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Present:

Sandman
Zoran
Rollo
Hunter
Venator
Austin
Frederick
PAX
Crusader

natasha
larissa
ruby
moira
tamara
kianna
aura
aurora
rykl
zora
flicka

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:34:32 pm CDT
I have the first topic
I want all to be honest with how they feel
In GS now would you say there is a clique as this has been brought up on the boards ?

Venator-Warrior 19:36:09 pm CDT
Zoran, in a group, is it not normal for some to be drawn to those that think and see things similar to yourself?

Kuurus Assassin 19:36:32 pm CDT
GS has always been known for cliques

Kuurus Assassin 19:36:49 pm CDT
they have existed for years

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 19:37:33 pm CDT
Zoran there was a time all stayed in the tavern``it's a double edged sword no Captains no slaves ~`
think Clique is the wrong word~~~ ~

Kuurus Assassin 19:37:52 pm CDT
find one Kazar

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 19:38:20 pm CDT
K good answer~~

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:38:26 pm CDT
taps fingers to chin...pondering the topic

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:38:32 pm CDT
Agree with Venator
Kurrus I agree with you but I feel that GS at least. Clique it has ever been

Kuurus Assassin 19:38:44 pm CDT
non topic ruby.. just fact

Venator-Warrior 19:39:23 pm CDT
It is human nature to gravitate to those you identify with on topics.

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:39:46 pm CDT
Well Kazar I think that is how use to be
But I know for a fact the other night the room was wild and dancing
No Captains

Kuurus Assassin 19:40:08 pm CDT
Mistress who can in their mind only provide shelter for slaves....

spitting on the ground

natasha{Zoran} 19:40:16 pm CDT
that depends

if by clique it is meant an exclusive group where others are not allowed in.. then this girl doesn't think so

but if it means gravitating naturally to those you feel more affinity with, then yes, but it doesn't mean it is exclusive of others.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:40:22 pm CDT
perhaps a clique of sisterhood...an unbreakable bond of sisterhood

Kuurus Assassin 19:40:41 pm CDT
perhaps ruby?

Kuurus Assassin 19:40:51 pm CDT
no perhaps.. girl

kianna{GS} 19:41:17 pm CDT
kia thinks it is more congregate to friends.. when you are friends you stick together and bond together.. you enjoy each others company is that not what chat is for?
the hard thing is at times when someone is new to the said area and tried to get in often they feel outside as well they have not been through the things the others have been through together.. but with time and learning one can break into groups.. or make their own path laughing softly kia kinda beats to her own drum.. and does not think she has ever been totally part of a group but loves all to the best of her ability.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:41:47 pm CDT
with due respect Master Kuurus
thats what a girl voiced

Kuurus Assassin 19:41:53 pm CDT
for Those/those who have been here.. Larissa and her following..

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:41:54 pm CDT
I feel you are right ruby as the girls of GS are very close
Smiles to mine
I don't think I have ever see. Anyone left out

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 19:42:01 pm CDT
No there is no clique or cliques..in My view....except as flicka puts it in a fine way...listen....maybe sometimes folks band together...and there are opposing factions now and again....it is gor after all ..but GS has a way of wearing that down and assimilating things into the whole....even while we are all individuals at the same time..and when needs demand it there are the canals or swords and Kuurus to sort things out

Kuurus Assassin 19:42:03 pm CDT
I know ruby

Kuurus Assassin 19:42:30 pm CDT
when was the last death here.. Hunter?

Venator-Warrior 19:43:03 pm CDT
Agreed kianna, having been the new person, you must find the places where you can interact with the group until you are a known entity.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 19:43:19 pm CDT
one tends to stay with others whom they feel comfortable with `~ not saying that's a Clique~` one isn't in high school where there were cliques if one wasn't in the elite group etc ~

Master of one - Owner of torri 19:43:22 pm CDT
~ nods at kianna's words
Sometimes, to fit in it is best to be silent and learn the ways of the group

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 19:43:23 pm CDT
flicka said what she felt on the cork board. It is true that people of like minds will gravitate to each other, as far as flicka is concerned that is toward Gorean Shores. And while we can be exclusive, it should never be exclusionary.

Rollo the Ax 19:43:36 pm CDT
LOL.. Our own opinions ?? Of course there is a or are cliques !!!!

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 19:44:22 pm CDT
K ~last one was dew attacking Lita we resurted Lita banned dew ~to my knowledge

Kuurus Assassin 19:44:43 pm CDT
some need death

Rollo the Ax 19:44:55 pm CDT
Simple membership in GS could never be equated to a * clique *.... by definition a clique is a smaller group within a larger one ....

tamara{Kyoto} 19:45:05 pm CDT
in whatever group you are in, you will always congregate to the one that you get along with the best. it doesn't matter -what- group you are in, it's human nature. as for all the slaves, not once have i found one not willing to help me. clique is a strong word, just because someone is not overly friendly the first time you meet them doesn't mean anything. i even myself know i'm not easy to get to know, but people just need to get people a chance.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 19:45:18 pm CDT
flicka exactly

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:45:22 pm CDT
Hunter as we both have been around
This place was split into two factions and it was very ugly
I left because of it
It got so bad that assassins were hired to kill certain people
So I think it is much better now

Rollo the Ax 19:46:45 pm CDT
But to just * shut up, and not make your thoughts known * is not only cowardness, but not Gorean, Mo1 ....

PAX 19:47:08 pm CDT
Takes awhile to become "known"

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 19:47:18 pm CDT
K of course one being a assai n ~

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:47:51 pm CDT
Well said tamara
I remember the first time I met you laughs
Rollo who is this clique
I don't see it?

Master of one - Owner of torri 19:48:31 pm CDT
I'm not saying shut up Rollo....but learn the ways, how the group functions, the expectations and rules if you will..... Don't come in like a bull in a china shop

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:48:55 pm CDT
Jarl Rollo
girl agrees

however
ruby thinks some self editing would be wise

Rollo the Ax 19:49:42 pm CDT
a clique, is a clique ..... if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, you sure can't call it a vulo.... the point of contention comes when the ACTIONS of any clique call into question any or all of it's members......

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 19:50:29 pm CDT
Master Rollo with respect, sometimes it is better to not jump in with both feet until you have tested the water. The same for our home, the wise Master or slave sits or kneels back and watches, listens and learns. There is no cowardice in that.

tamara{Kyoto} 19:50:29 pm CDT
as a new person coming into a site, you will always feel left out. then if something is taken wrong, people are quick to judge that person. people been hurt multiple of times and they are quickly ones to try to protect themselves. however talking things out is a lot better than anything else. it could be more welcoming yes, but everything in life can have more improvement.

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:51:39 pm CDT
So because I might defend my brothers Austin and Venator
Does that make us a clique?

PAX 19:52:12 pm CDT
I agree flicka, listen and learn get to know GS

Kuurus Assassin 19:52:17 pm CDT
I would defend Rollo with My life

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 19:52:38 pm CDT
may aura respectfully ask who is in this clique? its been spoken of so much, yet aura feels she hasn't seen it....

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 19:52:51 pm CDT
the clique we are discussing is something that denies access to others ...I still say there are none of those....comradeships are not cliques. ...not in that negative connotation....everyone here is accessible ....I know because all speak to Me...of course I can only speak for Me

rykl.{Frederick} 19:53:07 pm CDT
Ry remembers when she was new here
She was afraid to say or do anything
She clung to her Masters leg and when he wasn't around she asked her trainer ruby millions of questions
But above all she was quiet and observing
And sometimes she felt left out but only because she was unsure
Now ry tries very hard to include all...especially friendly with new people

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 19:53:08 pm CDT
Zoran doesnt one always protect ones brothers ~`~

.to me it doesnt ~

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 19:53:11 pm CDT
~nodding in agreement with kianna and tamara.~

There is wisdom in your words tammy, we all feel awkward when we are new. It is the responsibility of the less new people to make newcomers welcome and to help them feel a part of our home.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:54:25 pm CDT
rykl
and look what a beautiful kajira, you have become..grinning from ear to ear

Frederick - Owner of rykl 19:54:52 pm CDT
-smiles at Mine as I recall just how often and how much she tried to make Me feel welcome when I fist found this place-

Rollo the Ax 19:55:08 pm CDT
sighs... Zoran, do you REALLY want me to use names when the blind can see just what is being said is it truly needed to add insult to injury ?? I have pledged to a Captain of the Council to * try my damnedest * to NOT stir up a bottomless pit of shit... but if you require such, tell me openly and I can do so ........

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:55:23 pm CDT
Laughs I remember I was new
I wanted to show off
I didn't know gor yet
I paid 100 gold pieces for a slave
Laughs that why I called her the golden one

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 19:55:24 pm CDT
sucks her lip in and listens .....trying to understand ....

rykl.{Frederick} 19:55:27 pm CDT
Smiles at ruby

Only because you were patient with this one and answered all one million questions

Kuurus Assassin 19:55:48 pm CDT
say it Rollo

natasha{Zoran} 19:56:08 pm CDT
like ry, when natasha arrived here, she was very unsure of herself, she didn't know anyone, so she mostly listened and learnt

time was all it took for her to create bonds with her sisters, she always felt welcomed by them

Kuurus Assassin 19:56:31 pm CDT
give Us/us names

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:56:35 pm CDT
Rollo I just want to know
If I am being clique is all
I would never purposely be that way

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:57:31 pm CDT
Rollo if any gets mad then They probably are part of an inner group

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 19:57:35 pm CDT
Jarl Hunter to You also flicka is nodding to vigorously. A comradeship/friendship call it what You will is only negative and perhaps deserving of being called a clique if it nasty/exclusionary to others.

Kuurus Assassin 19:57:53 pm CDT
NAMES

rykl.{Frederick} 19:57:55 pm CDT
-kisses my Master jawline-
Yours will continue to make You feel comfortable....-smiles with a blush-

aurora{Blackthorne} 19:57:57 pm CDT
agrees with Jarl Rollo - there has and always will be cliques whether it be social media, here, reality...its how we conduct ourselves within that group if we so choose to be part of one

The people we surround ourselves with will either raise or lower our standards
They either help us become the best version of ourselves or encourages us to become lesser versions of ourselves.

Rollo the Ax 19:58:05 pm CDT
Who says we are discussing such a style of clique ?? cliques are not sealed or not willing to admit new members.... they only require that anybody NEW swallow the KoolAid and think EXACTLY the same as the current members .....

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:00:04 pm CDT
We may want them to follow the ways of are home But that not drinking the cool-aid that being a good member

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:01:50 pm CDT
alright Rollo then any kind of clique..I accept that..and I do not question your long knowledge of how this place works..it is a given

Rollo the Ax 20:02:45 pm CDT
Zoran we.. you and I seem to be discussing two different lines of thought or understanding.... belonging to GS is not swallowing the Koolaid..... it is trying to be Gorean... the clique issue comes in when anybody does NOT agree with this * groups * thinking or opinion...

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:02:50 pm CDT
remembers when i was new here with Bretval `

was welcomed in `~ had a Mentor who took time to show newbie ~`~
one learns`~ `some are impulsive don't want to put in the time just go to the top ~~ maybe that rubbed a few the wrong way
give one credit he wants to learn he will take his lumps ~~ many of them on his way he will be better for it ~

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:03:50 pm CDT
Sighs
I think i will close this topic
For I think this is something that should be discuss with Captains around
Does anyone have a new topic

Austin - Scholar- 20:04:36 pm CDT
just listening

aurora{Blackthorne} 20:04:59 pm CDT
Master Zoran, with all due respect
i think it's a learning tool
it's important to read and understand what is being said
it's not meant as a bad thing
it's meant as a learning thing

Rollo the Ax 20:05:24 pm CDT
I am more than willing to drop this issue at this time.... but at Zoran's will... not any unwillingness on MY part to speak..... so lets let it drop.....

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:06:21 pm CDT
Zoran there is one here now `
Tal Sandman

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:06:30 pm CDT
~eyes light up as Master Sandman arrives~

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:06:38 pm CDT
walking in quietly from my rt duties and sitting down

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:06:40 pm CDT
so much has been voiced lately "Old Gor" vs "New Gor"...not truly understanding the meaning

is that the so called clique?

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:07:04 pm CDT
aurora as the way that i see it learning tool some take longer and learn the hard way

aurora{Blackthorne} 20:07:51 pm CDT
no, You misunderstand Master Kazar
that is not what is being said at all

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:09:24 pm CDT
aurora not talking about the cliques`~ but another scenario ~

moira {Venator} 20:09:50 pm CDT
This one feels, respectfully, that if topics were more specific instead of pussyfooting around, more would be accomplished

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:10:34 pm CDT
Does anyone have a topic

Venator-Warrior 20:10:56 pm CDT
Oh my, mine is thinking tonight. Smiles.

Venator-Warrior 20:11:20 pm CDT
None here, Brother.

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:11:38 pm CDT
moira so true.... aura gets so confused...

Austin - Scholar- 20:11:59 pm CDT
none here Zoran

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:12:25 pm CDT
Master Zoran may aura ask if anyone has heard from Jarl Thorrn?

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:14:55 pm CDT
With no topics
I will turn it over to Captain Sandman

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:16:39 pm CDT
I have a topic friend Zoran.. this place is supposed to be a Gorean RP site based on Port Kar.. my question is:

What has your character done over the last week--i.e. have any of the warriors escorted a convoy or been raiding,, have any of those of you who are merchants sold anything or made any deals?

kianna{GS} 20:18:41 pm CDT
kia danced for the Masters the other night and it was exhilarating

larissa{Austin} 20:19:40 pm CDT
kia, it was very beautiful from what this girl was able to see.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:19:43 pm CDT
Sandman been slim picking trying to raid ships lately `

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:20:24 pm CDT
~speaking softly~ If there is a clique, cabal call it what you will amongst the Free Persons within our Home, then it is the Captain's business to deal with it as They see fit. Friendships are not by definition destructive, the only important thing is the strength of our Home and the embracing of all.

If there is a clique/cabal forming amongst we slaves we will deal with it in slave class. ~warm smile to all of her sisters, in the full knowledge that nothing so destructive is happening, friendships yes, cliques no.~

Hmm that could be a slogan a little like Two legs bad, four legs good a la Animal Farm.

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:21:02 pm CDT
smiling thank you flicka

Rollo the Ax 20:21:37 pm CDT
LOL...as an old man I sleep a lot.... that and shoot off my mouth a lot ...... does that count as * action * ?? LOL...LOL...roaring with laughter......

zora{Austin} 20:21:44 pm CDT
Smiles to mistress

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:22:34 pm CDT
Rollo you have done plenty for our home over many years,, its ok for an old warrior to sleep late

Frederick - Owner of rykl 20:22:40 pm CDT
-laughs and winks

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:22:57 pm CDT
~blushing~ sorry Master Sandman, flicka was a little slow in her posting, didn't realize the topic was closed.

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:23:15 pm CDT
Jarl Hunter has a chain...therefore all other duties become secondary..ie no energy left for marauding

but I have somehow dragged My weary self into the tavern on a few occasions and been served well ..also spent time with friends discussing the veritable benefits of an urth with Monty Python in it

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:23:30 pm CDT
just make sure you don't fall asleep in the tavern,, no telling what some of the characters might do

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:24:10 pm CDT
my Jarl reached for His sword the other day...when an Assassin named Master Badass came looking to make a kill of a Master Zorin...the Master backed off to my Jarl's firm words

at the time Wwe thought He was speaking of Mentor Master Zoran
however Wwe learned it was entirely a different Master

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:25:22 pm CDT
Nothing such as that, Captain... ordinary things... and GRS

Rollo the Ax 20:25:31 pm CDT
I have to admit, brother Sandman.... the time I came in, things got a bit * un-gorean * as more Monty Python, John Wayne movies, and general stuff like that was discussed.... the price of paga or the weather on the Thassa was never brought up .......

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:26:03 pm CDT
flicka served a couple of times in the Tavern, and had some fun on her own in the Bathhouse, shaking out the towels and ensuring the water was the correct temperature. ~sweet smile~

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:26:37 pm CDT
gasps ...oh my Jarl is this ones heart and her so needy and greedy *grins and winks*

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:26:57 pm CDT
well I can tell you the shipyards have been slow, so any of you who need work on your ships are welcome to discuss what's needed and payment

kianna{GS} 20:29:39 pm CDT
thanks larissa smiles it was so fun to dance again!

PAX 20:30:43 pm CDT
Witnessed Randolph's confrontation best I can do

Rollo the Ax 20:31:41 pm CDT
brother Sandman ..... I have noted that on the message board a topic about * Gorean quotes * has been well used ...... with YOUR permission I have a mind to add a topic about * Viking sayings and knowledge * if such is okay with you and the Council....

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:31:46 pm CDT
Aye the price of paga and other such things was not discussed that particular time but many times that happens...many a time I have seen nothing about gor discussed..it's something that is a pet grievance...much as I fell into the hilarity of the occasion also it is not what I go in the tavern for

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:33:16 pm CDT
oh course Brother Rollo,, after all what is Tov'sLand but a Viking place

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:33:33 pm CDT
Master PAX, flicka reckons it would be fun if we had a pretend raid on the home. A little like a skirmish among friends. Some Masters could wear black berets and the others green and the baddies could be trying to steal we slaves, while the goodies where trying to protect us. All in good fun of course and no monkey business.

PAX 20:36:54 pm CDT
no monkey business.? hmmmmm I'll try anything once

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:37:41 pm CDT
nodding as I listen,, should like Gorean things have been slow,, the follow up question,, what does your character expect to do over the next week

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:38:35 pm CDT
Master Sandman .... aura wishes to tend to the herbs in the piazza and also do some sewing to bring in coin for her owner....

PAX 20:39:10 pm CDT
My plans are to learn of the weapons

kianna{GS} 20:39:14 pm CDT
kia hopes to get permission from the Captains to eat the tasta she was given by one of the Masters for her dances before it melts into a sticky mess on the Captain's Dais.

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:39:18 pm CDT
nodding sounds good pretty aura

Rollo the Ax 20:39:26 pm CDT
At times, Hunter, we all need a little * slack * to get by.... so the Monty Python thing is not all bad... for myself, I do not go into the tavern looking for drinks for fellowship... so at times, things will * wander * as it seems...... LOL..

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:40:11 pm CDT
waving to kianna, you have my permission girl,, enjoy your tasta

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:40:20 pm CDT
smiling Master Sandman
scribe
scribe
scribe

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:41:11 pm CDT
and some furring *giggles*

moira {Venator} 20:41:57 pm CDT
Attend slave class

kianna{GS} 20:42:06 pm CDT
thank you Master Sandman clapping her hands excitedly looking at larissa and smiling

Rollo the Ax 20:42:15 pm CDT
LOL...left a * but * out ..... drinks BUT fellowship ......

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:42:18 pm CDT
seriously
ruby will make a point to dance this week in the Tavern...my Jarl dances too...it's very erotic

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:42:22 pm CDT
well I keep threatening to dance with My mea

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:42:34 pm CDT
that is always a worthwhile thing aura

larissa{Austin} 20:42:59 pm CDT
giggles with kia. and winks

PAX 20:43:00 pm CDT
Bretval you'll have the time of your life

kianna{GS} 20:43:02 pm CDT
kia would like to dance again and she loves SERVING the Masters grins

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:43:04 pm CDT
Crusader ~~ grins since one has to much time on one's hands writes way too much ~taking away ones pen for a while think it needs a break ~ for a lil while ~

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:43:48 pm CDT
Sandman ~~ ~one needs to find some ships to raid more silks for the slaves more beer for the tavern grins

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:45:01 pm CDT
~smiles~ Jarl Keeper could do His sword dance again, but it was not very erotic.

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:45:12 pm CDT
Kazar my hand was getting tired anyways

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:46:42 pm CDT
I plan to watch slaves dancing in the tavern at every opportunity this week
~ winks and smiles to ruby and kia

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:46:55 pm CDT
Aye Rollo that is true indeed....Grinning

delayed response as an urt took Me

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:47:06 pm CDT
Crusader aye my friend~` ~~

Rollo the Ax 20:48:00 pm CDT
LOL...LOL...years ago, at a festival, I got talked into dancing ..... the closest comparison I got was a preforming bear riding a unicycle.... LOL...LOL... not again.......

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:48:00 pm CDT
oh and serving also Master of one, wouldn't do to be thirsty while You are watching the dances.

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:48:03 pm CDT
I always do Pax *grin*

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:48:09 pm CDT
Bretval grins lol can just picture that ~Lol not ~

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:48:27 pm CDT
I plan to check with the men here on what work is needed on their ships or their holdings,, my men also do building for Houses

kianna{GS} 20:48:33 pm CDT
whistles and guss guss runs out and chases the urt that had Jarl Hunter grinning as guss guss bites the urt in the ass.. chasing him away..

girl is sorry Jarl Hunter that the urt took you away and she has guss guss on the case so it will not happen again.

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:49:13 pm CDT
Yes flicka...I'm sure drinking will accompany said viewing

kianna{GS} 20:50:37 pm CDT
would also be fun to play games in the tavern again.

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:50:45 pm CDT
Master Rollo did You keep the dance? This girl would love to see it.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:51:05 pm CDT
Master Sandman
since the Builder Caste are inventors too...anything new on the horizon?

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:51:54 pm CDT
kianna `~lol Guess many rocks slaves are hiding `~

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:52:52 pm CDT
smiling to ruby ,, have been experimenting with rigging on ships but too soon to build a ship, much testing left to do

Rollo the Ax 20:53:38 pm CDT
LOL... it was many years ago, and several computers ..... so there is no chance it survived, flicka ..... thank the Gods ....

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:53:51 pm CDT
The Andromeda is well under construction and tis why I beg ale at times....lol...She will sail amongst the best ships on Gor here at Port Kar....and perhaps we are over due to visit Cos and Tyros with an armada

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:54:17 pm CDT
ahhh.. Master Sandman...grinning and nodding

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:54:42 pm CDT
Rollo can one find it in the corks ~~``

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:54:53 pm CDT
chuckling I would have paid good coin to see you Dance Brother

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:55:46 pm CDT
My ship is called Wamba.
It "stumbles" through the waves like a fool.

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:56:26 pm CDT
~nods~ yes Master Kazar perhaps it was logged, a girl will hunt through the corks and see if she can find it.

Master Rollo, ~sweet smile, ingenuous twisting of a lock of her golden hair~ You could always write it again.

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:56:52 pm CDT
oh my Jarl can the sluts come with you..... maybe you will collect more sisters for the chain...

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:57:14 pm CDT
Jarl Hunter
smiling...Your going to need an Armada

Cos and Tyros...are bitter enemies of Port Kar

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:57:28 pm CDT
Crusader have to help you there
mine is Mistress Mine

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:57:35 pm CDT
smiling and Brother I have a question hat has been posed to me,, a slave is required to obey a Master, but if the Master asks her to do something that is against the restrictions imposed by her owner---- should she obey, betray her restrictions and leave it up the Free to fight it out-- I do not recall seeing a case here where a slave didn't follow her restrictions nor one where a Master forced her over objections,,, do you recall this happening in the past

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:58:11 pm CDT
T'is a fine ship you have Kazar

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:58:27 pm CDT
hmmmm was it anything like a bosk let loose in the Tavern Rollo....

Rollo the Ax 20:58:46 pm CDT
LOL...stick around brother Sandman..... I seem to play the fool often enough so it should not be that much longer before a repeat .... LOL..

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:59:53 pm CDT
listens to further discussion...this was a topic at EForum earlier

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 21:00:00 pm CDT
Rollo ~~ somehow one thinks one is fairly smart

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 21:00:25 pm CDT
I think if a master try to force a slaved to go against her restriction
He might get fist in his face laughs

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 21:00:32 pm CDT
Sandman ~ have never seen that `

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 21:00:39 pm CDT
I have a few ships to add to an armada, Hunter

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:00:45 pm CDT
They are ruby..but I am sure Port Kar can be victorious ....*S*

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:01:15 pm CDT
~chuckling~ or a sword used on a vulnerable part of His anatomy Master Zoran?

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:01:17 pm CDT
A Master did that Zoran?

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 21:01:19 pm CDT
Master Sandman ....has that happened or is it just an in case it happens type of thing? aura asks this with respect...

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 21:01:21 pm CDT
Hunter my ship Wamba would make an ok fire ship

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:01:34 pm CDT
there are many fine ships here Hunter.. our enemies should fear

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:02:30 pm CDT
aura I haven't seen that happen which is why I addressed my question to Brother Rollo who has been of our home since its beginning

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 21:02:54 pm CDT
No I am just saying
In General Hunter
Laughs yes flicka he may be a high note hitter

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:03:05 pm CDT
indeed Jarl Hunter
tis why we celebrate Se'Kara...which is coming up soon - Sept 17th

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 21:03:53 pm CDT
Se'Kara?
I really need to look up the different celebrations.

rykl.{Frederick} 21:04:02 pm CDT
This question from the earlier forum has made ry do a lot of reflecting on what it means to be a Gorean slave
Even if this has never happened in the past or is likely to in the future
ry has thought hard about what she would do

Rollo the Ax 21:04:33 pm CDT
Long ago in the past there were cases of Masters TRYING such, brother..... the point being that THEY saw it as their will over the slaves instead of the slave following her OWNERS rules..... the issue was cleared up by simply making it clear to the offending master that the girl was in the right to ignore or not follow his orders..... the girls were scared but when push comes to shove, the RULES are the rules.. and any punishment the non owner tried to impose was washed away and the girl commended for doing what was right.......

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 21:05:34 pm CDT
*raises my hand*
If such a situation happened, and I was present, would that be an ok time for me to be a "knight in shining armor"?

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 21:05:50 pm CDT
So like all was done the right way

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 21:06:10 pm CDT
smiles to Master Sandman oh yes...silly aura *blushes madly*

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:06:19 pm CDT
flicka thinks her Jarl covered it pretty well at Euro forum:

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 14:42:06 pm CDT
Simple;
She does not obey and C & Ps it all.
Go to the kennels if need be.
One of the advantages Gor has over a "normal" chat room.
Protection of slaves.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 21:06:46 pm CDT
Crusader grins`~~ till one has pledged~~ would defer to let another step in unless there wasn't another Free there

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:07:02 pm CDT
I am hoping to know very little of sept 17th after its has been....having drunk far too much and fallen asleep amongst pillows of flesh...*L*

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:07:30 pm CDT
thank you Brother Rollo, so I think it is clear a slave is not dishonored or disobedient if she politely follows the wishes of her owner,, and I am sure most of our little dancers are also fast enough to run to the kennels if such a thing might happen

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 21:07:34 pm CDT
*chuckles*
Ay Kazar.

Was trying a bit of levity

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 21:07:35 pm CDT
Pretty much what was decided earlier, Rollo

LionHeart of Old 21:07:47 pm CDT
I am sorry I would love to "discuss" this, but rt calls Me

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:08:11 pm CDT
aye mistress flicka
Jarl Keeper summed up things well

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:08:19 pm CDT
well said Rollo and Keeper by way of flicka

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 21:08:31 pm CDT
Crusader slaves know how to deal with it way the Kennel is their safe heaven

Kuurus Assassin 21:08:43 pm CDT
I have ways to stop them from running

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 21:09:54 pm CDT
Yes that would be the time, Crusader.... to protect the property of Your Brothers

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:10:58 pm CDT
With respect Master Crusader, it would have nothing to do with being a Knight in Shining Armour and everything to do with protecting a Brother's property, as any pledged member of Gorean Shores would do.

Rollo the Ax 21:12:19 pm CDT
That is one of the * fine points * brother..... although it may seem * ungorean * or be said to be wrong in general... any slave being so harassed that she knows not what to do SUCH be allowed the use of the * logout * button ..... for a slave there is no disgrace in using discretion before valor *

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:20:56 pm CDT
at this point I am going to call forum to a close,, any who had questions up discussed please bring them to the next forum

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 21:22:07 pm CDT
Thank you for leading Master Sandman and Master Zoran .... thank you for scribing mistress flicka

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:22:18 pm CDT
Thank You Masters Zoran and Sandman for a great forum. ~blowing a soft kiss to Each~

Venator-Warrior 21:22:39 pm CDT
Thank you to Sandman and Zoran for leading and flicka for scribing.

larissa{Austin} 21:22:48 pm CDT
Master Sandman, thank you for leading,

and mistress thank you for scribing

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:22:54 pm CDT
Thanks to Captain Sandman and Zoran for leading

and to flicka for scribing

PAX 21:23:18 pm CDT
Thank you to Sandman and Zoran

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 21:23:27 pm CDT
Thanks Captain Sandman, and flicka

swtpea{GS~O} 21:23:31 pm CDT
thank you both for leading Master Sandman and Master Zoran and thank you for scribing mistress flicka

natasha{Zoran} 21:23:34 pm CDT
thank You for leading Master Sandman and my Master

and for lovely flicka for scribing

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 21:23:35 pm CDT
My thanks to Zoran and Captain Sandman for leading Forum
and of course to fg flicka for scribing once again