Present:
Master Sandman
Rollo
Ramses
snowrose
leatha
hulya
ruby
flicka
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:20:26 pm CST
smiling if anyone has a topic for discussion here in forum,, pm me
Rollo the Ax 20:24:59 pm CST
Doesn't anybody have any questions or wonder about anything here on Gor or in GS
leatha {GS} 20:27:11 pm CST
grins, well leatha has many requests for discussion, but it is all new slave stuff, so she will ask mistress in
good time. her stuff is something you all know, and she doesn't. that is why she hadn't spoke up
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:27:40 pm CST
well Rollo so far no deep meaningful topics,, lets go to the Tavern and discuss drinking
ruby~{Randolph} 20:27:54 pm CST
Master Rollo
girl wonders if there is a door from the Piazza...into the kitchen?.. ruby may of been walking through
walls
ruby~{Randolph} 20:29:14 pm CST
angelfire.com/vt/goreanshores/kajirainfo/kitchen-description.html
indicates there is
however there has been disputes
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:29:36 pm CST
~smiles to leatha...you may email snowrose anytime leatha...she checks every day. she will have some
time off after Christmas, and hopes to meet with you to work on things
leatha {GS} 20:30:25 pm CST
thank you mistress. smiles to her
listens to ruby
Rollo the Ax 20:30:49 pm CST
ruby..... I must admit that I can't remember for sure...... I'll look at the maps and see....... I should
remember.... I drew the maps and layout of the tavern many years ago........
leatha {GS} 20:31:54 pm CST
coulod a door have possibly been added, hence the confusion?
ruby~{Randolph} 20:32:07 pm CST
aye Master Rollo...aurora advised girl, You designed the original maps
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:33:02 pm CST
Master Rollo, with utter respect, Mercator You are not.
Aye ruby, there does seem to be an anomaly between the map and the description.
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 20:34:16 pm CST
It always bothered Me... no way out except through the Front door
leatha {GS} 20:35:13 pm CST
nods to Master Bretval.....indeed. what if there a need to leave suddenly and another way?
Rollo the Ax 20:35:49 pm CST
As far as I can see there is a doorway from the tavern to the Piazza ..... you go from the servery past the
alcoves and out the door........Okay ??
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 20:35:54 pm CST
or the Trap door..
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:37:42 pm CST
~gently places her fingertips across Master Bretval's lips~ Master that is a secret little door thingy.
Rollo the Ax 20:38:20 pm CST
Well..... there are 3 front doors... and a back door off of the dias ..... and always the stairs to the second
floor and across to other roofs....... ??
ruby~{Randolph} 20:39:51 pm CST
"When one enters the kitchen from either the Tavern or the adjoining Piazza"
reads to ruby...as a door into the kitchen from the Piazza
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:40:24 pm CST
according to the map, there is no outside entrance to the tavern...you must enter through the piazza..but
the description has you enter from the street and also enter the piazza from the street
Rollo the Ax 20:40:43 pm CST
LOL...LOL... and as for the difference between the maps and the description..... ?? LOL... I drew the
maps, and Xern wrote the description....... LOL...
leatha {GS} 20:41:29 pm CST
nods at the confusion. Makes sense ruby was confused.
Rollo the Ax 20:43:00 pm CST
To trey and clear it up...... the Piazza was added after GS was built...... we had to buy out the
shops/buildings across the small street... knock them down and build the Piazza and the Training yard.....
Rollo the Ax 20:44:49 pm CST
remember also that the Piazza is simply an open air area..... with a very low wall around the boundery ......
leatha {GS} 20:45:29 pm CST
So to get to the training yard one would have to go through that door to get to the Piazza, to walk over to
the training yard?
Rollo the Ax 20:46:01 pm CST
it does have a canvas awning over a good part of it for shade and weather....
leatha {GS} 20:46:56 pm CST
girl was told there was grass and such there in the Piazza. is that wrong?
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 20:47:40 pm CST
At any rate it would appear it does need to be updated...
Rollo the Ax 20:49:05 pm CST
Okay..... there is 1 main door with steps into the tavern... another door to the Piazza..... and a third door
from the bath house/slave kennel/armoury area into the training yard......
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 20:49:42 pm CST
Or perhaps to be accurate... a little tweaking
leatha {GS} 20:50:07 pm CST
girl is new, and she has read and tried to memorize what she has needed to, but if the documents are not
entirely correct, leatha may not do the task correctly and be punished. how long has that document been
there or revised?
Rollo the Ax 20:51:08 pm CST
LOL...LOL... there very well may be grass now.. things could have been done or changed while I has
gone..... in the beginning it was cobblestone or tile...... but some of it could have been pulled for a grass
patch.......
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:51:21 pm CST
there used to be a different map, less detailed but she cannot find it anymore
leatha {GS} 20:52:51 pm CST
smiles hearing Master Rollo's words.
ruby~{Randolph} 20:52:54 pm CST
Master Rollo
ruby means...once in the piazza...from the outside..clad in a camsik..there is a door directly to the
kitchen...correct?
Rollo the Ax 20:55:07 pm CST
Exactly just how things are now is how the present Council wants it to be........ if they have already or in
the future decide to change something then so be it...... I can only speak to how it WAS done back in my
day.....
Rollo the Ax 20:56:32 pm CST
I have tried to find the old maps also..... I had many more in the Home page long ago..... but they seem to
have been removed.... shit happens......
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 20:58:30 pm CST
The piazza has its own firepit with kettles, but it doesn't tell more than that...the kitchen is at the back of
the tavern, and the piazza on the street, so how could they be connected? It needs updating
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 20:58:43 pm CST
Master Rollo, could be perhaps on the old home page?
A girl will have a little fossick around.
Rollo the Ax 20:59:03 pm CST
actually, ruby..... by the old map/layout..... the door goes into the tavern, but then you need to walk part
way across the tavern to the severy........
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 21:00:06 pm CST
Well if the Main door is in the Piazza the room needs to be turned 180 degrees to match the description
and the other maps
ruby~{Randolph} 21:00:45 pm CST
mistress
if one reads the description..there appears to be a direct door..Piazza to kitchen
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:01:55 pm CST
on the old map the front of the tavern and the piazza are on the cobbled street...the piazza could be
entered from the street or tavern.
ruby~{Randolph} 21:02:44 pm CST
"When one enters the kitchen from either the Tavern or the adjoining Piazza"
so the description is incorrect?
Rollo the Ax 21:03:08 pm CST
If there is an OLD home page and a NEW home page I can't tell anybody which one I am looking
at.....LOL... like I have said... if the Council decides to remodel then so be it.....
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:03:24 pm CST
yes she knows ruby...but it also gives a different layout it is not consistent that's why snow always avoids
giving details like that in her serves...
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:04:33 pm CST
chuckling I don't recall any remodelling
ruby~{Randolph} 21:04:37 pm CST
bows her head
"yes, mistress"
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:05:09 pm CST
in training we go by the website information. though it can be contradictory this is on her list to discuss
with the Captains when she may be granted a meeting with Them
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:05:47 pm CST
Master Rollo, the one that one goes to if one clicks on the opening page of the GS.
gorean-shores.com/gorhome/floorplan.html
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:06:31 pm CST
or the one at Angelfire, which is the more up to date one.
Rollo the Ax 21:08:01 pm CST
I can NOT speak to any differences in the descriptions or how they may have been changed during my
absence ..... but I am reminded of the * Chinese Whisper * principle ......LOL... one person starts with a
detail, and by the time it gets 10, or 15 people down the road it very often looks nothing like the
original...... LOL..
leatha {GS} 21:08:25 pm CST
smiles and nods to mistress snowrose. that is why she is mistress.
Rollo the Ax 21:09:19 pm CST
flicka..... I am looking at the Anglefire one......
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:09:57 pm CST
yes Master Rollo...we did an experiment like that in a psychology class...a statement given to one...by the
time it went through us all, it was a completely different, and much embellished story
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 21:10:33 pm CST
That is a good site, flicka
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:11:28 pm CST
Master Rollo, the Angelfire one is the one that is updated, the other one, is the one that belongs to the
home, it is very confusing, but flicka's understanding is that The WebMaster would prefer for this link to
be at the entrance of Gorean Shores:
gorean-shores.com/gorhome/homepage.html
Rollo the Ax 21:11:58 pm CST
We all need to remember that NOBODY is perfect and we ALL can make mistakes....... so don't be too
hard on yourself or others if such is done........
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:13:02 pm CST
neither of them is the one she learned by...it seems to be gone for good
OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:16:45 pm CST
smiling I am Shocked,, Shocked that everyone here isn't perfect.. grinning,, I certainly have never claimed
perfection
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 21:17:43 pm CST
As I said this gorean-shores.com/gorhome/floorplan.html is a good one but the Tavern Details is 180
degrees out of kilter.. fix that and the problem is corrected
Rollo the Ax 21:20:18 pm CST
is it truly earth-shattering if a door is over here or over there ?? It would be nice to be exactly correct.. but
hey, when we are here to have fun and enjoy ourselves to let a minor technical difference bug us seems
counterproductive ..... ** La,la, la, la,la,la...Don't worry..... be HAPPY...... ** LOL..
Rollo the Ax 21:22:05 pm CST
LOL...LOL... yes, brother..... the only * perfect * that I get close to is perfectly screwed up .........LOL..
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:22:53 pm CST
As she said, this one just never mentions those details, and concentrates on telling how beautiful she is
and how utterly sexy the Masters are, and somehow getsfrom here to there
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 21:25:25 pm CST
hardly earth-shattering. Rollo... but annoying.. and obviously confusing to the slaves who are expected to
be 'perfect' or risk losing their heads
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:26:24 pm CST
mistress while flicka agrees with you that we do not need to sweat the details, if flicka gets herself boxed
into a corner, well she would just invoke a deus ex machina.
But having said that flicka can see that for new, less experienced slaves, it would be important for them to
KNOW exactly the layout etc. it would give them the support to become more confident in their serving,
in the manner you are indicating, ie; showing beauty and highlighting the sexuality of the Masters.
leatha {GS} 21:27:02 pm CST
listens intently
ruby~{Randolph} 21:27:02 pm CST
yes Master Rollo
well put..thank You
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:27:56 pm CST
she agrees flicka, and she hopes in the new year it can be updated and made clear
Rollo the Ax 21:32:13 pm CST
LOL...LOL... perhaps, Bretval..... but to expect PERFECTION is not only folly but subjective..... what is
perfect to one, may well be lacking to another..... I have NEVER professed perfection in ANY subject or
action, and so would never demand nor expect perfection from another....... to offer ones BEST is all that
can be asked of them....... but one must be willing and able to reply with the same to those they deal
with.......
flicka~ slave of Jarl Keeper. 21:33:35 pm CST
Thank You for leading forum Master Sandman.
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 21:33:50 pm CST
LOL... sorry Rollo... I confused you with Dak for a moment there
Rollo the Ax 21:36:07 pm CST
LOL...LOL... Bretval....... I have been called some LOW things before...... and maybe deserved it at
times....... but * Dak * ?? that is hitting below the belt well and truly......
LOL...LOL...LMAO......
Bretval: Scribe~Warrior~Merchant 21:37:57 pm CST
LOL...
Rollo the Ax 21:41:13 pm CST
Well folks..... it looks like it is that time again.... Mickey's little hand is to his left, and his big hand is
covering his crotch ... LOL.. that is military time at least...... LOL... Time to call it a day/night........ be
well all......
ruby~{Randolph} 21:42:24 pm CST
thank You for leading Master Rollo
pretty flicka for scribing
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:42:49 pm CST
Thank You Master Rollo...~smiles~
leatha {GS} 21:43:09 pm CST
thank You for helping lead with Master Sandman, Master Rollo.
thank you flicka for scribing.
snowrose{JTr}'s pleasure~GS~fg 21:43:11 pm CST
Thank you for scribing, flicka
Rollo the Ax 21:44:07 pm CST
LOL.. Sandman was in-charge... I just seem to do most of the talking...... LOL..
