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Sandman

Zoran
Rollo the Ax
Bretval
Kazar
Hunter
Venator
Master of one

sei
ruby
larissa
carina
tamara
nyla
aura
flicka

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:45:19 pm CDT
you are very welcome Master of One
No we shall start forum
please pm me topics and keep the cross chatter in whispers

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:54:51 pm CDT
someone has asked the question:

Do privately owned slaves need to attend slave class to be awarded silks like tavern owned slaves?

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 19:57:38 pm CDT
Looks to the first girl?
I always thought they did but could be tested by their own Master

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 19:58:22 pm CDT
not that one is aware of Master Sandman. It's always been up to the Owner if his slave attended class and what silks if any his slave wears.

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 19:58:47 pm CDT
far as I know I can make My girls any silk anytime..simply by saying its so

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 19:59:03 pm CDT
They should attend slave class if they can... or at least take the lessons if their time zone prevents attendance... if only to not embarrass her owner if for no other reason

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 19:59:09 pm CDT
~smiling and putting on her bestest voice to answer the question.~

In short no. But to elaborate:

This is a double question. GS slaves are required by their Owners, The Captains of Gorean Shores to attend slave class if they are able. And read the notes if they are unable to attend. Privately owned slaves attend if their Master requires that they do so.

As to earning silks through the lessons provided by Gorean Shores, there is no requirement that a privately owned slave do so. A Master may decree whatever level of expertise he desires on His slave and hence the silk colour He decrees that His slave is.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 19:59:13 pm CDT
Zoran `~ thought they could go to slave class but their master could give them any colored silk ?/

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:00:06 pm CDT
a slave's Owner promotes a silk status to Their discretion

it is not mandatory for personal slaves to attend class, however it's highly advised, for many reasons

Rollo the Ax 20:00:34 pm CDT
I do not presume to know the answer as stated in the home page..... but my understanding has that private slaves where subject to their Masters whims.... as for silks.... but attendance at slave class was encouraged.

natasha{Zoran} 20:00:50 pm CDT
this girl always thought that attending slave class wasnt related to the silk level training. She thought it was the training lessons that were taken into account for it.

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:01:42 pm CDT
True Kazar
Myself I have always followed to the most part
I have had a golden one once

sei {Kazar} 20:01:52 pm CDT
respectfully agrees with Master Bretval, this slave would attend, but the time interferes with work

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:02:15 pm CDT
Aye Venator ``

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:02:30 pm CDT
Having said that...I think its best to have them follow the same training and progress as GS slaves do....for many reasons...and furthermore to keep My nose out of it and let the fg and trainers do their job

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:02:44 pm CDT
It is good for privately owned slaves to attend class, but it is not mandatory as it is for GS slaves.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:03:05 pm CDT
all slaves progress at their own pace ~

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:03:37 pm CDT
A personal slave can be given any colour the Owner wants... that does not make her trained

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:03:56 pm CDT
slave class is not just for learning...it provides a way to bond with their sisters in servitude

Venator-Warrior 20:04:27 pm CDT
Agreed ruby, education and sharing

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:04:48 pm CDT
Looks down to mine it is mandatory to you
I think you look good in red
Kisses her lips

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:05:12 pm CDT
I concur that class is not required, the owner of a slave can give them any colored silk.

Having said that a wise slave attends class

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:06:53 pm CDT
Many slaves come to GS having a rich and wide experience of Gor and Gorean ways, but they do not necessarily know the way we do things in Gorean Shores. That is why the training is encouraged even for experienced slaves and ones privately owned.

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:07:15 pm CDT
~whispers~ we also have fun at slave class.

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:07:16 pm CDT
An argument for why I want a slave class for the Euro members, ruby

it would be there for the NA slaves and give them a choice to fit their personal schedules

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:07:31 pm CDT
Dam that deamon

larissa{Austin} 20:08:43 pm CDT
where is gus gus when we need him.

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:09:32 pm CDT
aura learns lots going to class and she is blessed that mistress flicka agreed with her Jarl's request for her training....

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 20:09:50 pm CDT
A Euro slave class would be most helpful and not just for slaves in that time zone. there are slaves who work and what not during the time of the reg class.

larissa{Austin} 20:10:11 pm CDT
being privately owned and new, the slave classes have been very beneficial, and thinks they should be required either by attending or reading them if one cant attend.

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:10:16 pm CDT
aura emailed Master Gary about that and he told her of things he is working on for the site so hopefully he may be fixing it.

Rollo the Ax 20:11:21 pm CDT
LOL... at least things are constant in GS.... the * house daemon * has always been and remains a major pain in the ass...... LOL...

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:11:27 pm CDT
That has always My thinking carina

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:12:07 pm CDT
gives mistress flicka some matchsticks for her eyes to do a euro class...

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:12:38 pm CDT
maybe we can have australian shindigs also...

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:13:02 pm CDT
chuckles Master Rollo a truer word was never said ... but can you flash your sword at it ....*S*

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:13:28 pm CDT
Laughs at Rollo word so true

Rollo the Ax 20:14:04 pm CDT
It is sad that no matter how hard everyone tries, there will always be timing conflicts with everybody's RT lives..... we can do only so much and hope for the best ....

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:14:11 pm CDT
Rollo aye truer words never spoken

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:16:10 pm CDT
No one would expect flicka to run the class, aura... in the books there were 2nd and 3rd girls to stand in for the fg girl

Rollo the Ax 20:16:54 pm CDT
LOL... in all truth, aura.. if I * flashed * it, it would be more like a large dagger than an actual sword.... LOL... we do have to try and keep things real..... LOL.LOL.. roaring with laughter......

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:18:47 pm CDT
Hunter... Keeper did have a BBQ for Aussie members once... it was a fun time

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:19:18 pm CDT
Bretval arent their other trainers
hoping marieve returns soon
and is gemstone also a trainer ?/

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 20:19:25 pm CDT
~ears perk hearing Master Rollo talk about flashing His huge dagger~

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:19:34 pm CDT
looking at Bretval -- The Council and ONLY the Council will decide on such matters

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:20:14 pm CDT
ruby would you be willing to lead a Euro slave class as 2nd girl?

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:21:36 pm CDT
and by Those Matters I mean a Second class or Second Girl

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:21:56 pm CDT
Of course, Captain Sandman.... but without information how can you make a decision?

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:21:59 pm CDT
Agree with the Captain

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 20:22:02 pm CDT
sorry Master Bretval aura didn't know of that here...

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:23:01 pm CDT
Bretval smiles couldn't be a better choice than gemstone

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 20:23:27 pm CDT
pfft

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:23:27 pm CDT
Master Bretval
gulps a hard swallow...girl is always at the ready to serve her Jarl's Home

as Master Sandman said
the Captains make those decisions

Rollo the Ax 20:24:36 pm CDT
It must be said that we walk a tight rope at times.... trying to keep GS united and strong, but dealing with all the different time zones of members..... special events can be done at times, but if we all splintered into factions due to our time or location, we would run the chance of losing the GS cohesion .......

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:25:08 pm CDT
seems to me it has worked fine for a long time...we make and made the best of it and stand united...but if things are to change lets have slave class and forum for each time zone right round urth...everyone gets to have sunday at 8 pm then...little groups of one or two getting into the minefield of GS politics....Chuckles

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:25:09 pm CDT
Well said Rollo

Master of one - Owner of torri 20:25:54 pm CDT
Aye, Rollo

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:26:09 pm CDT
well said Brother Rollo it is a fine line we walk

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:26:12 pm CDT
True not to laugh at Hunter's words

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 20:27:05 pm CDT
~bites her tongue~

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:28:35 pm CDT
and Bretval let me make it clear we have no lack of information, but further let me state we will not shoot down every new idea just because it is new nor will we accept every new idea just because it is new

So do not hesitate to offer new ideas, but understand the Council will make the decisions

Probably not as fast as some would like, but decide we will non the less

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:29:18 pm CDT
I agree, Rollo... My concern is that by totalling ignoring groups of members Free or slave... We hurt the Home in the long term

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:30:04 pm CDT
Rollo....We agreed....break out the ale ...Grins ...fire off the winchesters in salute

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:31:32 pm CDT
Of Course Captain... who would make the final decision was never in question

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:33:10 pm CDT
Sandman ~~ agrees with Bretval on the time frame their book club euro is doing well while 8.30 pm since Lita isn't here has been cancelled

Rollo the Ax 20:34:03 pm CDT
I am sure that the Council knows what most of the members want... but like Sandman says, it takes time to make decisions that effect the overall site..... Rome was not built in a day, so how could GS hope for any better ?

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:36:16 pm CDT
Rollo Aye ~` all takes time ~
haven't seen some Captains in a while

Rollo the Ax 20:36:19 pm CDT
LOL...LOL... Hunter, it had to happen sooner or later..... LOL... all kidding aside, we agree more often than it seems Hunter.....

torri{Master's one} 20:36:35 pm CDT
~listens quietly~

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:44:30 pm CDT
any more discussion on this topic?

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:44:47 pm CDT
Ok are we going to a new topic ?
As it get quiet?

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:45:10 pm CDT
Laughs as great minds think alike nods to the Captain

torri{Master's one} 20:46:15 pm CDT
Nothing from this one Master Sandman, thank You for asking...

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:47:18 pm CDT
Nothing more from Me Captain

Rollo the Ax 20:47:36 pm CDT
Lets move on, brother Sandman

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:48:33 pm CDT
any other topics?

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:48:54 pm CDT
ahh yes

Can slaves be taught to swim?

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:49:23 pm CDT
Aye Rollo we do....and I say GS is already built....that's the thing..why try to unbuild it?...It was built on one firm foundation...why spread that thin?...I have said this before....and it gets to the reality and the nitty gritty....the net is riddled with gor rooms that are splinter groups...because someone was dissatisfied with someone or something....off they go and set up somewhere....and soon its a deserted wasteland at that new place and at the place they split from....Is that a desirable future for our home?

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 20:49:58 pm CDT
~bites her lip as she has the sudden urge to ask if a bear shits in the woods~

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:50:36 pm CDT
haven't seen any bears recently carina, but I an sure you will apprise us if you see one

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:50:46 pm CDT
Well Master Sandman, a girl doesn't think that it needs to involve formal lessons, but Jarl Keeper has taught flicka how to swim. He threw her overboard way out to sea and didn't throw her a rope for 15 ehn. Flicka can now swim, not very stylish but enough to stop her drowning.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 20:50:52 pm CDT
Sandman lol throw them in the canal see how fast they away from the grins

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:52:20 pm CDT
the bath girls know how how to swim...as Wwe have learned in Assassin of Gor

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:52:28 pm CDT
aura and mirren do a lovely breaststroke

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 20:52:47 pm CDT
Well some of the slaves have built in flotation devices

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 20:52:47 pm CDT
one sure will Master Sandman

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:54:22 pm CDT
Laughs I for some reason thought it was forbidden to teach a slave to swim
Must been a old thing
Or I am losing my memory
Laughs

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:54:52 pm CDT
carina the only bears we have are the misnomered koala bear and they do poo in the bush. But as to real bears, a girl would guess yes bears do poo in the woods.

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:56:00 pm CDT
well Zoran I have always said Memory is the second thing to go and I cant remember the first

Rollo the Ax 20:56:25 pm CDT
You are preaching to the choir, Hunter..... GS has stood the test of time, I feel, for the basic reasons of how it was built... a Council instead or Ubars, and those Captains are all equal in their voting rights ... no ONE man runs the place, so many get to have their say... the other point is that once a vote is taken, even those that did NOT win, support the overall will of the Council.....

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 20:57:17 pm CDT
flicka can always count on you to at least try and answer this one's questions no matter how weird they may be. thank you for that

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 20:58:01 pm CDT
Laughs as I agree with Sandman

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:58:09 pm CDT
Nods to Rollo's words of wisdom

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:58:30 pm CDT
what was the question?...*L*

Rollo the Ax 20:59:42 pm CDT
LOL... that the bears shit in the woods is not up for debate... the only thing to worry about is how often we each seem to step in that shit...... LOL...

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:59:57 pm CDT
carina it is part of the mystique of the first girl that she knows the answer to everything. ~falling into a heap laughing~

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 21:00:57 pm CDT
stepped in bosk shit once that was disgusting but made one's grandpa laugh

Rollo the Ax 21:01:54 pm CDT
as for the question of slaves being taught to swim I do not recall anything in the books saying that they could not or should not be taught to do so...... if there is water around, EVERY person Free or slave should know how to......

moira {Venator} 21:02:03 pm CDT
Looks at mistress flicka impressed with fg's knowledge

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 21:02:11 pm CDT
I not worried about the shit
I worried about the bear

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 21:02:15 pm CDT
~chuckling softly~
flicka you do well at least giving the illusion you have all the answers

Venator-Warrior 21:02:51 pm CDT
Its ok Brother, I got something for the bear. Smiles.

moira {Venator} 21:03:19 pm CDT
Wise observation Master Zoran nods

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 21:03:52 pm CDT
Well Venator we don't have to worry
We are faster then Austin laughs

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:03:54 pm CDT
carina. ~laughing~ are you suggesting that flicka spouts bulls**t? Comes of being a teacher for many years.

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:04:22 pm CDT
well we covered that one fast

any other comments?

Venator-Warrior 21:04:26 pm CDT
Brother, was thinking I like the idea of a bear rug.

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 21:05:06 pm CDT
Master Sandman has there been any news of Master Ramses?

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 21:05:13 pm CDT
Laughs that is a good idea

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:05:35 pm CDT
now that is an idea,, naked slave girl on bearskin rug in front of a roaring fire

Venator-Warrior 21:06:06 pm CDT
The bear wont like the experience, hehe.

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 21:06:17 pm CDT
Noooooooooo one would never ever say that flicka
nope this one thinks you are awesome

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 21:06:18 pm CDT
Looks to Venator
That why he is senior Captain

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 21:06:54 pm CDT
I thought that was one Wwe had in the Tavern

moira {Venator} 21:07:40 pm CDT
Have You been peeking in my Master's holdings, Master Sandman? Giggles

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:08:25 pm CDT
another question might be why teach a slave to swim if drowning her was a future possibility?...but in the books slaves often swam ..the bath girls for certain

larissa{Austin} 21:08:35 pm CDT
just shakes my head and laughs...the youngest is always the fastest.

Rollo the Ax 21:08:56 pm CDT
But brother..... Gor has no * bears *....?? How about some Kurri hides or skins bigger and readily available ... LOL..LOL... ( and oh so fun to hunt and take ) .....

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 21:08:58 pm CDT
aura one hasn't sen him here or in the DM in a very long time

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:09:05 pm CDT
Master Sandman flicka likes the way Your mind works. Hmm a glass of Turian liqueur for the slave to slip between the Master's lips, perhaps spilling a little on the slave's breasts for the Master to clean up. The crackling fire, the soft silkiness of the rug, a bowl of ramberries, the slave's warm honey-toned skin enhanced by the flickering firelight. Bliss.

Venator-Warrior 21:09:37 pm CDT
Still wondering why the Brothers are running. Chuckles. Mental note of what's in the armory.

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 21:09:41 pm CDT
larrisa we
Would trip
Him

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 21:10:17 pm CDT
Ahhh Venator
Don't give are secrets away

natasha{Zoran} 21:10:26 pm CDT
natasha thinks all those are wonderful ideas...for winter

the thought of warm furs and roaring fires right now, has her already sweltering *laughs*

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:10:44 pm CDT
any more comments?

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 21:10:56 pm CDT
geez flicka you trying to ensure Master Rogan gets laid tonight?
now you got one a lil hot under the silks

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:11:45 pm CDT
winters are long in Torvaldsland..that's why so many of us Northerners came to the tropics

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:12:07 pm CDT
Master Sandman
ruby has nothing more

whoa
agress it's warm in here

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 21:12:09 pm CDT
Grins I thought my girl was getting wet
Weg

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 21:12:55 pm CDT
nothing here Master Sandman

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:13:12 pm CDT
~smiles` is that a bad thing carina?

Venator-Warrior 21:13:25 pm CDT
Nothing here

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:13:42 pm CDT
~smiling~ Master Sandman flicka is done.

torri{Master's one} 21:14:13 pm CDT
Nothing from this one Master Sandman, thank You for asking...

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:14:26 pm CDT
then we will close forum
Thanks for scribing flicka and that's to all who attended and participated

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 21:14:26 pm CDT
flicka nope but He does complain carina wants it too much
one feels so bad for Him.. NOT
~chuckling~

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:14:36 pm CDT
All done....

Venator-Warrior 21:15:02 pm CDT
Thanks to Sandman for leading and flicka for scribing.

larissa{Austin} 21:15:07 pm CDT
thank you for leading Master Sandman
and mistress for scribing

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:15:25 pm CDT
Thanks for leading Captain

and you for scribing sweet flicka

Zoran Merchant ~Mentor~ 21:15:43 pm CDT
Thank you Sandman
Thank you for scribing flicka

flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:15:43 pm CDT
Thank You Master Sandman for running forum.

nyla 21:15:48 pm CDT
thank You leading Master Sandman
thank you mistress flicka for scribing

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:15:54 pm CDT
thank You Master Sandman for leading

mistress flicka for scribing

torri{Master's one} 21:15:55 pm CDT
This one thanks You for leading Master Sandman...

Thank you for scribing mistress...

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 21:16:12 pm CDT
Thanks For Leading Sandman and flicka for scribing

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 21:16:14 pm CDT
Thank You Master Sandman for leading
thank you flicka for scribing

Bretval {meral}: Warrior~Scribe~Merchant 21:16:21 pm CDT
Thanks for leading, Captain Sandman
and My thanks for scribing flicka

aura{Hunter} - heart to mirren 21:16:37 pm CDT
Master Kazar ...aura hopes Master Ramses is well then .... thank you for answering this girl *S*

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:16:46 pm CDT
too much ?....carina I googled it and theres no such thing...LOL

Rollo the Ax 21:17:00 pm CDT
As always..... thanks to Sandman for leading, and flicka for scribing......

moira {Venator} 21:17:08 pm CDT
Thank You for leading Master Sandman

Thanks for scribing flicka

natasha{Zoran} 21:17:14 pm CDT
thank you for leading Master Sandman
and mistress flicka for scribing

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 21:17:25 pm CDT
aura as does this one he has been known to take long trips away from home

{carina}AT/Heretic 💕 Sua per sempre 💕 21:18:41 pm CDT
Jarl Hunter according to Master Rogan every night and twice on Sat and Sun is too much for him these days lmao

sei {Kazar} 21:18:42 pm CDT
sei thanks Master Sandman for leading tonight
and mistress flicka for scribing