Make sure my fingers are not crossed, Sissy
But that goes back to trust of the person you ask
Venator-Warrior 20:01:05 pm CST
There can certainly honor in our dealings with others, but the setting of our home does not promote honor in all roleplay situations.
Sissy 20:01:14 pm CST
LOL Zoran I trust No one but that is just me
Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:01:30 pm CST
Captains?...well now theres a scarce commodity also....Chuckles
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:02:15 pm CST
I agree, Venator
I have always given Jondalar a lot of jokes as we both have made some gold
well in shady dealings
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:02:26 pm CST
agrees Mistress Sissy
the highest Gorean Code is to display Honor to ones Home Stone...in fact the Free should stand when the Home Stone is referred to...like a Countries Flag
that said, at the period Wwe role play Port Kar has not aquired a Home Stone
Venator-Warrior 20:03:08 pm CST
For this Master, when I note one's actions and words overlap well, then the potential for honor exists.
Sissy 20:03:50 pm CST
I wonder why Port Kar has no Home Stone ruby..does it say in the books?
Austin - Scholar- 20:06:09 pm CST
Walks in quietly
larissa{Austin} 20:06:47 pm CST
eyes lighting up as she sees her Master
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:07:11 pm CST
Mistress Sissy
yes
in Raiders of Gor
when Port Kar went to naval war with Cos and Tyros..Tarl Cabot sent Fish out to bring back a plain stone..to rally the troops..it worked Port Kar won a great victory..
Sissy 20:07:49 pm CST
Thank you ruby
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:09:40 pm CST
Does anyone have another topic?
Venator-Warrior 20:10:03 pm CST
Sees mine, pats my lap.
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:10:19 pm CST
that was the year 10,120...Wwe role play a time period just before
Dak 20:10:23 pm CST
Aye, But GS is based on the period of time BEFORE the Homestone !
Austin - Scholar- 20:11:16 pm CST
points to mine.. to come where she belongs
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:11:16 pm CST
yes Master Dak
larissa{Austin} 20:12:43 pm CST
inches her way over to her Master's side.. placing a light kiss on his cheek.
moira {Venator} 20:13:10 pm CST
Slips in and finds girl's Master
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:15:45 pm CST
Next topic
When a Master is in the Tavern and slave is in private
Should she not go and serve?
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:17:51 pm CST
I take back this topic
I have another
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:18:19 pm CST
yes Master Zoran...slaves are taught to do so, unless in service privately
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:20:34 pm CST
What can we do as members of GS when we are abandoned by most of our leadership?
Do we stand by and watch are beloved home burn?
Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:21:42 pm CST
It depends if its a privately owned slave and on the owners rules....for a gs slave yes she should....that said it sseems to defeat the whole purpose of this home to stay in
private in those circumstances
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:21:59 pm CST
thinks this is no buisness of a lowly slave
listens to the Free
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:22:37 pm CST
All may speak freely
This is forum as long as it is respectful
Sissy 20:23:32 pm CST
Zoran I don't think anyone is abandoning GS I think that r/t issues keep some from being here as often
natasha{Zoran} 20:23:54 pm CST
isnt there already a precedent for it, precisely in the book that is being read now?
Austin - Scholar- 20:24:01 pm CST
If we are abandoned.. then for this Pledge.. I find it difficult to call it leadership... They are suppose to be our rudder and lead us in the correct direction... therefore
it they desire to not lead but to leave the mass by themselves I don't consider it what we would call leadership.. RT interference is not being abandoned.. in MHO
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:24:25 pm CST
aye Master Zoran..ruby learned long long ago to not interfere nor commeng with the Frees buisness
Venator-Warrior 20:25:19 pm CST
Zoran, we move forward, self govern if need be. Assist our slaves with their lessons until slave class restarts.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:25:40 pm CST
walking back into forum and sitting down
Austin - Scholar- 20:25:44 pm CST
Nods to Zoran
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:26:00 pm CST
Sissy we all have rt, myself I included
But I make time for here as that my choice
larissa{Austin} 20:26:10 pm CST
listens to the free... keeping her eyes casted low.
Sissy 20:26:40 pm CST
Zoran do you have a wife & kids in r/t?
Sissy 20:27:33 pm CST
now I do think those that disappear for long periods should be replaced by the Council
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:28:14 pm CST
Venator, I understand friend, I pledged as you did
But it does not mean we can not voice our opioin
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:28:14 pm CST
natasha...in the book Wwe are now reading Raiders of Gor...Our Hero Bosk has just been named to the Council of Port Kar, He took the place of a murdered Council Member Serbus
Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:29:23 pm CST
Well said by all....and I think there are none here without empathy for various situations that may arise...but the ship cant be allowed to stop and flounder in the heavy sea
just because a few oars go missing
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:30:16 pm CST
Sissy we have had many over the years to be lost at sea
And many to fill their spots
Austin - Scholar- 20:30:43 pm CST
Well said Hunter
Sissy 20:32:09 pm CST
and who has replaced Thorrn & Ramses?
moira {Venator} 20:32:55 pm CST
Or Master Kyoto?
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:33:08 pm CST
Thorrn is still a Captain
Ramses has not been replaced
Venator-Warrior 20:33:26 pm CST
When will slave class resume?
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:33:43 pm CST
Kyoto is still a Captain
Austin - Scholar- 20:33:56 pm CST
I will say from my thoughts only.. I enjoy seeing Sandman and Zoran in many of our activities.. It is enjoyable to listen and learn from them.. and on E Forum I also enjoy
the thoughts and dedication Randolph presents.. and Bretval's waning to take on the book club.. and Venators Thursdaynight activity night each month.. so in a way
we do have leadership that stirs us and we have those of our Hhome willing to take a role in leading activities.. this makes Oour home stronger..
larissa{Austin} 20:34:22 pm CST
quietly speaking, this girl has never even met Master Kyoto..
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:34:34 pm CST
Well said, Austin
natasha{Zoran} 20:36:01 pm CST
being relatively new, this girl doesnt know if the number of Captains is a set one or if there can be more or less, does anyone know?
Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:36:05 pm CST
that is true Austin all of it...and a good thing
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 20:36:07 pm CST
I have to go to rt, I will be back I hope
moira {Venator} 20:36:20 pm CST
Moira thought that was the point. Captains who no longer participate
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:39:29 pm CST
natasha...the s no limit to the numbers of Captains, per the web pages
Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:40:35 pm CST
effectively there is no first sword ...no slavemaster...two other captains all but drowned at sea
Venator-Warrior 20:41:35 pm CST
Hunter, and that is why we must encourage self sufficiency
Sissy 20:42:06 pm CST
I have no clue why one would be considered a Captain if they don't have enough Respect for their home to show up now & then
moira {Venator} 20:42:13 pm CST
And it will stay that way it seems
Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:42:35 pm CST
Hunter. Exactly. We fend for ourselves
Austin - Scholar- 20:43:49 pm CST
Will only say we don't know what their RT is ... so I leave my judgement to a generic feeling and not a specific one
Venator-Warrior 20:44:36 pm CST
Agreed Austin, a general tone.
Sissy 20:45:31 pm CST
I agree somewhat Austin but after 6 months then it should be obvious they aren't coming back
Sissy 20:46:14 pm CST
in Litas case she at least got word back to her home
moira {Venator} 20:49:07 pm CST
A fast email would do it.
Sissy 20:49:44 pm CST
exactly moira
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:50:48 pm CST
sorry was busy in rt as soon as I got back in.. back now
Sissy 20:51:03 pm CST
w/b SandMan
Venator-Warrior 20:51:35 pm CST
R/t has its challenges, however it seems there is minimal communication or back up plans
Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:52:41 pm CST
Their should always be some ready to step forward. Become Captains. Etc
Need more mentors to be trained
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:52:44 pm CST
thank you for offering your opinions Sissy tho I can tell you that Kyoto has been gone from here for longer periods and returned
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:55:11 pm CST
the same with Thadron
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:56:29 pm CST
and frankly I remember when the Council had dwindled down to Ulrich and myself,, with Thadron as Advisor,, then Ulrich disappeared
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:57:16 pm CST
and all issues before the Council in recent times have been handled and resolved
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:58:43 pm CST
the Council of Captains are NOT here to direct your rp, something that frankly has been lacking beyond Sparring ( to the credit of Zoran and several of you) occasionaly
drinking and eating in the tavern and a festival now and then
Austin - Scholar- 20:59:15 pm CST
Sandman ........... Just want to say you are appreciated in the utmost.. and a role model for Uus..
Sissy 20:59:34 pm CST
but what is there to be resolved when no one is ever here SandMan...when I look in I see nobody except on forum night or slave class
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:59:35 pm CST
so I look to each and every one of you especially the free to tell me how you can make the place a living breathing gorean site where everyday activities occur
Dak 21:00:26 pm CST
*s*, at one time I thought I wanted to be a Captain, *s*
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:00:59 pm CST
Sissy, the Council discusses issues in private not public, including accepting pledges, raising slaves to trainers, and recently approving Bretval to revive the evening Book club
PAX 21:01:30 pm CST
Taking a seat and reading back
Sissy 21:02:16 pm CST
SandMan I know the Council does
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:03:08 pm CST
ohh and not so very long ago removing Ramses and raising Zoran to associate
Sissy 21:03:57 pm CST
associate to who or what?
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:04:31 pm CST
growling,, to Advisor to the Council
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:04:51 pm CST
a position that leads to being named a Captain
Sissy 21:05:11 pm CST
Thank you for clearing that up SandMan there is No need to growl at me
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:05:28 pm CST
and Sissy, I too have visited the site when no one else is here,,, but don't recall ever complaining about where all of the patrons were
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:05:50 pm CST
not growling at you dear, at myself for a typo
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:06:24 pm CST
and thank you for your kind words, Austin
Sissy 21:06:45 pm CST
SandMan I haven't complained either..its No fun to sit in the Piazza alone so I don't complaine
Sissy 21:07:19 pm CST
jerks the "i" from that word
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:10:26 pm CST
aye, that is true Sissy, its no fun and a waste of time, something that none of us seem to have an abundance of these days
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 21:11:20 pm CST
I would like to say on behalf of Sandman
He has always tried to be here if not for long but be here
I hope with my appointment as Advisor that we will build from this point
We have a great group here
I have seen many Captains over my time come and go
But what keep this place going is the great pledges
I saw life again and it is why I stayed
Well, that and a sexy slave
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:11:49 pm CST
and one other thing while I am on this soapbox.. I appreciate how many of you volunteered to help with the last festival
Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 21:12:13 pm CST
Zoran sexy slave helps wink
ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:12:15 pm CST
well said Master Zoran
Austin - Scholar- 21:13:05 pm CST
Seriously agrees with Zoran...
and LOL I think the slave girl you have was such a great catch... you had to stay Bro chuckles
natasha{Zoran} 21:13:05 pm CST
grins and plops her sexy but bountiful ass back in her Master's lap
Sissy 21:14:04 pm CST
I pledged here many many years ago Zoran and due to conflicts with another FW here I asked for my pledge to be removed..I'm not complaining about anything I'm simply stating
fact as hard as it is for some to hear
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 21:14:04 pm CST
Grins with a wink to Kazar
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:14:05 pm CST
thank you Brother Zoran, sitting down in my chair
PAX 21:14:06 pm CST
I would agree with you Zoran, I see a renewed Tavern over time
moira {Venator} 21:14:21 pm CST
Winks at natasha, well done
ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:14:25 pm CST
Master Sandman
Se'Kara was a great festival, this year...it proves what can be done, with effort and alligence to Oour Home
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 21:15:18 pm CST
We know you’re not complaining Sissy, and I think the same Fw is part of the reason I left laughs
Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:16:00 pm CST
I can only speak from My own heart and say this... some acknowledgements or even truths about a range of things that have shaken the foundations of this place which is My
home would go long way towards restoring faith....and respect which is another word like honor, easily said but not so easy to maintain
but I wont hold My breath
ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:17:45 pm CST
allegiance even...lol
Austin - Scholar- 21:17:59 pm CST
Nods to ruby
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 21:18:16 pm CST
I speak from my heart
When I said I would be an Advisor
I took it to heart and I made a commitment to GS
I would be here for our Home
I know Sandman is the same as he watched this place dwindle to very few and stayed
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 21:20:50 pm CST
Does anyone have anything else on this topic?
Austin - Scholar- 21:20:53 pm CST
What is great is that we have a pillar in Sandman... and Zoran your complete commitment to GS..
Venator-Warrior 21:21:06 pm CST
None here, Zoran.
Sissy 21:21:22 pm CST
nope
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 21:21:38 pm CST
Nods to Junior
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:21:58 pm CST
none here Zoran
Austin - Scholar- 21:22:40 pm CST
None here Zoran
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 21:23:01 pm CST
Well I will then close forum
Thank you all for your input tonight
Thank you my sexy slut for scribing
larissa{Austin} 21:23:11 pm CST
a passive voice, Master Zoran, girl has nothing.
ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:23:20 pm CST
nothing more from this beast Master
natasha{Zoran} 21:23:35 pm CST
thank You, my Master for leading forum
Venator-Warrior 21:23:38 pm CST
Thank you for leading Zoran and natasha for scribing.
larissa{Austin} 21:23:38 pm CST
Thank you Master Sandman and Master Zoran for leading
and natasha for scribing
PAX 21:24:10 pm CST
My thanks Zoran
Sissy 21:24:19 pm CST
Thank you SandMan & Zoran for leading
and Blessed Be
ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:24:35 pm CST
thank You Master Sandman and Master Zoran for leading
sweet natasha for scribing
Austin - Scholar- 21:24:45 pm CST
Thank you Zoran for leading
thank you natasha for scribing
Zoran Merchant ~Advisor~ 21:24:54 pm CST
Tal Pax, it is good to see you, friend
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:25:05 pm CST
and thank you all for attending forum. I look forward to seeing many of you in GS rp'ing gorean life
PAX 21:25:12 pm CST
Thank you natasha for scribing
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:25:31 pm CST
and Thank you Brother and your pretty tasha
moira {Venator} 21:25:48 pm CST
Thanks for leading Masters Sandman and Zoran
Thanks for scribing natasha
ayli{Dak} 21:26:09 pm CST
Thank You Master Sandman and Master Zoran for leading
thank you natasha for scrbing
