Present:
Sandman
Thadron
Keeper
Zoran
Venator
Jondalar
Austin
Lita
Jamee
Sissy
ruby
rykl
moira
natasha
pink fluff
flicka
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 19:46:16 pm CST
~Adjusting flicka slightly.~
It time to start Forum for the New Year.
Please remember to keep chatter to a minimum and greet in PM.
If anyone has a topic could they please PM Me now.
Thank you
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 19:49:27 pm CST
I have a topic one moment please.
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 19:50:51 pm CST
Can any Free Person place a collar around a slave and make her a GS slave?
ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:52:58 pm CST
a GS collar may only be bestowed by a Captain of Gorean Shores
only an observation collar may be granted by a Pledged Free
Zoran Merchant 19:52:59 pm CST
Back In the old day I new you could if you were a pledge
But it had to be approved by a Captian
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 19:53:45 pm CST
My understanding is that as the captains own the Gs slaves only a Captain can collar and make someone a GS slave.
However, the boards are a little ambiguous with their wording and it could be interpenetrated other wise.
So; let us discuss.
Then if need I will talk to My Brothers on the Council and have it clarified if needs be.
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 19:54:31 pm CST
Nodding and agreeing with ruby.
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 19:55:37 pm CST
~nodding to ruby~
It is flicka's understanding also that only a Captain can give the gift of a GS collar. But as Jarl Keeper says is a little ambiguous.
Zoran Merchant 19:55:54 pm CST
Laughs I think I may have dated my self
moira {Venator} 19:56:42 pm CST
So any Free could collar a free neck as a personal slave but only Captains could do so as a GS slave?
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 19:56:53 pm CST
~smiling at Master Zoran~ Master flicka would willingly be dated by You.
Zoran Merchant 19:57:34 pm CST
Winks to flika
Laughs
aurora{Blackthorne} 19:57:42 pm CST
grins at Master Zoran
a girl believes she has seen pledged Free collar girls to GS
in fact it is posted several times on the boards
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 19:57:49 pm CST
That is correct moria, also, any Free person can provide an 'O' collar.
ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:59:28 pm CST
a Pledged Free...correct Jarl Keeper?...not a Free Hung...shudders visibly
Thadron-Captain of GS 19:58:49 pm CST
quietly takes my seat on the dais
Venator 20:00:04 pm CST
While the wording is not clear, the intent makes sense. The Captains do not wish a third party to choose a slave for them to represent GS without their input anymore than I would want a third party picking My slave for Me.
Zoran Merchant 20:00:17 pm CST
It was always the collar could be placed by a free but it had to be approved by a Captian
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:00:42 pm CST
~Reaching across and clasping My Brother's hand in a Manly handshake.~
I'll break My own rule for once,
Tal Brother, it so very good to see You.
Austin 20:00:53 pm CST
It was my understand that a non pledge like can not collar one yet I have seen lately a non pledge write in corks about collaring a slave and changing girls name..
to me that was not proper
Zoran Merchant 20:00:59 pm CST
Laughs ruby said free hung
I thought that was all free men
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:01:56 pm CST
blushes hot to Master Zoran
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:02:12 pm CST
~a smile spreads across my lips~ Tal Brother ~nodding to everyone present~
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:02:16 pm CST
~Chuckling~
Pledged Free, I was assuming that no un-pledged person would have the temerity to do that.
But you never know.
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:03:19 pm CST
Master Austin may flicka enquire if You are referring to the collaring by Master Nero?
Austin 20:03:28 pm CST
I totally agree Keeper.. we are privileged to just be welcomed in the home
Austin 20:04:27 pm CST
Yes it was a personal collar but thought maybe a non should not write in the corks
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:06:20 pm CST
Austin, to My way of thinking that is similar to the way We recognise collars from other sites.
They may post, be recognised, but what happens in GS is what is important to My Home.
However I agree, using the corks to justify actions is not what they are there for.
Some people seem to be doing that of late.
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:06:39 pm CST
~nodding slowly~
As far as flicka is aware that collaring was not performed within Gorean Shores.
The collaring has not been posted onto our website.
Zoran Merchant 20:07:02 pm CST
I think I have great taste in the sluts I collar
Kisses my slut
Austin 20:07:09 pm CST
Thank you Keeper for the clarification
natasha{Zoran} 20:07:51 pm CST
grins
and they taste even better, Master
moira {Venator} 20:08:55 pm CST
Giggles at the naughty slut, natasha
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:08:56 pm CST
feel free to bring anything offensive on the corks to the attention of the council at anytime... we can delete it if it does not belong...
however, we don't make a habit of starting "cork wars", we can tolerate different opinions for the most part...
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:08:58 pm CST
~Nodding~
Slaves do taste sweet!
Zoran Merchant 20:10:00 pm CST
Grins at mine
Lita, Physician 20:10:12 pm CST
flicka, it is my understanding that Master Nero has collared his slaves at the Inn in Poolside.
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:11:01 pm CST
needless to say...mistress flicka is correct...imho, there should be clarification on the web pages
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:11:05 pm CST
agreed Brother ~big grin~
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:11:42 pm CST
~Nodding to Thadron
~
Indeed Brother.
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:12:27 pm CST
~smiling~ or Master Thadron merely make no comment on postings that have no relevance to Gorean Shores.
By commenting it can be construed as giving import to something.
moira {Venator} 20:12:42 pm CST
Kisses my Master so He may judge
Venator 20:13:10 pm CST
Hmmmmmm, vanilla with a hint of roses.
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:13:26 pm CST
I have another topic up My sleeve.
~Holding My arm up so all can see.~
~Grinning~
If no one has I further comment?
I will post a second topic.
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:13:26 pm CST
Thank You Mistress, for that enlightenment. ~warm smile~
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:13:57 pm CST
~smiles at ruby~ I am not quite sure what the clarification would be... if you wish to suggest some clarification wording and send it to the Council, we would surely discuss it with fervor.. wouldn't we Keeper
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:14:24 pm CST
exactly my thoughts, flicka
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:14:52 pm CST
looks up Keepers sleeve~ how did she get up there?
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:15:09 pm CST
yes Master Thadron..thank You
ruby will adhere to the chain of command through mistress flicka
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:15:48 pm CST
~chuckling~ cause flicka is a mere slip of a slave Master Thadron, You would be amazed at the tight places into which flicka can slip.
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:16:09 pm CST
As always Brother.
I think there are some parts that are a little ambiguous.
If any one has any thoughts;
keeper1209@gmail.com.au
I'll pass it on.
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:16:24 pm CST
I would expect you to appear a little south of his sleeve ~chuckles~
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:17:09 pm CST
No really; Jarls don't multi-task unless in involves fur and drinking, then We are up there with the best of them!
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:17:54 pm CST
or furring and furring... and drinking
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:19:23 pm CST
furring, yes definitely furring!
Not fur!
Lita, Physician 20:19:58 pm CST
Alas, I am going to have to go. Got to tend to my sleen. I wish All well, enough, and great joy.
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:20:17 pm CST
Fare well Mistress.
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:20:20 pm CST
Next topic;
Venator 20:20:28 pm CST
Winds Lita, hoping to neat the FW
Venator 20:20:40 pm CST
Damn!
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:20:51 pm CST
Zoom gone; a green blur just went.
Be Well Lita!
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:21:04 pm CST
multiple furrings..
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:21:22 pm CST
turns to listen...
Zoran Merchant 20:21:40 pm CST
Laughs it hard to catch the FW's they don't have legs Venator
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:22:24 pm CST
The topic for today; Free Women.
Your opinion?
How do they contribute to the rich culture of Gor?
Do you have any interesting experiences with Free Woman?
(No furring or any non-sense of course!)
Port Kar Does not allow Free Companionship, is this an issue in attracting Free Woman?
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:22:55 pm CST
And no!
I did not wait until Lita left to post that!
~Laughing!!~
Austin 20:23:32 pm CST
It was not my intention to create a stir... just clarification ....
Sissy 20:24:00 pm CST
May I ask since when is Free Companionship not allowed?
Zoran Merchant 20:24:00 pm CST
Sure Keeper laughs
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:24:30 pm CST
actually, the home has had Free Companionship in the past, if my memory serves me well, it was a Council decision to allow it and mostly involved Council members as I recall...
Sissy 20:25:09 pm CST
I remember it as well Thadron
Jamee 20:26:01 pm CST
~listens closely~
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:26:03 pm CST
but strictly by the books, Free Companionship was not recognized in Port Kar... but I don't have the quote nearby
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:26:04 pm CST
in the books Free Companionship was not reconized in Port Kar
Venator 20:26:12 pm CST
What would be the downside of allowing Free companionship?
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:26:14 pm CST
I must say; Lita and I...
I respect the Woman, but We do disagree some times, but I have come to respect Her an enormous amount over the years even if We do clash on occasion.
It is difficult role they have chosen, but when done right, it really adds to the culture and richness of O/our Home.
Zoran Merchant 20:26:17 pm CST
I know I was once poison by fw
They carry a poison dagger under there fw robes
Good thing to know
Jamee 20:27:07 pm CST
or wear ost-tipped pins in their hair
~smiles~
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:27:52 pm CST
Sandman could speak with more experience on the subject...
I always resolved it in my own head that legally it isn't recognized here, but what two people choose to do.. it is not outlawed by any stretch of the imagination
Sissy 20:27:59 pm CST
are you saying Free Companionship is disrespectful Keeper?
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:28:56 pm CST
It is in the books Sophie.
But My understanding is that exceptions are made.
~Nodding to you and smiling~
The question really is does it being in the books make it harder to attract Free Companion couples.
Thadron is right, there are exceptions.
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:28:59 pm CST
from Luthers scroll
"Free Companionship is the Gorean equivalent of marriage and it is common to most of the cities of Gor except for Port Kar. Free Companionship lasts for a single year at a time when it either must be renewed with the wines of love or it will dissolve. The renewal must be performed by the twentieth Ahn, midnight, of the anniversary date. If either party dies or is enslaved, the Free Companionship will also dissolve. It is unknown whether the parties can voluntarily choose to dissolve, like a divorce, the Free Companionship prior to the year's end. As it is a contractual matter, the possibility exists, but the books do not speak on this matter. But, Free Companionship is a very serious matter to Goreans. It is not entered into lightly and seems unlikely that Goreans would see a need to end it earlier than the year's end. There are others who feel differently about Free Companionship"
Zoran Merchant 20:29:02 pm CST
Laughs I rember his free companion well
Part of the reason I left
Did I say that out loud
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:29:22 pm CST
No!
Not at all.
Sissy 20:30:33 pm CST
Keeper I'm Sissy not Sophie..and as much as you would like to keep things by the book I'm sure that things work differently in whisper
Venator 20:30:35 pm CST
What if a Free companionship couple wish to make Port Kar their home? Must they separate?
Sissy 20:31:15 pm CST
are you speaking of Xertogs Woman Zoran??
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:32:15 pm CST
No, Venator.
As Thadron rightly pointed out, that has not been the case before.
Sissy 20:32:26 pm CST
I assume from what I've read yes Venator
Zoran Merchant 20:32:36 pm CST
Oh that who she was with
I try to forget
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:32:42 pm CST
what do you think, Venator...
should it be allowed for them to enter in Free Companionship
Venator 20:33:24 pm CST
Ah, so there is room for interpretation, not a black and white, yes or no phenomenon.
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:33:37 pm CST
How do they contribute to the rich culture of Gor?
They are a vital part of Gorean culture, whereas online slaves tend to ~chuckling~ "dominate" according to the books slaves were only a small percentage of the population.
The interaction between Free Women and free Men and free Women and slaves can be rich, rewarding and exciting. Free Women are often less tolerant of the behaviour of slaves and are certainly not interested in furring them.
Do you have any interesting experiences with Free Woman?
A girl has many experiences that she could relate with her interaction with Free Women, some pleasurable some less so, but all adding to a girl's Gorean experience.
(No furring or any non-sense of course!)
Port Kar Does not allow Free Companionship, is this an issue in attracting Free Woman?
According to the books Port Kar does not recognise Free Companionship, as far as flicka is aware we do try to follow the books as closely as we are able.
Sissy 20:33:38 pm CST
she was the reason I left as well Zoran
Zoran Merchant 20:34:29 pm CST
They could be from other parts of Gor and have come to port Kar
I don't see it should be a problem
Venator 20:34:53 pm CST
Thadron, growth of GS has often been a topic. Being exclusive in certain areas could curtail that. And what harm does it do other than differ from John Normans imagination?
ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:36:05 pm CST
nods and agrees with mistress flicka...to adhere to the books teachings as much as possible
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:37:09 pm CST
slipping in silently so as not to disturb the flow of discussion,, nodding quietly to each one here
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:37:26 pm CST
Free Companionship is not recognised in Port Kar.
Clearly We (The Council) have made exceptions in the past and if needed will most likely do so in the future.
The question is; as flick stated, does that make Port Kar less attractive to Free Woman?
Zoran Merchant 20:38:39 pm CST
I think if they know the rule can bend then no
It would not be un attractive
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:38:40 pm CST
I know in the case of Deirdre and I was always refered to her as "my Womnan" and not my FC in keeping with the Gorean Practice of Port Kar.. as for GS over the years I think there have been a fair number of FW here
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:39:50 pm CST
Master Sandman, that is always how You have referred to flicka about Mistress Deirdre.
Sissy 20:39:56 pm CST
the only ones who can answer that Question is FW..I'm not a FW I come to visit and decide if this is the path I wish to take again
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:39:57 pm CST
I would not refuse a pledge from a Free Man and a Free Woman solely on the fact they had entered into Free Companionship.... if they needed the Council to recognize the arrangement publicly there would be some discussion I am sure... otherwise I don't see an issue..
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:40:32 pm CST
~nods to Sandman~ the expert on the subject has arrived
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:40:48 pm CST
~Nodding to Thadron.~
Wise words.
I concur.
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:41:02 pm CST
You are not a Free Woman Mistress Sissy? Then what are You if flicka may ask?
Sissy 20:41:34 pm CST
I am a Mistress of the DM visiting flicka
Jamee 20:41:50 pm CST
I'm a bit confused
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:41:53 pm CST
oh.
Sissy 20:42:09 pm CST
and this is Respectfull attire to wear visiting your home
Sissy 20:43:14 pm CST
if this offends anyone speak now and I will go
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:43:51 pm CST
you are welcome, Sissy, the forum is open
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:44:30 pm CST
flicka believes that forum was open to all.
Sissy 20:44:32 pm CST
Thank You Thadron
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:45:01 pm CST
As My Brother said;
It is an open Forum, where all can speak their mind.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:45:29 pm CST
chuckling at my Brother's words,, well I do have a brief case and am from more than 50 miles away from most of you,, I reckon that's qualifies me
Sissy 20:45:46 pm CST
speaking my mind gets me into trouble Keeper..lol
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:45:48 pm CST
Jamee, do you have a question?
Jamee 20:46:41 pm CST
So in Port Kar, it is okay for a Free Man to "claim" a Woman to be His but it's not legal to enter into a Free Companionship?
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:47:49 pm CST
~Nodding~
Half the Council is here, We should be able to answer most questions!
~Grinning to My Brothers and Jamee.~
Tuchuk 20:49:01 pm CST
Seeing that Jamee is here. Good to see Her again!!
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:49:02 pm CST
I don't think the Council has been specific about the wording, Jamee...
in Gor, a Free Companionship was a "contract" between two Free... Port Kar doesn't recognize the contract... that is all I was saying..
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:49:53 pm CST
My understanding is this;
It is not a matter of legality, rather than a question recognition of what They are. Because of what is stated in the books.
The issue like most issues of this nature can be looked at and clarified by the Council if the need should arise.
Jamee 20:50:14 pm CST
~nods hearing the Captain~
thank You
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:50:27 pm CST
We have always welcomed and respected the relationship between two Free... it can and should be agreed to, not a claim by one or the other, but this last statement is my own, not the word of the council
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:50:38 pm CST
Mistress Jamee, flicka is no expert on Free Woman, but it is this girl's understanding it has to be consensual, the entering in of a relationship of a Free Man of Port Kar and Free Woman. ~low chuckling~ if it were not consensual then it would be a forced collaring, and He could only do that if she did something to allow it to happen, like behave in a certain manner or enter into a capture room without protection.
So if a Man and a Woman wish to form a relationship they can. The result is often little Goreans.
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:51:40 pm CST
~smiles~ see flicka, we do agree sometimes ~chuckles a bit~
Jamee 20:52:19 pm CST
~smiles hearing all of the clarifications~
thank you all
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:52:47 pm CST
~laughing softly~ Master Thadron, correct flicka if she errs, oh please do!
But flicka reckons that You prefer steel around the neck of Your women.
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:53:10 pm CST
We agree most of the time Thadron, come to think of it I can not remember ever disagreeing with You or Sandman!
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:53:32 pm CST
you could be right about that, flicka ~chuckles~
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:54:08 pm CST
that we do, Keeper ~Slaps his shoulder~ we do
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:54:29 pm CST
Dang Master Thadron, and here was flicka hoping that You might be a little cross with her.
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:55:06 pm CST
if Brother Keeper allows, I would love to "correct" you sometime, flicka
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 20:56:25 pm CST
Oh any where any time Thadron!
Be My guest.
I'm sure flicka could fit you in somewhere, some time!
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:56:32 pm CST
growls at the internet connection
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:56:51 pm CST
~kneeling oh so prim and proper attending to forum, a surreptitious wink to Master Thadron.~
Thadron-Captain of GS 20:57:12 pm CST
it is alot to fit in... ~chuckles~
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 20:58:24 pm CST
Master Sandman punishment is in order for it?
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 21:00:37 pm CST
~Chuckling~
I do not think the internet would respond well to a whipping somehow flicka!
ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:01:37 pm CST
perks up...whipping??.
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 21:01:58 pm CST
~laughing at ruby~
Grinning~
Tuchuk 21:02:06 pm CST
laffin'...calm down ruby!!
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 21:03:09 pm CST
Does anyone have any last comments?
ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:03:30 pm CST
settles herself with raw carnal thoughts of her own
Thadron-Captain of GS 21:03:55 pm CST
~hand on my slave whip, always ready~
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:04:00 pm CST
~laughing~ ruby! As Master Jondalar says calm down.
~mental hug to her sister.~
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 21:04:23 pm CST
No comments?
Thadron-Captain of GS 21:04:46 pm CST
I think I have filled the room with enough hot air tonight
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 21:04:50 pm CST
The Forum is now closed.
Thank you flicka for scribing.
ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:05:01 pm CST
gulps a hard swallow
Jarl Keeper
nothing more from this mere slut...
Tuchuk 21:05:11 pm CST
Aye..Thank you one and All
Thadron-Captain of GS 21:05:18 pm CST
Thank you for leading, Keeper...
and thank you for scribing lil flicka...
natasha{Zoran} 21:05:27 pm CST
thank You, Jarl Keeper for leading and mistress for scribing
Sissy 21:05:39 pm CST
Thanks for letting me sit in
Be Well
Jamee 21:05:48 pm CST
Thank You Captain Keeper, thank you flicka, another interesting Forum
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:05:55 pm CST
Thank You Jarl for leading. ~warm smile, gentle hand on His boot~
Venator 21:06:06 pm CST
Thank you for leading Keeper and flicka for scribing.
ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:06:06 pm CST
Jarl Keeper
thank You for leading a fine Forum
mistress flicka for scribing
moira {Venator} 21:06:46 pm CST
Thank You for leading Jarl Keeper
Thanks for scribing flicka
Zoran Merchant 21:07:26 pm CST
Thank You Keeper
Austin 21:08:03 pm CST
thank you for leading Keeper... and flick for scribing
flicka~ slave of Keeper. ~GS~ fg. 21:09:30 pm CST
An interesting forum, perhaps a couple of things could be clarified by the Captains, flicka is more than eager to update the webpages as necessary.
Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 21:10:04 pm CST
~Nodding~
It will happen, soon.
