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THE DRAGON-SLAYER
Vol. I, No. 4 (November, 1995)

THE DRAGON-SLAYER is the official publication of the S.P.E.A.R.S. organization ("Soldiers Protecting Earth Against Reptilian Subversion").DISCLAIMER: This publication is devoted to exposing malevolent alien interference on Earth, however we do not advocate the teaching that ALL alien activity originating from extraterrestrial, otherdimensional and subterranean realms are necessarily of an evil or malignant nature. As they say, "For every one demon there are two angels..."

FROM THE EDITOR:

This issue will be a little different in format from earlier issues. This is mainly due to the way it came together. We will continue with the "letters" section beginning with the next issue. I've recieved some very interesting feedback which I intend to share, so please bear with me. In future issues the three themes of UFO (Above), Subsurface (Below) and Conspiracy (Within) phenomena will serve as the foundation for the newsletter as in the past, however I will refrain from classifying them in different sections, as much of the information dealt with in this newsletter already contains these three facets, for instance "the conspiracy to conceal underground UFO bases..." and so on. With this in mind, I now present my own personal story and a history of personal experiences which led up to my present "interest" in the cosmic conspiracy.

DREAMLAND IN THE ROCKIES, by B. Alan Walton

Since the age of 12, I have had an intense interest in the subject of UFOlogy, which was sparked after reading Frank Edwards' book FLYING SAUCERS, SERIOUS BUSINESS. I hear that Edwards died mysteriously some years after writing the book. This book led to a further interest in the investigation of Subsurface anomalies, followed by a still later fascination with Conspiracy research (all-together, they represent the study of that which is Above, Below and Within).

In past issues I have written about the three general E.T. classifications or three interstellar networks, each having their own agendas. I will attempt a brief [nutshell] description of all three as a result of my own research:

THE FEDERATION: A mostly HUMANOID interplanetary network of NON-INTERVENTIONISTS who can for the most part be traced back to the early refugees of the LYRAN WARS which resulted when the Draconians attacked the major human colonial world(s) of Lyra. These Federation systems now include such sectors as the ANDROMEDA constellation, the HYADES and PLEIADES open clusters [and some believe, the "antimatter" universe counterparts of those and other clusters that were colonized, by the DAL-ITES and KOLDASIANS for instance], VEGA LYRA, IUMMO - WOLF 424, ALPHA-PROXIMA CENTAURI, TAU CETI, EPSILON ERIDANI, the AMORCANS, the KONDRASHKIN and others.

THE COLLABORATE: This is a rather loose classification and denotes those cultures which range from a conservative "Interventionist" stand all the way down to those humanoid cultures that interact with and are controlled by the Draconians. Some of the sectors that might be included in this classification are as follows. BERNARDS STAR - Humans who reportedly had a hand in the formation of the American Republic, yet may have had some interaction with the Grays in the past; KORENDER [star Korena, Smithsonian catolog #083105 ] -- the founder of a massive interstellar alliance of humanoid and non-humanoid worlds, centered in Arcturia [Arcturus?], and of a somewhat conservative Interventionist yet non-imperialist nature; BETELGEUSE - apparently a multi-planeted system in Orion inhabited by both Reptilian Grays and Nepheli [giant] humanoids that are in conflict with each other; BOOTES CENTAURUS -- same situation as Betelgeuse, although more star systems involved; SIRIUS MAJOR and SIRIUS-B -- Reports of Humanoid, Reptilioid, Amphibious and Insectoid activity in this system exist. Some of the humanoid cultures are allegedly at war with the reptilian Grays, whereas others are involved in collaboration; PROCYON -- formerly a "Nordic" world which made the mistake of allowing for a "cultural exchange" with the saurian grays, which led to a subtle infiltration of their culture and finally an overt takeover. Those who were not killed in the attack were turned into slaves and those who escaped were forced to engage in time-space guerrilla warfare in an attempt to one-day retake their world; ALDEBARAN - Reportedly colonized by the ancient Sumerians, this culture was allegedly very intimately involved with the occultists who ran the Third Reich, and by the same reasoning, were no doubt also in collaboration with the Draconian Empire.

THE EMPIRIUM: A massive empire of IMPERIALIST or INTERVENTIONIST Reptilian species. The major center seems to be in ALPHA DRACONIS, then EPSILON BOOTES. Other systems involved in this empire, or its sub-empires, include BELLATRIX and RIGEL in ORION, ALTAIR AQUILA, CAPELLA and of course the notorious ZETA RETICULI. These contain a menagerie of Reptilioid species: the Winged Draco, "winged serpents" or pterosaurian reptilians; the 6-9 ft. "Lizard-Men" or Reptiloids which are describes as being mostly greenish in color; genetic Insectoid-Reptilioid hybrids -- in some cases possessing cybernetic or mechanical appendages; the human-sized reptiloids that have been described as being black, green, brown, or orange-skinned -- kind of a 'cross' between the tall reptilioids and smaller grays; "Amphibious" hominoids 4-7 ft. tall that have been described as "frog-faced" lizards; and numerous types of reptilian "Grays" of blue-gray, yellow-gray, whitish-gray, greenish-gray, brownish-gray or slate-gray pigmentation.

This brings us now to Earth, namely to the present "battleground" or staging-ground between the three groups, a huge subterranean network known as DREAMLAND. Since the United States of America is the most strategic "target" on which the Draconian-Bavarian combine has its sites (being the last obstacle standing in the way of the joint Reptilian-Bavarian Illuminati's NEW WORLD ORDER, which is based after the Reptilian collective-mind-control-annihilation-of-consciousness system as opposed to the Christian ideal of INDIVIDUAL liberty and free thought), it goes without saying that the most strategic subterranean system below the U.S. (Dreamland) is also a major target.

"Dreamland" has been identified as an underground system of vast proportions consisting of natural cavernous networks connected via artificial tunnels and installations. It reportedly has its main concentration below the Western front of the Rockies of Utah, stretches north into Idaho, east into Colorado, south into Arizona, and west into Nevada. All four of these extensions reportedly contain joint-interaction bases below the following sites: Burley, Idaho; Creed, Colorado; Page, Arizona; and the notorious Groom Lake base, Nevada. Underground extensions of Dreamland reportedly connect with the United Federation systems below California and with the Draconian Empire systems below New Mexico, both of which are fighting for control of the "Dreamland" system. This is not to say that smaller Federation outposts do not exist in New Mexico, because they do. In the same manner Draconian outposts also exist in California -- some of the most notorious being Mt. Lassen, Clear Lake/Hopland, and Deep Springs near Bishop. But the major Federation base in North America is in California and the major Draconian base is in New Mexico.

I had suspected the existence of this massive underground system long before I read the account that I will quote near the end of this article. Since I was a child I've had "dreams" and impressions of being taken nocturnally into underground systems below the 4 corners region and central Utah., many of these dream-like recollections involving apparent "Shaverian" type conflicts or interactions between humans and reptilians, hybrid children, and the works. Many of these "hybrids" by the way have human souls, being that they are conceived with stolen human semen and ova and then "spliced" or "infused" with reptilian or cattle DNA -- I prefer to refer to these humanoids as hu-brids and those possessing no soul-matrix, something which the reptilians themselves lack, as the re-brids. The main differences between the hubrids and rebrids would be round pupils vs. slit vertical pupils; five fingers vs. four; external reproductive organs vs. internal; and crimson blood vs. the greenish fluid used by the Grays. Of course this "test" would not always apply to the "Chameleons", which other than the eyes may require an entirely different method of identification (such as instruments that can discern aura energy-field patterns). Many if not most of the hu-brids are unwilling slaves of the reptilians from birth, and are being forced to engage in 'psychic' -- and other -- attacks against humanity, etc. although there is apparently a growing "resistence" in their ranks. Given a chance the majority of the Hubrids and Nordics who are slaves of the Reptilians will rebel.

Some years ago I came across a reference to a "war" taking place as early as the 1940's within vast cavern systems below the Salt Flats in Utah. This apparently involved an invasion of human territories within "Dreamland" by a joint force of human sorcerers working with reptilian hominoids. This underground "Cult of the Serpent" had apparently re-taken possession of the ancient subterranean systems that the antediluvian Atlanteans had established below the east coast of the United States [New York, Washington D.C, Boston, etc.], and then had reportedly invaded the Dreamland system itself. It is possible that these black magicians were controlled by the Reptilioids and the Draconian Infiltrators, infiltrators like those "chameleons" that have been seen at the surface of the DOUGWAY military installation of Utah, a facility which sits atop the Bonneville Salt Flats. It is also alleged that in the late 1930's or early 1940's Reptilian forces began moving their centers of operation from Central and South America and into the underground systems of the Southwest -- namely Mt. Archuleta/Dulce. The Dulce facility was apparently constructed originally [the lower levels, that is] by humanoids, who were later supplanted by the reptilian grays over a period of time, until the mid 1940's when the U.S. government gained the ability to track UFO flight paths and discovered the massive underground installations below the Dulce area. In order to remain hidden from the human public at large the Grays opted to make a "treaty" with this hybrid [U.S. & Secret] Government to buy time for them to take control of the minds of the human agents. They allowed the CIA to possess a few of the upper levels and expand them, but the base workers literally "lost their minds" to the Alien controllers via implantation. Below level-7 there were ancient tunnels that led to still deeper cavern systems -- these the Reptilians retained for their own purposes. It is said that some of the returning extraterrestrial "Grays" joined up with the taller native subterranean Reptilioids operating deep below the Four Corners region, these taller reptilians having given the Grays access to the base network. These revelations, which appeared in THE DULCE PAPERS and several other sources, merely confirmed my previous suspicions that my "underground dreams" may have been more than mere fantasy. Also I realized that I was indeed an implantee, and learned something that I must share with others who have likewise been implanted. Through the process of Divine Grace [connecting to the Life-Source of All], it is possible to use the telepathic implants by which an abductee's mind is influenced or "controlled" by the Reptilian collective, and turn it back in their face, using it as a weapon against them. The Reptilians are taking a chance by connecting humans into their collective via the implants, and I've found that it is possible to turn things around by using the implants to probe their darkest secrets, intimidate them, possibly communicate with the hybrids, and virtually raise all kinds of hell with the alien collective mind... PROVIDING all this is done under the direction of Divine Grace. Even with Divine Grace, these psychic "mind wars" become extremely painful at times, especially when fighting alone. In short however, since the reptilians "invaded my space" so-to-speak, I with all justification have invaded theirs!!!

Also, other confirmations of my "impressions" began appearing. A friend of mine who lives in central Utah, yet who I will not name, told me of an abduction that he had as a child (he and his sister often met the grays in the basement of their home, but retained no memory of what happened next). He told of having flashes wherein he saw himself in a disk flying over the Grand Canyon, and traveling through a vast cavern with an ancient city at one end and an "elevator" that ran up one wall, disappearing through the roof -- also references to Dulce-like bases, hybrids and other memories similar to my own. I personally was drawing "plans" for an underground base below the 4-corners long before I had ever heard about Dulce.

Other reports that came my way include the following:

-- R.W. of Salt Lake stated that he entered a cave up on the bench of the western Rockies northeast of Salt Lake several years ago with a friend. Deep inside they saw an orange-colored reptilian humanoid coming around a rock. They left in a hurry in absolute terror and never returned.

-- Another young man, R.D., busted into a tunnel near the Crossroads Mall in downtown Salt Lake after pulling a locked manhole cover up with a chain tied to his truck, prompted by rumors of reptilians stalking tunnels under Salt Lake, reports that the activity under Salt Lake City is tied-in with the Groom Lake scenario, and stories of people who had disappeared after entering the tunnel labyrinths. Things he saw in the 3rd sub-basement level and below, during this and other explorations, included: a long tunnel with an ancient wooden door at the end; a room from which a greenish luminescent glow emerged; men dressed in suits carrying Uzi machine guns off in the distance who were walking through a large chamber; an apparently "bottomless" pit; and a large tunnel "big enough to drive truck through" that was strung with lights and led southwest [in the direction of Little Cottonwood Canyon and Granite Mountain]. In this large tunnel he saw unusual tracks in the dust made by some kind of THREE-TOED bipedal creature [a reptilian?]. Other stories connected with the CROSSROADS area: One man who worked in the tunnels was startled when he touched a tunnel wall and his arm went THROUGH the wall. Some time later he tried it again in the same spot and the wall was SOLID; a Spanish woman who worked nights on a cleaning crew in the Crossroads Mall quit her job after [what she could only describe as] a "demon" came around a corner, hobbled up to her, snarled viciously and went past her down the hall.

A woman by the name of Barbara who worked as a hair stylist in Dougway, UT., stated that reptilians passing themselves off as human beings had infiltrated the adjacent Dougway base, which is a MAJOR biological-chemical warfare center. She saw one of the BASE COMMANDERS transform temporarily before her eyes into a reptilian-like entity. These "chameleons" have also been seen working in the surface installations of the underground bases near Dulce, N.M.; Groom Lake, NV; Deep Springs, CA; and the Madigan facility south of Seattle. Sources have indicated that much of the Groom Lake alien-interaction activity has been extended into the Dougway underground and similar underground structures below Idaho. There are also reports of "androids" that have infiltrated the Dougway base as well. The EG&G corporation, which does much of the hiring for the Nevada Test Site, is also very active in the Military bases near Dougway Proving Grounds.

-- I.D. of Salt Lake City stated that years ago she had heard that workers excavating basements below the Trolley Square Mall, just southeast of Crossroads, had broken into strange "catacombs" underground.

(Note from the editor - March 2019): When the 'Dragonslayer' newsletters first came out, the Crossroads mall was a thriving center of commerce in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah. Since then it was bought out by the 'Mormon' church -- gee, I wonder WHY -- and was demolished and rebuilt as the Mormon-owned "City Creek Center" mall, and opened in 2012... a few years following the closure of the Crossroads mall)

-- K.S. of Salt Lake City reported an abduction near the Sugarhouse Mall district, southeast of Trolley Square, during which she recalls meeting with a man and a short "gray" in a huge underground room, in which she saw several other people -- possibly abductees. She remembers, even in her partially-conscious state, becoming angry at the fact that this guy was giving her all kinds of instructions and recalls asking him who the hell he thought he was by ordering her around like that... She said the man "may" have been human, but she was not sure. K.S. was also told by another friend of an abduction that had occurred to him near this same Mall, during which the aliens removed and later re-attached one of his legs. Other friends of hers had told her of encountering para-humans [MIB types] up in the mountain canyons east of Salt Lake City, including the Parley's Canyon area... these encounters taking place in mountainous regions where large underground caverns or bases were supposed to exist. There have also been reported encounters with Nordic-like beings as well as with Reptilians in the canyons east of Salt Lake. In one case the Nordics politely asked one man via a telepathic beam from a cigar-shaped craft -- fully visible to him and hovering above Emigration Canyon -- if he would like to come with them... however the man refused the offer. Another man by the name of "Dan" was forcibly abducted by tall green-skinned Reptilians with large black eyes in City Creek Canyon to the north [these canyons run from north to south beginning with City Creek, Emigration, Parleys, Big Cottonwood and Little Cottonwood]. This indicates to me that there is a conflict of sorts in this area, and K.S. did in fact tellttonwood and Little Cottonwood]. This indicates to me that there is a conflict of sorts in this area, and K.S. did in fact tellttonwood and Little Cottonwood]. This indicates to me that there is a conflict of sorts in this area, and K.S. did in fact tellttonwood and Little Cottonwood]. This indicates to me that there is a conflict of sorts in this area, and K.S. did in fact tellttonwood and Little Cottonwood]. This indicates to me that there is a conflict of sorts in this area, and K.S. did in fact tellmovie, and the affected ship would not drop, but seem to lose maneuvering control and drift away. When she awakened from the "dream" she said there were strange bruises on her legs that were not there when she went to sleep.

-- Much alien activity has been reported as being located below Twin Peaks, SE of Salt Lake City. On the north slope of the Peaks is Big Cottonwood Canyon. Reports suggest a huge base under the canyon was once controlled by "Blondes" tied-in with the Mt. Shasta system, but that this 'may' have since been infiltrated by Grays, mind-controlled human collaborators from the CIA etc., and their counterparts in the "Underground Empire". Officially the Telosians are supposed to be at odds with the Grays. The 'crown' princess of Telos, Sharula, was reportedly told by her father and Telosian leader Adama -- who is also the spiritual leader of the Melchizedek lodge there -- that the Grays are being asked to leave the planet, BY FORCE is necessary. The last Gray stronghold that is to be taken care of is the one below Los Alamos, N.M., which is the eastern segment of the Dulce Hub or Terminal which branches out for hundreds of miles in all directions [like the Panamint/Death-Valley Base-Net, the underground Archuleta base is said to be approximately the size of Manhattan -- this is not including the "extension" bases tied-in to Dulce, like Los Alamos, etc.]. If there are still "Telosians" below the Twin Peaks area who are working WITH the Grays, then they are doing so in direct opposition to official Telosian policy. On the south side of Twin Peaks is Little Cottonwood Canyon, the site of GRANITE MOUNTAIN. Within this mountain the Mormon {L.D.S.) Church maintains an large underground Storage Vault where information on every subject is gathered from all over the world and stored after being converted to microfilm [and now computers]. One can draw a rough line beginning at Crossroads Plaza and leading southeast through Trolley Square and Sugarhouse Malls and on to Granite Mountain - in Little Cottonwood Canyon, near the mouth of which this writer lived [for ten years] as a child.

Now, before relating the following account, let me say something about the Mormon Church system, within which this writer was raised... This church was created by a man named Joseph Smith, however the REAL power behind its growth was John C. Bennett, who was apparently one of many Scottish Rite agents assigned to infiltrate the various religious movements of the world. If one does a thorough study of the Masonic connections to major denominations they may discover some surprising facts (for instance Norman Vincent Peale was a 33rd degree mason, as were the founders of the Jehovah's Witnesses, Theosophy, Scientology, Unitarianism, and OTHER quasi-Christian CULTS). The Scottish Rite, incidentally, was created out of the RITE OF PERFECTION by Jesuit-Masons at the Parisian college of Clermont. Dr. John Coleman states that 13 Maltese Jesuits, 13 Wicca Masons and 13 Black Nobility members make up the 39 members of the Bildeberger group, ultimately controlled by the BAVARIAN Illuminati (which was CREATED BY the Jesuit Priest Adam Weishaupt) through the Scottish Rite.

The Master Mason John C. Bennett convinced Smith

to sell out to the Masonic lodge (Scottish Rite) and Bennett worked to establish an "Order of the Illuminati" within Mormonism, according to Klaus Hansen's book "QUEST FOR EMPIRE". Mormonism became a hybrid religion between Christianity (worship of the "Lamb") and gnostic Scottish Rite Masonry (worship of the "Serpent"). Even today the Mormon masses in Utah believe that they are "Christians", and even the majority of the "Council of 12" -- unknown to most of its membership -- are actually controlled by the Scottish Rite "Council of 50" behind the scenes. These "Insiders" allow only the oldest members of the outer "Council of 12" to become President of the Church. Apparently the older these council members are the less likely they will be to discern what is going on behind the scenes, to make waves or make changes, or challenge the hidden Scottish Rite infiltrators and controllers. Former president Ezra Taft Benton, who supported Gary Allen's expose's of the Rockefellers, came very close to upsetting the whole control system. One can see a similar power-play being carried out in the Vatican. For instance Pope John Paul I sought to make some heavy-duty changes in the Catholic system, but the "powers that would be" had different ideas. After this Pope was assassinated in true Scottish Rite fashion only 33 days into his term, a former Nazi sympathizer who had earlier in life sold cyanide/Zyklon-B gas to the Nazis for their gas chambers, was elected Pontiff... this new Emperor of the "Holy Roman Empire" was the man who changed his name to "John Paul II". The Scottish Rite has the power to control the media and therefore has the influence to support or tear-down a religion through public opinion. In their desire to be "friends of the world" and escape criticism, many main-line religions must sell-out to the Masons or risk "persecution". Most Mormons outwardly profess their hatred of "secret combinations", not realizing that they -- along with most other mainline denominations throughout the world which make up the "World Council of Churches" -- have fallen victim to that very force. They do not realize that they are one of the many "controlled" religions that the Illuminati plans to keep in check so that they do not interfere with the "New World Order". In recent years various members of the over 500 fundamental Mormon splinter-groups and several mainline Mormons began warning other members about the dangers of the "New World Order", that is until those in the seat of power in the Mormon Church were given instructions to rebuke these Patriots as being out of line with Church policy. This is unusual, when we consider former U.S. Secretary of Agriculture and former Mormon president Ezra Taft Benson's hearty ENDORSEMENT of Gary Allen's book NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY. If Mainline members kept up with their anti New World Order activities, the high council warned, they could be excommunicated and their 'salvation' would be on the line. This is the same kind of duplicity that was practiced by the Polygamists and White Supremists of early Mormonism, that is until the Mormon "god" was forced to bow down to the U.S. government's demands and outlaw Polygamy and allow Blacks to hold the "Priesthood". Once a requirement for salvation, Polygamy now can be the cause of ones damnation in this "church". Irregardless of this there are literally thousands of fundamentalists throughout Utah WHO PRACTICE ILLEGAL POLYGAMY WITH THE FULL KNOWLEDGE OF UTAH LAW ENFORCEMENT, who refuse to arrest or prosecute them in DEFIANCE of United States Federal Laws!!! Is there something wrong with this picture?

Ideologies cannot be controlled -- this is why the Pentecostals who stress ideological lifestyle over organizational structure are frustrating the One Worlders, because they are difficult to infiltrate and control. The more STRUCTURED a religious SYSTEM is, the easier it is to infiltrate and control... these controllers do not believe in Christianity nor even Mormonism or any of the other religions, but are actually Serpent Worshippers and collaborate with and worship the Serpent Race (Reptiloids, Grays, etc.). They are also in it for personal profit, at the expense of the manipulated masses. If you don't believe that the Scottish Rite is a gnostic (serpent) cult, just take a look at the designs inside the HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE, the Scottish Rite Headquarters in Washington D.C. that sits atop the PENTAGRAM-LIKE street layout of the capitol city.

It should be stressed that the Mormon Church IS ONLY ONE OF MANY religious organizations around the world that the Scottish Rite (Wicca-Mason) branch of the Illuminati has either created or infiltrated, or turned into a hybrid Christian-Masonic structure. I only single this denomination out because of my own personal and utterly disillusioning involvement with this religious system. Many [so-called] Protestant denominations such as the Methodists, Episcopalians, and Southern Baptists have fallen under the control of the Scottish Rite as well, in that a large percentage of their congregations have duel membership in the Masonic Lodge and within their denominational Church organizations.

With this introduction, I will now quote the following revelation from a Utah researcher who wishes to be identified only as J.R.:

"...You most likely have heard of the Mormon Church, LDS, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, here in Utah, of which they control the total state in all fields and phases of human endeavors. They have built temples in 100 countries. The missionaries in all these countries, including the USA, work with the CIA.

"As the missionaries can get into countries where the CIA cannot, they collect information on the people and everything of any and all nature, the countries' government and all their activities. All this world-wide information is shared with the CIA and it is fed into three of the largest computers in the world, church-owned, here in Salt Lake City (these reportedly fill the entire top 2 or 3 floor-levels of the "Church Office Building" in Salt Lake City - A.W.). This church is one of the most powerful and rich organizations in the world today. It has one of the largest and secret police force[s] in the world. I have collected this kind of information for 45 years.

"The above is not all they are into. A high official of this church was recently kicked out of the church as he got too snoopy and asked too many questions. He came to me a few months ago and told me what happened. He said that HIS LIFE HAD BEEN THREATENED if he told anyone of what he had found out. So he told me that if anything happened to him, to release the information he gave me. THIS INFORMATION CONCERNS A GIANT CAVERN BENEATH SALT LAKE CITY AND THE WASATCH MOUNTAIN RANGE. IT GOES NORTH TO IDAHO AND SOUTH CLEAR DOWN PAST THE ARIZONA LINE, WITH OFFSHOOTS WEST INTO NEVADA AND EAST INTO COLORADO.

"This cavern has been common knowledge for over 120 years. Many cases over the years [have] appeared in the newspapers of people and groups of people going into the cavern, but never coming out. Several [who] did find their way out, were hopelessly insane. At least that's what the newspaper said about them.

"At present the Archaeological Dept. of Utah are down in southeastern Utah looking for a certain entrance into this cavern, that [a] fellow by the name of John Brewer of Manti, Utah, discovered around 30 years ago (about 1960 - A.W.). He brought out of the cavern quite a few ancient plates of an unknown language. Some of the plates were gold, some silver, brass, copper and clay. He also saw many strange things he won't talk about, such as what he thought were weapons of crystal. His son was TORTURED AND KILLED by some unknown person or persons trying to force the secrets out of him. The church wanted the plates in the worst way -- they still do.

"The information I was given by this former member of the Church IS VERY CLOSE TO BEING THE SAME AS [the information that has surfaced concerning] DULCE, NEW MEXICO. Like he told me, "After all, where on earth would be a better contact point for aliens than Utah, with thousands of miles of deserts and places not even on the present day maps. Plus a large and powerful organization with hospitals, schools and universities where aliens could undergo physical changes, [being] educated in our languages and customs, using research labs, some of the best in the United States. A lot of GENETIC EXPERIMENTS AND RESEARCH is also going on here in different laboratories (Note: One source has stated that a Mr. "Fleisher", now deceased, took part in a training mission to acclimate humanoid aliens to human society in a fashion similar to that which was performed by the well-known contactee Howard Menger. This project was initiated in Salt Lake City with nearly 200 alien personnel, and has since spread to Arizona and other parts of the world. One man [name withheld] who studied at the Salt Lake Technical College, stated that a fellow student confided to him that he was actually from an underground city, and was working here on the surface. There have also been other rumors of individuals living in this city who were from underground communities... but whether these arrived on the surface by choice or were driven to the surface by the Reptiloid infestation of the North American substructure, is uncertain. Both scenarios may exist. There are nevertheless suggestions that all three groups -- from the [United] Federation, the [Draconian] Empire, and the [Bavarian] Collaborate -- are active in this part of the country - A.W.).

"THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN AND ADULTS HAVE VANISHED WITHOUT A TRACE OF MOST OF THEM, HERE IN UTAH. The fellow who is giving me this information also mentioned that for years now, the Church has been working on a vault-like repository in the mountains behind Salt Lake [East], PART OF THE UPPER CAVERN, to put all records, secret documents, and other valuables for safe keeping (This is the aforementioned Vault in Granite Mountain, up on the slope of Little Cottonwood Canyon - A.W.). He said for over a period of time he helped on this detail. SEVERAL TIMES HE SAID HE SPOTTED SEVERAL SMALL HUMANOIDS WITH EXTRA-LARGE EYES WATCHING THEM FROM A DISTANCE.

"He said THERE WAS A LOT OF BUILDING GOING ON IN THE LOWER PORTION OF THE CAVERN. He heard motors, dynamos, the high whine of generators and voices. All this he said has been going on for over 15 years that he knew of (or previous to 1975 - A.W.). He said his curiosity got the best of him one day, he slipped away from the work gang he was in and went down to a lower part of the cavern. He came to some BUILDINGS WITH LOTS OF ROOMS. THERE WAS A LOT OF BUILDING AND OTHER ACTIVITY GOING ON. THERE WERE MANY MEN AND WOMEN WORKING ON WORK BENCHES WITH COMPUTERS, AND BUILDING ELECTRONIC UNITS OF SOME KIND. AMONG THESE WORKERS WERE MORE OF THESE SMALL HUMANOIDS WITH BIG BLACK EYES. When he started back, two security officers caught him and escorted him back to the repository vault, where they reported his actions and wanderings into the off-limits area, to his superiors. They in turn put him on a truck and sent him back to town. He was warned to keep his mouth shut about what he saw. They told him what was going on down there was a U.S. government operation and was TOP SECRET (Note: actually it was a CIA operation. The CIA has an inner-core who work for Bavarian Intelligence and an outer-core who are led to believe that they are working for the best interests of American Intelligence, and in fact former CIA agent Gunther Russbacher has stated that there are two factions that are presently fighting for control of the CIA itself -- suggesting that the outer core of Patriots who have fought Communism in the past are now waking up to the fact that the\par inner core of the CIA is actually being run by [National] SOCIALISTS. In this case the statement that this activity -- taking place within the massive cavern-systems below the Wasatch Front of the Western Rockies -- is a "U.S. Government Operation" would only be half-true. It should also be known that there is a "Melchizedek" order which is active within the Mormon Church, the Masonic Lodge and the Mt. Shasta Colony, all three of which apparently have some connection with the Utah underground. This does not mean that all "Melchizedeks" are presently collaborating with the Reptilian Grays - A.W.).

"If he talked about [what was going on underground] to any one, he would get 20 years in a federal prison or WORSE. He kept asking questions to different members he thought were friends. Someone reported him. In turn he was apostated from the Church, WITH A DEATH THREAT!

"This is the 3rd time in the last 20 years I have heard about this activity, from different friends of mine who are members of this church. I didn't pay too much attention to it until I recieved the info [on] Dulce, New Mexico... I think its high time to PUT THIS INFO OUT TO THE PUBLIC. Most people are so BRAINWASHED by the church here, and the television, that most people won't believe any of it anyway. But I believe there are people in this land of ours who will believe. Those are the ones who need all the information of this nature they can recieve. At least they will be aware of the existence of the situation and won't be so easily trapped. They in turn can help others... Sincerely, J.R."

From my own past experience with this neo-Masonic religious institution, I can say for a fact that 99 percent of all "Mormons" are consciously unaware of the reality that some of the innermost 1-percent or less who control the political-spiritual-economic aspects of the system have "sold out" to the CIA, possibly motivated by a false sense of "patriotism" or possibly for even more sinister reasons. They maintain the illusion or "cover" for the CIA's actions within this MAJOR JOINT INTERACTION complex deep below their underground GRANITE MOUNTAIN STORAGE VAULT (which interconnects the other major joint-interaction facilities below Nevada, Idaho, Colorado and Arizona, etc.).

Of course much of the CIA has been "taken over" by the aliens either mentally and/or physically via supplantation. This is also true with other controlled or infiltrated human 'intelligence' factions from native suberranean cultures -- such as the CIA's counterpart operating within the Telosian-Aghartian governments -- who are working with the REPTILIOIDS, the GRAYS and the CIA. As on the surface, this underground "Illuminati" seeks to control the minds of the human masses below [motivated by the Draconians themselves], rather than allow themselves to be the "representatives" of the citizens they control. Just as the surfaraconians themselves], rather than allow themselves to be the "representatives" of the citizens they control. Just as the surfaraconians themselves], rather than allow themselves to be the "representatives" of the citizens they control. Just as the surfaraconians themselves], rather than allow themselves to be the "representatives" of the citizens they control. Just as the raconraconians themselves], rather than allow themselves to be the "representatives" of the citizens they control. Just as the surfaI prefer to call them the "Friendlies" because their activities remind me of the followers of "Edgar Friendly", the leader of the resistance in the UNDERGROUND KINGDOM depicted in the movie "Demolition Man". Richard Shaver and other writers in AMAZING STORIES magazine, wrote years ago of an underground warfare taking place between the TEROS [a friendly race of freedom-loving humans who were/are apparently working with the sasquatch, friendly cyborgs-androids, human giants, etc.], and the DEROS, [an evil collaborating "serpent cult" of degenerate human mutants, unfriendly androids, reptiloids and grays bent on absolute control of the cavern world and eventually the world above].

Now concerning the massive cavern system described by "J.R." -- being that the term DREAMLAND has been given to the cavern systems below the Four Corners as well as to those below Nevada, I believe that it is fair to assume that this massive underground system connecting the two can also be given the same appellation.

It is possible that war has raged through the DREAMLAND complex [spanning Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Colorado, Arizona, etc.,] for centuries. Apache-Hopi activist Robert Morningsky has stated that his ancestors were driven to the surface by the "Two Hearts" or the "Children of the Lizard" who invaded their underground kingdom and forced them to take refuge in the outer world. Another Hopi legend states that some of their numbers in that ancient time turned to practicing sorcery [and if we combine this legend with Morningsky's statements, we can assume that these sorcerers also betrayed the rest of the Hopi to the Serpent Race in exchange for promises of occult power, etc.]. It appears that some things never change. This warfare seems to compare with the Dero - Tero conflicts referred to by Richard Shaver. Is it possible that the DULCE WARS [which began in 1979 after human scientists discovered thousands of abductees who were being held in cages and in cold storage deep below Dulce] and the GROOM wars [which began around the same time after a human security guard was killed when he challenged an alien dictate that human security personnel could not enter alien-controlled sections below Nevada with loaded weapons] were actually more outward manifestations of a "deeper" conflict that has raged through the centuries, one that we might refer to as the DREAMLAND Wars?

At this point we will relay some other references which give evidence towards the existence of the massive "Dreamland" cavern which stretches under at least 5 western states. We begin with reports of caverns under the central nexus area, followed by it norther, eastern, southern and western extensions...

CENTRAL NEXUS -- The following letter appeared in the July, 1964 issue of 'SEARCH' Magazine, and was written by a Mr. Ervin M. Scott of (at that time) 536 12th St., Denver, Colorado. Mr. Scott's references to the origin of "dreams" is interesting. There are theories that the brain acts like a biological electrochemical "radio" transceiver at some levels. It is a proven fact that the brain sends very subtle neuro-electrical transmissions into the atmosphere, and that these "brain waves" can be recorded by electroencephelograph machines. An even more daring theory is that neurons are part of a universal 'psionic field' or 'universal memory bank' integrated within the gravity fields which can interact and affect other particles-waves in the Unified Field, and that the brain has the ability to "focus" these waves as a transmitter or a receiver. Of course the success of long-range communication between minds is minimal when compared with radio waves, because of the thick morass of 'psychic static' that must be penetrated and the minimal energy output. Others claim that certain "alien" cultures have machines that are capable of electronically magnifying and focusing thought waves for transmitting or receiving. As for "dreams", some believe that they take place when the mind tunes-in to "deeper" mental states wherein the mind is able to tap-in to the thought-forms of a "collective unconscious", explaining the "universal dream symbolism" which has been reported by psychologists. One 'symbolic' explanation that has been used to explain this process is that of islands that appear to be separate and distinct when seen above water [symbolic of individual conscious minds], yet the "deeper" one goes below the "surface" the more they connect with other islands at the underlying levels [symbolic of the increasing levels of the collective unconscious mind(s)]. Mr. Scott describes his unusual experiences as follows:

"Dear Ray: ...Congratulations on another excellent issue of 'SEARCH' Magazine.

"I was especially interested in your article, 'Faces in Your Dreams.'

"Having had many strange, puzzling dreams over the last few years, I have become quite interested in any clues that might point towards origin and cause of dreams. I recognize a good many as probably having the subconscious as the source. However, there is an occasional dream, that is so vivid and unusual that it causes one to wonder.

"I have no connection one way or the other, on the Shaver Mystery, but, I will briefly describe [some] dreams that are interesting in relation to that subject.

"On Nov. 30, 1963 while in a light sleep I heard a woman's voice coming as if from a distance and she spoke urgently as follows: 'This is from a stolen farm beneath the Salt Lake flats in Utah. (I was living in Wichita, Kansas at the time.) There\par was a woman abducted almost three weeks ago in Boston, Mass. and taken underground. Reports indicate that an abbey in North section of the city is being used and that cellars underneath the abbey connect with tunnels leading up from caverns below. This is a continuation of the Evil one's War against Mankind.'

"Another voice broke in, 'Don't believe her. Don't you see this is a lie - a trick? (Then, warningly) Keep quiet about this.'

"I have never been in Utah nor have had no thoughts about or desire to visit, so if this was caused by subconscious, it is

certainly puzzling, as is the reference to 'a stolen farm'..."

This letter suggests that a conflict of sorts has been and is taking place in cavernous levels below Utah, as in other states. One source in New Mexico who had worked at the surface installation near Dulce, stated that a certain chemical was secretly (via certain 'doctors' tied-in with the aliens) being injected into individuals via sulfa drugs. The chemical in turn lodges in the bone-structure of the victim, and reportedly makes their bodies extremely sensitive to ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) radio waves, which can be 'tuned in' to the deep encephalographic wave bands of the human brain. These transmissions could apparently be used to subliminally control or at least influence human minds from a distance.

Perhaps some individuals, such as the writer of the letter just quoted, are naturally sensitive to these extremely low frequency waves, in that their brains to some extent act electro-chemical biological ELF radio receivers. Certain accounts suggest that various subterranean groups utilize ELF radio transceivers capable of penetrating many miles of solid rock. Richard Shevers referred to these psi transcievers as the "Telaug Mech".

NORTHERN EXTENSION -- The following account involves a subterranean excavation in southern Idaho. The letter quoted below was submitted by a George Haycock of Burley, Idaho, and appeared in the Oct. 1947 issue of 'AMAZING STORIES' science fiction/science fact magazine, pp. 174-175:

"Sirs... Perhaps I have delayed over-long to send you my slight contribution to the master code. Why? I was still afraid there might be some slip that would put me in a bad spot. I am a druggist in this town and any trace of nut's talk would ruin my job. I have been waiting for the issue which just hit the newsstand and agree with you completely.

"There is in this area an artifact which seems to prove all you have printed about the cavern dwellers. First I want to ask a question. How are the caverns ventilated? There is no vegetation to purify the air in caves (ie. small caverns, that is - Branton). Therefore there must be some connection with the surface. I know where one of the air shafts reach the surface.

"My grandfather was raised with the Indians in this section of the country and has told me of the stories he heard when he was a child. The Indians describe the wind cave as it is called around here as the home of the devils who come forth in the dead of the night to steal their women and food. No Indian will venture within the area inside of five miles of the cave.

"Perhaps a description of the inside will make my meaning more clear. The entrance is just a hole in the rocks, but after getting inside you come into a four-square tunnel about three and one half feet square with a six-inch gutter along the west side, about 10 inches deep. The tunnel is intact for about 100 yards and then opens into what looks like it might have been at one time a completely ROUND or half-round passageway which now looks like the solid lava which it goes through has been chipped and crumbled by extreme heat. It is possible to travel for about half a mile inside before the tunnel becomes obstructed too much for a man to get through.

"I have been trying to get someone who would help me clear this obstruction enough to get through and several have agreed but when we get there and start to work they soon give up and want to get out. Another funny thing is that every time I go back the work done before does not show, yet there is not evidence of fresh falls of rock from the ceiling. At this point the feeling that you're in mortal danger becomes almost overpowering, after battling this feeling for an hour I feel as weak as if I had been sick for weeks and I have made this attempt many times.

"The opening has been dynamited at least four times that I know of. Supposedly to kill rattlesnakes, yet I have never seen one either in the mouth of the cave or inside.

"In fact my experience with snakes leads me to believe they would never brave the cold blast that comes out.

"Still the feeling of distrust and fear clings and none of the natives will consider exploring this artifact which could be made the biggest tourist attraction in this part of the state -- if people were just not afraid to go down in there.

"This covers the known facts about this cave: yet since I can remember I have dreamed, thought and considered many of the things Shaver talks about in his stories, mostly those pertaining to mind control...

"Please ignore the mistakes and misspelled words in this letter. Ordinarily I am a good typist and a good speller, but when I try to put these things on paper I cannot hit the key I want to.

"Please notice that the mistakes and misspelled words (these were eliminated by A.S. editor Ray Palmer before publication - Branton) are mostly where I try to describe the caves and conditions inside them. These happen even when I try to watch every stroke I make. I have recopied this letter three times trying to eliminate the errors and still they crop up in the same sections if not in the same words.

"I am willing to discuss what I know with any one who won't believe I am crazy, and would like to find someone who has the intestinal fortitude to help me clear the obstruction to the major cavern with which it connects which I know extends to the depth of 30,000 feet because it has been drilled into and that much cable let out without hitting anything to drill in and I will show anyone who is interested the entire set up.

"My grandfather is now dead unfortunately so he cannot verify the Indian stories mentioned, but if Mr. (L. Tayler - Branton) Hansen is as familiar with Indian legends as he claims and really desires the truth have him work with the Shoshones and the Blackfeet. Consider their tales of the demons who work this countryside...

"Write me if you're interested in these legends and any knowledge I have is yours.

"George Haycock., c/o Thriftway Drug., Main and Overland., Burley, Idaho..."

Raymond Palmer's editorial reply to this letter was as follows:

"We're sure that members of the CHMBS (Cave Hunters Mutual Benefit Society) will contact you, and they won't consider\par you crazy. We hope you can tell them more about this cave, and show it to them. As for the depth of 30,000 feet, letting a cable, or string, down that depth tells nothing, because it might be going down only a few hundred feet, then simply coiling up on the floor, as the weight of the string would make it impossible for you to tell when it had hit the floor... -- Ed."

This account as given by Mr. Haycock is strange to say the least, however it may contain a significant piece of the puzzle whereas the overall subterranean scenario is concerned.

Two more postscripts to the George Haycock -- Burley, Idaho account have surfaced. The first came from a man by the name of Frank W. Haigler, and a Sgt. Brentlinger who was at the time stationed at Hill Air Force Base near Salt Lake City, Utah. Mr. Haigler had told of his own investigations in connection with Mr. Haycock's letter in 'AMAZING STORIES'. This letter of confirmation, which appeared in the Jan. 1948 (Vol. 22, No. 1) issue, stated:

"Sirs... If you file your correspondence, you will find a letter there from this writer which was written in the early part of this year, advising you of reading my first AMAZING STORIES magazine and of my interest in the mystery of the caves, especially the articles by Mr. Shaver. I haven't missed a copy of A. S. since then and interest in the mystery of the caves has grown until you may class me as an unofficial member of the CHMBS. In fact, the purpose of this letter is to inform you of a recent expedition to one of the caves for an investigation.

"For you and those interested in the 'air shaft' near Burley, Idaho, reported by Mr. George Haycock, whose letter was published in the October issue of AMAZING STORIES, this is to verify the truth of this cave.

"M/Sgt. Brentlinger (a Shaver fan), stationed at Hill Field, Utah, and myself made a trip to Burley over the weekend of the 17th of August to ascertain the authenticity of both Mr. Haycock and the cave. We had no trouble locating this gentleman and after explaining the purpose of our mission he quite readily agreed to show us to the cave and to guide us through, providing it was still possible to enter. The entrance had been blasted since he was last in the cave, he explained.

"We drove about six miles west of town, then turned off the highway onto a little road leading through the desert sagebrush. Oddly enough, this road was well worn and seemed to be much used although there is no apparent reason for so much traffic. We failed to see any other cars either on the way in or out.

"Even though he had been in the cave many times and to the entrance as recently as three days prior to this trip, Mr. Haycock, strangely, had difficulty in locating the spot and we stopped twice to look before we finally found it about a mile from the highway (although he does not mention how close the opening was to the smaller road they were on which branched OFF the Highway. I would also 'assume' that when they 'turned off' the highway, they turned north!?! - Branton).

"The entrance was located in the center of a shallow circular depression. The surrounding terrain was nothing but sand and sagebrush but jammed in around the opening were several large boulders. We found there was still a small hole running down through the boulders and Mr. Haycock thought it still possible for us to make entrance. With some violent maneuvering we did manage to squeeze through and we followed Mr. Haycock to the floor of the cavern. Then, crawling, kneeling and sometimes walking, we were led back through the cave for approximately one-quarter of a mile.

"The cavern was cut through what appeared to be lava rock. Walls and ceiling are badly fallen-in in many places but there is enough intact yet to give the general appearance that the cave was at one time square. In certain spots the walls and ceiling are perfectly flat. Then, too, we noticed one small chamber to one side of the main passage that is square-cut except for one end which is cupped out.

"There are numerous small passages leading off to the side of the main path, which Mr. Haycock said lead to dead ends, IN the ones he has explored.

"After seeing enough to convince us of the truth of Mr. Haycock's story, it was decided to turn back and not to continue inward to the impassable obstruction Mr. Haycock mentioned in his letter. To have gone that far more equipment would have been required. We had nothing but two flashlights, both being used continuously. Where we turned back is approximately half-way to the obstruction.

"We failed to feel or hear the icy wind that is said to blow from the shaft most of the time. However, Mr. Haycock explained that it did become quiet occasionally, as we found it that day.

"At present another trip is planned to the cave. This time there will be seven or eight of us and we plan to take the proper equipment and enough provisions to do some serious work at clearing away the obstruction. It is desired by all to learn what, if anything, might lie further on beyond this obstruction. But, if there is nothing but more cave it will at least be an interesting adventure that will be enjoyed and remembered by all!

"Now for the information on two other caves this writer knows of which might merit investigation. The first is in the Smoky mountains of North Carolina in the Nantahalie(?) Gorge. It is called 'The Blowing Springs' and is easily reached from the highway. The cave has an icy blast of air and a cold stream flowing from it continuously, from which it got its name. It is not known by the writer whether anyone has ever entered the cave or if this is possible, but there are many that have been to the entrance to look in.

"The second is called 'The Devil's Well' and is located in the 'Hole-In-Ground' near Pine City, Washington. The cave is very round and approximately five feet in diameter. People are known to be afraid to enter the cave due to the rumor that it is a rattlesnake den. It would be interesting to learn if there is any truth to the rattlesnakes and why it is named 'The Devil's Well,' and by whom!."

"-- Frank W. Haigler., Box 18, Apt. F-12., Sahara Valley, Utah."

Another postscript to this account appeared in the form of an article which was written by one 'Galahadian' for the ESOTERIC WORLD NEWS in the mid-1980's. 'Galahadian' allegedly knew Mr. Haycock years ago, and revealed that his story had a sad and tragic ending. Haycock, it seemed, had received an unmarked letter or package in his mailbox one day with a message warning him to cease and desist in his investigations of the tunnel. Mr. Haycock had apparently ignored the warning and continued in his investigations, and according to 'Galahadian' a short while afterwards he was found strangled to death in his home. What kind of secret would be so important that it was worth killing a human life in order to hide it? Certainly, this is not the only one who has died mysteriously after investigating underground phenomena. In fact dozens, perhaps hundreds (or more?) have met with the same tragic fate, after getting to close to the "Horrible Truth". It would seem that an inner earth researcher must have major suicidal tendencies if he/she continues in this line of research knowing full well of the dangers (and in the case of yours truly, maybe 'he' just doesn't give a damn -- maybe 'he' is merely the victim of a life-time of alien abduction and brain-rape as suggested earlier, and has reacted with a suicidal vendetta against those who have tried to destroy his life. If you've read the last three issues of T.D.S., you may have asked yourself where my utter contempt for the subterranean grays comes from!?! Well, there you have it! - Branton)

EASTERN EXTENSION - There are several suggestions of cavern phenomena in Colorado. For instance, years ago in his HOLLOW HASSLE newsletter, TAL LeVesque and Mary Davis described an account of a rancher who owned several acres west of Walsenberg, Colorado. He had not only experienced several strange cattle mutilations on his property, but also had dug a well which had broken through to empty space. It was found that the shaft blew and sucked air according to the rise and fall of the tide. This could either be an indication of a connection to a large suberranean body of water, or of something else. The Colorado School of Mines came out to investigate the phenomena, and was very excited. It was suggested that the shaft may have led to the continuation of a tunnel that they had traced from the Gulf of Mexico all the way to Oklahoma!

According to Val Valerian, the area of Creed, Colorado has an especially low gravity field in relation to the surrounding regions, which can be seen by looking at a gravity anomaly map. This is suggestive of vast empty spaces below the area, and tends to confirm other accounts that below Creed there is a major joint-interaction underground facility!

Other joint-interaction or former joint-interaction facilities include the UTE Mountains of southwestern Colorado, within which former Dulce base scientists [dissenters] are being held prisoner according to John Lear and others. Then there are the underground [alternative 002?] cities that can reportedly be entered through a "lodge" in the Umcompaghre Mts. of southern Colorado, not far from the Masonic Park.

SOUTHERN EXTENSION\ulnone -- Researcher Vaughn M. Greene, in a letter which appeared in issue No. 14 of Richard Toronto's SHAVERTRON letter-zine, spoke of a possible 'entrance' to cavern systems near the bottom of the elevator landing within the Hoover dam facility near Las Vegas, which holds back Lake Mead. Several people have reported unusual "alien" encounters near this reservoir. Early construction workers allegedly broke into (and probably re-sealed) large caverns while blasting out the cliffs near the base of the dam. In the lower elevator landing, according to Mr. Greene, there was a "wild tile inlay on the floor, with signs of the zodiac and all sorts of stuff suggesting an entrance." He suggests a possible connection between this and the caverns which the workers reportedly broke into. Could this tie-in with similar accounts given by others that an underground base exists beneath Page, Arizona? This underground facility is believed by different sources to connect the S-4 underground base in Nevada with the Dulce underground base in New Mexico via tube-line. The Glen Canyon -- Lake Powell Hydroelectric dam in Page 'might' provide a power source for such an underground installation, and is the most likely area in or around Page for an 'entrance' (a deep gorge several hundred feet deep leading into the Grand Canyon, a large government facility, a hydroelectric power source, etc.). This is however only supposition. It is said that Navaho dam, by the way, is a major power-source that supplies a considerable percentage of electricity for the upper human-occupied levels of the Dulce Base. This may suggest that other similar bases may at least be partially powered by hydroelectric dams.

Other indications of a southern extension of "Dreamland" are given in the first issue of T.D.S., which deals with the Hopi caves.

WESTERN EXTENSION\ulnone - The following conversation, in relation to the Nevada Military Complex and the 'underground facilities', took place on the "Billy Goodman Happening" - KVEG Radio 840 AM, Las Vegas, Nevada, on November 19, 1989. It was transcribed by a Las Vegas resident.

Billy Goodman had personally planned visits, in collaboration with KNBC Radio in Los Angeles, to observe the 'disks' which are being tested at Groom Lake. Goodman and others claimed to have seen these disks in operation, and back up these claims with video documentation. One such video shows a hovering object making a vertical ascent, stopping in mid-air, then a horizontal traverse, followed by another vertical ascent. Something like this would be impossible for any conventionally known aircraft of the time to duplicate. Billy Goodman, who has since moved to another radio station in Los Angeles, has been very instrumental in getting the information out about the underground base at Site 51. In the following annotated transcript, the caller will be identified as 'C' and Billy Goodman as 'G':

G: Hi! Your on the Billy Goodman Happening on KVEG! Sir, what can I do for you tonight?

C: O.K. Are you ready? Hang on to your seats! Here goes! We are going 3,000 feet underground! O.K. We get to that point, 3,000 feet. We come out into a stainless steel atmosphere... and we come upon people that are ah... construction people... working people, and so forth that are supposed to be in that area. Then we come upon another people who push us into another little room. They tell us: "Do not come out of that area, until your told to." These guys are 6 minute marines, all right? They tell us, "If you do, you are going to get hurt!" OK? So we are construction workers!

G: Where are you working? Where is what you are describing to us.

C: On a certain test site!

G: A certain test site! Which one? You can't reveal which one?

C: We're kinda mixed up! We don't know what the hell is going on. We're making ah... good bucks... and everything has come down on us... and they are hurting us! OK? So we are contractors! We are workers! OK? So there's a person that I called and explained what is happening to me and they told me to call you and tell you! So, that is what I am doing right now! Calling you!

G: You presented it in a very odd way! First of all I didn't know if you were going to be serious or what! Are you saying to me that you are a construction worker and you had to go 3,000 feet under ground? First of all what would you be doing underground? Let me ask you that!

C: We are running lights and power.

G: And who assigned you this job?

C: It's through Reynold's Electronics. I have to say that because I get my pay check from someone else! (Note: Reynold's Electronics is a branch of "E.G. & G." Corporation which DOES IN FACT work with and contract through the Nevada and Utah Test Sites - Branton)

G: They tell you to put these lights underground?

C: Yeh, but there's more to it than that! I'm sortof afraid of expressing. Am I talking to you or what?

G: Yes, you are talking directly to me!

C: OK. You know some of the things that are happening, shouldn't be. It should be made public! The public should know what the hell is going on! And it scares the hell out of me. What is not being brought out you know? For example, can I give you an example? Here's an example! A few weeks back we were inside a certain cavern going through stainless steel halls, going north, and as we move along we are hanging lights. In the rooms are... they're like operating rooms. All of a sudden, off the elevator, our U.S. Marines come out, crash us down off our scaffold, pushing us down, and then into a room. This is taking a hell of a lot out of me to tell you this right now! The bosses come into the room and we're getting debriefed and all this kind of stuff and all of a sudden they are carrying fixed bayonets. Now I fought in Vietnam and I thought these guys were my buddies! Oh, no way! Forget it! These guys are from outer space! These people brought these little characters on gurneys, OK? They had big heads and little bodies and they went into this little room. Then, behind them, these doctors in white coats and stuff! And we was really at ah... we didn't know what the hell was going on! We were shocked to hell! ...I was SCARED man!

G: Well, sure you didn't know what was going on and didn't expect it! I guess them handling you upset you first of all. Being man to man, you thought why should you treat me this way! And that's to be expected. As far as knowing where you are I have no idea.

C: I know where I was! I worked there every day! I keep a log and if someone asks me I know what's going on! I'm telling you man they're not telling us the truth. There is something damn wrong within our government. I only got a glimpse of this scientist on television (i.e. most likely referring to Robert Lazar - Branton), but I know he's not telling much of what he knows. I'm just a worker. A hammer and nail man. This guy's got more brains than I do, and would know more about it than I do. There's something INSIDE they aren't telling us!

G: OK. I understand that! Now what do you want us to do about it?

C: EXPOSE IT!!!

G: I think you've done that yourself, just now! Now you haven't told us your location and I think that's important so we have some idea where this is. I hope you understand at this moment...

C: I work at Mercury, Nevada and I'm the best electrician there. This is between you and me now. I don't want anybody else to know about this!

G: But your on the air Sir!

C: You mean somebody knows about this besides you and me?

G: But you are talking over the radio, Sir! Everybody, all over the West Coast that is listening has just heard you! So you've gotten your word out. Now let's see if anybody else knows about it. Maybe just maybe, we'll get some calls from some of the people that work with you.

C: Wait a minute! You mean somebody else knows about this beside you and me?

G: Now, this is a talk show, you called a talk show. I am over the radio - that's where you called!

C: OH, MY GOD!!!

G: Why, what's wrong with that? You called a talk show!

C: I thought I was just talking to you!

G: Now you said someone told you to call me. Was it someone you work with?

C: Yes.

G: Nobody knows who you are. You haven't said your name or anything! Now, let's see if anyone will back up your story!

C: But I didn't know other people would hear this. Now I'm scared for my life! There's tremendous stuff out there that's being hidden. It's being corrupted inside. It's being stashed away.

G: Well that's what we do here. We are trying to bring the information out, and it's people like yourself who are making that happen. They bring us information all the time! Are you trying to bring the information out yourself because you don't like what's going on?

C: I fear for my life because I've seen what happened. I fear for my life because the government is lying to me.

G: OK. Why do you fear for your life? Have you been threatened?

C: Before you even go down in the pit they threaten you! That is you tell anything of what you saw, you are dead!!!

G: But you're not saying more than what you saw. Is there anything else you want to say before we say thank you for calling?

C: Yes, one other thing. Whenever it gets down to the nitty gritty, it will be clear to the people, that what they are seeing on the news, is true! We've got six little bodies under ground, man!!!

G: Please keep in touch, OK? (end of transcript)\par There you have an over-view of the "Dreamland" system as given by various different sources. If the reader(s) has access to any further information that can be added to the above, I encourage them so send it in. Such information will be vital once the imminant American counter-invasion of Dreamland and its surrounding systems -- those systems controlled by Reptilian forces that is -- begins.

(This issue is dedicated to the late Stacy Borland, a fallen hero in the battle for truth)

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