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Present:

Sandman
Zoran
Rollo the Ax
Kazar
Hunter
Venator
Austin
Master of one
Crusader

Sissy

ruby
moira
larissa
swtpea
aurora
tamara
natasha
torri
carina
mirren
kianna
flicka

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:42:26 pm CDT
ok folks lets get started

PM me topics

keep the cross talk in pms

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:43:44 pm CDT
perks up...listens intently as Forum is called to order

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:44:26 pm CDT
and remember,.,, we may all speak freely,, but show respect at all times

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:45:04 pm CDT
Yes very well said Sandman

tamara{Kyoto} 19:45:31 pm CDT
-settles to listen-

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:46:06 pm CDT
we have a topic:

While the GS web pages say that ANY Free GS member can offer or give a visiting/ bare necked slave an * O * collar so that they can learn and/or decide if they want to stay in GS it also says that it is the COUNCIL that decides or rather guarantees said slaves safety while in GS … The * O * collar is given to allow new slaves to learn and feel safe doing so for at least the limited time of the collar …. If such is the case, What rights do rank and file, or just plain GS members have to punish slaves wearing an *O * collar

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 19:46:09 pm CDT
Damn Master Sandman may flicka say rude things to her computer, it has decided to make her font miniscule? Not good for this bondmaid's tired old eyes.

Sissy 19:47:31 pm CDT
I thought only Council could discipline a slave that wears an "O" collar

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:48:06 pm CDT
no worries flicka take your time

Rollo the Ax 19:48:42 pm CDT
That is what I understood the rules to be also, FW Sissy.......

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 19:49:41 pm CDT
Master Sandman, with respect where does it say that on the web pages? A girl is not doubting its veracity but to make life easier would like to know the exact location.

The information regarding O collars is also contained on the cork boards, and in part it says this:

from Observation collar {GS~O~} details and procedures on the cork boards.

The observation collar, {GS~O~}, is a way for a new slave to be protected from forced collar to allow her to come in, observe, and learn the ways of Gor, specifically within GS.

It is simply a cloak of protection, and does not put her under the ownership of GS.

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:49:48 pm CDT
Sissy traditionally harsh discipline of a slave was left up to the owner's

a recalcitrant slave might be cuffed or slapped, but not whipped,, they might be chained to the whipping post or caged awaiting punishment by their owners

Sissy 19:50:13 pm CDT
I always assumed that since they wore the "O" collar they are technically Council property

Venator-Warrior 19:51:21 pm CDT
I thought GS slaves were Council property.

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 19:52:07 pm CDT
Master Venator, GS slaves are Owned by the Captains, girls in an o collar are not owned by anyone.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 19:52:30 pm CDT
flicka that's what i understood also
i think also gs -0 collar she can be used by the free since she isn't collared to the tavern yet ?./

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:52:33 pm CDT
shrugging it may be something that needs clarification,, but as flicka mentioned is primarily meant to give a slave time to observe and decide if they want a tavern color or not .. tho in fairness,, having a collar that reads "GS" does imply ownership

Venator-Warrior 19:52:42 pm CDT
So 'O' collar slaves could be reprimanded by any pledged Free?

Gogane 19:53:13 pm CDT
Leans back against the wall, drawing scroll in hand as I listen to the discussion

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:53:15 pm CDT
a slave in ~o~ is considered a guest in GS...she must beg entry into the Tavern

it was girl's thought that a "pledged" Free may cage or tie one to the whipping post..documented...then left for the Council if further discipline was in order

Rollo the Ax 19:53:22 pm CDT
being a * free neck * she is nobody's property.... but because she is given a * GS * o collar, she would there for be under Council protection.... correct ??

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:53:49 pm CDT
but I don't know that our pages say that an "O" collared slave is GS property

Sissy 19:54:05 pm CDT
I think a GS collar and an O collar are being confused by some

tamara{Kyoto} 19:54:22 pm CDT
what i understood about a slave in an o collar was one to watch and observe and just that, they didn't serve, they interacted, but they watched the others and observed and to see if this would be a place they would make a home. it simply gave them a cloak of protection so they wouldn't be swiped the moment they entered.

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:54:32 pm CDT
as for punishment someone was kind enough to retrieve this from the free pages:
. Punishing a slave:
While in the Books of Gor, there are quotes stating that any Free Person can or should punish any slave seen or found displeasing, in Gorean Shores and most online Gor sites, punishment of slaves is restricted to the slaves Owner, in Gorean Shores the rule is: if a slave does something wrong or is found displeasing or disrespectful that you feel she should be punished, your recourse is to inform the slave of your displeasure and request the email address of her Owner so you can contact him/her, tell the slave to tell her Owner that she was found displeasing and why and that you will be contacting said Owner.

The limit of any physical punishment that any Free Person can give a slave that is not their own, is to cuff a slave aside with the back of your hand or push them aside with your boot, or to take the slave to the whipping post in the middle of the sandpit and bind her there to await her own Owners punishment. You're not allowed to use a whip on a slave in Gorean Shores that does not belong to you without the permission of the slaves own Owner.

Sissy 19:55:18 pm CDT
exactly tamara that is my understanding

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:55:32 pm CDT
GS slaves are
Owned by council

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 19:55:41 pm CDT
It would seem that any Pledge can give an O collar to a guest that cares for it...so it would follow in theory that the O collar is not an ownership by anyone...simply a gesture of helpfulness

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 19:55:59 pm CDT
~nodding to ruby~ that is flicka's understanding also, even if a girl is not "owned" as such she is still subject to the constraints of respect to Free Persons and as such may be tied to the whipping post or even caged and the situation referred to the Captains.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 19:56:03 pm CDT
ruby that is correct ~

torri{Master's one} 19:56:14 pm CDT
This one understood {o} has the OPTION of serving if they wished...

Rollo the Ax 19:56:38 pm CDT
Does not the homepage also say something to the effect that she is given the o collar to LEARN and feel safe until knowledgeable enough to decide if she wants to call GS her home ??

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 19:59:52 pm CDT
Zoran that's a fair point, but they are not really safe if punishment is severe...at least that's what I think, but if I'm overruled so be it. Figuring these things out is what forum is about.

Rollo the Ax 19:59:54 pm CDT
Does not the * O * stand for * Observer * ?? one to be given a greater leeway than experienced slaves ??

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:59:58 pm CDT
To release a slave that has been put on a post can only be done by captains
Or the master that puts her there

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:00:31 pm CDT
Zoran would tend too disagree since she isn't owned by the council or any Free ~~~

aurora{Blackthorne} 20:01:06 pm CDT
exclamation Observation collar {GS~O~} details and procedures
« Thread started on: Sep 26th, 2010, 10:26am »
The observation collar, {GS~O~}, is a way for a new slave to be protected from forced collar to allow her to come in, observe, and learn the ways of Gor, specifically within GS.

It is simply a cloak of protection, and does not put her under the ownership of GS.

If a girl decides she doesn't need that protection after a week, a day or even an hour, then she can ask a member of the Council to remove it at any time. The maximum time a slave can wear an {GS~O~} collar is 14 days. At this point, the collar expires, and she is no longer protected.

If she then chooses to beg for a GS or a personal collar, there is nothing standing in her way.

Any Free person pledged to GS may give a slave a {GS~O~} collar.

When giving a slave an observation collar, please remember to provide the information below.

Slaves that are given an Observation collar will be required to contact the GS first girl with in one hand (5 days) of receiving the collar. Failure to do so would revoke the collar and the protection it offers.

Anybody giving out an O collar should pass this information along with the following e mail address to contact the FG.

kajiratraining_gs@yahoo.com

I would also make sure they know how to get to the website:
angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/info.html

And the corks. goreanshores.conforums.com/index.cgi

This information should also be provided to newly collared GS slaves.

I wish you well.

Venator-Warrior 20:01:12 pm CDT
That daemon is a quick bugger. Nods

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:01:14 pm CDT
Zoran, usually yes...but if its an O collar the rules change...I think.
Again, this is what forum is for

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:01:14 pm CDT
Crusader,, being cuffed, or tied to the whipping post to await punishment,, is not considered "harsh" punishment.. as I posted from the free pages it is acceptable

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:01:19 pm CDT
Rollo that's the way i see it also its a learning curve

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:01:19 pm CDT
~smiling at Master Sandman.

If a slave begs an o collar or indeed if a slave is collarless in our home they are still expected to show the same level of respect to all Free persons.

It is the most basic tenet of being a slave and even if a girl is a raw newcomer to Gor flicka would expect her to still show respect.

And yes Master Kazar and torri a girl in an o collar may offer to serve.

aurora{Blackthorne} 20:01:51 pm CDT
aurora is not sure if this is on the web pages Jarl Rollo

this is taken from the cork

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:01:57 pm CDT
Looks to Kazar
To remove her is disrespect to the master that put her there
I was just stating that. Captain could do so but most would not
Do that

tamara{Kyoto} 20:02:18 pm CDT
i suppose i was under the thought that the o collar was simply allowing them to come in an observe and ask questions. that's what the o is suppose to mean, so in reality there should be no reason to be punishing because they shouldn't be 'doing' anything to be punished for if they are asking questions and learning the ways of GS and gor.

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:02:20 pm CDT
~ tires of these games and rises to My feet

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:03:07 pm CDT
thank you pretty aurora

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:03:16 pm CDT
*nods*
Ok Captain Sandman...as I am learning myself i didn't know all these things.

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:03:23 pm CDT
Let's cut to the chase here... An experienced slave claiming to be red silk trained was disrespectful to Me....
I chained her to the whipping post.....nothing more

Rollo the Ax 20:03:37 pm CDT
The simple fact is that nobody owns them... the o collar is allowed by Council rules, so it is logical to say that the only ones free to inflict punishment would be those that run GS ??

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:03:40 pm CDT
Zoran its O for observation on needs too learn not discipline her `~if you wnat her to become a slave here

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:03:42 pm CDT
~sighs~ Indeed it is Master Venator.

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:04:02 pm CDT
Said slave wore an O collar.....

Sissy 20:04:11 pm CDT
then you did correctly Master of one

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:04:27 pm CDT
If I punshed a girl and she not be owned by any I would
Be pissed if someone had released her
LH this is the issue they are slaves and that is there choice
To save them is not a gorean way

torri{Master's one} 20:05:02 pm CDT
With all due respect...this one agrees with mistress flicka...even a girl who is observing and learning must learn to not be disrespectful when speaking with the Free...

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:05:27 pm CDT
If someone feels that is harsh punishment then let them so say to My face

Sissy 20:06:31 pm CDT
did you contact Council afterwards Master of one?

Rollo the Ax 20:06:37 pm CDT
The question then is, did a C+P of the disrespect and reason for posting get sent to the Council which rule is also in the homepages ?? And just how was the slave disrespectful ??

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:06:51 pm CDT
Fair enough Zoran.
But as many of u have pointed out I'm new...a "pup" I believe is term used.
If a mistake is made instead of threatening violence perhaps a rational explanation would be better

aurora{Blackthorne} 20:06:59 pm CDT
most welcome Master Sandman
the time when the O collar was initiated
girl does not believe there is much more anywhere but
from where the girl posted this

Sissy 20:07:02 pm CDT
get outta my head Rollo..lol

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:07:26 pm CDT
torri agreed better to explain to one why that was disrespectful now if it happens again`~ then punish her

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:07:53 pm CDT
~smiling at Master of one~ Master, flicka for one would not say that is harsh punishment, it is a mere reminder to a slave of what she is, a beast at the mercy of a Free Person.

Austin - Scholar- 20:08:04 pm CDT
From my past experience.. If I am not sure of the customs and regulations of our house. I first ask and if no one was around I would wait.. Waiting is being respectful.. I don't assume that what I do is ok.. and the old proverb.. take assume apart.. LOL

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:08:04 pm CDT
No Rollo I do not C&P well

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:08:20 pm CDT
Rollo ~~ that is the right way

Sissy 20:08:27 pm CDT
Who gives punishment without explaining why one is being punished?

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:08:27 pm CDT
Master of one ...aura would think the girl knew her actions would have consequences. This one feels that as a slave we should always have that fear we may be found to be not pleasing and could end up there or worse

torri{Master's one} 20:08:48 pm CDT
From this one's understanding, Master Kazar, the girl knew she was being disrespectful and was intentionally pushing the limits because she likes the feeling of fear...

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:10:55 pm CDT
Rollo if you chain a slave to a post
And another free her
The Rollo I rember would have a axe out
Mad as hell

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:11:24 pm CDT
Ventor ~` it's a learning curve ``` why some take the 0 collar others who aren't new and be white silks or look to be collared by a Master

Venator-Warrior 20:11:56 pm CDT
Kazar, uh what?

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:12:01 pm CDT
Of course it follows that the dispute should also be sorted out in a Gorean way...within GS guidelines

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:12:17 pm CDT
its for Zoran ~Lol

Sissy 20:12:21 pm CDT
for another to free the slave would be DisRespectful..No matter what collar the girl wears

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:12:25 pm CDT
looking around the room,, has everyone read the posts from the free pages, supplied to Me by the first girl, are we all clear on what is defined as acceptable punishment for the slave you don't own,, looking around the room stopping on each one for an ihn

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:12:38 pm CDT
agrees with the first girl
absolute obedience and respect is required in GS...especially if the new arrival is of red silk status

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:13:04 pm CDT
~nods at the wise summation of Master Sandman~

torri{Master's one} 20:13:20 pm CDT
~nods in agreement with mistress and ruby...especially since the girl in question claims red silk status~

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:13:33 pm CDT
So it is now acceptable that any can release a slave I am punishing?

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:13:40 pm CDT
Yes captain
Nods

aurora{Blackthorne} 20:13:52 pm CDT
a little shake of long tresses
previous forums ...people wanted Masters to act like Gorean Masters
and when they do...it's a problem?

larissa{Austin} 20:14:05 pm CDT
Yes Captain Sandman, larissa clearly understands.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:14:19 pm CDT
M O S whose the slave in question ?

torri{Master's one} 20:14:22 pm CDT
~nods quietly in agreement with aurora~

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:14:38 pm CDT
Yes Captain

Austin - Scholar- 20:14:48 pm CDT
Yes Captain..

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:15:02 pm CDT
It's none of your business who Kazar

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:15:03 pm CDT
Aye Captain ~

Venator-Warrior 20:15:06 pm CDT
Aye Captain

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:15:23 pm CDT
M O S then why bring it up ~

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:15:35 pm CDT
*nods*
Yes Captain, I understand now.

Sissy 20:16:07 pm CDT
if a girl claims red silk why does she need an "O" collar?

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:16:17 pm CDT
Because it was My actions being called into question ...anonymously I might add

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:16:39 pm CDT
so to reiterate,, the free pages,, as flicka posted indicate what punishment can be given to a slave you don't own

tamara{Kyoto} 20:16:41 pm CDT
to learn about the ways of GS, just because one is a red silk doesn't mean they know things of GS, GS is different than other places and different places are different than GS.

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:17:00 pm CDT
I was thinking the same thing Sissy

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:17:06 pm CDT
looking to Master of one,, no,, it is not acceptable for someone to release the slave,, and in this case I believe the party in question understands that,, don't you Crusader?

Rollo the Ax 20:17:21 pm CDT
LOL... Zoran..... I might well question the reason for doing so, but I would NOT take such as a personal insult .. if we are speaking plainly here, is not the overall contention in who and or why she was released ??

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:17:25 pm CDT
Agree tamara

Sissy 20:17:46 pm CDT
but 1 rule ALWAYS remains the same...slaves are to be Respectful at All times...that even applies to a BDSM submissive

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:17:48 pm CDT
Sissy that was my point one would have begged for a white-silk ~not a O collar

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:18:02 pm CDT
Actually Mo1, I didn't raise the question.
Guess we're even.
I accidentally disrespected you, and now u purposely disrespected me.

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:18:09 pm CDT
Not in flicka's eyes Master of one. As far as flicka can see it only You or a Member of the Council could free the girl.

This girl is also reminded that we do not know what is happening in whispers. A girl thinks back to when Jarl Keeper force collared a free Woman. Luckily He did keep the log, because in it she was frantically PMing Him that she had made a mistake in entering as a FW and wished to be collared.

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:18:24 pm CDT
No Rollo the contention is that she was released at all

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:18:42 pm CDT
well said sister ..smiles to aurora...

aura wants the Master to act like they are Masters ...to be in charge of a slave...one of the first things that attracted this girl to her owner was he pulled her up on something instead of being all warm and fuzzy...

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:19:34 pm CDT
My hand slides around you waist kissing your lips
As I let my fingers slide between your legs
Mmm I like the whisper with you my love
Evil grin

torri{Master's one} 20:19:45 pm CDT
~nodding with mistress flicka~

That is so very true...

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:20:02 pm CDT
Dam it
Grabs that up hands it to natasha

larissa{Austin} 20:20:18 pm CDT
giggles at Master Zoran. and sweeps it under the rug for him.

torri{Master's one} 20:20:24 pm CDT
~squirms a little and smiles~

Sissy 20:20:54 pm CDT
RME@Zoran

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:21:07 pm CDT
~ looks to LH
I believe that was Captain Sandman who said that
I haven't spoken of or to you since you released the girl
I didn't rant and whine on the corks

natasha{Zoran} 20:21:32 pm CDT
grabs that whisper and saves it uhmmm... somewhere hot!

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:22:15 pm CDT
Three tastas Master Zoran, inflation you know. ~wicked grin~

larissa{Austin} 20:22:37 pm CDT
giggles with mistress...

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:22:42 pm CDT
Zoran you sly Dog
~ laughs

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:22:42 pm CDT
chuckles at Zoran's whisper sweeping

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:22:42 pm CDT
Laughs at flicka

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:22:48 pm CDT
Clearly you didn't read the corks.
Never whined about this.
And u implied that I posed the question to the Captain...but I didn't.

tamara{Kyoto} 20:23:28 pm CDT
-bites her bottom lip-

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:23:30 pm CDT
There is no absolute in most of it actually....despite the protocols rules and guidelines all of GS and Gor roleplay is an evolving thing....limited by our earth minds also

The only absolute is that everyone is at a different point in the journey...and that some folks learn quicker than others and some perhaps will never learn

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:23:52 pm CDT
sometimes taking the high road is better yes ~

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:23:52 pm CDT
I can multi task grins

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:24:10 pm CDT
Bullshit LH
I said it was anonymous

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:24:17 pm CDT
Master of one
Crusader

I would appreciate your attention.. striking steel measuring staff on the floor sending stone chips flying

moira {Venator} 20:24:48 pm CDT
Jumps at the loud noise

Sissy 20:24:49 pm CDT
stepping back from the flying stone

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:24:55 pm CDT
Oh Zoran....and I thought you said we were forever...and now I see you meant natasha....LOL

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:24:57 pm CDT
*looks to Sandman*
Yes Captain

Rollo the Ax 20:25:06 pm CDT
If it is allowed for ANY free to punish, then why is not also allowed for ANY free to release ?? The root of this issue is NOT in what was done, but by who/whom ..... A new person made a mistake, perhaps... then offer their apology ... but it was out of hand refused instead of taking in to account the why of the issue.....

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:25:12 pm CDT
nodding to Crusader

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:25:17 pm CDT
Looks to Sandman as he get my attention

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:25:19 pm CDT
~ looks to the Captain

larissa{Austin} 20:25:26 pm CDT
heart almost stops and bites her lip
holding her head way down

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:25:50 pm CDT
nodding to Master of one

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:25:59 pm CDT
Grins to Hunter wins
Laughs

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:26:07 pm CDT
~lowers her eyes in respect to Master Sandman.~

torri{Master's one} 20:26:53 pm CDT
~listens quietly~

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:27:41 pm CDT
Men

Master of one didn't cross any lines by tying the slave to the post
Crusader made a mistake by releasing the girl and realizes he should not have done it

are we clear?

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 20:27:47 pm CDT
~listens quietly~

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:28:46 pm CDT
Crystal

Rollo the Ax 20:28:58 pm CDT
LOL... and some learn what they want to learn, and can not be taught anything different..... there is always a difference between * opinion * and * fact * ..... so it stands to reason that what is accepted as gospel by some may not be so for others .......

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:29:04 pm CDT
*nods*
Aye Captain

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:29:05 pm CDT
Yes Captain
Very understood

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:29:16 pm CDT
as far as the status of ownership of the slave it is clear the Council needs to vote on "Who owns a slave with the GS "O" collar "

I will email the rest of the Council asking for a vote tonight

Sissy 20:29:57 pm CDT
and could that be posted on the corks SandMan?

Sissy 20:30:15 pm CDT
the results I mean

Rollo the Ax 20:30:23 pm CDT
If that is your will and decision Senior Captain, then so be it....

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:30:39 pm CDT
now if yall desire further exercise I suggest you get Zoran to referee you fellows sparring in the sandpit with wood staves.. but no more sparring tonight

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:31:06 pm CDT
excellent Captain Sandman

Venator-Warrior 20:31:24 pm CDT
Nods to the Captain

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:31:37 pm CDT
Sandman that would be helpful ~`
` if the council owns said slave what's the difference between a whitesilk owned by the council as a O collar except one is white silk ??

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:31:52 pm CDT
*nods*
I'm willing to spar him in a relatively friendly way...NOT to the death...another night if that will appease him

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:32:09 pm CDT
Aye Rollo that's true enough..couldn't agree more Man

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:32:16 pm CDT
dares to release her hostaged breath...as waters calm

torri{Master's one} 20:32:46 pm CDT
~listens quietly~

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:33:15 pm CDT
Laughs at Sandman words

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:33:22 pm CDT
and remember the Council is the last word on death and I can practically guarantee neither of you will die from a spar

larissa{Austin} 20:33:28 pm CDT
buries her head in her Master's shoulder

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:34:16 pm CDT
That's all I hoped for, thank you Captain

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:34:19 pm CDT
actually Kazar an o collared slave isn't considered whitesilk,, she can serve with heat,, and fur if she is so inclined

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:35:10 pm CDT
~whispers~ Master Sandman can flicka please be given permission to remove any splinters which have lodged in interesting parts of either Master's anatomy? ~winks at torri~

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:35:51 pm CDT
Sandman exactly ``` not owned by anyone yet ~ why she has the 2 weeks to choose or change her mind

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:35:54 pm CDT
grins to ruby....I thought you liked excitement girl....well last time I strolled past Randolph's holdings late at night I thought so

torri{Master's one} 20:36:09 pm CDT
~muffles her giggle, hearing the slutty mistress~

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:36:12 pm CDT
ok moving on grins

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:36:13 pm CDT
Master Kazar, at times much to the chagrin of a GS whitesilk slave, a girl is an o collar can serve sexually and fur with gay abandon if a Master is willing.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:37:36 pm CDT
gulps a hard swallow to Jarl Hunter...peeking through the keyhole?... blushes hot and helpless

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:37:46 pm CDT
do we have any more topics?

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:37:51 pm CDT
flicka one knows ~``and has

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:39:21 pm CDT
oh I didn't look ruby...by the Priest Kings I would not do that....it was simply ...noisy ....Smiles and winks

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:41:23 pm CDT
hushes her thoughts...girl doesn't desire to be in the pickle brine...winks playfully to aurora

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:43:26 pm CDT
ruby, it would seem that you are noisy in the furs? ~low laughter~ or is it that your Jarl like this girl's roars like a bosk at the crucial moment?

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:48:30 pm CDT
with that I am going to close forum,, but before I do I will remind everyone

Any Free or slave may speak in forum,, BUT ALL are expected to be respectful

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 20:49:34 pm CDT
Thank You Master Sandman for leading forum

thank you flicka for scribing

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:50:07 pm CDT
Captain thanks for leading

flicka for scribing

kianna{GS} 20:50:11 pm CDT
thank you Master Sandman for leading and mistress flicka for scribing.

natasha{Zoran} 20:50:12 pm CDT
thank You, Master Sandman for leading

and mistress flicka for scribing

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:50:18 pm CDT
Thank you Sandman
Thank you flicka for scribing

torri{Master's one} 20:50:25 pm CDT
Yes, Master Sandman...this one hears and understands...she thanks You for leading...

thank you, mistress, for scribing...

~sending hugz to Master and mistress~

Sissy 20:50:27 pm CDT
Thank you SandMan for leading forum

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:50:33 pm CDT
Thank You Master Sandman for leading forum. ~blowing a soft sultry kiss to the most wise leader.~

moira {Venator} 20:51:03 pm CDT
Thank You for leading Master Sandman
Thanks mistress for scribing

aurora{Blackthorne} 20:51:04 pm CDT
thank You Master Sandman, as always...blows a kiss
thank you mistress flicka for scribing

CrusaderLH -A Minstrel/Bard 20:51:11 pm CDT
Thank you Captain Sandman, and flicka

Austin - Scholar- 20:51:26 pm CDT
Thank you Sandman

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:51:37 pm CDT
Thanks for Leading Captain

Thanks flicka for scribing

Austin - Scholar- 20:51:39 pm CDT
Thank you flicka for scribing

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:52:03 pm CDT
thank You Master Sandman for leading

mistress flicka for scribing

Hunter's mirren ~~ Heart sister to aura 20:52:36 pm CDT
Master Sandman, thank You for leading so wisely
beautiful mistress thank you for scribing

Venator-Warrior 20:52:46 pm CDT
Thank you Sandman for leading and flicka for scribing.

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:53:23 pm CDT
Thanks for leading Master Sandman ....

Thanks for always faithfully keeping record mistress flicka x

Rollo the Ax 20:54:57 pm CDT
Be well, Senior Captain... and thanks yet again for running the show here.... and to flicka for her never ending work as scribe and fg......