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OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:43:30 pm CST
PM me any topics
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:49:37 pm CST
ok we have something offered for discussion
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:49:55 pm CST
If by some Priest-King 'magic / science' you could travel back in time on Urth in the '60s.
What would be the one piece of advice you would like to give John Norman?
ruby~{Randolph} 19:50:47 pm CST
easy
make love not war
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 19:53:27 pm CST
well flicka would like to give Him a file index system, so He could detail all the myriad bits and cultures
and people in Gor and keep track of what he has previously written, so that he would not make as many
contradictions of himself. And make life so difficult for those of us, who , despite His avowed horror of
us, want to role play and live the world he created.
ruby~{Randolph} 19:53:27 pm CST
burn the draft cards...burn the bras..head north to the border
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 19:54:27 pm CST
It would not be a piece of advice, rather a statement of fact.
I don't care what Noah Webster says; Because much functions as an adverb (in addition to being a noun
and an adjective), the adverbial suffix -ly adds nothing, and muchly is a superfluous word.
~Chuckling~
peanut~{Lita} 19:56:32 pm CST
laffs...He should have gone to witting school...or is that school all by itself?
did He graduate?
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:57:44 pm CST
I am with flicka, so time spent making a record of items thaqt would be found throughout the books
would have been wise after he wrote the 2nd or 3rd book
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:00:04 pm CST
I would say to JN.
You are going to write 30 plus books sunshine.
Plan now, think ahead what the book will be about and avoid contradictions that will drive some people
on the internet crazy in 50 years time.
(Then I would have to spend the rest of day explaining computers, internet and online Gor.)
Talk to a professor in the English Department and get Him to proof read and fix the grammar.
That aside, love your idea!
Lita, Physician 20:00:06 pm CST
John Norman was a full fledged professor of Philosophy at a well-known university, peanut. The book
thing started as a bet with a friend that he could write and get something published.
Lita, Physician 20:02:26 pm CST
Thing was, Sandman and Flicka and Keeper, He had no intent in the beginning of writing 30 some-odd
books. Especially not on the same topic. It just sort of happened.
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:03:11 pm CST
~smiles at Master Sandman~
You have it Master, obviously when He wrote the first couple of books He did not anticipate writing 30
odd sequels, and so as You say, after the first couple should have organised Himself.
peanut~{Lita} 20:04:02 pm CST
thats good to know Mistress...however his grammar sucks...that said...i love the books
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:06:49 pm CST
I think the contradictions are the one thing that really can annoy. Clearly he did not have flicka's file
system and relied on memory.
From a personal and professional perspective his writing style leaves a lot to be desired.
Having said all that, clearly His idea has struck a chord with many people.
ruby~{Randolph} 20:09:10 pm CST
aye Jarl Keeper...it is why We are here
Lita, Physician 20:09:50 pm CST
Keeper, some of what people call contradictions are not really. Gor had many different cultures residing
upon it, and some things were different in the various cultures, or even among the Castes. But those who
are not reading closely do not catch that.
Lita, Physician 20:12:00 pm CST
For instance, in most Gorean Cities, slaves were not allowed to build the buildings, but Port Kar did allow
it, and was the only City to have slave-built buildings.
Lita, Physician 20:14:25 pm CST
Same with slaves and money,and slaves and "weapons" Somes slaves had to use what might be called
weapons in the course of their duties, and in one City at least,. a street dancer picked up the coins the men
threw her and put them in her skirt. And in one instance a slave is seen shaving her Master.
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:15:59 pm CST
I am sure your right Lita.
The truth is; I find is writing style so convoluted and turgid that I have a real problem retaining what I
have read.
I have excellent retention normally, but not with JN, it just will not stick like other novels and historical
books.
Lita, Physician 20:17:34 pm CST
Oh I agree with that, Jarl. And I think a LARGE PART OF that "turgid style" was that in those days
authors were still paid by the word! *LOL*
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:20:44 pm CST
~Laughing~
That means JN could have retired at 45!
Too many words!
ruby~{Randolph} 20:20:49 pm CST
Mistress Lita
girl didn't know that ...perhaps why there was so much repetition..
leatha {GS} 20:22:09 pm CST
nods to ruby thinking the same thing
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:22:31 pm CST
~chuckling~ flicka cannot read Charles Dickens works, because he was paid by the word and they are so
convoluted and drawn out, sad because the stories and topics are great within themselves. Just like JNs
stuff. Like ruby, flicka loves the concept, but like Jarl Keeper and peanut hates the execution
Lita, Physician 20:28:27 pm CST
I was bored almost to tears while readng Priest Kings, but struggled through because there was a great
deal of vital information if you dug for it.
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:28:53 pm CST
Going slightly off topic, given the repetitive nature of JN writing, it would make a good film, however the
attempts that have been made so far are both atrocious and appalling.
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:30:03 pm CST
~laughing~ aye has anyone else watched the Gor film?
ruby~{Randolph} 20:30:21 pm CST
Mistress Lita
really?.. that was one of girls favorites
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:30:27 pm CST
I haven't seen it, I understand from others who had it was terrible
peanut~{Lita} 20:32:00 pm CST
Gor film...is that....13th Warrior?
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:32:35 pm CST
You could condense the a few Tarl Cabot stories into one exciting film, but, of course no one will,
because Gor is not exactly Politically Correct.
There are on or two points that some people may not agree with.
A pity.
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:32:50 pm CST
peanut, flicka cannot remember its title, suffice to say it was 90 minutes of flicka's life that she regrets
wasting.
peanut~{Lita} 20:34:23 pm CST
wow...then peanut wont need to look it up then
13th worrior came complete with Kur attacks...thought it was worth watching...Northmen turn me on!
ruby~{Randolph} 20:34:42 pm CST
Jarl Keeper
only one or two?
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:35:18 pm CST
Oh it is bad Sandman.
Oh the IMDB scale of 1 to 10, it is a minus 5!
imdb.com/title/tt0095241/
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:35:55 pm CST
~Evil Grin~
Glad to hear that peanut.
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:36:45 pm CST
Funny peanut, Northmen turn flicka on also.
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:36:56 pm CST
Actually ruby there are only one or two things that some people might agree with!
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:37:27 pm CST
It is good to be a Northman!
~Grinning~
Lita, Physician 20:37:32 pm CST
I have never seen the films, but my first Mentor on Gor said that she and her girlfriends would get
together every now and then and get drunk and watch them and laugh. It was the only way they could
tolerate them! *LOL*
peanut~{Lita} 20:37:36 pm CST
grins back to Jarl Keeper
ruby~{Randolph} 20:38:16 pm CST
Ah Jarl Keeper
the ying and yang...fans self with vigor
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:38:30 pm CST
The link to IMDB is here.
imdb.com/title/tt0095241/
Look at it at your peril!
Lita, Physician 20:39:57 pm CST
May I ask what IMBD is?
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:40:16 pm CST
Jarl that would be cruel and unusual punishment, a little like Roddy McDowell's character in A
Clockwork Orange, being forced to watch films.
Mistress Lita, copious amount of alcohol might just work at that.
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:40:19 pm CST
internet movie data base
leatha {GS} 20:41:07 pm CST
not sure leatha would want to watch it now that all here have deemed it awful. laughs
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:41:30 pm CST
You would have to very drunk.
Paralytic, sloshed, three sheets to the wind, wasted, under the influence, totalled, plastered and tipsy I
think Lita!
leatha {GS} 20:42:35 pm CST
maybe even good recreational drugs might be needed as well, Jarl Keeper. stifles a laugh
Lita, Physician 20:45:34 pm CST
I gather in one scene in one of them, they had the slaves mud wrestling! *LOL*I
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:46:09 pm CST
Film as an art form is often about the interpretation of culture. Telling a story of a different culture.
Whether the culture is real or imagined, if you do not understand the culture; you will not make a good
film.
We need a Gorean to make an exciting film.
I do not think that will happen any time soon.
leatha {GS} 20:47:16 pm CST
grins, is it way wrong for leatha to find mud wrestling sort of fun? a no no here girl is sure, right?
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 20:47:29 pm CST
I'm not sure Lita, I was so traumatised I have blocked it from My memory!
~chuckling~
Lita, Physician 20:49:31 pm CST
I could understand that, Jarl. That's one reason among many I have never made any effort to view any of
the Gor movies before.
ruby~{Randolph} 20:54:42 pm CST
well this one something every book club...about the culture we all strive to emulate
ruby~{Randolph} 20:55:13 pm CST
learns something..good grief..must need recovery
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:56:09 pm CST
~pats ruby gently on the hand~ is ok my dear, your mind is elsewhere, thinking of your Master.
ruby~{Randolph} 20:59:01 pm CST
tis true flicka...my Jarl leaves in the UK morning..serving His pleasure today was ...was...oh my never
mind...raw and viseral
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:00:50 pm CST
~wicked glint in flicka's eye~
oh do tell ruby, you cannot leave us panting for more information.
peanut~{Lita} 21:00:51 pm CST
peanut definately could use some of that!
ruby~{Randolph} 21:01:45 pm CST
gulps a hard swallow...knows when to shut it
ruby~{Randolph} 21:03:59 pm CST
ten weeks is a long time..dares not even blink...her bravado evident
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 21:04:01 pm CST
Oh dear ruby.
You will be a wreck by the time Randolph returns.
Just think, when He gets back... the second thing He will do is take His boots off!
~grinning~
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:04:51 pm CST
~whispers~ ruby will He be safe when He returns? Or will He be peeling a very needy slave from His
body?
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:05:56 pm CST
rti here,., would you mind finishing forum Keeper
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 21:06:18 pm CST
Certainly Sandman.
ruby~{Randolph} 21:07:24 pm CST
lol.lol..indeed Jarl Keeper...indeed
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 21:08:18 pm CST
To be serious, just for a moment ruby.
Just think how wonderful it will be when He returns.
ruby~{Randolph} 21:08:59 pm CST
not certain how to answer that flicka
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 21:09:42 pm CST
We seem to have gone off topic completely.
Unless someone has something to say, it is time to close this Forum.
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:09:55 pm CST
~chuckling~ no answer needed ruby, as Jarl says His second task will be to remove His boots.
ruby~{Randolph} 21:10:30 pm CST
yes it will be Jarl
ruby has been very very spoiled of late...His order..do not get "poached" My slut, while I am away
leatha {GS} 21:10:58 pm CST
this girl has nothing.
she also needs to get going. It was nice to see everyone here this night. leatha sends well wishes.
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:11:03 pm CST
flicka has nothing more Jarl.
ruby~{Randolph} 21:11:21 pm CST
rolls up the back up scroll...well wishes to Aall
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 21:12:05 pm CST
Well;
Forum is now close.
I wish you all well.
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 21:13:22 pm CST
Time to go flicka
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:13:24 pm CST
Thank You Master Sandman in absentia.
thank you ruby for back-up.
thank You Jarl for Your wonderful closure.
Jarl Keeper ~ Advisor ~ Scholar 21:15:31 pm CST
~Picking flicka up and hauling her over My shoulder.~
~Slapping her rump as I go.~
Don't be cheeky!
~Laughing heartily as I walk out the door waving good bye to all.~
thank you flicka for scribing
