Present:
Thorrn
Keeper
Dak
Kazar
Lita
snowrose
nasreen
jessenia
karinda
karma
flicka
Dak 19:44:34 pm CDT
Ok, I will open the forum, I have a topic, same rules, keep chit chat and greetings to whispers as much as possible,
1st topic
How do people feel aboutFree being here in GS and in other chat areas at the same time. there isnt a rule against the Free doing it, but does that make it right for them to do it?
Lita, Physician 19:46:11 pm CDT
I believe there is a rule against the slaves doing that, is there not?
nasreen{TH} 19:46:34 pm CDT
girl thinks that if they are in more then one place then just as it would be for a girl the focus is not here...attention should be focused on GS when in GS
jessenia {Ramses} 19:47:24 pm CDT
There is a rule against slaves doing it, but of course the Free have no rule for it.
nasreen{TH} 19:47:24 pm CDT
aye Mistress Lita there is a rule against slaves doing it
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:47:44 pm CDT
IMHO doing this when One is in chat in here it is a kind of showing noo respect to the peopel One talks to.
If One is alone in here and hopes to drag other Gorean people in, as i do sometimes, then it is too dull just to wait here and i´m sometimes also chating in Poolside at the same time ... and snore in the tavern while waiting and hoping *l*
Lita, Physician 19:48:26 pm CDT
Do many of the Free here actually do this? I know We often visit other places, but I have not been aware of the Free dualling in two places at once.
nasreen{TH} 19:49:21 pm CDT
flicka and nas both caught You snoring the other night Jarl Thorrn
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 19:49:22 pm CDT
It's very hard on the slaves...and snow for one never goes to Poolside, so just thinks the Free has gone but not signed out, and suddenly there He is again
Kazar~infamous pirate 19:49:29 pm CDT
Jarl Thorn grins as i do also ~
jessenia {Ramses} 19:49:30 pm CDT
jesse doesn't think it's actually considered "dualing" not in the sense at least that she sees "dualing" as being. But yes, it does happen.
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 19:50:16 pm CDT
The most basic answer would be if a person is doing that and no one is aware of it because the person is a rapid typist or can multi-task well, then at the most basic level there is not a problem.
Where it becomes an issue, is when people in GS are waiting for a reply and the person's reply is too slow.
However, the real issue is one of priority.
What is more important, what should take precedence.
That is really a ethical issue.
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:50:18 pm CDT
chuckles at flicka and nasreen
That is what happens when a Jarl is unattented in the Tavern for so long
Dak 19:50:36 pm CDT
I am sometimes in both places but usually I am watching for someone, otherwise I just let it timeout
nasreen{TH} 19:50:39 pm CDT
and yes Mistress Lita it happens...
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 19:51:42 pm CDT
she thinks it should apply to the Free, but how can it They are Free...But it would be considerate of Them to sign out...whenever They leave...It's just one keystroke
nasreen{TH} 19:51:45 pm CDT
this one tried to awaken You Jarl Thorrn
Lita, Physician 19:52:21 pm CDT
Even if a Free is a fast typist, if there is activity going on in both places, I really don't see how They could give proper focus to both "rooms". Which I too feel is somewhat disrespectful to the other parties in both rooms.
jessenia {Ramses} 19:52:46 pm CDT
jesse thinks this is perhaps a touchy subject for slaves, because for some of us it comes down to the issue of us perhaps serving a person who is doing such, we all know life for a slave isn't fair, but in the chat world, we're using our time to be here to be a part of this life, and is it fair for us not to have the attention of the one we are serving?
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:53:20 pm CDT
Keeper
I think when some waited alone in the Tavern and soemelse shows up it is also for Free a kind of normal courtousy and respect to end one of those chats and concentrate on just one. It is in rt too also for just a short acceptable of someone talks about different tipics to two different person, in My opinion.
I would tell such a person after a while that I will go to talk with soemelse if I don´t get the attention.
Dak 19:53:25 pm CDT
I don't usually do it if I am engaged in something here !
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 19:54:32 pm CDT
Timing out is what she means ..That makes it hard for a slave who enters..or has offered to serve..how long does she have to wait before giving up
flicka-slave of Keeper 19:54:46 pm CDT
~looks to Jarl Thorrn for an ihn~
Jarl a girl can see Your point and while she understands the practicalities of Your actions, they can be misconstrued, if someone sees You in both places at once.
But ~smiling~ of course a Master may invoke "The Infallibilty Rule".
For flicka what is more to the issue, is if she is say serving a Master, and receiving very little or no responses to her posts. And at the end is holding the beverage/food to Him and is holding the beverage/ food to Him and is holding the beverage /food to Him, and He is away in another chat and has taken a long time to accept the offering.
On so many levels it can be destructive to a slave's psyche.
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:55:53 pm CDT
agrees to jessenia
A slave puts her bets in a service, or at least is supposded to do and a Free should honout it by paying attention, though the Free doesn´t have to, He or She can ignore a slave in service and just take the offered refershement, she is only slave and can´t demand anything but how long will that be fun for the slaves?
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 19:56:52 pm CDT
Speaking for Myself.
When I am in Gorean Shores, I am in Gorean Shores.
My first reply I was not thinking of Poolside, I was thinking of other methods of communication on the internet.
I also think the idea of multi-tasking etc. is rubbish, all the educational research agrees with Me.
That is people, including students cannot effectively do homework and listen to music for example.
Lita, Physician 19:56:59 pm CDT
I think it is hard enough for Most of Us to give full focus here when invariably we have RT pulling at our coattails, without having to try to focus on another conversat ion in yet another room! *chuckle*
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:57:18 pm CDT
May be My sleep has been too long already, nasreen
and i was already in the deep rapid eye movement stage?
jessenia {Ramses} 19:57:19 pm CDT
exactly Jarl Thorrn, if we were on Gor a girl would simply have to live with it, but when it gets down to brass tacks on it, none of us "have" to be here and if it isn't fun or doesn't satisfy something for any of us, we're going to move on to what does
Lita, Physician 19:58:03 pm CDT
Which leads us, Keeper, to the topic of cell phones and texting while driving. *chuckle*
Dak 19:59:06 pm CDT
we have cell phones on Gor ?????? *grin*
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 19:59:15 pm CDT
flicka
as I said, after someone comes up in th GS One should make up One´s mind to stop being in both rooms and end one of the chats and concentrate on that one
As I went out about that time to go to bed I didn´t see you in the tavern anymore and was gone
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:00:40 pm CDT
That is an important point in all of the Grean online life, jessenia
Unfotunately the slaves are still able to leave if they don´t like it *l*
So Free do care to keep you in thought *wink*
Lita, Physician 20:01:48 pm CDT
*grins at Dak* Some folks seem to think so, Dak *chuckle*
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:02:05 pm CDT
Sure, Dak
Didn´t you find them cell phones in the latest book of John Norman?
*chuckles as I tease You*
nasreen{TH} 20:02:54 pm CDT
perhaps so Jarl Thorrn
she doesn't mind if the Free ignore her up to the point of making the offer of the drink or food, but arms do get tired holding a drink or platter of food for extended time
Dak 20:03:05 pm CDT
I thought smoke signals was about it in Gor, *smiles*
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:03:10 pm CDT
I agree with Thorrn. It is a matter of respect and courtesy to focus on just one thing.
Even when dealing with slave.
Yes We can take Our time, ignore, chat to others, or what ever We please.
Just because You can do a thing, that does not mean you should do a thing.
Being a Master is as much about self-discipline and control of one's self as it is about control of slave etc.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:04:13 pm CDT
Forgive a girl Jarl Thorrn if You thought that in any way she was "chastising You" heaven forbid, for the other night.
A girl knew that You were sleeping, and would have ventured to tickle Your whiskers a little to awaken You, but alas her own Jarl began demanding attention and flicka could not remain.
You, Jarl Thorrn of all the Masters that flicka has served would be among the most attentive to the girl serving, responding after every post and not in a mechanical way.
When flicka serves You, her heart becomes joyous.
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:04:26 pm CDT
what about slaves who are in poolside...should they keep an eye on GS and come home when a Free has entered...
nasreen{TH} 20:05:12 pm CDT
if one can not Master oneself how does He or She plan to Master a slave?
jessenia {Ramses} 20:06:20 pm CDT
if they are in the "mood" (for the lack of a better word) to serve. personally if jesse is at PS she isn't in a slave state of mind and wont come serve if she cant put all of herself into it
if that makes sense
Lita, Physician 20:06:33 pm CDT
I would agree with that also, snow.
karma [Q] ~ süß küsse~ 20:06:38 pm CDT
nods in agreedment with nassy
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:06:41 pm CDT
Exactly nasreen.
Dak 20:07:03 pm CDT
she is correct to do that, *smiles*
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:07:06 pm CDT
she has never understood how slaves in a Gorean collar can be in a barbarian chatroom alone...even with their Master is a stretch, but that is up to Him
karma [Q] ~ süß küsse~ 20:07:31 pm CDT
amen jesse...that's how karma is
Lita, Physician 20:07:47 pm CDT
And you have a point there, jessenia, but do you not use some other name in poolside, as the rooms there are not Gor? Especially now that Sophie and Portus have abandoned the Inn.
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:08:50 pm CDT
she thinks girls should have another persona in poolside...even if it means not having an icon
nasreen{TH} 20:08:57 pm CDT
there are times that nasreen has a few ehns to chat, but not to fully serve so she will venture to Poolside where the rules are not Gorean..
Master knows this...she hasn't done it in along awhile and those that venture there know they haven't seen her lately
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:09:28 pm CDT
jesse, flicka has said many times; "Don't bring your problems to GS. If you are not in the right frame of mind, to go, don't do it."
Getting back to the comment about Mastering One-self, to Me that rule should apply to A/all.
If your not not here to give your all, don't come.
nasreen{TH} 20:10:02 pm CDT
we paid for our memberships that are valid in both sites, why should we not be allowed to use our icons if our Master's permit it?
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:10:25 pm CDT
The old, important question nasreen
bein a Master needs to master oneself first.
Whispers ... but it doesn´t prevent, like with slaves, that MAsters can have lapses too. But they should learn from them, quickly
snowrose
That is an old rule, when slves e.g. in the Gorean Inn at Poolside they have to keep an eyey on GS to let no Master be unattented when He comes in.
All is well, flicka
Just felt the need to explain that I often try to drag people in, or make people coming in to stay there but sometimes I in for so long, as mostly My postings, show that I may have missed someone because I check GS less frequently from all the waiting.
Lita, Physician 20:11:56 pm CDT
I would agree there, snowrose. It would prevent any confusion if you had another persona or character for poolside, since it isn't Gor.
jessenia {Ramses} 20:11:59 pm CDT
jesse used to have two life accounts and had a completely different poolside name, but when she took her break she gifted one of her accounts to someone, so now if she goes over there she goes as jesse, with the collar of Master's PS name... but she doesn't go into the Inn at all... if jesse is going to be in Gor she will be here at GS...
karinda {GS} 20:12:00 pm CDT
karinda has an lifetime membership as another persona in poolside, and she cannot use it. the rule has been that a slave from GS must wear her collar and name from here and represent her home.
nasreen{TH} 20:12:02 pm CDT
smiles at Jarl Thorrn she understands that also
nasreen{TH} 20:13:08 pm CDT
this girl for one can not afford two memberships
jessenia {Ramses} 20:13:17 pm CDT
For some the option of paying for multiple accounts isn't there, when jesse had two accounts she was able to, but these days it's not something she could do
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:13:46 pm CDT
yes she knows that nasreen...but could a girl not have an icon that doesn't show her Gorean collar to use there...sorry, this one doesn't know how it works with icons there.
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:14:12 pm CDT
karinda thier i differ some in dm dont like having gor being brought thuer at all ~```~
`~ lIKE Ramses i have morre than one lifer use my other name for Poolside
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:14:42 pm CDT
she didn't mean have two accounts...
jessenia {Ramses} 20:14:58 pm CDT
karinda, dont quote jesse, but she believes that rule is if you go in as karinda... you are GS.. but if you go in with your other account under a different name you are that person... not karinda the GS slave..
when jesse was Tavern owned she had a seperate name and account for PS and nothing was ever said about it... because she never went in to a Gorean setting with that other name
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:15:01 pm CDT
We seem to have slipped a little from the topic, this was about Free Persons dual channelling.
We as slaves are NOT permitted to do it. That is the rule, flicka abides by rules.
nasreen{TH} 20:15:20 pm CDT
the log in name would be the same mistress snowrose for those that don't have two accounts, and all of her icons show Master's name
Lita, Physician 20:15:29 pm CDT
It is my understanding that you have a certain number of slots allotted, and you can put any icons in them you want. Why couldn't you have a non-Gorean icon for use when you were not in Gor?
jessenia {Ramses} 20:16:16 pm CDT
mistress, a girl can have other icons with the same name, just as jesse does, but if she used a different name such as "chessie" for example as jesse did... she could only sign in as jessenia, even if the icon said chessie...
karma [Q] ~ süß küsse~ 20:16:29 pm CDT
karma wears her name and collar no matter the venue...its a matter of respect for her collar and in this case her home
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:16:34 pm CDT
jesse aye `~
nasreen{TH} 20:17:07 pm CDT
thank you for explaining that better then nas did jessenia
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:17:24 pm CDT
Are W/we specifically talking about Pool Side only, or is there an issue with people using say Yahoo, MSM Skype and the like?
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:17:45 pm CDT
narseen ~~~ grins remebers long ago when yiu were in poolside `
karinda {GS} 20:18:35 pm CDT
doesn't work that way Mistress Lita. when karinda first went to poolside she had the name Romantique. when she moved down to the dm and liked it there....she decided to change her name. karinda change all her slots almost to pretty lace dress.....but the membership stayed the same....and her name of Romatique would appear on the drop list. so if a Master or slave went in and just changed an icon to the name they desire....true the icon in that particular would show the nam they want, but the dro list would show their GS name.
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:18:44 pm CDT
well as she said, she doesn't know how it works over there...but people from there seem to watch GS, and they see gs slaves there, and unattended Masters in the tavern, it doesn't look good..she is not talking about personal slaves,
nasreen{TH} 20:18:53 pm CDT
long ago Master Kazar when she was nascargirl ..she remembers...the icons with the race cars....
she rarely enters over there any more
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:19:01 pm CDT
flicka
The discussion now is not about slaves dualling in two chats but about a slave also going to Poolside and using another nick
As far as I remember for personal owned slaves that is up to the rules of the Owner
For GS owned slaves it is allwoed, but her both identies must be clear, means it must be known to the Captains what her other , non-gorean nick is. And she must not faign to be two different persons, just use the other non-gorean nick.
karinda {GS} 20:20:32 pm CDT
Jarl Keeper.....a slave isn't permitted to have anything else up when she is serving GS
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:21:27 pm CDT
~Looking at Thorrn and karinda.~
Good.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:22:23 pm CDT
Thank You Jarl Thorrn, a girl does get confused regarding GS slaves. For her it is simple, she does as her Jarl requires. She is flicka {Keeper} and that is that, the times she has ventured to Poolside she is flicka, all of her icons say Keeper as well.
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:23:29 pm CDT
karinda
I know from personal experinces that a GS slave can come with another name to Poolside.The Captain allowed that when I was for a time with a former fg of GS but not yet pledged to Port Kar.
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:23:50 pm CDT
~Chuckling~
Indeed they do flicka, even the 'Teddy Bear' one!
Dak 20:24:59 pm CDT
have we beat this to death long enough I have another topic
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:25:20 pm CDT
~looks to Master Dak
karinda {GS} 20:25:32 pm CDT
Jarl Thorrn.....with all respect......karinda is recollecting a forum since girl has been here, where the SlaveMaster secured the rule as slave of GS has to wear her collar and represent GS.
nasreen{TH} 20:25:41 pm CDT
turns her attention to Master Dak
karma [Q] ~ süß küsse~ 20:26:06 pm CDT
listens for another topic
Dak 20:26:19 pm CDT
Next Topic
Two topics this week: A) Capping names and pronouns;
B) Using book quotes properly
Quotes For This Week
I searched and searched and searched and could not find
one quote on capping names and pronouns. - Page 1
"Free women, in being free, command attention when they
speak."
- Explorers of Gor - Page 354
"'Only stupid girls rebel,' said Mira, 'and they are
soon taught its uselessness.'"
- Page 296 - Blood
Brothers of Gor
"'Sometimes,' I said, 'girls, some girls, who are not
sure of their slavery, and its limits, will test their
masters.'"
- Blood Brothers of Gor - Page 73
"Men were the masters. Did they not know that? Why did
they not enforce their power, their will upon us? Could
they not see what we wanted, what we needed? Were they
so inattentive and so insensitive? Were they so stupid,
so blind?"
- Kajira of Gor - Page 152
Questions
1) What is the purpose of capping?
2) Today's quotes were taken randomly and out of
context. How does this help someone in Gor?
3) Why should or shouldn't quotes be used for face
value? Why should they be used at all?
jessenia {Ramses} 20:26:32 pm CDT
karinda, jesse is sure it can be cleared up, but she's pretty sure that rule is meant for when you go into the Inn at poolside, in any other room you can use your other account
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:27:11 pm CDT
that is true karinda...she was just giving her opinion
Dak 20:28:15 pm CDT
capping separates Free from slaves, plus helps a slave remember his/her place
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:28:24 pm CDT
karinda, if it was this year all the forums are posted on the webpages, you can check.
karma [Q] ~ süß küsse~ 20:28:41 pm CDT
the capping of names doesn't appear in the books because of literary rightness. Or proper grammer if You will
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:29:01 pm CDT
if i go to the inn i use Kazar ` ~`when am in the DM i use my other name ~`` ``
in the DM they do not want too here about GOR ~
karinda {GS} 20:29:26 pm CDT
nods at all the comments....clears her throat and listens to the next topic of Capping
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:30:06 pm CDT
nods to jessenia about the difference in going to the Gorean Inn and other rooms
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:30:27 pm CDT
Capitalization is an easy, effective device to communicate on-line the status of a person, that is Master or slave.
A classic example of the practicalities of life over-ruling the impracticalities of some aspects of the books.
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:30:39 pm CDT
Flicka feels that surely it is merely a convention to cap the Free Person, for how, when one first meets a Free Person or a slave can one know what they are?
~chuckling~ flicka can see Masters walking around declaiming " I am a Master My name is fred"
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:31:49 pm CDT
Capping is not done in the books, at least not consequently
I remember that slaves names are capped and theat He, She and such don´t appear beyond the usual spelling in english language
it is an online habit to make in the typing clear who is slave and who is Master.
nasreen{TH} 20:32:22 pm CDT
listening
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:33:02 pm CDT
It's simply a convenience to avoid confusion online.
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:34:39 pm CDT
no, she remembers it as karinda does...that they can go in their collar to all the rooms
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:36:34 pm CDT
snowrose, et. el are correct. In the books capitals are use to denote Proper Nouns, here W/we choose not to because it easier to use another convention.
jessenia {Ramses} 20:37:35 pm CDT
jesse will check with Master before she says anything else on the subject..
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:37:36 pm CDT
To address question 3, within the context of Gorean books, quotes are very dangerous, the inconsistencies within the books (some 30 odd) make it possible to find a quote to support most arguments and assertions.
~smiling at Mistress Lita~ But not that there are vampires and goblins on Gor.
nasreen{TH} 20:38:36 pm CDT
one reference to the rule...
Thadron - Captain/Slave Master 20:02:20 pm CST
giani.. as Slave Master I still request GS slaves not to go to the Inn on their own without permission or escort...
from 1/22/2012
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:40:23 pm CDT
Quotes out of context usually detract from writing, not add to it.
A good contextual quote can explain, elaborate or explore a point.
(Sounding too much like a teacher!)
Kazar~infamous pirate 20:40:42 pm CDT
narsen that was also done cause of the conflict with Portus and the council~~
now since Portus relinquished the aTavern `` know one is running it now
i do spend more time in thier lately see whats up ~
Lita, Physician 20:41:12 pm CDT
2 and 3. Regarding using random quotes. One does need
to check the conterxt of the quote, and check for other
quotes on the subject, but they can be of use in and of
themselves. Earth has many different cultures upon it,
and the different cultures do things differently. It is
the same with Gor There are some things that are more
or less universal, and other things that are unique to
one or another culture on Gor. It is not necessarily
that Norman contradicts himself. One needs to look at
the context of a quote and see what "culture" is being
represented at the time. Then look for other quotes on
the same topic, which, while seemingly random, may come
together to make a whole.
As far as the quote on Free Women commanding attention
when They speak, this is not just one random quote.
There are numerous quotes throughout the books regarding
Free Women being able to speak as They please, and being
respected even by Their Male counterparts. And yes,
They could "cross the line" and earn Themselves a
collar. However, in reading the books One definitely
does NOT find a Society of Men running around looking to
collar everything that moves! Free Men had lives,
businesses to attend to, places to go and things to do.
And They relied on Free Women to assist Them in Their
endeavors, and attend to Their Households and businesses
when the Men had to be away, and to train Their slaves
in the mundane chores that slaves had to do and to see
that the slaves were "up to snuff" in their duties.
Free Women were full members of certain Castes, and
practiced those castes on an equal level with Men. So
when One finds a single quote, One needs to recognize
its value relative to the context, and to check further
to see if it refers to something unique to one of the
cultures, or is a universal practice on Gor.
Then there's the quote on slaves not touching knives or
weapons. Even in the same sentence with that quote, the
character states He assumes there is an exception made
for the slave using tools necessary for performing of
his/her duties, i. e. in the kitchens, or in the fields,
which might also be used as weapons under other
circumstances. And the incident where Bosk's slaves
joined Him on the roof of His dwelling and grabbed
weapons and fought off the attackers. They were
CERTAINLY not reprimanded in any way for this!
That is why I do not usually recommend reading web
sites, because they have rules appropriate for the
particular site they were written for, which might not
apply elsewhere. Or they might have taken one lone
quote and mis-applied it in some way, or included on-
line-isms they are fond of. The only web-site I know to
have been book-accurate was The Central Fire, and alas,
it is long gone. I know it was book accurate because I
wrote a few things for it, and knew the people who wrote
other items for it. And I knew the Owner of it.
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:41:13 pm CDT
nasreen
Different times, different rules
That will have been because at that time the Innn was under the guide of Sophie and Portus
And of cause also valid is
Different SlaveMAsters, different rules
So soemthing things and rules may change from time to time, of cause it should be clear which is valid NOW
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:41:27 pm CDT
but that has changed now ..that was during the time of Master Portus in charge..just recently the Slave Master encouraged us to spend a little time in the Inn...do a brief chore
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:41:35 pm CDT
~hides her head to smother her yawn, as Teacher mode kicks in~
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:42:28 pm CDT
~Smacks flicka's bum.~
Cheeky girl!
~Grinning.~
nasreen{TH} 20:43:03 pm CDT
aye she knows that things change
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:43:50 pm CDT
Keeper
For Me that didn´t sound too much like a teacher
For Me it sounded right to the point.
Using a quote depends what one intends to achive with that quoting and how the quote fits to the context.
So there are different useful wayss to use or to abuse a quote.
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:44:28 pm CDT
now goes to read Lady Litas text ... will take some time
*S*
Dak 20:45:13 pm CDT
quotes in the books are often like quotes in the Bible, conflictd
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:47:16 pm CDT
Lita
I think Your quote said in the long way about the same what the compressed form of Keeper said
*smile*
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:47:41 pm CDT
A pretty important thing with quotes is that they are attributed to the author, always.
Dak 20:47:57 pm CDT
before anymore leave I was asked to post the forum protocols
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:48:23 pm CDT
Thorrn, it is like anything, it how things are used.
Lita, Physician 20:48:24 pm CDT
Not necessarily conflicting, Dak. Again, there were variations in practices among the various cultures represented on Gor. And things were often done differently in Cities than in the country even in the same culture.
Dak 20:48:50 pm CDT
Forum Protocols and Rules and Times
FORUM TIMES
Forums commence at 7. pm Poolside Chat time on Forum nights or
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Dak 20:49:23 pm CDT
these are listed in the GS info pages under Forums
Lita, Physician 20:49:28 pm CDT
You are correct on that, Thorrn
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:49:53 pm CDT
flicka, you know My mind girl!
Plagiarism is a curse and a blight that I deal with every working day.
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:50:09 pm CDT
Dak
When O/one knows the books well, one could proof nearly everything by quotes, against and for soemthing that is in question
*l*
That is the way it is with thick books, or a compilation of many books
Ask the former communists how they feared people who have realyl read Karl MArx and the Capital, the were not admire they were feared becasue they were alwas right with the right quote *L*
Lita, Physician 20:52:17 pm CDT
*looks around to see if anyone appears to be afraid of Her, and sighs, finding they do not appear to be.*
Dak 20:52:25 pm CDT
aye, but that was written all by one person, an John Norman was often inconsistent
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:52:57 pm CDT
Slightly OOC - Thorrn; Is Das Kapital easier to read in German than it is in English. It did My head in!
~Chuckling.~
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:53:12 pm CDT
I see, I will have to ahve a fresh look at the GS info websites
Thanks for posting this Dak
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 20:53:26 pm CDT
of course the time has been changed to 7:30...it will be changed as work continues on the webpages..
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:53:28 pm CDT
Jarl Thorrn Your words ring true, history is easily perverted, but if one uses source material, in this case Das Kapital, then the revisionists come unstuck. ~smiling at Jarl Thorrn~
Dak 20:54:00 pm CDT
Welcome, *smiles* I have been around GS for quite long time
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:54:37 pm CDT
~Turning to flicka.~
Did you hear snowrose, another job!
~Chuckles.~
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:55:04 pm CDT
Keeper/Dak
I have NO idea what exactly got written in the Kapital
I nerv read it as i´m grown up in West germany
My poor fwllow germans in the eastern part were not so lucky
But i got told so and only can believe it and not proof the oppsite
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:57:14 pm CDT
Afraid of You, Lita
Na, Wwe all love YOu
*S*
Dak 20:58:05 pm CDT
I will post it next forum for more to see, *smiles*
flicka-slave of Keeper 20:58:19 pm CDT
yes my Jarl, flicka heard the mistress, and yes a scholar's slave's work is never done. Alas alack.
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 20:59:20 pm CDT
Thorrn, you can get a Das Kapital PDF file on line.
Thorrn; don't do it!
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 20:59:25 pm CDT
As I said, times change and things change
Here even literally
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:00:17 pm CDT
Erases that remark about The Capital as pdf-file
Don´t what to be enticed to read that *L*
Dak 21:00:53 pm CDT
well, if all are done with the forum I will close it , and thank all for coming and participating
flicka-slave of Keeper 21:01:14 pm CDT
Thank You for leading Master Dak.
Jarl Thorrn enjoys roses 21:01:37 pm CDT
Thank YOu Dak for leading the forum another time
And thank you to the scribe for the protocoll
I think it will be flicka, won´t she
snowrose{JTr}~GS~fg 21:02:29 pm CDT
Thank You for leading Master Dak..
and thank You Mistress for the topics
Thank you for scribing flicka
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 21:02:56 pm CDT
Yes Thorrn, Einstein was right, time changes, the only consistent thing in the universe is the speed of light, which segues nice back to how inconsistent JN's writings are!
Keeper- The Keeper of flicka 21:04:27 pm CDT
Thank You Dak for leading
Thank You flicka for scribing.
Thank You A/all for your input.
