Religion.html: =========== ARTICLE-1. SECULARISM VS RELIGIOUS "MODERNISM" AND EXTREMISM. ARTICLE-2. SECULARISM - SOME CLARIFICATIONS & DEMYTHIFICATIONS ARTICLE-3. THE ORIGIN OF RELIGIOUS BELIEF ARTICLE-4. DOES RELIGION DEFINE MORALITY? ARTICLE-5. ON THE FREE WILL DEFENSE AGAINST ARGUMENT FROM EVIL ARTICLE-6. SCIENCE, RELIGION AND FAITH ARTICLE-7. MYTHS & FALLACIES OF APOLOGETICS OF RELIGION ARTICLE-8. GOD,ATHEISM & SECULAR HUMANISM ARTICLES ON SCIENCE VS. SPIRITUALITY & PHILOSOPHY 1. SECULARISM VS RELIGIOUS "MODERNISM" AND EXTREMISM The frequent bitter exchanges between so-called modern Islamists and secular free thinkers where former constantly accusing the latter of undermining any chance of success in the fight against religious extremism brings out a very important aspect of the school of thinking that typifies the believing segment of Islam and the secular free thinkers. A critical examination of where each stands and where the real difference lies between their stands and what is the root cause of this difference is in order. First, for the convenience of later reference let me define some abbreviations:(Symbols may not be worth thousand words like pictures, but perhaps will save hundred words!). B-1: (Believers of the first category): These are believing people who have strong views on religious issues, are opposed to religious extremism but believe that such extremism is due to misinterpretation of scriptures and they blame only the extremists for the extremist acts. This school of believers may or may not subscribe to secularism as a state principle. Some do, some do not, but most do view religion as an important aspect of national life. While most among this category are faithful believers of religion some of them may not believe in all the religious scriptures literally but nevertheless BELIEVE that there is nothing bad written or said in Islam (or any religion) , hence they are lumped in this believer category. B-2: (Believers of the second category): These are believers belonging to the vast majority of the ordinary mass who do not know or care to know the verses and edicts (Fatwas) let alone worry or debate about their veracity. They just practice and follow the normal religious rituals routinely in a non-political manner. They are usually placid in their religious pursuits and being generally gullible are only aroused and misled by vigorous propaganda. B-3: (Believers of the third category): These are the extremists among believers who engage in extremist acts and defend their extremist acts by referring to the scriptural verses and edicts and claim legitimacy of their acts from these verses and edicts. Sometimes they correctly interpret the verse and sometimes they distort them to suit their extremist act. SFT: (Secular Free Thinkers ): These are people who are convinced through reading of scriptures that the religious extremism is rooted in some passages of scriptures (mainly Koran and Hadith). and that the extremists derive their legitimacy/strength from the very existence of these verses and are of the view that merely opposing the extremists will not solve the problem decisively, since eliminating extremists will remove the effect/consequence , not the root cause cause which is giving rise to these extremists . A critical re-examination of the scriptures and an objective awareness of it is the right way to proceed to wards a solution, they opine. The two groups B-1 and SFT have one important thing in common in that they are both opposed to religious extremism/mists. Despite this significant agreement between both these groups on this important principle there is still much bitterness and caustic remarks are exchanged between them (More so by the former toward the latter) due to their disagreement in identifying the origin of religious extremism. I personally feel pained by this division as it only helps the extremists. Let us at least try to examine logically whose position is more/ less justified in principle and whose position sacrifices principle for pragmatic reasons and if there is any justification for that. It is clear that B-1, SFT, B- 3 are all a minority segment of the population. The normally silent B-2 are the majority. So what decides the relative importance of the three minority groups is how strongly a minority group can influence the normally silent majority B-2 and mobilize them against any of the the other two minorities. It is instructive to examine the relative hostility that exists between the three minorities. Although both SFT and B-1 are opposed to B-3, B-1 is also hostile towards SFT (Borne out by observations). This is exemplified by an article by Mr. Fatemolla in NFB where he mentioned that the remark by Dr. Kamal Hossain that "Hilla marriage is unIslamic" was wrong , which provoked an angry backlash from Ms. Majid who criticized Mr. fatemolla instead for calling Dr. Kamal Hossein wrong. This is further exemplified by the obsessed and focussed criticism by Dr. Farooq in his several articles in NFB of the " trivializers" of Ijtema (ie SFTs) as being of no help in fighting against the extremists (B-3), and alleging that it only helps the extremists. Interestingly the criticism of Dr. Farooq was exclusively directed against the putative trivializers/ trivialization and quite mildly against extremists/extremism. It would be a monumental injustice to EQUATE trivialization and extremism. While trivialization (Setting aside the question of the felicity of using such word) is only a verbal opinion by non-violent/non- aggressive individuals, hurting nobody, on the other hand, extremism is necessarily ACTS OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION that hurts innocent individual ( Physically and emotionally) . It is the height of insensitivity to even equate the two , let alone criticize the former exclusively. In both examples cited B- 1 are assuming that the criticism by SFT of the scriptural verses and edicts that spawned the extremist acts of B-3 are also a criticism/attack of B-2 (The silent , non aggressive majority) or their faith . Why is it alleged to be an attack on B- 2 ? Because it is said that B-2 have placed their unquestioning faith in these scriptures, hence any criticism of scriptures by SFT in order to explain the root causes of the behavior of B-3 is automatically an attack on B-2 and is immediately condemned ( without caring to judge its merit) by B-1 and the focus of B-1 is shifted obsessively on SFT rather than the misdeeds of B-3. SFT becomes the main culprit, more than B-3. Now how logical is the assumption that a criticism of some scriptures is automatically an attack on B-2? (Or on the faith thereof?) . "Attack" is a very convenient term devised in this context as it seems to legitimize a physical attack in retribution. There is no logical way to conclude that quoting an objectionable scriptural verse or edict to explain the acts of B-3 automatically constitutes "attacking" B-2 or their faith. This simply does not follow logic. This gratuitous allegation and condemnation of SFT by B-1 has a deep rooted reason that I will speculate on later, in the final section. By the way what is really meant by the word "attack", "hurt" etc, when B-1 characterizes the views/criticisms explaining the cause-effect relationship between the acts of B-3 and scriptures as attacking or hurting the religious sentiments of B-2 ? (B-1 as well). Let us dissect this frequent expression of angry response. Does faith being hurt mean the faith is weakened? If so then it is a reflection of the weakness of the person placing the faith and if the criticism weakens his/her faith then it is an indirect vindication of the validity of the criticism. If faith is not weakened by criticism then the meaning of "faith being hurt" must be that the believer is mentally distressed that someone is not agreeing with his/ her belief. In that case it indicates an intolerance of any dissenting views and a frustrated ego to know that others are not sharing in their favoured belief. There can be no other meaning of "faith being hurt" in this context. Faith is internal in one's heart, no words or actions can affect or change it(faith) and as long as one is not persecuted for their faith, any critical discussion of a faith should be a non issue for a believer, instead it should provide the believer with an opportunity to test his/ her strength in their belief in the face of a critical study of their faith by skeptics. As I said above that the SFT group are convinced on the basis of reading the scriptures that the problem is not merely due to a malicious misinterpretation, but due to there being some truth to what these extremists are quoting to defend their extremist acts/attitude. SFT do not deny that malicious and intentional misinterpretations can and do happen, but that they happen IN ADDITION TO many accurate and sincere interpretations that do justifiably lead to such extremist act/ attitude. SFT often quote exactly from Koran and Hadith to illustrate the verses and edicts that do justify some of the acts and attitudes of the extremists. When they do so, B-1 often skirt around these quotes and instead of falsifying the authenticity of such quotes angrily retort back to SFT by saying that such quoting does not help the cause against extremists/mism but only strengthens them by antagonizing the common mass of followers (B-2) .Now this needs some careful examination. First we have to settle objectively whether or not such quotes are authentic. Authentic renditions of Koran and Hadith are no classified materials. They are out in the public including the internet. So it should not be even debated. Since this dispute can be settled by facts alone that are available in public, no logic is needed to settle this dispute and I will move on to the logical issues after giving one example of such a dispute that can be resolved . Secondly the allegation by B-1 that "quoting the relevant verses and edicts and claiming them as the root cause of the acts of B-3 by SFT is an attack on B-2" needs even more careful examination. Before even B-2 (who are normally placid and indifferent) could know about the quotes of SFT, the loud and vociferous condemnation by B-1 of SFT already polarizes B-2 against SFT instead of B- 3 whose ACTIONS triggered the remarks of SFT in the first place. Had B-1 not made such hue and cry against SFT, B-2 would have gradually come to hear about the ACTS of B-3 and the explanation of those acts by SFT on their own and would have probably thought differently than the way they did after being polarized by the frenzied allegations of B-1 against SFT. In fact B-2 deserve more credit than given to them by B-1. In christianity it is the B-2 who led the reform movements and got christianity out from the clutches of religious extremism by getting rid of the dogmas in their mind and adopting a more pragmatic and dynamic view of religion and leading a life not obsessively focussing on scriptures, ignoring the questionable verses and quotes from scriptures as irrelevant, but not inconscientiously denying that they do exist as B-1 does in the case of Islam. Thankfully they did not have B-1 to vandalize the this spontaneous reform of B-2, or even if B-1 existed they did not vandalize it by pitting SFT against B-2. In most other religions also, B-2 acknowledged and ignored the negative/outdated part of scriptures and moved on while still practicing religious rites and prayers and focussing on the good aspects only. Thats what prevented a malignant growth of B-3 in these religions, since B-3 thrives knowing they can rely on B-2 to defend them by raising the bogey of "attack". When B-2 is informed and pragmatic, they can care less about "attack", since they have accepted and ignored the negatives. It is very likely that some of B-1 do not deny (In their heart) that some such unfavourable verses and edicts do verily exist in the scripture. The big difference between B-1 and SFT is in the STRATEGY they adopt. I will not engage into a research as to whether such negative verse, quote, fatwa etc are indeed an integral part of the scriptures or unauthorized constructions of extremists to justify giving vent to their extremist impulses, as that can be settled through by facts and data that are out and available in the public as I mentioned earlier. Instead I will focus on the principles and logical aspects of these issues and draw inferences from circumstantial evidence. Lets take two possible cases: CASE 1: The negative verses/edicts, etc do not exist anywhere in the scriptures and hence these fatwas are not in conformity with Islam. B-1's stand is right in this case. In this case obviously B-3 are committing some unislamic act in the name of Islam. Now if that is the case, then why don't B-1 act as zealously and aggressively as the B-3 against such anti-Islamic acts in the name of Islam? After all, the violent acts of B-3 are against what they sincerely "perceive" as anti-Islamic practices. So why not B-1 act even more aggressively and vengefully (Jihad?) against B-3 for acting in a way that tarnishes the image of Islam, specially since they are so sure that such acts of B-3 are not sanctioned by islam and many they think are downright against Islam and thus having the moral legitimacy to act against B-3? After all, they can arouse the sentiments of the majority segment B-2 convincing them easily (since it is true) about the unislamic nature of the acts of B-3 and the consequent damage B-3 are doing to Islam by claiming their actions to be sanctioned by Islam etc.. That would sure galvanize B-2 into action and form a formidable force of (B-1+ B-2) against B-3. B-3 would then be history in a short time! CASE 2: The objectionable Verses/Edicts are indeed written and preached in scriptures . In this case Both SFT and B-3 are right! SFT are right in their explaining the root cause of the extremist acts of B-3. B-3 are right in correctly interpreting and following the scriptures. In this case B-1 do not have strong moral strength to oppose and condemn the acts of B-3 but only make an academic criticism lamenting such acts of B-3 as unfortunate and due to a mistaken interpretations of the scriptures by some misguided followers. There reaction is limited to a passive lament only.In this case not being able to do much against B-3, B-1 channel their anger on SFT as spoiling their (B-1) chance of any success against their opposition to B-3. Circumstantial evidence points to an absence of a forceful backlash of (B-1+ B-2) against B-3 as expected if the first case was true, hence it is the second case that is plausibly true in actual reality. So it seems like there is indeed some truth to the allegations of SFT regarding the authenticity of some verses and edicts. Now I was mentioning strategical difference between the approaches of SFT and B-1 above. B-1 believe that scripture is a fait accompli. By that they mean that whatever questionable verses, exhortations etc that exist in Koran and Hadith, they are here to stay with us, its a fait accompli. Of course some of B-1 deny the existence of objectionable verses and edicts while others do acknowledge tacitly the existence of such. Even according to those among B-1,who do not deny them, to challenge and rectify those verses/edicts is an extremely risky venture and is doomed to defeat as it will infuriate not only the extremists but also the placid B-2 (who can be easily aroused by religious rhetoric, my observation). So forget about it. Don't even think of challenging/questioning/revising them, they say. The next best strategy is to blame it on the those extremist as having distorted/ misinterpreted the verses and made them up . This strategy has more chances of success as it is directed only against a smaller (but extreeeemely aggressive) subset of the religious community and this strategy is risk free as it cannot be judged to be directed against B-2 or their faith. So it is clear that the important player in this equation is the normally placid yet numerically powerful B-2. Whereas the main imperative of SFT is to create awareness among B-2 about the objectionable quotes of the scriptures and also a sense of antagonism against the acts of B-3 for picking those unethical verses and edicts to follow, the main imperatives of B-1 seems to manipulate B-2 and create a sense of hostility against SFTs rather than against the objectionable passages and the acts of B-3 inspired by such passages. Once the rival SFTs are demonized, B-1 then aspire to adopt a gentle persuasion approach to reform the B-3 (As few of B-1 are as aggressive or forceful as B-3 are, so gentle persuasion is the only approach they are capable of. It is in effect a capitulation of B-1 to the physical prowess of B-3). It is ironic that neither the SFTs nor the B-1 can take a forceful stand against the B-3, as it takes one rabble rouser ( can be from B-1 or B-3) to raise hell that Islam is being attacked and mobilize the gullible B-2 to rally against SFT or whoever from B-1 dared to challenge B-3 in a forcible way. Gentle persuasion seems to be the only viable ( which is also feckless as reality suggests) approach. Although this approach seems more pragmatic to many, but as I mentioned before it is due to a result of B-1 jumping too quickly in declaring that the remarks of SFT are an attack on B-2, giving no chance for B-2 to judge for themselves the remarks of SFT (correctly quoted) , and prematurely instigating them against SFT instead of rallying them in a forceful movement against B-3. Ironically if SFT limited itself to quoting the relevant verses and edicts only to explain the acts of B-3, they would not be considered to be attacking B-3, and B-3 would not be hostile against SFT for that (Although they are against SFT ideologically) as B-3 are in agreement with SFT in this explanation. It is most often the case that B-1 paints SFT as attacking the faith of B- 2 and thus muddy the whole situation and succeed in inciting both B-3 and B-2 against SFT. B-1 are wary about letting B-2 know about the authenticity of the objectionable verses and edicts (Excluding the ones that have been genuinely misinterpreted) fearing in that case that may precipitate a spontaneous mental reform movement among B-2 and thus ruining the dream of B-1 for a society and state with a religious overtone ( Albeit not in the extremist way that B-3 aspire and act). They have this obsessive dream of a nation that will pride itself in its achievements primarily as Muslims ( Secondarily as Bangladeshis, Pakistanis etc). Muslim identity is an obsession for them. Whereas most nations of the world take pride in their achievements, if any, solely as a NATION (Indians as Indians, not as Hindus, Americans as Americans, not as Christians), B-1 like to take pride as a Muslim nation. Thus since most of B-1 are against secularism, they don't want a mass mental reformation like Christianity as mentioned earlier where reformed public attitude towards scripture paved the way for the eventual acceptance and glorification of secularism in the West. Islamic world is far from that owing to the counteractive effects of B-1 to such reform. So it is not the SFT who are actually ruining the struggle against B-3, but the preemptive finger pointing by B-1 against SFT which is ruining it. Since regardless of whether the SFTs are wrong or right in their views about the edicts and verses, B-1 can always constructively channelize B-2 against B-3 if they have the sincere intention, ignoring the academic criticisms of some minority of SFT instead of being obsessively focussed on them. After all, don't the SFT and B-1 (And also B-2 if they are correctly guided) have a common enemy B-3? Isn't it ironic that B-1,B-2, and SFT are ALL against the acts of B-3, but all that happens is a bickering by B-1 against SFT and dragging B-2 along with it, with B-3 gloating over this bickering. 2. SECULARISM - SOME CLARIFICATIONS AND DEMYTHIFICATIONS In this article I would like to point out some fallacies and myths that appear in the debates on religion and secularism with an intent to convince opponents of secularism that secularism is not inconsistent with religious beliefs and practices and is based on justice, fairness and equality to all, an important Hallmark of religious teaching. I will be only guided by logic to make my case. Only faith is not amenable to validation/invalidation by logic. Secularism, on the other hand, is not a faith and is certainly possible to (in)/validate through logic. First a review of secular, religious and Human Rights concepts is in order since they are all intimately connected in such a discussion. A. HIGHLIGHTS OF SECULARISM : 1) Allowing equal rights for free religious belief and practices to followers for all religions regardless of the numerical ratios of the religious followers of all the religions and the wishes 2) No preferential representation/recognition/rights/priviledges of any specific religion in all areas of state principles and policies. (regardless of the numerical size of any religion and regardless of the wishes of the majority religion to the contrary). No preferential representation can mean EQUAL representation or NO representation Ideally NO representation should be the goal to minimize overhead and possible breach by the majority due to their bias and privileged position of power and numerical superiority. Only in limited cases (Like religious holidays etc) can EQUAL representations be admissible. The part referring to "regardless of the wishes of the majority" is difficult to grasp by many. This is the essence of democracy where personal wishes are sacrificed for an ideal/principle if the two are in conflict. 3) Secularism DOES NOT IMPLY opposing/banning religion (practice or belief) itself or REQUIRE one to be atheist (Follows from 2 & 3). 4) Secularism is not opposed to public performance of religious rites/ practices where it is permitted such that it does not interfere with public life and is not in contradiction with civil laws that are abided by followers of all religious followers. ( NO religion mandates performance of religious rituals inside a parliament, in a public square or praying LOUDLY etc. Any prayer can be done silently in the heart and still meet the religious injunctions.) 5) Secularism opposes using religious beliefs of a certain religion to influence or determine state principles or policies. It is also against performance of religious services and rituals in OFFICIAL ceremonies and events. Trivial instances like religious holidays (Which benefits ALL religions ) or the example of "In GOD we trust" inscription in a coin do not constitute a breach of secularism ."GOD" is a generic English term (not a "christian" term) that can be fitted (with proper interpretation) to any religious faith (or even atheism where GOD = natural laws) and moreover inscription in a coin is not an issue of policy. 6) Secularism opposes any human rights violation committed solely due to holding a religious belief or practicing it where it is allowed by secular civil law. (Reminder: denial of a privilege does not constitute human rights violation ). If anyone does engage in such persecution, they are obviously not truly representing secularism. CLARIFICATIONS: No religion mandates their followers to apply religious beliefs/ revelations to State or Public affairs beyond practicing it in their personal lives. For example one can be true Muslim even Islam is believed and practiced in private (Follows from a reading of the revelations of all religions). None of the five pillars of Islam that define a true Muslim require theocracy or is inconsistent with secularism. Hence secularism is compatible with religion as a private or collective ritual belief but not Islamic theocracy. If a State/Society/Regime that claims to be secular, but shows preferential bias towards or against certain religion, or if a section of the people engage in acts in violation of secular ideals then it is the failing of that society or regime to enforce "strict secularism" (mistakenly called "secular fundamentalism" by those opposed to secularism:), not the failing of secularism as a principle, in much the same way that law and order is not ideal in many countries where rule of law is mandated by the constitution. Also a reminder that if any religion "X" or its act in a way that comes in clash with civil laws and place them in an advantage over other religions/ followers, and the state oppose such acts, then the state is NOT violating secular principles but is rather preventing "X" from violating the same since not preventing so would translate into a bias against the other religions Y,Z.. since secularism requires no preferential advantage be given to any religion. Secularism is a principle that applies to "state", not to an individual. Only a BELIEF in a secular state is required. People don't have to change or "be" anything different that what they are for state to be secular One can continue to be religious or fanatic(if limited to belief only), atheist whatever in their personal life under a secular state, because a true secular state will allow all religious beliefs and practices (equally). For example secularism was in effect in Bangladesh until 1978. No one can say that Islam was in danger . Islam was alive and well before 1978. Reverting to pre 1978 constitution of Bangladesh would cause no harm but would only help to aquire substantial mileage in the quest for religious harmony. Other examples of compatibility between secularism and religion are USA, India and the UK. USA does not hinder the religious practice of Christians, Muslims, Hindus. There are mosques, temples, Ram Krishna missions in all major cities. All religious festivals are held without hindrance. Muslims are not forbidden to go to the mosque in India, or celebrate Eid etc. Now one can bring in riots and prejudices. Those are social manifestations of personal instincts. Those are the very realities that conscientious Hindus in India have to address as well. We are talking about the issue of secularism as a state principle as explained earlier. The core principle of secularism is separation of church and STATE, not between church and INDIVIDUALS/PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS. And the reason for this principle is very simple, common sensical and fair. Any PUBLIC/STATE entity belongs to and often is supported (through tax) by citiziens of all affiliations (Atheist, agnostic, fanatics, Muslims, Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hundus..). So for a public or state institution to promote or allow specific religious practice & exhortation in a PUBLIC or STATE affairs or premises is a tacit preferential granting of priviledges to that religion and an explicit breah of secular principle. To be fair ALL affiliations should be given equal priviledge. But since not all religious groups are equally intrusive or interested in promoting their beliefs and rituals (Some even detest such advertizing in public) that would be unfair to them. Besides it would be an extra overhead to grant such priviledges to ALL. So the sensible option is to not allow such priviledges at all in public/state funded affairs and institutions. Of course it is a truism to say (but nevertheless worth repeating as it is also missed) that one is free to privately utter, preach or deliver religious harangues in public places. So while it is wrong for a public institution to preach or promote religion in, there is nothing worng for a student in a public school to preach or sermoinize to his fellow students outside the class. Private religious bodies can and do rent public spaces for religious occasions. We see that routinely in public institutions where auditoriums are rented by religious bodies for religious festivities/ceremonies or individuals privately sermonzing in open squares within a public institutions. They are not breaking any secular law and those incidents are not raised as issues by supporters of secular principles , unlike the issues of prayer in public schools or putting up banners or similar clear cases of breach od secular principles. The important thing to realize is that it is not the religious signs or practices itself that should bother anyone, but the insensitivity shown through breach of secular principles (breach identified by clear guidelines). Nobody should be and is bothered ( at least externally) by any religious exhortations, rites and practices when they are done within the secular guidelines. Regarding the "In God we trust" inscription on US currency, it is against the principle of secularism in a puritanic sense. But that may be the only exception with a good reason (Not for its original decision to inscribe it, but for not doing anything about it now). Note that "In God we trust" does not favour Christians. It applies eqully to Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists (In a philosophical sense for them, a Buddhist maxim says that whoever loves all creatures loves God). The original founding fathers may not have atheists and agnostics in mind, or may be they interpreted that all have some abstract sense of a God (Even atheists view the laws of nature as the Ulimate entity, a sort of God). Besides as I mentioned, this dictum is general enough to accomodate all religions. More importantly US constitution explicitly states secularism. So that effectively abrogates the verse in the inscription, if at all one is concerned about the inscription. At least it is not a divine abrogation, but a human one :). Nevertheless, to take away the inscriptions now may be an extra overhead as well. I don't think the cost may be worth it. UNDOING this fait accompli has a cost associated with and will only benefit the atheists. On the other hand doing something which is clearly against secular principles, benefitting only a specific religion, and when "not doing it" does not have any cost associated with it, hardly has any reason to justify doing it. B. NOTES ON HUMAN RIGHTS: 1) A denial of a privilege DOES NOT constitute a human rights violation. 2) Preventing and/or persecuting for exercising one's fundamental rights (Freedom of expression, freedom of movement in public places, freedom to practice one's Faith/Religion etc), DOES constitute a Human Rights violation. 3) A human rights violation is invariably characterized by either forcefully (Ultimately by physical means) preventing someone from doing what they are entitled to do as a RIGHT (Reminder, not as a Privilege) or by physically torturing someone as a punishment for having done something they are entitled to do as a free person. C. FALLACIES AND MYTHS ABOUT SECULARISM: 1) One fallacy is failing to see the cause->effect relationship in the adversarial position of secularism and theocracy. For example let us for the sake of generality assume two adversarial groups A and B (in our case A=secularist, B=Theocratist ) Denote "-->" = An offensive/defensive action toward/against A-->B-->A-->B-->A-->B-->A.... 1-->2-->3-->4-->5-->6-->7.... Some fallacies conveniently look at some intermediate step (4->5 say), ignoring the preceding sequence and declare B as the offender! For example When US first launched the attack on Iraq in 1990 any subsequent defensive maneuver by Iraq was labelled as an aggressive posture. Failing to see the first offender is a common and convenient fallacy. A similar fallacy is applied to secularism where secularists/ ism are portrayed as persecutor of religion. The fact is that Secularism came long after the (revealed) religions arrived, hence it couldn't have caused the birth of religion as a reaction to it. Rather Secularism itself was the result of a reaction to religious persecution of those whose only "offense" was dissension and refusal to accept religious dogma. History is rife with examples of religious persecution in medieval Europe and Arabia. We all know about persecutions of the infamous inquisition. The burning of Giordano Bruno, the persecution of Galilieo are glaring examples. Many free thinkers were tortured and killed under Islamic theocracy also. Even today in most of the Islamic theocracies in the middle east free thinking is not allowed and will be suppressed by brutal acts of human rights violation. So it is the persecution by the theocratists (A->B) of the free thinkers that caused the historical emergence of secular ideas as a back lash. Secular ideas never came to oppose religion itself. If it did then it would have opposed ALL faiths and religions. Secularists never had anything to say against Buddhism although a huge proportion of humanity practice Buddhism since ancient time. Secularists are against religious persecution/coercion, NOT religion itself. 2) A common fallacy against secularism is to try to place secularism in parallel with religion as another doctrine/dogma aimed at destroying religion itself (Again conveniently forgetting that secularism was triggered by religious "persecution", not religion). The trick is to append "ism/ist" to anything and promote it to a doctrine or to interpret the "ism" in secularism as a doctrine. Taken to an absurd extreme this fallacy can be applied to label anyone strictly neutral as neutralist, anyone believing strictly in truth as truthist etc and by extension anyone believing and practicing strict secularism as "secular fundamentalist". Its like saying that neutralists are "fanatic" believers of neutralism, that they are another form of fanatics etc. ! Clearly the expression "Secular fundamentalism" is an OXYMORON, IF fundamentalism is defined as (From Merriam-Webster) : " a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching " Now secularism cannot preach literal following and teaching of Bible or Koran, or...So In this sense certainly secular fundamentalism is an oxymoron. On the other hand "Secular fundamentalism", can be a meaningful concept, IF the second more general definition of fundamentalism is used ( Merriam-Webster): "a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles" With the above definition of fundamentalism, "Secular fundamentalism" as a meaningful idea can only be of neutral or positive connotation, since in this case it only means strictly adhering to the principles of secularism. Does any principle ever preach " non-strict" adherence? For critics of secularism it doesn't buy them anything additional to use such a definition, since it only means strict secularism, so it has no additional value beyond that of secularism itself. Since this definition of fundamentalism does not buy the anti-secularists any mileage so this is not the sense in which it is used by them. The definition which anti-secularists like to use is : " Use any definition that makes secularism look bad and religion a victim of secularism" . Here's what the official position is on this issue from secular humanist website: ( Quoted from 10 myths about secular humanism at : http://www.SecularHumanism.org/library/fi/cherry_18_1.01.html) "Related myths are that secular humanism is the official religion of the government, the media, the universities, and anyone else who refuses to support a favorite dogma. All these claims make the same mistake: they confuse neutrality with hostility. That' s a good tactic if you want to create a persecution complex, but it disregards the fact that neutrality toward different world views is the best protection from persecution in our democratic society. Separating church and state doesn't mean that the state promotes atheism and humanism, but that it provides equal protection to all beliefs, as people of many religions who are at the forefront of the battle to defend the "Wall of Separation" will be the first to tell you." 3) Another fallacy is when an act that has nothing to do with secularism or human rights violation is cited to denigrate secularism as human rights violation. For example the case of the Women Turkish parliament member Merve Kavakci is cited to illustrate the "excesses" of secularists and by expressing enough outrage and loud condemnation promote it to a human rights violation issue. But cold logic can readily enable one to see that it was a case of denial of a privilege and not a case of violation of basic human rights. Denying access to the parliament for not conforming to a dress code does not prevent anyone from believing and practicing their faith/ religion. A clever ploy is the intentional use of the wrong expression to characterize something to arrive at a desired conclusion. The wrong expression used in the context of the Turkish parliamentarian being that "She was being prevented from wearing hijab" or "She was denied the right to wear Hijab" etc. Alert readers must have detected the fallacy of mischaracterization. The fact was that she was denied admission to the parliament. That was a denial of a privilege. She was free to wear Hijab anywhere else. One does not have to be admitted to parliament ot be a true Muslim. So that denial of admission cannot constitute religious persecution or violation of basic rights. Similarly in secular USA and in many other western countries one can see signs "No shirt no shoes no service". Bare footed/shirtless people simply walk on after seeing the sign. Human rights are not violated. They don' t launch a political movement to fight this and cry human rights violation. People not dressed properly for an interview are rejected a job offer. Human rights are not violated. Women reject their suitors for not grooming themselves nicely. Human rights are not violated. School children are reprimanded and rusticated for not wearing uniforms (In Bangaldesh also). This is just a principle in action that applies to the school. Outside the school in home and public places that rule does not apply (as was also the case of the Turkish female parliamentarian). No violation of human rights are involved in these situations. Only denial of privileges due to non-compliance of the rule of game for enjoying the privileges. Merve Kavakci was denied admittance to the parliament because she refused to comply with the dress code by insisting to wear a scarf and still be admitted to the parliament. She decided to fight against this denial which triggered a political struggle between herself and the authority. As with most third world countries political opposition is dealt with repressive measures (Bangladesh is no exception, in fact much worse). This does not sound like a human rights violation issue. If Merve Kavakci had complied with the condition for the privilege or decided go back leading her usual life not worrying about enjoying the privilege of a parliamentary member then this would not have become an issue. It should be remembered that Turkey is run by a military junta of a third world country, not an ideal scenario of democracy. It is certainly repressive towards OPPOSITION to its policies like all third world countries (military or civil). REPRESSION of an OPPOSITION movement to allow admission into parliament wearing Hijab maybe an undemocratic political act as per western democracy. If the repression takes the form of physical torture when the opposition was limited to verbal protests then it would be a case of a human rights abuse, but the act of denying a privileged admission in itself is NOT a human rights violation. Any other case of repression may at worst be viewed as undemocratic practices of Turkish regime typical of so many countries, including Bangladesh (A civilian "democratic", certainly not a secular fundamentalist nation), where officials, educators are routinely fired/ hired on the basis of their political affiliations, opposition is suppressed undemocratically. So what is different for Turkey? To see real violation of human rights one has to look at Saudi Arab or Afghanistan or Iran, where women are punished for not wearing hijab/ veil in public and the repression is severe for not conforming to its strict dress and behavior code (not just in privileged places but public places and in private as well) , that nobody dares to even challenge or question it. And we are talking about punishment, not denial of a privilege. Most punishments are physical, the worst form of human rights abuse and insult to the dignity of a woman. When an author is issued a death fatwa merely for writing about their ideas and views, that is a human rights violation. In Turkey at least one could challenge and protest thereby attracting outside attention. Nobody raises roof over Saudi Arabia's brutal repression since there is no protest (out of fear), thereby not creating any noise to draw attention of outside world. Outside world (Western, thirds world, ALL) condone Saudi Arabia for economic reasons, as most countries have mutually profitable economic ties with it and would rather not do anything to lose such beneficial ties by irking the Saudis. Principles do give way to pragmatism after all. People are misled into believing that religion itself is being attacked and followers of Islam are being tortured or prevented from practicing Islam in Turkey. The fact is that 70% women wear Hijab in Turkey. None of them are being tortured or being prevented form wearing Hijab. Those who watch the Travel channel where Turkey is featured quite regularly cannot escape noticing women wearing hijab freely in public places and homes and Islamic traditions and practices reflected in people's life. There are mosques and the sound of Azan is heard routinely. Islamic customs are widely followed in Turkey in personal life unhindered. There are 70,000 mosques in Turkey well maintained by the government. Private practice of faith is not at all barred or discouraged and is in fact practiced by the very same people enforcing the strict secular principles. Turkey is a strictly (mislabelled as fanatically) secular state and true to this spirit they don't allow any public/state projection of Islam that has the potential of sowing the seed of fanaticism. The expression secular fundamentalism is misapplied. If at all, Turkish authority have been rigid and not compromised their principle of not allowing admission to parliament unless one stops wearing scarf. Unlike Canada and US where authorities have been lenient towards these issues. The example of Canada's allowing wearing turbans by sikh mounted police was a gesture of good will driven by practical considerations as Sikhs are a powerful ethnic component in Canadian society and Canadian police would have lost a dedicated and efficient group of policemen if they hadn't yielded. Same is the situation in US where practical considerations (Plus genuine sensitivity) also inspired companies and government agencies to grant privileges. They didn't have to. But they did. It was not because it would have been otherwise a case of human rights violation that Sikhs were allowed turbans or women were allowed to wear hijab in certain work places in USA, but because it made practical sense and goodwill is considered a nice aspect of culture. Turkey could certainly follow Canada and USA' s example and be more lenient toward granting exceptions and privileges. But the socio- political reality is different there from that in Canada and US, so they know best what is right for them. Certainly there are political repression there like in Bangladesh and other third world countries which amnesty international and other international bodies should monitor and apply pressure to redress them. But calling the instances of denying privileges as "Human Rights Violation" is pure rhetoric and hysterical and motivated by the desire to vilify secularism itself. 4) A common fallacy is guilt by association fallacy. For example if a COMMUNIST regime oppresses an individual or a group following a certain religious faith (For whatever reasons. Usually it is due to a perceived threat from those followers against communist ideals), it is lablled as secularists oppressing religious followers just because communism coincidentally also adopts secularism. Communism is a dogma like theocracy. All dogmatists tend to be repressive and resort to human rights violation to PRESERVE their dogma from perceived threat from a rival dogma. Communism and theocracy are rival dogmas and hence they are mutually inconsistent and antagonistic. A communist regime will perceive "threats from religion" and vice versa. Secularism is NOT a dogma , rather a reaction to a dogma (theocracy), and Hence it is not incompatible with religion but is incompatible with theocracy. So if and when a communist regime perceives a (maybe unjustified) threat from a certain religious follower or a subset of followers and resorts to repression, it is committing an act of political repression in defense of communism, NOT secularism and it should be characterized as political repression instead of "Secular fundamentalism". Secularism does not advocate communism or capitalism (it is indifferent in that regard, it only requires democracy) and does not condone repressive acts of communists, or by anyone against another solely due to their beliefs. Similar arguments apply to other forms of Dogmatism, like racial supremacist dogma ( As Hitler). All repression, persecutions that have been committed were committed by Racial supremacist (Hitler), or communist regimes, or simply politically oppressive regimes not behaving democratically, none of which represents secularism, though they may all be non-believers and believe in not mixing state with religion, but that is incidental and secondary, dogma (racial supremacy, state control of human life etc) is PRIMARY. Suppressing any opposition from religionists or a rival secularist group is primary goal, so they do not represent secularism (At least not in their repressive actions). To accuse an atheist/agnostic of religious bigotry is illogical, instead all bigotry for them must be based on race, culture, a historic event etc ( anything other than religion) that placed them in adversarial relation with the race, as Hitler's case shows. Hitler was a RACIAL BIGOT. As a parenthetical remark let me add that all bigotry in the final analysis is rooted in something other than religion/ race. There is always a root cause of hatred (Cause being used in the " efficient" sense as giving rise to an effect). In Hitler's case it was rooted in the utter humiliation of Germany/Germans in World War-I and where jews were suspected in collaborating with Germany's foes to bring about such humiliation. But regardless, the extermination of Jews by Nazis is the most disgraceful chapter in human history and is certainly indefensible. And again it was not rooted in religion, or due to atheism, but due to rivalry and hatred arising out a historical event that gave way to the most base impulse in humans (aggression which is further rooted in Biology). Human rights abuse is characterized by persecution solely due to a dissenting faith or views, where the persecution takes the form of physical coercion, like lashing a woman, severing the head etc. Turkish policy of not allowing Hijab in parliament, doesn't even compare a fig with this gross violation of human dignity through infringement of one's bodily sanctity as committed by the Talibans and Saudi Laws and other societies enforcing strict scriptural Laws. 5)Another fallacy is to call individual attitudes toward religion, beliefs etc ranging from skepticism, ridicule etc as "secular fundamentalism" , "religious intolerance or extremism" etc. This is a ridiculous stretch. An "attitude" or "view" cannot be promoted to any " fundamentalism" or "extremism". After all, secularism did not arise just because of "attitudes" of religionists, but due to what was "DONE" by religious extremists to non-believers/dissenters. So individual attitudes (finding religious beliefs and rituals irrational/funny, etc) do not qualify for such strong labels as "fundamentalism" or extremism. Such personal attitudes don't have anything to do with secularism, so associating the word "secular" with such attitudes are clearly tendentious. Some abstract and "conveeenient" definitions of "secular fundamentalism" doesn't help to detract anything from secularism or justify linking the word secular with individual attitudes and mindsets that are unacceptable to religionists. I stress again that non- believers/secularists have never "DONE" anything repressive to believers/religionists SOLELY due to their holding a religious belief or practicing their belief in a non intrusive manner. Anti religious bigotry of one religious member towards another may be due to ignorance or prejudice but anti religious "sentiment" of atheists/agnostics/skeptics, if any, is certainly not due to ignorance or prejudice, but due to a reaction to religious bigotry and oppression towards them. Without such oppression there is no reason for them to be anti religious and Non-believers/dissenters can never harbour any hatred towards any belief system in much the same way that no one hates any belief in fairies, unicorns, Thunder Gods, snake Gods etc . Its only when the belief system is backed up by coercion, persuasive attempt of imposition, physical persecution towards non-believers that a back lash (secularism) is provoked among the non-believers. No secularists ever look down on/condemn Buddhists for wearing Geruas, Hare Krishnas for shaving their heads and singing chants etc. No secularists would be offended to see a woman wearing a scarf, a man wearing a cap and Islamic dress in public etc. If followers of all religion limited themselves to religious practices in a non imposing/ unobtrusive manner without any persecution/coercion then secularism would never have been born as a principle (Or rather counter principle, to defend against the INVASIVE actions of religious dogmatists. Christianity and Hinduism has virtually erased its past coercive nature, Islam has not.) CONCLUSION: I think I have provided convincing arguments to make the point that secularism is not only compatible with religion, but is also conducive to religious harmony and an efficient and streamlined state machinery. Whereas Theocracy is loaded with potentials for religious persecution and tension between religions, violation of universally agreed on human rights and extra overhead to the state. Even if only the cost vs. benefit view is adopted, then certainly secularism is preferable over theocracy. 3. THE ORIGIN OF RELIGIOUS BELIEF (Also in http://www.egroups.com/messages/eshomabesh/2541) This is a general discussion on the roots of religious belief without focussing on any specific religion. Let me provide an advanced clarification in anticipation of possible angry retorts like "Faith is a personal matter, you don't have any right to criticize it" or "You have no right to hurt other's religious sentiment by questioning their belief" etc. In response to the first anticipated criticism let me state that, YES, certainly faith is a personal matter. No one has any right to PREVENT others from believing in a faith. But an objective examination of the possible CAUSES of faith and pointing out any irrational aspect of faith DOES NOT indicate intolerance for the faith itself or prevent anyone from believing in it in the same way that we consider a child's belief in fairies irrational but still we don' t condemn or criticize them for their belief or prevent them either. The second criticism requires a careful response. We can summarize the situation as (A is a believer in a faith "X" and B is a skeptic, but not intolerant of "X".) A: I believe in "X". . B: Belief in "X" is irrational because [...], and hence I don't believe in "X". A: Any criticism of my belief amounts to hurting my sentiment. Besides your not believing in "X" is as much a belief as my believing in "X". B: If you call my "not believing in X" a faith ( lets call it faith "Y") , then by the same logic your "belief in X" amounts to not believing in "Y" and automatically implies irrationality of "Y" and hence is no different from my not believing in "X" and hence I have equal rights to be insulted for your implication of the irrationality of my faith "Y", although I will not exercise my rights. The above hypothetical dialog illustrates the spirit of my discussion. I have no intention of hurting or there can be no logical way for me to hurt anyone by my contrary opinions, views or reasoning. Besides what is meant by a belief being hurt anyway?. Let us dissect this frequent expression of angry response. Does faith being hurt mean the faith is weakened? If so then its a reflection of the weakness of the person placing the faith and if the criticism weakens his/her faith then it is an indirect vindication of the validity of the criticism. If faith is not weakened by criticism then the meaning of "faith being hurt" must be that the believer is mentally distressed that someone is not agreeing with his/her belief. In that case it indicates an intolerance of any dissenting views and a frustrated ego to know that others are not sharing in their favored belief. There can be no other meaning of " being hurt" in this context. Faith is internal in one's heart, no words or actions can affect or change it and as long as one is not persecuted for their faith, any critical discussion of a faith should be a non issue for a believer, instead it should provide the believer with an opportunity to test his/her strength in their belief in the face of a critical study of their faith by skeptics. Having established the preamble let me go on to my main discussion. Often people who have absolute faith in a given religion justify their believing in that particular religion by saying that the world around us is so orderly and that the mystery of life and death, the amazing complexity of human body, mind etc are impossible for human to create/ understand, so there must be a grand designer, i.e GOD. They are confusing belief in religion with belief in GOD (the "creator" of this universe). Belief in a religion is much more than believing in GOD, it requires believing blindly in all that is preached in that religion, for example that the holy book of their religion is literally the word of GOD, that all the miraculous events mentioned in their holy books are true and that all that are instructed/taught in their holy books are absolute and should be followed and all the divine revelations of that religion be believed without question. All these require blind faith since these cannot be verified/justified by logic or rational thinking or objective evidence. The sense of awe and mystery that led them to postulate a grand designer, is erroneously extended into justifying a belief in these additional human constructs besides the universal human instincts of the perception of a grand designer. One important point (which is self-evident but seems hard to come to grip with) is that although an instinct of God and Life after death is a universal one and is not necessarily a result of indoctrination or belief in other humans, any belief in the revelations of a particular religion on the other hand really stems ultimately from a belief in other humans and indoctrination. Since few have direct oracular experience regarding divine revelations, most of those who have firm belief in them have placed a firm belief in what they have been told through preaching by fellow humans, reading books (Printed by humans) etc. If someone believes in the revelations due to a direct divine experience (Which no other person can verify) totally on their own and not having been told about them, then that would indeed be a sound basis for a firm belief. But even in that case if that person told others about his/her experience ( and it would be a truthful account, excluding of course hallucinatory experiences/ illusions etc) and others believed in him/her, then the belief of others will be a result of belief in a human, unlike the person who experienced the divine revelations directly. So from this it is quite clear that all the major religions are based ultimately on belief in humans (This chain of belief in humans ending ultimately in the prophets, also humans). This chain can be symbolized in the form below: "A believes in B who says that he believes in C who says that he believes in D who says that....... who SAID that he believed in Z who said that God said that....(revelations)" (For this instance imagine there are billions of people between A and Z and 1400/2000 years have passed between Z and A. ). The entire edifice of revealed religion and divinity is based on this chain of belief in humans. Another important point to remember is that one can be led to believe in the existence of some Supreme Entity because of the very reason mentioned in the beginning i.e, the sense of awe and wonder at the beauty/complexity of the Universe and the consequent hypothesis that there must be some super being that is behind all this, but the same reason may not motivate one to believe in any one of the existing religion. Often those who don't believe in any existing religion are labeled as atheist/Godless whereas in reality they may be equally or more awed by the mystery of the universe and have their own concept of a Super Entity (Not necessarily an entity with the attributes defined by those religions). As mentioned before belief in a given religion is a result of blind faith. This blind faith is caused by being born in a particular religion where one is indoctrinated from birth about the authenticity of their religion and the rigid religious surrounding where one grows up and witnesses everyone around him/her following/ believing in the same religion and preaching other religions to be inferior/wrong, which instills a blind and biased faith which is ingrained in their mind firmly and becomes an absolute truth to them, losing not only any ability to critically examine its rational basis, but shuddering at the very thought of such a critical assessment as being taboo and a mortal sin. It illustrates the idea of memes, which are equivalent to viruses of beliefs and ideas that spread from one individual/group to another. If someone born in a certain religion is brought up in a totally neutral environment (As far as religion is concerned) but otherwise same way as others and is introduced to ALL religions when they are adult the odds are that he/she may choose ANY one of those religions (NOT necessarily the one he/she was born. Assuming also that this info of which religion he/she was born into is also kept unknown to him/her) or may not even choose any at all. So there is no absolute reason for believing in any given religion. Regarding the incidence of spontaneous conversion from one religion into other, that happens between all religions so there is nothing preferentially absolute about any given religion either. Individual incidences of conversion from Religion-X to Religion-Y or from no- religion to Religion-Z does not exclusively establish the rationality of any religion, because cross conversions occur between all religions in differing degrees.. There is a flaw in the way one arrives at the notion of divine creation by a conscious being in the image of a human albeit with superhuman attributes (i.e God) just out of a sense of awe at the level of complexity of life (Human in particular). We are seeing an end product of an evolution that went on for over 4 billion years before arriving at the form what we see today. If a human being sprang up from scratch to its advanced form in one swoop, it would indeed be a miracle. But starting from a single celled organism 4 billion years ago and progressively becoming more and more complex/organized, incrementally adding more and more features through the process of natural selection and mutation(A trial error so to speak), taken over an incredible length of time of 4 billion years, if one pause to think of this process, it may not seem that incredible or miraculous after all. It is true that how from a complex organic molecule, the first cell with a complete characteristics of reproduction, protein synthesis and genetic transmission developed is still, a mystery. But a mystery is not a miracle. One may have noticed that when one watches a baby grow up day by day the transformation from a baby to grown up doesn't strike him/ her at all and happens in a natural way vs one who saw the baby once and then came back after a long gap to see the baby grow up to an adult is struck by the transformation. If one had the longevity of a billion years and watched the simple primitive organic molecule evolve bit by bit to complex molecules, then to cells to complex cells, then to primitive life forms and eventually to human and other species over this length of time this would also appear quite natural. One simply has to appreciate the power of evolution in the process of self organization and complexity over an extended period of time. We are all familiar with this self organization process in daily life on a much compressed scale when we see the finished product which amaze our eyes to see it being made from raw ingredients barely resembling it in beauty and symmetry. It can be an artificial product like a jewelry, or a natural one like the ice crystals formed out of raindrops etc showing amazing symmetry and beauty. It is the Law of Physics that is the grand designer of everything including Life. It is the Laws of Physics that manifests itself in biogenesis and evolution at the cell level. We don't know how or where did The Laws of Physics itself come from. Postulating an uncreated and ever-existing GOD who created the Laws of Physics is not any more profound than the simpler and more likely postulate of an uncreated and ever- existing Laws of Physics that gave rise to the entire universe with life through the materialization of the laws. Let us now list and examine some other possible root causes for belief in religion and God by most people (Common to all religions): A. Reasons rooted in wishful thinking and personal needs B. Reasons rooted in illogical conclusions drawn from events in life C. Reasons rooted in Social Needs D. Reasons rooted in the evolutionary history and neurophysiology of Humans. Although D is the most fundamental level of explanation of the origin of religious belief, it is instructive to also view it in the higher levels as in A-C, which themselves are rooted in D. Let me expand on each cases above. A. Reasons rooted in wishful thinking and personal needs: 1) Fear of death and loss of loved ones. The wish for a life after death. Humans find it extremely hard to accept that death means a permanent destruction of their body and mind and loss of their loved ones. There is a yearning innate to humans as an instinct for a permanent life and/or to join their deceased loved ones. This yearning to live for ever beyond this world reflects a deep rooted love for one' s self, in other words a kind of narcissism. The fact is that it is the collective survival of the human race that is meaningful. Each individual is just a link in the infinite chain of the continuity of human species. Each death of an individual is replaced by the birth of another life. One should look at their individual life as playing a meaningful role in maintaining this continuity. Each generation inherits the fruits of the advances and knowledge of its predecessor and passes it on in a value added way to its successor and human race as a whole is forever progressing further and further, and eventually may spread beyond the planet earth to the outer reaches of the universe. As scientist Daniel Hillis says "Its haughty of us to think we're the end product of evolution. All of us are part of producing whatever is coming next". (" Third culture - Brockman", page-385). Here's another moving quote by the famous Carl Sagan in his death bed: (As appeared in the March 1997 issue of Parade magazine): "I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an afterlife, I know of nothing to suggest that it is more than wishful thinking. The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides." 2) Problems/Crisis in life and a sense of helplessness when no solution is found, or a sense of frustration/outrage at the injustice and unfairness that exists. A belief in God who will take care of all the problems and will mete out justice in due time provides a sense of hope and comfort and a driving force to continue on with life amidst this helplessness/frustration. Also the hope that all unfulfilled dreams and material aspirations that were not met in this world may be fulfilled in the life hereafter in heaven. After all, heaven is described as the place where all one's desires and lusts (virgins, ambrosia, jewelry, delicious foods etc) will be met and provided. 3) The need to fill the inner spiritual vacuum and an inherent spiritual need of human to understand the meaning of this world and life. This is behind a Hindu meditating, doing yoga, a Muslim offering prayer or a Christian reciting a hymn etc. This inner spiritual vacuum arises out of a sense of helplessness and being overwhelmed by the vicissitude of life where it seems like one has no ultimate control of anything about their own life, nothing happens as one wishes and one goes through ups and downs that seem to be hard to explain and thus one develops a sense that there exists a force that acts mysteriously and their lives are guided/ controlled by this mysterious force and then they resort to some form of worship, meditation as a symbolic means of uniting with that force or gaining enlightenment about it. But the point here is that belief in religion /God and ritual worshipping is not the ONLY or the BEST way of filling this inner spiritual vacuum. A very appropriate way of filling this is through the pursuit of and eventual acquisition of knowledge and truth about nature. Carl Sagan couldn't have said it better. KNOWING that there exist billions of galaxies, each galaxies containing billions of stars, and billions of stars containing planets and sun and earth being only one out of those billions star-planet duo is in itself a spiritually fulfilling experience. (In his ABC Nightline interview few months before his death) . Knowing how species evolve from one another and how life develops from a minute sperm to a full grown life form, how the complex molecules self organize into a living DNA structure, all these knowledge gets one closer to an understanding of the deep mysteries of nature. After all, these meditations/prayer of a ritually religious persons are intended to attain enlightenment, isn't it? If nature is the creation of some supreme deity then the mystery of nature (Reading the "mind" of God as Stephen Hawking puts it) by harnessing the full power of the wonderful gift of nature that human possesses: Intellect. Since in ancient days human didn't develop the mental faculty of pursuing knowledge and truth through reasoning/ observation/scientific methodology, meditation/ prayer was the only means of resorting to this urge to experience and be close to nature, and this has continued in a vestigial way up to this day specially by those who don't have the perseverance and are not intellectually prepared to pursue the route of seeking knowledge through scientific study or have a total blind faith in a given religion. B. Reasons rooted in illogical conclusions drawn from events in Life: 4). Recovering from a serious illness or problem. Seems to be too unlikely without a divine intervention. Human instinct is not to accept randomness and chance factor in nature, but instead to find meaning in everything, a meaning that helps to give one an illusion that he/she is not just any product of nature, but something special that is being watched over. And hence the need to invent a personal God. 5). Sudden acquisition of wealth and happiness when subconsciously realizing that he/ she didn't really deserve it. Rather than treat it as a pure chance/luck there is an inherent desire to thank Someone/ Something for this fortune for being "Chosen" by that Someone/Something for such special favour and hoping that by expressing gratitude to that Someone/Something, He/It will protect him/her from losing this sudden unexpectedly gotten material happiness. It is an interesting irony that one person's good fortune convinces him/ her about the existence of God whereas millions of humans routinely face misfortunes which should have provided more forceful reasons to the contrary. After all, the existence of God cannot be justified by one person's fortune. C. Reasons rooted in Social Needs: 6). A desire to have a sense of belonging. It is a human instinct to be part of a bigger whole out of a sense of insecurity and a need of a social safety net This is also rooted in our animal ancestry where packing instinct is observed. Religion offers that sense of belonging and community feeling through church/mosque/temple etc where people congregate and share fellow feeling and through religious based social/ cultural festivals/activities. This reason explains adherence to religion as a custom, not God as a belief. All of the above really point to a belief caused by a "need" , not a belief that results from a genuine and dispassionate endeavor for seeking the truth. Also there is a myth about "explaining" all the inconsistencies/contradictions that exist in a religion (in its scripture,revelations,tenets) when it is pointed out by critical thinkers to a blind believer of a religion. One who has formed a belief blindly, can in no way objectively and critically form an "explanation". Their explanation will necessarily be an effort to justify and explain ( to their convenience) what they already have placed blind faith in unconditionally. Any explanation, which is only for consumption by the members of that same faith and does not convince any one else hardly qualifies as a rational explanation but merely serves as a placebo to the members to assuage their doubts and as a form of artificial affirmation. Even those believers who are often bothered at first by some inconsistencies surrender to some perceived "scholars" in religion to do the explaining for them so they can rest assured with no doubts in mind. They will not try to critically examine the merit of those explanations as they are merely seeking a POST HOC affirmation of their a priori absolute faith and are just content with the fact that someone with a much higher "scholastic" mind (scholasticism limited to divinity that is) is doing the explanation which they are desperately in need of for the affirmation of something they have staked their belief in, and would rather not face upto any serious inconsistencies of their faith and retract from it as the resulting disenchantment would be devastating to their emotional psyche . Oftentimes believers in blind faith respond to critics of their blind belief (atheists/agnostics/ freethinkers) saying their critics are biased themselves and their disbelief in the blind faith is itself due to their bias against the believers. One has to be very careful here. Atheists/ skeptics/agnostics exist BECAUSE OF blind believers and NOT the other way around. It is the constant claims and persuasive attempt to force the belief on others that created the skeptics/atheists etc as a counter reaction. Believers of blind faith do so out of a need and has great stake in the preservation and propagation of the perceived truth of his/her belief and hence would defend any criticism of it without caring to judge the merit of the criticism. On the other hand a disbeliever of a blind faith has nothing to gain just by not believing and criticizing any claims of truth of the blind faith holders. His/her non-belief is a result of the analytical thinking preventing him/her from accepting a belief irrationally just because they are being told so. Far from gaining anything from the non-belief they rather take on potential risk of back lash by the blind believers as well as depriving themselves from the pleasant feelings generated by the blind belief. Anything that has a rational basis will never be rejected/criticized by a rational person. On the other hand a rational person can sometimes have a blind faith (until conclusively proven wrong by evidence and logic) and will honestly admit that the blind belief is due to a wishful desire and since it has not been proven wrong by evidence or logic might as well believe in it (But not trying to propagate it through imposition on others). So the bottom line is that a rational person who decides not to believe in a blind faith can never do so out of any bias. Check the link at htp://www.skeptic.com/990126.html for an interesting debate on belief in GOD and the link http://www.world-of-dawkins.com/religion.htm for an interesting view of a scientist on the belief in religion. For another interesting review of a talk by an Indian doctor on God vs. human brain check http://www.godless.org/sci/ramachandran.html D. Last but not the least, Reasons rooted in the evolutionary history and neurophysiology of Human: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the view of the origin of religious belief at the most fundamental level. A revolutionary understanding of cognitive science pioneered by Noam Chomsky and other linguists and cognitive scientists was that the instinct of language is ingrained universally in human brain that enables a child to learn a language instinctively without being taught. The fact that religious (or more appropriately mystical) feelings are also quite universal and appears independently in different cultures and is a universal phenomena. That points to a possible similar neurophysiological root of religious belief. There seems to be an inbuilt mechanism in nature to evolve a defensive system in the face of new challenges for survival and propagation. It is plausible that belief in religion came about due to an evolutionary process necessitated by the appearance of consciousness in human species. Due to this consciousness human were able/forced to wonder if there is life after death, developed the yearning for not to die and the yearning to not let their dear ones die. These desires and yearnings are not the usual necessary ingredients of the two key elements of evolution, viz, random mutation and natural selection for survival, but are an unexpected feature of human species. Due to this new element of consciousness human species needed a new factor in the survival of the species process besides mutation and natural selection. Belief in religion and faith is this new element. Without a belief in life after death, or in GOD's existence suddenly the driving force of life for humans with limited intellect would seem to disappear and there would be total chaos and anarchy and eventual destruction of human species. Since lower animals don't have the consciousness to even worry about death or life after death they go about leading their normal life cycle (eating, living, propagating etc) whereas for human this awareness creates a need for a driving force (meaning of life) to continue the normal life cycle without major disruptions. So the belief in religion was an inevitable outcome of the emergence of consciousness in full form ( intelligence) in the human species. It is also the speculation of sociobiologists that faith/religion provide a valuable tool of survival in the cultural evolution. It creates a strong cohesive force among the members of a given faith and increase their collective odds of achieving longevity as a group. There is also another survival aspect of religious belief, which is: The most successful religion (measured by number and/or growth rate) is not necessarily the one which is true or best in an objective sense but which is the most successful in maintaining cohesion among its followers and gives them advantage over the other religions. It is possible that this successful religion may commit wrongful acts on the other less successful religion/ faith. My above views would find support in the writings of early philosophers as well as recent anthropolgists/biologists. John Fiske, the American philosopher said in his 1899 book "Through nature to GOD" : Would it not be strange if suddenly, after humans crossed the magic threshold to speech and self- awareness, the appearance of religion in all primitive cultures would have had no survival value? (From p-381, The Whys of a Philosophical scrivener - Martin Gardner). Anthropologist Lionel Tiger says "Religion probably has a genetic basis. To guard against the paralysis of deep depression. When facing the inevitability of death, natural selection responded to this problem by wiring into our brain a moderate propensity to embrace sunny scenarios even when they are not supported by the facts" (p-381, Gardner). Another anthropologist Pascal Boyer makes a similar point in his book: "The Naturalness of Religious Ideas. For an excellent on line article on the Biological roots of religious belief check the site http://www.SecularHumanism.org/library/fi/hunt_19_3.html In the recent book: "The God Part of the Brain", Philosopher of Science Matthew Alper proposes that beliefs in God, the afterlife, mind-over- matter and superstitions have a physiological origin and may be encoded into human DNA, evolved as a defense mechanism to help people cope with the anxiety that comes from being aware of our own mortality. This explanation of religious faith is not new. The new thing is that Alper has made the most convincing and irrefutable case so far of this view which is based on the results of the latest research on neurology and sociobiology coupled with Darwinian metaphysics. It has got rave reviews from sociobiologists and philosophers. Readers are finding it hard to refute it. One reader got too carried away in his review (under Barnes and Nobles website) and wrote : "The Birth of a New Science: Neuroreligion. All 6 billion plus inhabitants of Earth should be in possession of this book. Matthew Alper's tome should be placed next to the sacred writings section in the libraries, bookstores and dwellings throughout the world. Matthew Alper is the new Galileo. (Watch your back Matthew!).." For an online glimpse of the premise of Alper's work see http://www.godpart.com/premise.html Modern neurological research also points to a purely neurophysiological cause of all religious mystical experiences. Here's an article http://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/9/3/498 that typifies the modern view from neurological research. For an insightful tour of human mind and the biology of religion refer to the book " Mystical Mind: Probing the Biology of Religious Experience" by Neurophysiologist and psychiatrist Eugene D' Aquilli , and last but not the least the monumental tome with 844 pages: "Zen and the Brain" written by Dr. James Austen, a Neurophysiologits from the Academia who has also practiced Zen meditation himself. All point to a neurophysiological basis of all mystical and religious experiences. Finally, there is also an inner instinct to have a father figure in life providing an imagined guidance and inspiration and a sense of need to be subordinate to such an entity and be protected by and accountable to (As symbolically expressed in genuflection during prayer, prostration etc). In real life this manifests itself in the need to have big brother, a father or a leader. This part of human instinct is also derived from our animal ancestors. Even animals display this submissive posture to the superiors (Dogs to humans, subordinate animals to the leader of their pack etc). The primitive human worshipped imaginary powerful beings identified with thunder, fire, mountain etc (Anything that projects power higher than human). with increased understanding about nature and more control over it human needed some other powerful entities to replace those. Since nothing on earth seems to be too powerful and beyond human control so human had to invent some imaginary super being to be subordinate and accountable to and protected by. Let me end with a relevant quote from Einstein: "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own-a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his own body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." (Made in 1932, appeared in the book, The Quotable Einstein, page-150) 4. DOES RELIGION DEFINE MORALITY? It is the common claim of religious believers that sense of right and wrong can only come from religion/God/spirituality and that anyone secular is devoid of any moral virtue. So by their criterion it follows that scientists/philosophers who hold secular beliefs or are atheists have no virtue at all and virtues are monopoly of religious believers only. It must be emphasized that Theists declare it as a rule that " Morality cannot be enforced/defined without religion" whereas Humanists/ rationalists never declare it as rule that "morality can ONLY be defined/enforced WITHOUT religion. They only affirm that morality is POSSIBLE independent of religion, and that immorality is also possible WITH religion. So even if there exists immorality among some atheists or some secular society that does not change the fact that morality in some other non- religious society/individual can also and do exist, and similarly even if there exists morality in some religious society/ individual that does not change the fact that immorality in another religious individual/society can and do exist despite religion. Let me summarize my points as follows: 1. One exception breaks a rule. 2. Theists declare it as a rule that "Morality cannot be enforced/defined without God of the religion" 3. There are moral societies (e.g societies based on Buddhism) and individuals not based on God of the religion. Thus rule 2 is broken. First let me state an incontrovertible fact - that there are theists who commit immoral acts and there are conscientious non theists who behave morally. This fact already shows a basic weakness of the view that religion has monopoly on morality. Theists might say that "if a person was a TRUE follower of religious belief, then he/ she would not have committed any immoral act and the fact that a "theist" committed an immoral act only proves that his/her conviction in religion is not strong or sincere." Whether or not they were true believers in religion the fact still remains that they were not "non-theists". And since there are "non-theists" who also behave morally so the immediate conclusion is that religious belief is not a necessary prerequisite for being moral. There are those who say "Only strict adherence to religious injunctions/scriptures can guarantee a peaceful society, free from crime, oppression, injustice etc. And any violent and extreme acts of radical followers of the religion is discounted by saying that they are not true followers of religion and true followers of religion would never have engaged in such acts. The flaw in these assertions is that it can be simply argued that strict adherence to the law of the land is adequate to ensure peace. And if everyone followed the rule of law then that would suffice to make a society free from crime and injustice. The fact that a strict theocratic state has less crime is not because people are so conscientious through deep belief in the true spirit of religion that they refrain from wrong doings but because severe punishments by the theocratic state machinery are enforced and serve as powerful deterrents. In other words it is not primarily a fear of God that helps to prevent crime in a theocratic state, but a fear of human. Had there been any slack in the enforcement of law or if left to the people's religious conscience then those societies would be full of crimes and all sorts of immoral acts. The theocratic system of laws did not succeed in eliminating the evil instincts in the heart of the followers, only succeeded in putting a lid on it with the potential for that lid to rupture any time as is sometimes reported in those societies. On the other hand those secular non- theocratic states who have managed to enforce the civil laws effectively also are free from crimes, example is Singapore, Communist China ( Before the openness). In fact it is ironically true that , autocracy in any form helps to enforce law in any society. Since theocracy is a form of autocracy it tends to give one an illusion that it is religion that is ensuring the peace in the society, where in fact it is the draconian enforcement by humans of a (theocratic) authoritarian rule which which is responsible. If one thinks carefully It will be evident that religious injunctions actually REAFFIRM what humans already intuitively know to be wrong or right through the faculty of conscience. CONSCIENCE is as much a part of inherent human instinct like any other . Like all human instincts it is rooted in the evolutionary biology of human over millions of years. Natural selection (acting on the profound laws of Physics over a long span of time) gives rise to those human instincts that help in its survival and propagation as a species. In more modern biological language, conscience is the inhibiting effect of our cerebral cortex on the primitive impulses coming from our reptilian part of the brain ( limbic system). It has been observed quite extensively by psychologists and neurologists that a serious damage to the cerebral cortex impairs the judgment faculty of humans and a conscientious person can become less conscientious while still functioning normally otherwise. These primitive instincts are also biologically rooted and are traced to the biological imperatives of aggression, dominance, mating and propagation needed for evolutionary survival. For lower animals only these baser instincts are necessary for their survival and they didn't evolve conscience (no highly developed cerebral cortex). Only humans evolved this faculty as evolution "chose" (randomly of course) humans to the most evolved species. Human species has the highest Encephalization Quotient (E. Q = 7) which is a measure of how large the brain is compared to the size that is required for a basic survivial. Humans are not limited to the basic survivial impulses of lower animals, but have memory, experience and knowledge all aquired through the extra amount of brain (mostly cerebral cortex) that helps him to judge his surroundings and make informed decisions, sometimes in contradiction to the basic urges. So the assertion that morality is not rooted genetically is also not in accord with the contemporary view of biology. Our instinct of conscience developed long before the the relatively recent arrival (in evolutionary terms) of revealed religions, so stating that conscience ( or sense of right and wrong) is a result of God's revelation is an anachronism. The revealed religions of Islam and Christianity came long after the Greeks already were familiar with and discussing the concepts of morality. All aspects of morality that religion preaches had been taught by Confucius, Buddha, and other ancient sages in different civilizations independent of divine preaching of morality. Besides it contradicts simple common sense that if indeed God was the only source of morality then the complexity of human brain and its evolution and its well known role in judgment faculty would be totally redundant and unnecessary. After all God could just instill that faculty without this unnecessary structural complications in our brain which is known to affect our judgement faculty and hence sense of morality. We can see there is an inherent fallacy in basing right and wrong on a divine entity. For example the usual explanation of religion declaring some action "X" as wrong (X= rape/stealing/murder etc) is that God, as the source of all righteousness cannot allow such an evil act "X" to be committed. Why is "X" evil? Here a satisfactory answer is not possible. Any attempt to explain why "X" is evil will defeat the premise that an evil is what God decrees as evil. So according to the religious believers, ultimately an evil is what God "decides" to be evil ( criterion for such decision is supposedly unknown to human). There is no human criterion that can explain why something is evil. In other words to be consistent they have to admit they cannot explain in human terms why rape/ murder/theft etc are evil other than saying that it is only evil because it is declared so by God. By the same token if these acts were allowed and declared moral then to be consistent a blind follower of revelations could not have challenged that and accepted them blindly to be moral as declared by God, he/ she would not need any justification/explanation in human terms as to why these acts are allowed or declared moral. But in reality if an apologist of religion is asked as to why these "evils" are not allowed, invariably the answer will be "God can never allow such acts since they are evil". So unwittingly they engage in circular reasoning and betray their own instinctive human perception of right and wrong in defending why these acts are not allowed by God. if things are neither right nor wrong independently of God's revelations, then God cannot choose one thing over another because it is right. An apologist might argue, for example, that God would never condone such killing, raping, stealing, and torturing, for God is all good. But if goodness is a defining attribute of God, then God cannot be used to define goodness, for, in that case, the definition would be circular - the concept being defined would be doing the defining - and such a definition would be useless. Hence at the root of all these conceptual contradictions is the deeply rooted human instinctive notion of right and wrong (conscience) independent of God's revelation which a theist invariably appeals to when arguing about morality and its divineness as we saw above. So this instinctive notion of morality must be more fundamental and precede any belief in revelations and thus debunks the claim of theists that concept of morality can only be rooted in religion. Religion seems to provide a deterrent by the threat of punishment in hell and reward of heaven to naive minds. But the same can be and is achieved in any civilized society by the civil laws. The reason a person with no strong conscience does not commit a rape in public is NOT because it is forbidden in religion BUT because he will be arrested immediately and thrown to jail or sent to death row. In old days, in some societies, laws and penal codes were not established or effectively enforced and integrated as part of Government/State machinery as it is now. So in those societies religious injunctions were the only deterrent against such uninhibited acts of "wrong" . In societies where there were other human methods of checks and balances this concept of divine arbiter to settle morality was not relevant or necessary. For example a large population of the world are Buddhist society. Buddhism is based on Godless morality. Even before Buddhism the morality of ancient Chinese was based (and to a great extent is still based) on the teachings of Confucius which in turn is based on human values, not divine. Even the ancient Incas and Mayas had evolved a highly organized society without the help of a revealed religion. Good people do good because they want to do good - not because they will personally benefit from it or because someone has forced them to do it. People who do good solely for personal gain or to avoid personal harm are not the ideal good people. Someone who saves a drowning child, for example, only because he was offered a reward or was physically threatened does not deserve much praise. Thus, if one's only reason for performing good actions is his/her desire to go to heaven or his/her fear of going to hell - if all his/her actions are motivated purely by self interest - then ideally it should not qualify him/her for heaven because he/she acted out of pure self-interest and hence not a good person worth the reward, since heaven is for truly good people, who would be selfless. Thus the the religious concept of heaven/hell and morality leads to a contradiction. Besides, the threat of divine punishment cannot impose a moral obligation, for might does not make right. Threats extort; they do not create a moral duty. Thus, if our only reason for obeying God is the fear of punishment if we do not, then, from a moral point of view, God has no more claim to our allegiance than Hitler or Stalin. Morality then literally becomes an unquestioning compliance of divine commands. As mentioned earlier religious believers assert that a secular/Godless person has no sense of virtue or right or wrong. Hence according to their views, followers of philosophies (Buddhism, Confucius, Shamanism, Shintoism, Bahai etc, none of which believes in God or divinity of any kind) do not have or are capable of forming the judgment of right or wrong. But in reality these people do indeed show sense of right and wrong. and are just as capable of private moral behavior as theists. Thus belief in a certain God does not seem to be a prerequisite. It is true that some universal moral standards are required for the proper functioning of society. But it is incorrect to assume that God/ religion is the ONLY or BEST possible source of such standards. Early and medieval Philosophers such as Plato, Kant, John Stuart Mill, George Edward Moore, and John Rawls did make convincing arguments that it is possible to have a universal morality without God and we see this is true in practice in any societies not based on revealed religions. Morality/virtue etc is an evolving personal and group code of conduct that seem to reflect the most efficient way of maintaining personal and group stability and peace in a community of people with clash of interests and values. Morality is a product of natural selection through trial and error, guided and dictated by the fundamental laws of nature at work. This is easy to understand since after all, human species itself is a product of evolution via natural selection, so morality, which is an integral part of human species must also necessarily be part of that same natural laws at work. So even if religions had not been revealed or emereged by whatever means, human species would come up with some forms of moral code by some alternate mechanism. Thats what evolution (laws of nature fundamentally) mandates for human species. Morality is part of simply being human, whether or not one believes in a higher personal God of the religion or spirituality. Human beings have proven themselves capable of devising and then abiding by their own rules independent of religious decrees ( As the examples I have cited earlier show), within which an individual or society can pursue their varied interests with differing values yet maintain general peace and stability, then there is no longer any need to posit any perceived higher moral authority. The Universal Declarations of Human Rights is one such example of the reflection of the common shared moral values of humanity. Only when someone posits a law higher than what is already agreed to by humanity solely on the basis of common sense perception of what is good and effective for humanity, need any questions be raised --for it is only THEN that an explanation or justification of such a moral base is necessary. The burden of proof belongs on the one who steps outside the ordinary and common sense way in which morals are derived --not on the one who continues to keep his or her morals, values in conformity with that democratically established. 5. ON THE FREE WILL DEFENSE AGAINST ARGUMENT FROM EVIL One of the most damaging argument against the existence of God is the argument from evil, which says the presence of evil (Both natural and moral) implies lack of omnibenevolence, a defining attribute of God and thus contradicts God's existence.The usual response to that by apologists has been the free will defense, which briefly says that free will requires evil, thus God still exists but allows evil for the sake of free will of humans. Here I wish to engage in a critique of the free will defense by theist against the argument from evil. The words omnipotent = all-powerful, omniscient = all-knowing and omnibenevolent = all compassionate are attributes often applied to God, that he is all-powerful, knows all that can be known and is infinitely compassionate. We are often told that God knows all things throughout the entirety of time and space. Everything that can be known, he knows. Everything in the past, present and future is known to God. And he is all compassionate. I will argue that all these attributes run into conflict with the notion of free will unless at least one of the attributes are sacrificed. Religion says that God gave us free will, so that we may make our own decisions, decide our own futures, with no coercion from God. Whether we do good things or bad things is entirely up to us, God just sits back and watches over us knowing ahead of time (through omniscience and prescience) each and every action that we will do. The problem is if God knows today what we will do tomorrow, then we cannot do anything other than what God knows we will do tomorrow, otherwise he will be wrong and not be omniscient. But then if could npt do anything other than what Go already knows then where is the free will? If God knows what someone will do in future then that implies that something (by God or any other factor) must have determined what that person will do. Free will only makes sense if one can choose one action from several possible ones solely based on his/her own will. But we just saw that only one action can be chosen, the one that God knows today that we will actually do tomorrow, and no other. So free will does not exist in its strict definition. In other words if you truly have free will then you should be able to do something that even God cannot know ahead of time. True free will should have the ability to prove even's God knowledge of one's future action to be wrong. But such free will then is obviously incompatible with another attribute of God, viz omniscience. So either way a logical contradiction arises. Secondly if God knows ahead of time that someone will commit an act of evil in future because of omniscience then that implies that God is not omnibenevolent for not preventing that person from committing the evil. If not preventing someone from committing evil even when knowing ahead of time that the evil will be committed is considered to be the right thing to for God for the sake of free will then the same must be true for humans. SO that would imply that A should not prevent B from committing an evil, since that will interfere with the freewill of B. But that is not considered morally good for humans. So omniscience and free contradicts omnibenevolence of God and leads to moral contradiction for humans. As a last attempt to resolve this inconsistencies of attribute of god with one can argue, well, god can actually through omnipotence, endow himself with omniscience or rob himself of it if and whenever he chooses to, in other words, he has the switch which he can turn on and off at will to gain or loose omniscience anytime. And for our freewill to work he CHOSE to be not omniscient about our lives. Omnipotence allows god to become omniscient if an when he choses to, and hence these both attributes are not really incompatible. Now leaving aside the question as to how the one who argues that way came to know about this remarkable switch of God, let us instead examine this argument more closely. Let's say god decided to turn the switch on so he indeed became omniscient. So God now knows everything about the future of anyone, anything. But suppose now he wanted to change the future of someone. Can he do it? NO! because if he could then in that case his knowledge about the future of that person just before he changed that person's future would be wrong, which would cause God to loose omniscience. In other words, God CANNOT as a choice turn the switch of omniscience on AND change someone's future while preserving omniscience. So God looses omnipotence in that case for not being able to exercize this particular sequence of choices. So the contradictions between these two attribute cannot be removed by this switching of omniscience clause. Now let us discuss and debate the usual arguments of Free Will Defense of Theism. Theists posit that God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent. The argument from evil (AE) against the existence of God can be summarized as : 1. God is omniscient, omnibenevolent, omnipotent. 2. God being omniscient, knows the existence of evil. 3. God being omnibenevolent, has the intention of eliminating the presence of evil. 4. God being omnipotent, can eliminate the presence of evil. 5. From 2,3 and 4, we can deduce that the presence of God imply the absence of evil. 6. There IS evil. 7. From 5 & 6,therefore,we deduce that God as defined in (1) does not exist. The usual response of the religious apologetics against the above argument from evil by skeptics is the free will defense, summarized as : Free Will Defense (FWD) of theism against AE : 1. God had two choices : create beings 1-a)with free will or 1-b) without free will (law of excluded middle). 2. The creation of beings with free will who can commit evil (1-a), is BETTER than creation of beings without free will (1-b), who can only commit good 3. God always does what is BETTER i.e choose (1-a) 4. Therefore, in view of 2 and 3 above, God cannot but create beings with free will with the capacity to commit evil. Unfortunately, this defense makes three critical mistakes. The first mistake, which is the most obvious, is the assumption that free will is better then the capacity to do no evil. It is rather difficult to agree with the idea that all the evils that man has ever committed are all justified by the freedom of free will and the trade off between free will and evil is that obvious. Only very few who has never suffered the consequences of evil or are themselves perpetrators of evil can say without any qualm that free will (with a baggage of capacity for evil) is preferable to no free will (with no baggage of capacity for evil), since they are the biggest beneficiaries of free will, not the victims. Another argument by defenders of free will argument is that without freewill and the ability to choose evil human becomes becomes like a robot. But then calling a perfect human a "robot" is a personal subjective use of a label. By the same token if all humans with free will abided by the rules of God (Which God wishes anyway) and and didn't commit any wrong then they would equally well become robots. Just like robots obey the computer commands, humans would obey the divine commands. There is no profound difference between the two. By that logic all humans will become robots in heaven since no evil will exist there. Besides there is an inherent inconsistency in the concept of a perfect being (GOD) crafting an imperfect product (human). Imperfect products can only come from imperfect designer. Finally the word " better" in (3) above is being argued by humans (apologists). How are they to know what God thinks is better?. They are judging better in a post hoc fashion, i.e predicting a cause from the effect! If humans had not committed any wrongs then the post hoc logic could have been changed to, God being perfect is not allowing anyone to commit any evil. So this kind of defensive reasoning by humans for God is convenient and self serving to justify a foregone conclusion. God never himself argued this way justifying evil (either in Koran or Bible or anywhere). A human can never know what God wants or thinks and argue on God's behalf unless God says it himself in any revelation. The word "BETTER" above is a highly subjective judgment call and only favours those who can benefit from a free will with capacity for evil. Also another tacit assumption is that without evil there is no good. That without the potential to commit evil there would be no meaning of good and no one would appreciate what good is. And since evil is committed through the exercise of free will hence free will is necessary for evil which is necessary for the meaning of good. This kind of argument about the "logical" impossibility of the absence of evil has been formulated elegantly by philosopher Platinga. But Platinga's contention is like an astute lawyer defending his client by clever reasoning who may not believe in his client. Platinga's argument does little to prove the notion of God as envisaged in religions. It only allows a logical possibility of God with those atrributes that can be allowed by human logic, so effectively renders "God" a notion to play with by logicians Anyway, we are interested in the notion of God of the traditional religions. Then the question arises why does God instruct human not to commit evil and to do good and threaten punishment for non-compliance and reward for compliance? Obviously not all human will commit good, if they did then evil would not exist, and the meaning of good will cease to exist. So for the meaning of good to exist and for human to appreciate it some evil must be committed. So God has to make sure that some do commit evil. So on one hand God is instructing all to commit good and stay away from evil and at the same time he is required to maintain some evil to make the sure the concept of good survives for human so as to inspire them do it. In that case blaming/punishing human for committing very same evil that is required to be committed to maintain the value and meaning of good for others would be a logical contradiction for a perfect/ omnipotent/omniscient/omnibenevolent God. An omniscient God would know all the crimes and wrongs to be committed by anyone ahead of time (omniscience implies prescience) and in that case expressing anger (as reflected in many verses of Koran and Bible referring to punishment in Hell) after it is committed while knowing beforehand that it was coming is contradictory to omnibenevolence. Furthermore if one insists that some evil is essential for good to exist, then that implies that evil should not be prevented, only reddressed. So it is imperative that a disease be not prevented, only treated. Similarly it becomes imperative not to prevent occurrence crime, but reddress it (punish,condemn) after it has happened, because prevention would make evil non-existent and thus render "good" meaningless. So we see that this argument for evil as essential for "good" leads to a contradictory situation. So God as envisaged in the revealed religions suffers from two inherently contradictory desires, which is not consistent with the attributes of a perfect being. Besides if good and happiness requires the existence of evil and suffering then why is there no evil and suffering in heaven which is supposed to be a place of perfect goodness and happiness? Most importantly, is it consistent with an omnibenevolent being to require that evil be committed on children, innocent men and women (after all evil is defined as wrongs perpetrated on the innocent, not on the wicked) just so that the victims ( if they survive) or those who were spared can appreciate the good? It violates all common sense and any moral standards that one can conceive of. Some apologists say "Well, God' s intentions are beyond human comprehension, standards and common sense", but that's an assertion of no substance, because if God's intentions is truly beyond human comprehension then one can say nothing about God, one way or the other and the apologists (who are human) have no basis of defending God either or to contradict what their opponents are saying. Moreover this kind of reasoning has inherent inconsistencies. One cannot make an argument based on ignorance of facts. The whole point of this debate is to refute or prove that God exists. Now one cannot refute the argument which says that God cannot exist because of the incompatibilities of the various attributes that define God by arguing that "God" works in mysterious ways!. "God works in mysterious ways" assume God exists which was supposed to be proven in the first place. More importantly one cannot start out with logic trying to prove God exists and give up logic halfway and appeal to "mysterious" logic to arrive at the conclusion that God exists. One could as well have started out with the conclusion that God exists, and that would have as much validity as invoking a mysterious working halfway. Mysterious logic can be made to arrive at any conclusion by either side. The second mistake is the tacit assumption that free will necessarily entails a choice of evil, ie. if we have free will then it is impossible to avoid evil altogether, free will must involve choice of either good or evil. Thats how the apologists explain the presence of evil as an inevitable consequence of free will. But thats a fallacious presupposition. Free will is the capacity to choose. A choice is picking between many options. By saying that free will necessarily entails evil they are implying that our options are limited to either good, or evil, that a choice only between many goods are not possible, i. e there cannot be more than one good options. But we know thats not true. We come across many situations where there can be two good options along with one or more evil options. So free will can entail choices between good. What is really an important prerequisite of free will is the FREEDOM to choose from whatever choices are given to us, period. What choices are given to us do not determine the freedom. So evil as a choice is not essential for freedom. Even with presence of free will we don't have the choice of doing many things. We can't choose to make ourselves disappear, or to fly or float in the air without any mechanical aid. If we can retain free will even without such abilities then surely we can retain our free will even if deprived of the evil options. If God is all-powerful, then why does he not eliminate all the evil options and only provide good/neutral options to choose from using free will?. He could have provided options between goods of varying degrees and/or neutral (i.e which doesn't benefit or harm). Since evil do exist then either God if he exists, is not all- powerful or he does not want to see evil disappear. In that case he(God) cannot be all compassionate. We can also imagine many scenarios in which free will is compatible with an omnipotent God and no evil. For instance, God could use magical power to "physically restrain" those who intend to commit evil. Perhaps they would find it frustrating, like the repulsive force between two magnets, he could feel a repulsive force restraining him to do the evil, but their "free will" to do harm would nevertheless remain intact. After all free will is a subjective mental perception. As long as one can feel in their mind that they can make a will without interference then free will exists, regardless of whether the will is actually fulfilled or not. But since such magical prevention of evil does not happen then again that proves that an omnipotent God if exists cannot be omnibenevolent. Let us further analyze free will (or its absence) carefully. It seems that the manner in which humans are endowed with freewill is contradictory to the concept of fairness (Another necessary attribute of a perfect God). If right or wrong choices by humans were made under conditions that humans had complete choice on then it is understandable that humans could be held accountable for their choices. But we know that the acts that people choose to do are very much dictated by their minds/personalities which in turn are dictated by their genetic inheritances and the effect of environmental stimulus on the neural connections in their brain that occurs since birth, both of which an individual has no choice on. If genetic plus environmental influence makes one more prone to commit an evil then he/she would have to struggle harder to stay away from it (or maybe impossible to stay away from it in case the influence is so deep that he/she cannot even judge right and wrong and views morality as blind rules imposed unfairly by society and religion) whereas in a human whose genetic+ environmental influence made him/ her less prone to commit evil and more prone to do right then it would require much less effort to stay away from evil (As it comes "naturally" regardless if morality is set by society or religion). So there IS some element of programming in human nature and hence there can be no true 100% free will. A true free will which enables one to choose right from wrong would make sense if all humans were born with a clean slate that can only be written with conscious choice at each step, in other words if they had the choice as to what personality/mind they could have. But genetic inheritance and environment's effect on the neural connections of the brain cells invariably makes the slate pre written and humans don't have any choice on how their personality/mind will evolve, instead it is decided for them by gene and environment by the time full consciousness develops in them. If God is to hold each human accountable for their acts at an individual level then it behooves him to endow more freedom to each human being than there seems to be. The third mistake of the FWD apologetics is the omission of natural evil (i.e epidemic, plague, earthquake, floods etc) that are not committed by human. If god exists, he made everything, including natural evils or has the capacity to prevent it. It is therefore an evil on his part to allow it. The Free Will Defense cannot justify this natural evil by their usual argument. Sometimes the natural evil is explained by saying that it is the punishment of God for the sins of human. Which human? The greatest casualty of all natural evils are mostly innocent children, women and men. The evil doers in most cases escape unhurt. The natural evils happen quite randomly and kill people with no selective bias. Good and bad people alike fall victims to it, a situation that can be nicely explained the absence of God and by nature' s random acts. The great Lisbon earthquake of 1755 killed the all the worshippers in the churches that gathered to commemorate the death of a noted saint, as well as many innocent women and children. But it spared many brothels. Another defense of the natural evil is that it is for a greater good. Good for whom? Not the millions who died? And when does the greater good take place? No greater good seem to have followed much of the natural disasters. Of course there can be some beneficiaries from the miseries of others. But is that compatible with an omnibenevolent God? Another response by the apologists are: "What we perceive as evil in this world is a result of our limited knowledge and these evils are part of a grander scheme of God and are not really evil, but part of a greater good that we can't see. God has reasons behind everything". Now in the name of " limited knowledge" these apologetics are asserting something that require extraordinary knowledge, like knowing that God has a reason behind all evil. A limited knowledge cannot lead to this profound assertion!. They are being inconsistent within themselves by saying this. Besides if we accept this argument on faith, then one can also argue back that what we perceive as good in this world can also be an illusion and can be part of a greater evil that we can't see with our limited knowledge. This argument is equally acceptable as a faith. So this kind of reasoning can be always applied no matter how much evil is observed. If evils only happened to wrong doers and innocents were always spared from suffering without exception then this kind of reasoning would immediately point to God's justice and fairness in action. In absence of such ideal situation the reasoning is modified and appeal is made to the limitations of human comprehension to justify the far from ideal situation of evil and a hidden reason behind it. This kind of reasoning is so opportunistic that it would always provide an explanation of any given reality, in favour of the benevolence of God irrespective of the amount of evil and suffering that is observed. Is there any level of evil and suffering that would convince a believer that God is not omnibenevolent after all? Certainly not, because the level we see now is already quite substantial and is consistent with the non- existence of God and a random act of nature. So it all boils down to believe in an omnibenevolent God first and then use all kinds of "post hoc" (after the fact) arguments to "explain" away the observed evil and suffering. So this apology also does not hold under close scrutiny and thus free will and the existence of evil by humans is incompatible with the concept of an omniscient/omnipotent/ omnibenevolent God. 6. SCIENCE, RELIGION AND FAITH Adapted from: MIXING SCIENCE WITH RELIGION (NFB, Oct 6 2000) SCIENCE IS NOT FAITH (NFB,Feb 8, 2001) We often see attempts by apologists of religions to link scientific facts and laws with verses of the scriptures and claim originality of their scriptures in arriving at the scientific truths. This is a flawed and disngenuous attempt. If one wishes to see science in anything they can "see" it there. Some "Joe Schmoe" might have said "All is relative" before Einstein's theory of relativity and could claim that he already knew about relativity theory and thus claim originality. Any vague phrase, puns, allegories, quotes etc by humans or scriptures can be customized and made to fit any scientific principle when that scientific principle is phrased in a very general way for popular consumption, hiding the underlying precise sense and detailed formulation of those scientific principles. By claiming these scientific principles were already contained in the revelations they deny the painstaking research that were behind the unravelling of the complex workings of the laws of nature and reality. None of the scientific discoveries were inspired FROM, dependent ON, or UTILIZED, any of the religious revelations. If religious revelations could not and did not lead to any of the discovery of these scientific truths in a stand alone way then by any criterion and logic they cannot claim originality on those scientific facts and principles. There are still many unanswered questions in the basic understanding of the universe. Why don't the verses of scripture throw any light on them? For example we don't know for sure at this time if the universe is closed, open or flat. No body has dared any prediction to that effect based on any revelation. But if the answer is ever found out by science it will not be surprizing if someone digs out some vague words of a verse from the scriptures of some religion and claim to "see" the answer there which science has finally managed to find. These claims are always made AFTER the fact. Religious "discoveries" always follow the scientific ones!. It has never been found to be otherway around. Is that just a coincidence? I don't think so. The late Nobel laureate Physicist Dr. Abdus Salam warned against people trying to explain Big Bang using verses from Koran, saying that the current version of Big Bang is the best known scientific explanation for the creation of the universe. What if a better scientific explanation than Big Bang is found tomorrow? Should the verses be changed to accommodate the new scientific view? Obviously not. Religious revelations are absolute directives and narratives for humans to follow as faith unquestioningly. Many revelations clearly contradict many accepted scientific principles. No scientist of any repute has ever tried to substantiate scientific principles by religious beliefs or vice versa. Most scientists and some sensible theologians would rather not mix faith with objective and rational field of science, because it is not possible to reconcile the two with honesty. Koran/Bible/Gita etc are not books of science. Any coincidental vague semblance between a verse and a popular phrasing of a complex scientific principle is solely due to the very general and vague wordings admitting of any interpretation that one chooses to impose on it. All one needs is some vague reverse fitting argument to connect the two. One can find Quantum Mechanics in Tagore's poems if they really insist by stretching theior inaginations, or relativity in the Buddhist Monk Nagarjun's writing. Just seeing what one wishes to see because of a preset belief in the revelations of a favoured religion doesn't make it true by any objective criterion. Religion is based on Faith and science is based on logic and evidence. Thus they are inherently incompatible. If faith could be validated by logic and evidence then it would not be labelled faith but a universal natural principle/phenomenon. The assertion that religious revelations contain scientific fact can never be justified by facts, evidences or logic, it is only a statement of faith stated as a claim. Some vague similarities between some verses and a scientific statement does not qualify for a proof or evidence that the verse is referring to that scientific statement. It should be noted that the mark of a genuine proof is a solid logic and incontrovertible evidence that lead to a consensus crossing all racial, ethnic and religious boundaries. That is not to say that a consensus is the only criterion of validity, but consensus which follows from a universally accepted logic, evidence and facts. A sound logic using facts as evidence only can validate any conclusion. A fact by definition is an incontrovertible observation based on sense perceptions (direct or indirect through sensitive instruments). That's why the laws of science are universal. We don't have an Islamic principle of Relativity, or a Hindu Quantum Mechanics or Christian Law of Evolution. All these scientific principles are convincing to scientists of all denominations. The logic and evidences speak for themselves, no belief in any religion is required for the acceptability of scientific principles. A majority of the scientists and theologians agree that science cannot be corroborated by religious revelations or vice versa. Only a handful of scientists (Almost all of them of questionable credentials, some with mediocre credentials) and zealous followers and apologists of religions seem to be obsessed by the effort to link the two. There are two approaches that apologists adopt in attempting to promote religion vis a vis science. In one approach they resign to the fact that science is widely accepted and successful tool for seekinmg truth and thus instead of challenging science they claim science as validating what is said in their scriptures, i.e that scripture is consistent with science. In the second approach they claim that scriptural sayings just confirm what has been found in science, i.e that science is consistent with the scriptures. In either approach they cite both the verses and the scientific facts in a very vague and general way, and then make a leap of argument to establish a putative connection between the two to amke theor point. Either approach leads to inconsistencies. In the former approach the flaw that is obvious is that they must assume the primacy of scientific truths over scriptural "truths", in other words scriptures take a secondary position in imporatnce to science, in order to validate scriptures by science. That is a self defeating and self-contradictory position to take for apologists who insist on the primacy of the scriptures. The flaw in the second approach is that for the scriptures to validate scientific truths, they have to be phrased in a scientific language unsing scientific terms and notions in a precise way that should be universal enough for all scientists to agree that the scriptures are stating a scientific ttruth or fact. Scientists have never agreed on the valididty of such a claim. The scriptures are quite vague to be considered scientific. Even if one insists that scriptural sayings are to be taken as a metaphprical refernce to scientific truths, the metaphorical references have still to be precise and accurate to represent science, like the popular nontechnical books on science written by scientists are. Scriptures are nowhere close to that. If a divine book was really a word of God, then such imprecision and vagueness is inexplainable, when a better non-technical yet accurate exposition of scientific truths have been written by non-religious scientists. There is another inherent inconsistency in this approach to validate religion by science. First, we know that in almost all religions this attempt is made. They are all equally convincing (or unconvincing, take your pick). The arguments by apologists of any particular relgion is not uniquely superior to that of another. So, there is no rationale to accept the reasoning of one religion over the other, on grounds of pure logic. Since all the religions are based on the assumption that the others are wrong (in the sense that their holy book is the only one containing the actual word of God) they cannot all be right. But since the reasoning used to validate revelations with science are no better in one religion than the other there is no basis of selecting one as right. Follower "A" of religion "X" will of course only accept the reasoning to link religion "X" with science. Follower "B" of religion "Y" will believe in the reasoning of religion "Y" to link their revelation with science and so on. A valid logic and evidence linking any religion with science should be accepted by ALL, i.e by any follower of any religion, or a skeptic/non-believer. But that obviously is not the case. So none of the reasoning in any of the religions are based on sound logic or argument. Now let me raise the issue of the need to assert the "perceived" link between religion and science. First of all, faith in a religious revelation is unconditional. One places faith in the revelations due to being born in that religion and due to reinforcements by society, surroundings and culture etc. (This is a good example of "meme" in action. One can read the idea of memes in Richard Dawkin's "The Selfish Gene" or Susan Blackmore's "The Meme Machine"). Some examples and references of various "A"s from various "Y" s trying to find science in their respective revelations will follow later in this post. Once one stakes an unconditional faith in their revelations, they have to look for confirmations, reinforcements of that faith. It is a self feeding mechanism whereby an apparent similarity between a revelation and science strengthens the faith which in turn motivates one to "search" for more similarities and the reinforcements add up in a runaway fashion, whereby a believer will go to a bizarre level of ludicrousness to reinforce their faith. Now if these attempts to validate religious revelations by science are made to convince others about the validity of the revelations then it is not succeeding. It is not convincing many of the moderate religious followers, let alone the skeptics. Majority of the scientists are not convinced (even for the religion that they are born into). Some of the few pseudo and mediocre scientists that do try to prove the truth of revelations with science do so out of some vested interests and some are actively funded and supported by wealthy religious organizations or individuals as a marketing ploy for their religions. Others quote the similarities in a metaphorical sense to inspire learning of science by arguing that science is encouraged by revelations. Although noble in intent, such attempts are flawed by any logical criterion. A motivation to pursue science is better obtained by exposing the young minds to the beauty of nature and universe through popular science books, movies, field trips etc. As promised earlier, here are references to some examples of attempts to validate (or reconcile) religious revelations with science covering a cross section of religions. I am excluding Islamic attempts since there are too many examples of that to pick just one or two. it is quite easy to come across them in various forums and almost in all the Islamic Websites that have proliferated. All the following appear quite convincing, but not enough to pass logical scrutiny to validate their respective revelations and make a skeptical person believe in them. If one has to accept the "reasoning" for the divineness of revelations any specific religion then in good conscience one has to accept the divineness of the others as well, since they are equally valid in their reasoning: 1. Genesis and the Big Bang : The Discovery of Harmony Between Modern Science and the Bible - Gerald L. Schroeder 2. The Science of God : The Convergence of Scientific and Biblical Wisdom - Gerald L. Schroeder 3. Thinking About Creation : Eternal Torah and Modern Physics - Andrew Goldfinger 4. Vedic Physics - Raja Ram Mohan Roy, Subhash Kak (For online details of this book see http://www.goldenpub.com/) 5. The Tao of Physics: An Exploration of the Parallels Between Modern Physics and Eastern Mysticism - Fritjof Capra [ A best seller first appeared in 1975 by a top Theoretical Physicist] 6. http://www.ozemail.com.au/~vsivasup/science/index.html (Modern Physics & Hinduism) 7. http://www.hvk.org/hvk/articles/articles/articles/0798/0043.html - A (Sankhya Philosophy & Physics) 8. http://www.saigon.com/~anson/vbud/vbpha014.htm (Science and Buddhism) 9. http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7348/physics_metaphysics.html Now let us focus on another aspect of science vs religion issue. Some relgious apologists instead of trying to validate religion through science or vice versa, dismiss science as inferior to (or as no better than) the religious route to seeking the truth. They propagate a fallacious view about about science and scientific methods. One of the common fallacies lies in the claim that science like religion is also based on "faith", and thus no better than religion. This fallacy can be summarized as: 1. Science is based on or requires faith. 2. Science has been proven right. 3. Religion-X is based on faith. 4. Religion-X being divinely ordained, is as good as or superior to man made science. 5. Hence by 1-4 above if science as an inferior method can be right, then Religion-X as a divine method MUST be right also (and that it will be proven right for the current non-believers in due time). I will address the fallacy of step 1 after addressing the fallacy in step 5. According to this logic, Religion-Y must also be right, since Religion-Y is also based on faith. Hence this logic proves that all relgion is valid, an uncomfortable conclusion for each individual religion, because they thrive on them being the only right one. In fact this logic makes any faith based creed or cult also right. Why stop at relgion?. What about the Dogan people of Mali? (check http://www.cyber-north.com/ufo/dogan.html, http://home.earthlink.net/ ~pleiadesx/chaptr5.htm). Their cult tells them that their saviour lord resides in DOG STAR (Sirius B in astronomical term), and so their faith is also right. I must mention for those who have not heard about these Dogan tribes, they are entitled to more legitimacy to their claims than any other religions, since they correctly predicted the existence of Sirius B even before it was astronomically detected by the astronomers of US Naval Observatory and they correctly predicted the orbital revolution period of dogstar around Sirius. Now I want to address the misconceptions about science and scientific method. To make a one line statement that "science is based on faith" is totally misleading and unconscionable, specially for a scientifically literate person, which some relgious apologists are. Quacks and pseudo-scientists often make such statements with impunity as they don't know or understand science. SCIENCE IS NOT FAITH. If a scientist ever uses the word "faith" he/she is using it in a metaphorical sense to imply a set of PREMISES/ASSUMPTIONS that underlie all scientific methods. Even allowing such usage of the word "faith", the very suggestion implicit in the assertion that scientific faith is no different from Religious faith is what constitutes the greatest fallacy. For the "faith" of science is a VERY DIFFERENT animal from the "faith" of Religion. The faith of science is a set of premises/assumptions as mentioned earlier based on OBJECTIVE criterion of symmetry, simplicity (using OCCAM's RAZOR) etc and of course OBSERVATIONS, all of which are independednt of racial/cultural/religious boundaries. These assumptions/ premises are agreed on (unless observations and logic contradict it) universally by scientists of all culture, race or religion who follow the scientific method. For example Euclid's geometry is based on some "faiths" (i.e axioms) which are agreed on universally, since these axioms are themselves universal and objective. It is the greatest acheivement of the last couple of centuries that scientific method has emerged that binds human thought in a universal way crossing the racial/religious/cultural divide helping to advance human species. To summarize, the "faith" of science is characterized by "universality" and "consensus". Whereas the "faith" of Religion is a biased one limited to its followers only, not characterized by universality and objectivity, or universal consensus. It is a "faith" rooted in a wishful thinking that suits one's personal desire and aspirations. A scientific "faith" is based on the desire to pursue the TRUTH, even when the truth is contrary to one's personal biases. The faith that is chosen is the one that is judged by objective criteria to have the highest likelihood of leading one to the OBJECTIVE TRUTH. So the scientific faith is not absolute but ad hoc and provisional and subject to revision unlike the religious faith which is based on the highest "feel good" effect and is usually a result of indoctrination and is absolute, not changeable. One is based on humility that is prepared to admit its flaws and willing to revise itself, the other on arrogant claim of absoluteness and infallibility. So what is this scientific method that I have been referring to? It is very relevant to this discussion and so let me summarize it: A scientific method in a nutshell is the process of using observations and logical reasoning, along with some plausible assumptions that are not in contradiction with any existing observation or scientific law, to formulate a tentative hypothesis/theory and then make predictions based on such a theory which is then tested/verified from evidence at which point the theory becomes a law. To summarize the steps, scientific method comprises of: 1. Observations. 2. Making some plausible assumptions(premises) based on objective criteria, like Occams' Razor (i.e symmetry, simplicity, beauty etc.) 3. Logical reasoning (Using mathematical analysis) 4. Formulation of a theory based on steps 1-3 and other established laws of science. 5. Prediction based on 3 and 4 6. Testing (i.e verify/falsify) the prediction by evidence which can be either through the results of experiments(repeatedly in a controlled setting) or through enough observations in nature. IF (Falsified) THEN go back to 2 and make a different set of plausible premises and continue from step 3 ENDIF 7. If step 6 is verified in more than one instance by evidence and observations then the theory is considered to be a law of nature. As a further check on its validity, steps 2-6 (observation, assumptions, reasoning, formulation of theory, prediction and its verification through evidence and future observations) are subjected to rigorous peer review crossing all cultural/racial/religious boundaries. All these steps are so objective that there is little scope of disagreement (except in step 2, and except errors that can be corrected) no matter which affiliation a scientist belongs to. Any sustained disagreement, if any between scientists are in the predictions whose conclusive verifications are yet to be found. The disagreement in the predictions are due to the fact the same observations can be used to arrive at different predictions by equally valid reasoning, but making different plausible assumptions. So both the scientists are following the scientific methods but can still be in disagreement. The final arbiter is experimental evidence if and when it is available. Evidence is not always available due to limitations of the technology when the required experiment or observation demands extremely high sensitivity. A point worth noting is that step #3 is not a static one. New mathematical techniques/theorems are discovered by mathematicians which allows scientists more advanced and alternate reasoning based on the same observations to arrive at alternate theories as well. A noteworthy point is that scientific method is an iterative and self- correcting method. i.e science has the built-in capacity to falsify itself and to rectify as well. It takes just one exception to invalidate a scientific theory. It is quite ruthless in this regard. It has to be, in order to filter out pseudoscientists and to ensure integrity of science. It takes a series of sustained verifications to validate a theory. A very important point to note is that to challenge or dismiss a scientific theory one has to follow the scientific method as well, i.e only scientists can falsify another scientist's theory. For a non-scientist to question and dismiss a scientific theory based on his/her cherished faith or bias is disingenuous and inconscientious (even more so if an established law is questioned). It is more disingenuous for a layman to make a statement like "Science CAN NEVER know that..." etc. It requires more scientific insight to declare what science cannot than to declare what science can. Some common fallacies that apply vis a vis science and faith are: 1. When religious apologists point to a disagreement between two scientists or groups of scientists and conclude "Since they(scientists) don't agree among themselves therefore science is wrong or incomplete". By thatconclusion they are implying that since religion does not suffer from such disagreements among the apologists, relgion must be right and complete. There are two flaws in such conclusion. First the fact that followers of a relgion do not differ much is a consequence of the simple fact that relgious faith is absolute, unquestioning, so by very definition, all relgious followers must agree on the tenets of their religion. So that fact can in no way offer an independent test for the validity of religion itself. Secondly, if scientists differ on some issue that doesn't nullify entire scoence or the scientific method. Differences can arise due to different premises being adopted by rival scientists. Usually such differences are common in new areas of research where there is plenty of room for revision through more observations and tests. Only further tests and observations can settle the issue. As I emphasized above science has the built in mechanism to self-correct and it is not possible to falsify science from outside of science. 2. When a blind believer says: "Science has its limit, it cannot answer all questions, therefore one has to look at religion to find the answers. The fallacy is that believing in something doesn't make it a knowledge. So answering a question purely based on faith and appeal to instinct or intuition doesn't constitute an answer to a question that science cannot answer. Science has limits because humans have limits. If science cannot enable humans to have access to any truth outside that limit, then neither can religion. If it could then humans would not have limit in the true sense. On the other hand it is only through science, which is dynamic, that humans can hope to expand that limit. A static relgion cannot do much in expanding the horizin of knowledge. 3. When a blind believer accuses Scientists/Science of arrogance and accusing them of claiming to know it all. On the contrary it is the scientists who base their entire pursuit on the premise that they can be wrong. Religious followers never admit the possibility of their being wrong. 4. Another fallacy is when a faith is claimed to be knowledge. True knowledge is verifiable (or more appropriately falsifiable) and requires critical thinking, evidence and observations. Faith does not need either except just a wish to believe and is not falsifiable/verifiable. When faith is claimed to be knowledge, what is meant is "divine" knowledge. But divine "knowledge" cannot really be called knowledge in the real sense of the term, because it is based purely on faith. Religious faith (Divine faith) has two parts. One part of that faith is believing in the existence of God and Life after Death. This part is a universal instinct not rooted in hearsay or indoctrination and bears a vague semblance to a scientific faith(premise), although still not the same. Humans from any background, race/culture/religion, theist/atheist/agnostic alike have this intuitive feeling of some unknown CAUSE of the universe and a desire for immortality (Who wants to die and who doesn't yearn to meet their departed loved ones?) The remaining aspects of divine "knowledge" (Like revelations, day of judgment, heaven/hell, contents of the holy book etc) is solely based on faith in a "chain of hearsay" and indoctrination. This chain can be symbolized in the form below: "Person "Pn" believes in Pn-1, who says that he believes in Pn-2 who says that he believes in Pn-3 who says that...... who SAID that he believed in P1 who said that God said to him that....(revelations)" (Where n is a number probably in the billions and P1 and Pn are separated in time by 1400/2000 years). The entire edifice of revealed religion and divinity is rests upon this chain of belief in hearsay starting from the belief in the original person P1. Of course a "historical" knowledge of what many important historical personalities between "Pn and P1" said or did or what important events occurred between the times of Pm and P1 (where m is less than n) that significantly affected the history and lives of later people in that chain can be called a divine knowledge, but that is more appropriately a historical knowledge. And one need not be a believer of such a faith to possess that historical knowledge. Believing in something cannot constitute a knowledge, unless the object of the belief is defined unambiguously and verified objectively resulting in a consensus that crosses all religious/cultural/ethnic boundaries. Unlike religion, science is not based on faith through indoctrination ("memes" in modern sociobiological parlance). Science is a genuine knowledge acquired through scientific method which I have described above. It is not a dogma that clings to its veracity doggedly like religion. 7. MYTHS & FALLACIES OF RELIGIOUS APOLOGETICS Myths and contradictions of apologetics of religion: #1. That their Holy Book is "perfect" because it is the word of God. [ A perfect book should not suffer from flaws that only an imperfect book of human origin can suffer from. Some flaws that contradict perfectness: (One flaw is enough to render it imperfect):#2. That many verses of the Holy Book has to be judged in the light of its of its time when it was written and not judged by today's standards. [ Well, then it is certainly not a timeless book, which it should be if it has to be a perfect book as is claimed. If the Holy Book (or its certain verses) only makes sense or has relevance in a certain period of history for a certain group of people then it is by no means a perfect book written by perfect God. It is of no more significance than handbooks or folk wisdom of various cultures/sects/tribes. There are many books or wisdoms of ancient civilizations (Chinese, Greek, Mayan, Egyptians etc) that can also claim relevance for their times and contained many useful info and scientific facts as well, in equally vague manner. A perfect book has to apply for all times. Also if the purpose of the verses are to provide solutions to a problem specific to a time and a society, then it is failing as a perfect book, since a perfect book should apply for all times and for all of humanity. Yes, it is true that certain verses do exist that satisfy these requirements, but then a perfect book should not contain even a single verse with limited applicability in terms of time and society to which it applies.] #3. That all the criticisms by skeptics of negative verses in Koran are due to inaccurate translations or misleading interpretation. Koran is hard to translate as many verses are very subtle or complex and require great amount of knowledge in Arabic and Islamic background. The above can be better rephrased as: a). Koran is hard to understand. b). Arabic is a difficult language. c). It is difficult to translate Koran into other languages [ by a) and b) ] d). One has to be well versed in Islamic history and Tafseers (Interpretations of Quran by scholars) to fully understand Koran [First of all, (a) is contradicted by Koran itself. Verses 44.58, 54.17, 54.22 clearly says "we have made Koran easy to understand so they may pay heed". Now is there anyone to challenge that the above translation of the three verses is incorrect? (a) is also contradicted by the assertion in #1 that Koran is a perfect book. A perfect book cannot or should not be difficult to understand. (b) is contradicted by Koran since 44.58 also says that Koran was made easy to understand by revealing it in Arabic (Thy tongue). Secondly any language is not difficult to its native speakers, or to one who has learned it well enough to be professor of Arabic in a reputed university of an Islamic country. It can be hard for all others. So (b) is irrelevant since all the major translations of Koran were done by native Arab speakers or Arabic scholars. Now lets see the logic behind (c) and (d). Firstly, the believers who propagate these views cannot be any more knowledgeable in Arabic than the respected translators like Dawood, Shakir, Pickthall, Yusuf Ali to challenge their translations as inaccurate. And once the translations are accepted as accurate,it cannot represent a factual error. Of course a translation will not always carry the poetic, aesthetic and emotional appeal or value of the original, but even a mediocre translation certainly cannot reverse its objective meaning or alter any factual content which is what has to be done to a verse to make it look negative and thus controversial if it is not genuinely so. There is no reason for a perfect God to make its meaning so enigmatic and open to misinterpretations. Often when a verse is quoted in a religious discussion the common remark heard is "You have to read the " correct" translation. Sometimes Yusuf Ali is cited as reliable in these debates, sometimes another, depending one whose translation best suits one in a given context. Two interesting observations to make here: First, the person making the above remarks is presumably not as versed in Arabic or Koran as these 4 authors are. So they are in no way to judge who is the best among the four or that some of them are inaccurate. Second all these four authors are recognized without dispute as well versed in Arabic and Islam (Some were professor of Arabic in Islamic Universities etc) and all are Muslims themselves and cannot have any hostile intentions against Islam and if their translations were judged to have been intentionally distorted to hurt the image of Islam then even a single copy of their translations (Let alone millions of copies sold) would not have seen the light of day and they would be outcast (possibly killed) by now. So to reject the translations of 3 in favour of 1 by someone who is not even as well versed as any one of these four scholars is highly questionable. For any reader not familiar with Arabic the translation that the majority of these four translators agree on should be taken as most reliable, even if the fourth one appears to be more favourable to Islam's image. Choosing one interpretation over another as the correct one has no compelling reason behind it. After all no particular translator was approved by GOD or prophet as the only authorized interpreter!. If Koran is the word of GOD then for anyone to say Koran is not easy to understand, only few "knowledgeable" person can truly understand it is plainly contradicting the word of GOD ! Finally, (d) suffers from two main contradictions. As perfect book, Koran should be self-sufficient, no supplementary reading should be required. A perfect book should contain all the knowledge that one needs to know. No human knowledge (History, science etc) should be a prerequisite to understand a divinely written book. Consider the following 5 points (1) God says Qur'an is easy to understand (verses 44.58, 54.17,54.22) CONCLUSION: A person with average knowledge of Arabic should understand Qur'an and should be cognizant of the FACTS and INJUNCTIONS mentioned in it, athough he may not appreciate the poetic/aetshetic/phonetic quality in it. (2) An average knowledge of English is required for someone who is cognizant of a FACT or an INJUNCTION in Qur'an to express it in English ACCURATELY (Like "4" cannot change to "3", or "yes" cannot change to "no" etc.) (3) A translation by a person with average knowledge in Arabic and English may not convey the poetic/aesthetic/phonetic quality of the original, but CANNOT alter/twist the FACTUAL CONTENT of it. (Follows logically from (1) and (2) above) (4) Yusuf Ali, Shakir, Pickthall 's knowledge of Arabic was much better than average. All of them had at least an average knowledge of Englsish, and at least Pickthall had better than average knowledge in English being an English born. (5) The translations of Yusuf Ali, Shakir, Pickthall aggree with one another. CONCLUSION: The translations by either of the three translators above can never contain any factual misrepresentation of the original verses or distort their intents. Regarding the advice on reading the Tafseer before reading Koran, it is again contradictory to verses 44.58, 54.17,54. 22) saying Qur'an was made easy to understand by God. Moreover verse 25.33 says that Qur'an itself is the best explanation of the truth.If anyone who says Qur'an is not easy to understand and so should read tafseer is contradicting the words of God. Secondly when God revealed Qur'an he did not mention that one should wait until tafseers are published before reading the Qu'ran. The Qu'ran was revealed in easy language as claimed by God and was meant to be read/followed/ understood right when it was revealed. God never mentioned any tafseer by a designated author as the authentic interpreter of Qu'ran. A faith in Qur'an as the word of God and Muhammad as its messenger is only needed. Moreover the tafseers that the religious apologetics refer to were written long after Qur'an was revealed. If Tafseer is a must for a proper understanding for Koran then it implies that betweent the time Qur'ran was revealed and the Tafseers were written Qur'an could not have been understood properly by anyone. That defeats the claim of Koran as the self-contained guide for people of all times. The requirement that one should read tafseers to understand Qu'ran is a dictum issued by humans, God or his messenger never issued this dictum. So believing in this dictum cannot be part of the belief in God or Koran but a belief in an additional article of faith. No human has ever claimed or has been claimed as being divinely appointed to write an interpretation of Koran. Finally it is worth noting that if someone points out some good points about a verse, no religious apologist ever makes any of the statements (a),(b).. etc although they should be equally applicable in principle, i.e if someone is possibly mistaken about a negative verse for not reading the Tafseer, then by the same criterion, one is no less likely to be mistaken about a positive verse if read without Tafseer. Not only that, the same apologists who dismiss any criticism of religion/scriptures if it is based on translated quotes of scriptures on grounds of impossibilty of being translated, would feel no qualms in citing translated verses to defend and glorify religion and it's scriptures. It seems like the aplogetics want to have it both way. The fact that all the tafseers that apologists refer to are written by apologists themselves point to the de facto definition of tafseer as interpretations written to reinforce Quran. Many scholars well versed in Arabic who had studied Quran but were critical of it are never recognized as scholars and their interpretations are never accepted as tafseers by apologists.] #4. That all the negative verses of Hadiths) are results of intentional distortion of ill-intentioned people and do not truly represent the views of the prophet. [Well, if one rejects the bad things written in Hadith as lacking authenticity, then there is no logical basis for accepting the good part as being authentic either. One cannot by any logic pick and choose in Hadith based on which one one likes or dislikes. One has to either accept the entire Hadith or reject it in its entirety since there can be no further objective criterion to decide which part is authentic and which part is not, if at all one claims that hadith is a mixture of both authentic and inauthentic parts, because such objective criteria have supposedly been used already to filter out the false hadiths in publishing the authentic ones (Sahih Hadith) which are cited and quoted from anyway. There is also no objective criterion to decide who is right between those who claim that the bad parts of hadith are concocted and good parts are true and those who claim vice versa or that both parts are authentic. Also there is no scope for arguing for a misleading interpretation as is the case in Quran, where many verses are poetic and metaphoric, since the wordings of hadith are quite straightforward and unambiguous, not metaphorical. So to be consistent one has to either accept the entire hadith as authentic, or reject it's authenticity entirely. Any other stance is a contradiction and is only to suit one's biased view. ] #5. That science vindicates the Holy Book. The Holy Book already contains many of the findings of modern science. It is a miracle that the verses in it are essentially accurate in discussing many scientific ideas even though they were revealed long ago when science was not as developed as today, and the ideas of DNA, gene etc were not known then. [ Apologists contradict their own tenet by arguing that "modern science validates their holy book" because to say that, they have to accept science, not their holy book, as the ultimate truth, and use the former to judge the latter in contradiction to the tenet that the holy book is the ultimate source of the truth (see myth #1) If a perfect book written by perfect God did intend to reveal a scientific idea, it should not have been vague and metaphoric, but accurate and scientific enough that it can be put in a physics/chemistry/biology textbook without the need of any change. Not a single verse in the Holy Books contain even one scientific term, like atom, electron, Theory of relativity, Uncertainty principle etc. A "perfect" book cannot be lacking in so much precision. And regarding the defense of the vagueness of the verses by attributing it to the fact they were revealed thousands of years years ago, point can be made whether God knew about science then. How can perfect God be constrained by lack of scientific knowledge millenia ago to reveal scientific ideas more precisely? And as a perfect book, it could at least be as precise as a popular science book, if not as precise as a graduate text book. Some apologists counter that saying that if God used scientific trerms humans than would not have understood then. That is a poor defense, because the fact is that even without scientific jargon, the meaning of those verses were not understood then as being "scientific", and were only recognized as such only after the discovery of scientific principles much later. And most importantly, if the verses already contained scientific facts, then why as a perfect book, it needed the human knowledge of science to realize that they contain them? Why didn't the verses instill a scientific realization on its own, without having to wait thousands of years for the development of science (by mostly non-religious people) for its appreciation? It is also interesting to note some double standard that exists among dogmatic believers in religion. On one hand they claim that religion is beyond scientific analysis but on the other hand they would not shrink a bit in jumping to cite any scientific principle to validate their religious beliefs specially when some revelations/verses are vague and general enough to be easily fitted to a paraphrased form of a scientific principle. The most interesting thing is that the miraculous working of God is invoked when science cannot explain certain things while at the same time crediting scriptures as containing scientific truths when a vague semblance can be found by a stretch between a verse and a fact explainable by science. So both the success and failures of science are exploited to prove God's miracle. Quite convenient indeed! ] #6. That a secularist/atheist is biased against believers/religion and that secularism/atheism is no different form any religion since they preach the "dogma" of secularism/atheism. Secularists have vested interest in their opposition to religious belief. [ The myth here lies in the fact that a non-believer asserts his disbelief not as an attempt to promote or propagate a new dogma, but only in response (reaction) to believers' insistence that their belief is correct and their attempt in imposing it on the rest. The believers act proactively and are in the offensive whereas the non- believers/skeptics act reactively and are in the defensive. The non- believers would not have to resort to the critical study/research to debunk the believers had the believers not taken their belief outside of their private life and tried to thrust it on others. Atheists/skeptics/agnostics exist BECAUSE OF blind believers and NOT the other way around. It is the constant claims and persuasive attempt to force the belief on others that created the skeptics/ atheists etc as a counter reaction. A critical thinker hardly ever tries to debunk the belief's of Tibetan Monks or the Shaman priests of Japan. Most skeptics and critical free thinkers direct their time in refuting the claims and preaching of persuasive members of revealed religions. So one has to be very careful here. Believers of blind faith have great stake in the preservation and propagation of the perceived truth of their belief/dogma and hence would defend any criticism of it without caring to judge the merit of the criticism. On the other hand a non believer of a blind faith has nothing to gain just by not believing and criticizing any claims of truth of the blind faith holders. Their non- belief results from analytical thinking and thus they cannot accept a belief irrationally just because they being told so. Far from gaining anything from the non- belief they rather take on potential risk of back lash by the blind believers as well as depriving themselves from the pleasant feelings generated by the blind belief. Anything that has a rational basis will never be rejected or criticized by a rational person. So the bottom line is that a rational person who decides not to believe in a blind faith can never do it out of any bias against the believers since there is no apriori reason to be biased against believers just as an adult who does not believe in a fairy tale is not considered to be biased against children. The relationship between believers and non-believers is of a cause-effect nature. The non-believers have no agenda/dogma to propagate, their only raison de etre is to defend against the persuasive preachings of believers and to refute their arguments defending their dogma. Similarly atheism cannot be a religion, since atheism is nothing but a denial of theism (a-theism, the a- part indicates a negation). A negation of a dogma cannot be a dogma itself. Without theism, there cannot be atheism. A dogma is a stand alone belief that does not need another for its existence. So atheism cannot be a dogma. Also dogmatic believers describe Secular Humanists as another form of "fanatics" who are trying to fanatically promote their secular agenda etc. This is the height of fallacy and sophistry. One thing that has to be understood and emphasized very clearly is that humanists are committed to PREVENT/ RESIST acts of human rights violation. Fanatics on the other hand are bent on PERPETRATING human rights violation. Human rights referred to above are clearly defined universally and in the Declaration of Human Rights Charter of United nations. Prevention/ Resistance is a reaction to perpetration. Humanists came into existence becauseof the dogmatists. Consider this. Long ago a believer called B-1 formed a certain belief (due to a divine oracle, an epileptic seizure, temporal lobe stimulation, whatever). Now look at then diagram below: B-1 o (B-1 Somehow forms a belief "X") | |<-- B-1 Preaches "X" | | B-2_______V_______N-1 | (B-2 accepts "X", N-1 rejects) | | |<-- B-2 Preaches "X" | | B-3_______V_______N-2 | (B-3 accepts, N-2 rejects) | | |<-- B-3 Preaches "X" | | B-4_______V_______N-3 (B-4 accepts, N-3 rejects) etc.. So at the end of this three preachings we have a set of believers B= (B-1, B-2, B-3, B-4..) and a set of non-believers N = (N-1,N-2,N-3..) . Now what we see is that members of the set B now randomly picking on the members of set N to try to preach again or to criticize them for not accepting their belief, for example B-4 trying to preach/ criticize N-2 etc. This provokes a backlash by the members of N and they also try to debunk randomly the preaching of the members of B, for example N-3 debunking B-2 etc. The end result is we have a tension between two groups as a whole, B vs. N Now pause for a moment and think. Who do you blame for this adversarial polarization into two groups B and N? What is the root cause? It is clear that the N-'s are hanging free like a leaf with no trees below them (no preaching by them), whereas the B-'s are each creating a tree beneath them and becoming the root of that tree. Its the B-s' who are causing the birth and contributing to the growth of the set B and N by trying to preach their believes onto others. Now there are two sides to this. The only way to avoid this bickering between B and N would have been if none of the B-'s ever tried to pick on the N-'s to try to preach again or criticize them for rejecting their belief. Such is the case with Buddhism, Hinduism, Taosim, Shamanism, Bahai etc, in fact none of the religious beliefs except the three Abrahamic religions have this two polarized groups with tension between them. The other ideal way to prevent this polarization would be to stop preaching at all. If B-1 kept his belief and never tried to preach there would not have been this group polarization. So Mr. Aly, when you complain against a free thinker of attacking your faith, try to stare at the above diagram and understand who is the real culprit here., who really tried to impose their belief on others. #7) That non-belief in a faith is itself a faith, i.e rejecting a belief in God is a faith too like believeing in God. [ Non-belief requires logic, belief requires faith. So non- belief cannot be a belief as they require two fundamenatlly different premise. Belief in a faith is generated within (one's heart) inspired by emotional needs of individuals. A non-belief is generated not by a need, but by a reaction against preaching of a faith which cannot be justified by logic an evidence. If every rejection of a faith is characterized as faith, then one can literally create infinite number of faiths by proposing all kinds of assertions like fairies, unicorns etc exist, or that there is life on the sith planet in star-X, an alien landed in one's backyard etc etc. Faith cannot be generated soley through negation. A faith needs to be a positive assertion postulating a truth about a belief. #8. Apologists often react to criticisms of religious oppression by saying: (a) Atheists have also comitted atrocities in the name of secularism, like Stalin, Polpot, Hitler (Although he was not proven to be an atheist, etc..(b) Why do you blame only religious political parties for terrorism? Look at all the secular political parties also engaging in terrorism, bomb blasts, extortion etc.. [ (a) The logical fallacy in this retort is that the killing in the name of religion was exclusively targeted at the non- believers or believers in other religions. But the crimes of those historical atheist leaders were not targeted exclusively on theists or believers, but to political and ideological adversaries subscribing to a different socio-political philosophy. If their crimes were truly in the name of secularism/ atheism then logically the targets would only have been followers of any religion. But that was not the case. Their vicitms had some other more significant identifying attribute for them to be the target of atrocities. (b) Here the fallacy is in characterizing the acts. When a secular party engages in acts of extremism they don't do it IN THE NAME OF SECUALRISM. No party exists in the name of secularism (It may contain secularism as ONE OF many platforms). When goons of all politcal parties engage in terrorists acts they don't do so to make a statement in favour of secularism or to bash religion itslef, but to unleash their vendetta on rival political parties. On the other hand the terrorists acts of religious based parties are not limited to retaliation against rival parties only, often it is committed as a protest against secular ideals/ policies/cultures and/or in support of religious dogmas. That clearly distinguishes the religious extremists from all other political extremists (Again there is no secular extremists). #9 Theocracy is compatible with Democracy: This is claimed often by apologists of Islam in particular by insisting that running a state based on Islamic rule is consistent with democratic ideals. That Democracy and theocracy are mutually incompatible can be seen by considering the following series of statements about Democracy, secularism and theocracy. One must guard against sophistry used by advocates of the alleged compatibility whereby they redefine democracy, theocracy etc in a way that suits their preferred religion, and of course such convenient definitions deviate significantly from their widely understood and accepted senses. I am listing the features that are widely accepted and understood give and take some minor faetures not imporrtant to the debate. 1. Democracy = A system ensuring equal status and rights of all in any state affairs irrespective of religion(including the various sects and non-believers within each), race, language, gender etc formalized through a constitution. No preferential position of any group over others or preferential status of any group in the affairs of state should be given. State affairs should be participated and represented by all according to some neutral criterion. State should be run by an elected political party representing the people who would run the state implementing various policies that can vary from one party to another, but should never violate the constitution. 2. Secularism = System where no preferential position of any religion and its followers over other religions and their followers or over non-believers is allowed in the running of state(public) affairs. It enforces a separation between state and all religious institutions. So secularism is a subset of democracy as defined in (1) above, hence democracy necessarily implies a secular state. Note that secularisn DOES NOT require "atheism" (A common myth is that it does), which means democracy is compatible with "theism" where theism is meant as the set of religious beliefs and rituals held and practiced by individuals or groups privately such that they do not affect in any way the rights, status and freedom of any other individuals or groups belonging to a different religious belief or no religious beliefs at all. It must be emphasized that secularism implies both: (1) equal status of ALL relgions (regardless of relative number of each) in public affairs in a multireligious state and (2) Separating state affairs from religion (Which applies even in a monoreligious state). Both of these two aspect are vital and necessary aspects of secularism. 3. Theocracy = Control and governance of a state by one special religion based on the injunctions of scriptures of that religion and thus necessarily places that religion in a priviledged status over others, and affects the rights, status and freedom of followers of other religions, and non-believers as well. 4. Since (3) fails to satisfy the criteria of secularsim set in (2), and since secularism in turn is a necessary condition for democracy so theocracy is not compatible with democracy as affirmed. Now one may ask isn't democracy just what the majority wants? Not necessarily. Democracy is what the majority wants within a given range of options, such that both the options and its ranges are compatible with the criterion set in (1) and (2) above. One of the important lessons of history and science is that people collectively can be and have been wrong. We know Hitler's Nazism was wrong even though at that time majority of Germans favoured it. The majority of Germans don't now. Besides none of the options within the range should be such that choosing it would permanently rule out other allowed options in future. Democracy cannot permit any step that would defeat the very spirit of democracy even if the majority wants it. So democracy is not just rule by public poll or mandate without any concommitant conditionals that need to be met as well. One important conditional is pluralism, representativeness. A theocracy of one religion can only be supported by the dogmatic apologists of that religion. It leaves out the non- dogmatic moderate followers of that religion, all followers of other religions, and all the non-believers of all religions. So even if the dogmatic folowers of a religion as majority advocate theocractic rule, that would fail to meet the representativeness and pluralism criteria of democracy. The hallmark of democracy is the willingness of the majority to abdicate a preferential status when it contradicts representativeness and pluralism. Even in the extremely unlikely scenario when EVERYONE of a monoreligious state at some point in time desire to have theocracy, establishment of theocracy would still be against the notion of democracy. since the very establishment of theocracy would permanently block any reversion to non-theocratic rule (since theocracy forbits any other form by its very dogma) in future when such homogeneity in thoughts may not exist. Democracy, which should be based on timeless and objective criteria and principles fair to all groups, should also be flexible as well to anticipate and accomodate changing human needs and views. Theocray does not. It simply prescribes an absolute dogma. All it's putative flexibilities and dynamism are within a much narrower range, since they cannot budge from the primacy of their religion over others, which already contradicts the ideals of democracy and pluralism. Hence theocracy cannot be allowed in a true democracy because it contradicts the criteria of democracy and secularism as outlined in 1-2 above. Besides theoccray is absolutist in the sense that it officially denies equal status to any other system of belief, by the very fact of its claim to be divinely preferred religion. All religion claiming to be best by a divine decree, cannot in principle accord the same status to another religion in state affair, and hence once elected it will necessarily prevent any steps, using force if needed, to revert to any other options by force. Secular political parties, although each believing to be the best, ultimately leave it to the poeple to decide who is the best in a relection after being elected. The same is not true for parties favoring theocracy, as they are obligated to God for enforcing a theocratic rule. Re-election is an oxymoron when rule by divine law is viewed as absolute, not consitional on public mood or change of heart. An election, if any, of a party advoctaing theocracy under a democracy, has to be a one time ruse to get to the power once so it can be perpetuated. The same is true for a communist or any dogmatic form of government, which is not compatible within a democratic framework. #10 Eating Pork is banned in Quran because pork is bad for health (specially at the time of revelation) This is incompatible with myth #1. A perfect book cannot be mistaken in prioritizing health hazards. Smoking is even worse for health than eating pork. Why wasn't smoking prohibited ? And regarding the relevancy of time see myth #2. #11 Human knowledge is limited. So how can you rule out the existence of God? [ By the same logic how can you rule out the non-existence of God? If you have to appeal to human ignorance or limitations then nothing can be said one way or the other, one has to shut up completely in that case.] #12 a). Secularists who criticizes religion, often quote the verses out of context are nothing but hatemongers and b) The religious extremists act on their own, religious scriptures and its apologists have nothing to do with the extremists. [ a) Well, by the same token the apologists of religion who criticize the secularists and humanists by quoting them out of context are hatemongers too. b) Well, religious extremists do claim to be inspired from the verses of the scriptures. So if their acts cannot justify anyone characterizing the scriptures and the apologists as spreading hate, then it is an even a greater stretch to contend that the critics of scriptures are hate-mongers, since their criticism never inspires any counter acts of extremism against the apologists. Even if such counter acts of terrorism had occurred, the critics of scriptures could equally well contend that the counter extremists have nothing to do with their critciisms of scripture, and they (i.e the counter extremists) don't represent the critics. So it would be hypocritical of apologists to accuse the critics of spreading hate even if such counter extremist acts had occurred. Since such counter extremist acts never do happen, it is DOUBLY hypocritcal for the apologists to characterize the critics of scriptures as spreading hate. #13 When disaster strikes non-believers or criminals, then apologists describe it as a condine punishment from God, but when a similar disaster strikes religious people, it is described as God's test for the believers to purify their heart or if the disaster kills them, then to send them to heaven. The fallacy here is that the argument made in this manner is not falsifiable or verifiable, since the occurrence of both possibilities can also be explained by random factor as well. This type of argumnet attempts to have it both ways ] #14 Apologists often react to criticisms of verses of scriptures by saying "Why focus on selected verses only to project the negative, there are so many good ones too, why not focus on them?" Here the apologists unwittingly concedes to a tacit admission to the fact that there indeed are negaive verses. Well, they are right that there are indeed many positive ones too. But the point is that the scriptures are meant to be positive without exception, so positive verses amke no news worth announcing. A book that is claimed to be the supreme guide for mankind cannot but be positive. But it becomes an issue worth bringing up if it instead contains controversial verses amenable to negative interpretations, that can lead to acts of oppression if followed up literally by extremists. Such verses do need to be critically examined if and when they inspire acts of extremism. There are verses that would not be acceptable or considered politically correct if viewed as one' s personal view, not a divine one, in daily mundane affairs. Hence it is inconceivable that such a verse can be in a book which is supposed to be held to a much higher standard and is regarded as a supreme book to instil sublime values to humans. #15. God sent prophets and books at different ages to redeem humans make society free from evil. If the purpose of "Almighty" God to send each prophet was to warn humans or to save mankind and redeem society from evil then he has failed to achieve that goal and had to send more than one prophet and book. And then to claim that this is the last prophet and no more book will be revealed, the implication is that society will become perfect and there will be no more evil after the last prophet and book. But then why is the existence of hell still mentioned in the scriptures ? The very existence of hell implies there will necessary be evil. Indeed looking around we still see the presence of evil in society. So whats the point of sending a last prophet and also declaring the unconditional existence of hell? These two are mutually incompatibele. #16 God gave us the free will to choose good and reject evil, free will is a gift of God, without that we humans would be machines: Sounds good prima facie. But then the same apoloigists would want to rob humans of the option to exercize the free will by imposing religious rules on their lives forbidding anything that is considered evil in religion. They seem to do exactly opposite to what they praised as a virtue of God, i.e granting the free will and the option to choose good from the evil. An true exercize of free will requires that no pressure be exerted in the decisiom to exercize the free will. 8. GOD, ATHEISM & SECULAR HUMANISM (NFB, July 18, 2001) In this article I intend to discuss the widely used notions of God, theism, atheism & secular humanism and point out some confusions and misconceptions that are quite common among many and. I will take a closer look at these notions, attempt to clarify some of them, specially atheism as is (mis)understood and propose that the use of the term atheism be de-emphasized or limited to a very strict narrow sense when it truly applies. Before I proceed I will state a postulate (reflecting the status of contemporary human knowledge), a fundamental fact and a list of some some abbreviations and definitions for ease of reference later. POSTULATE: The laws of Physics can provide a plausible explanation of the creation of the universe and life through evolution (Leading Biologists and Physicists are unanimous about this, for example Stephen Hawking, Richard Dawkins and James Watson of DNA fame, who said in his lecture at the London Institute of Contemporary Arts in 1985: "In the last analysis, there are only atoms. There's just one science, Physics; everything else is social work"). The above postulate is a generalization utilizing Occam's Razor the wealth of knowledge acquired by Cosmologists and Biologists, mostly in the last decade of 20th centurty that most laymen are not aware of. Dawkins nicely explains how the argument from design is obsoleted by the evidence of evolution in his online article : http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/dawkins_18_3.html The work of Physicists Hawking, Thorne, Andrei Linde, Lee Smolin et alia shows nicely how the observable universe can arise out of nothingness (ie. vacuum) through the complicated outcome of Quantum Fluctuations and cosmic evolution. For evolution of life on Earth, the important point to realize is that a huge number of small incremental steps of natural actions(dictated by Laws of Physics) acting over over a long long time can give rise to an order or pattern that appears extraordinary to a human observer watching it at ONE INSTANT of time. Why is it that the Laws of Physics itself is such that it leads to marvelous designs in nature when it (Physics Laws) acts over a sufficient length of time under the right conditions? This question has no answer, period. No amount of references to God/Allah/ Brahma/Koran/Gita/Bible/Sufism/Gnostcism/Upanishad/Physics/Biology, what have you will be able to rescue us from this ultimate ignorance and answer this question Saying that "God" designed it (i.e the laws of nature) that way is NOT an EXPLANATION, but a pretentious way of phrasing this ultimate ignorance in a way that seem to rescue one from this stigma of ignorance. But it is a trivial observation that such utterances do not add any substance to alter what humanity AS A WHOLE knows or does not know about the ultimate reality. The Laws of Physics are given to us by nature, on an as is basis, there is no Physics of Physics (Metaphysics) to explain why the laws of physics are as they are. This leads us to the following incontrovertible fact of nature reflecting our ignorance about the ultimate reality: A FUNDAMENTAL FACT AND MYSTERY: The origin of the Laws of Physics (i.e the ultimate reality) is not understood or explainable by humanity as a whole. It IS the ultimate mystery. Individual or group claims of knowing the ultimate reality (Through various schools of mysticism, metaphysics or religion etc) do not qualify for acceptance (like the laws of Physics whose acceptibility crosses all boundaries creatd by humans) to the whole of humanity crossing all boundaries as a solution/explanation of the ultimate mystery. A COMMON SENSE OBSERVATION: If ever humanity can ever graduate to the level of knowing the ultimate reality (i.e the origin of the Laws of Physics) then the route to that knowledge of ultimate reality has to be via The Laws of Physics itself, since the Laws of Physics already provides a plausible (in fact the most plausible) explanation NOW of the creation and evolution of Life and the Universe. List of abbreviations and definitions used: ---------------------------------------------- GOD-R : Various RELIGIOUS notions of God described in the doctrines of major religions as personal(i.e in concerned with each human's life in a personal way), with super-humanlike attributes like omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence (super is symbolized by the "omni-" prefix) and other attributes specific to each religion. GOD-S : Various SPIRITUAL notions of God formed independent of any established religious doctrines, as being the root cause or the ultimate reality behind the creation and evolution of the universe, Anyone who feels a sense of mystery,awe and spirituality observing the universe is invariably led to some kind of concept of a mysterious ultimate reality or creator. Examples are the Naturalistic God of Spinozza, Process Theology of Teillard de Chardin, Omega Point (promoted to a Physics concept) of Frank Tipler, OR any other impersonal concept of God that anyone might form personally independent of religion. So there is a wide gamut here. Not all notions of God-S is conceived in the sense of a creator, those that do conceive of a creator do so not in the sense of a creator WILLING the creation of the universe like the personal God-R, but creator as an impersonal natural cause, they are labelled Desists. Some notions refer to God as a creative force or process that is not any separate entity from nature, but as part of nature (In fact nature itself in its holistic manifestation) as well. God here can be an immanent (i.e extending throughout the observable universe) or a transcendental (i.e beyond the observable universe) one. Believers of an immanent God-S are labeled as Pantheists. Those who believe in a transcendental higher level of causality above the Laws of Physics (God-S) are known as platonists. (More precisely Neoplatonists). NOTE: I have excluded "The Set of Physical laws" as being one variant of God-S which is usually included as a concept of God-S in the philosophy literature. The reason I am excluding it is that otherwise the term "atheism" would cease to have any meaning since my definition of an atheist is one who views the "Laws of Physics as the ultimate reality" and does not believe in any higher level of causal reality than Physics. THEIST: Believers in God-R (dogmatists and moderates). Dogmatists are the hard core believers who actively preach it, criticize the non- believers in God-R etc. Moderates are really closet God-S (creator of the universe) believers who finds it socially convenient to adopt God-R (Either due to inheritance or due to not being able to think critically about the whole issue of God-S with so much possibilities) to reflect their belief in an ultimate reality. They don't care much for the dogma that goes with God-R and are quite passive in their belief. Majority fall in this category. Theists insist that morality is derived/inspired from belief in God-R. INFIDEL: Anyone who does not believe in God-R. Includes Deists, Pantheists, Atheists, Agnostics, noncognitivists etc ATHEIST: A disbeliever of both God-R and God-S. INFIDEL-1: An infidel who believes in some form of God-S like deists, pantheists, process theologists etc. INFIDEL-2: An atheist (atheist and Infidel-2 will be used interchangeably) AGNOSTIC: An infidel who is neither strictly infidel-1 or infidel-2 (Atheist) but accepts the possibility of either being valid stand. NONCOGNITIVIST: One who does not accept the notion of both God-S or God-S as logically defined notion, so does not take any position. Noncognitivism is a result of strict rationalist appraoch to reality SHR : Secular Humanists/Rationalists. They are infidels who insist that morality must be and is inspired from a love for humanity and not from some divine source. OBSERVATIONS: 1. Belief in God-R usually is preceded by belief in God-S (as a root cause of the universe, a creator in a general sense) which is more intuitive. A failure to understand or visualize God-S satisfactorily prompts many to a belief in God-R which seems to provide a closure by providing a simplistic solution to the ultimate mystery. A belief in God-S in turn is inspired by the ignorance stated in the fundamental fact/mystery above. 2. All SHRs are infidels, mostly infidel-1, a small subset of them are atheists (Infidel-2). The term "atheist" has been widely misapplied by theists (often intentionally) to label all SHRs, not just atheists (Infidel-2). The perception ingrained among theists and critics of infidels that Infidels claim that the existence of God is DISPROVED is mistaken. They don't. Rather they claim that the existences is NOT PROVEN. Thats quite distinct logically from the former assertion. 3. Both Theists & Atheists bring a closure to the sense of mystery, awe & spirituality at the creation of universe by providing their own explanation. Theists "explain" it positing that the creation of life and universe is an act of the religious God, which is really not an explanation, but a simplistic statement of faith in the unknown. Atheists bring the closure by explaining the creation of life and universe as a very accidental, random event of nature that can be explainable (if not fully now, eventually) by the laws of science. They don't believe in any higher level of causality above the laws of Physics. Infidel-1 leaves some room for an eternal sense of wonder as no closure is postulated, merely a speculative view about a higher level of causal reality than Physics that seems to make a some provisional sense about this ultimate mystery. Their speculative view is not meant to be an absolute statement of faith. 4. Definition of God-R posits a humanlike consciousness (i.e mind ) , that can affect humans at a personal level (incurring God's mercy, wrath etc,hence the term personal God of religion). 5. Although the Laws of Physics as the root cause or the governing set of laws for the observable universe and life does not seem to have a human like consciousness like God-R, its manifestations do display a primitive semblance of consciousness, e.g the Cause-Effect duality inherent in it gives rise to patterns and regularities in nature that seem to reflect the work of a cosmic mind. A beautiful rose or a snowflake, an angry man, a passionate love, a violent storm, an epidemic, all seem to be the work of some cosmic mind, so Laws of Physics (which is really the root cause of the seven phenomena just mentioned ) do "seem" to have a mind. But thats all there is to it. It is just a semblance of a mind. A mind that we are so familiar with from our human experience. After all, a mind is a perception of some cause/ effect duo involving a human. For example, a certain action or word provokes anger in a human. We associate this cause-effect duality with that human's mind. Similarly when a depression is formed it provokes a cyclone. There is a close resemblance. In fact the reaction of a human mind is ultimately explainable in Physics terms (Only in principle though, since in practice the complexity of human brain with trillions of neurons will make it impossible to provide an exact analytical explanation), at least there is no reason to believe that anything beyond the laws of physics is causing such "action/word ---> angry response" cause- effect duo. By Occam's razor natural cause is the more likely agent in causing this. In fact all human emotions, feelings are rooted in the natural laws. There is no need to invoke any divine spiritual force or agent in it. Biology is sufficient to account for that. Besides such emotions are not confined to humans only, it is only accentuated and more refined in us. Even sharks are documented as responding to the caressing touch of human. Dolphins are well known to display sense of affection. Humans (even theists) rarely assign spirituality to animal emotions. It is considered natural (biological). Biologists today are unanimous about the biological (hence ultimately physical) roots of emotions and feelings in humans (mainly in the wiring of the brain , which itself is due to a combination of genetic code and environmental stimulus) there is no divine mystery in it (other than the fundamental mystery of the origin of the laws of Physics), though it is fascinating. Notion of God-S does leave some room for more than just a mere semblance of a mind than that of pure natural laws. Here since the root cause of the laws of Nature is left as unknown(speculative), that leaves some room for a possibility of the occasional manifestations (i.e a projection, shadow sort of) of its attribute through the workings of the natural laws or its hitherto unknown extensions.That may have a more personal appeal or effect on humans and may seem to be the work of a cosmic/transcendental mind. Such manifestations are as yet not documented conclusively. But for individuals who privately vouch for spiritual and supernatural experiences, that may provide a personal ground for attributing their experiences to such manifestations of a higher reality, specially if all natural explanations are ruled out. (Out of Body experience for example do have natural explanations and hence cannot be treated as such manifestations). Now let me discuss closely the issue of the belief in God or lack thereof as it is usually stated and the inherent fallacy in them. Now consider the Statements S-1 & S-2: S-1 : God exists. (Theists) S-2 : God does not exist . (Infidels) When theists state S-1, it is clear that God-R is implied, but when Infidels state S-2, they don't clarify if God-R or God-S is implied. Theists exploit this ambiguity to interpret a denial of both God-R and God-S to suit their agenda of dehumanizing SHRs. Now lets assume God-R is meant in S-1 and S-2. Let us consider the logical validity of these two statements. Is it possible to assign a truth value (True/ False) to this statement? A statement must be a proposition to admit of a True/False attribute. A statement must be constructed out of well-defined and unambiguous set of terms to qualify as a proposition. Is God-R in S-1 and S-2 well-defined and unambiguous? NO. The fact that theists emphatically claim that God-R is clearly and unambiguously defined in their religion does not make it so, since those claims do not pass the criteria of logic as universally accepted and reflective of the advanced human rational faculty. Every definition of God-R runs into problem with attributes of omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence, shapeless yet with humanlike consciousness etc and make it an ill-defined concept. Most importantly no criterion can be set for the objective test of the presence/existence of such an ill-defined concept. Let me give an example where a well-defined non-existent concept whose existence can easily be verified if it really existed. Take a fairy for example. It is defined as a fair woman with wings anatomically attached to her arms who can fly. Now this definition is certainly conceivable with no ambiguity. If one is ever conclusively and unanimously observed and tested scientifically to rule out hallucination or magic then we can say fairies do exist. The faith in fairies will then be promoted to a truth verified by observation. We don't need to go into further details of whether such fairies talk, eat, or share any other human attributes. As long as it meets the requirement of a female body with anatomical wings with the ability to fly we can agree to its existence. Until a fairy is observed in such a conclusive way an assertion of its existence is a well-defined proposition and is a faith in a well-defined concept. By the same token the assertion of its non-existence is also a logically constructed proposition and a faith as well. As a side we remark that the faith in non-existence of fairies is more plausible than in its existence by Occam's Razor. Now come to God. God is not such a faith in a well-defined concept, because its very concept suffers from logical contradictions with the defining attributes of omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence etc. These contradictions have been well known to logicians and philosophers. These contradictions are nicely summarized in the site: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/theodore_drange/incompatible.html We also cannot decide how to test God if we ever see him/it or experience his/its presence with the definition of God-R. The most widely preached notion of God-R resembles an invisible human with infinite strength, compassion, knowledge etc. But insisting on invisibility as an essential attribute of God while still attaching humanlike attributes like mercy, strength etc, the theists are mixing and matching contradictory attributes in their notion of God to be even amenable to a sensible logical debate or a scientific analysis. Existence or non-existence of a concept or entity that is ill-defined at best with contradictory attributes is not even a meaningful question. It is like defining a fairy as a fair woman with wings attached anatomically that can fly but is never visible to a human eye!. For God-S its not much of a problem since it is defined in an abstract way that suffers from no internal contradiction like God-R and is not CLAIMED or PREACHED but posed as a response to God-R. God-S is really not a faith, but a possible VIEW of the ultimate reality. God-R on the other hand is a concept which is a result of CLAIMING and PREACHING of a FAITH . A theist might challenge the alleged contradictions of the definition of God-R and argue : " well how about if a person shouts to God and says: God if you are really there, split the moon in half for 3 seconds and put it together after that, every time I request you to do so , if he then indeed sees moon-splitting every time he makes a request then would it not justify that God exists and is a well-defined concept ?" The theists usually cite such alleged miraculous events that are claimed to have happened to some chosen messensgers of God . But as miraculous as it may seem it will still be considered his personal belief by others (except those who blindly believes in such claims of miracles). And even if in the unusual case when all others in the world also see the moon being split when that person makes the request, it will be concluded that the person possesses a supernatural psychic ability and a is freak of nature. It still would not prove the existence of God-R because the notion of God-R is not just defined by such a miraculous event, or any freak of nature or by a very special psychic ability of ONE human. The notion of God-R is too logically inconsistent to admit of any logical or scientific proof whatsoever, hence it will remain as an illogical belief forever reflecting the inherent insecurity and desire of humans for immortality. And immortality that can only be bestowed by some superhuman entity, not by another human. So when an infidel states S-2, it indirectly grants legitimacy to S-1 as a proposition which it is not. Hence S-2 is not a logically acceptable proposition either. Remember the famous retort of Nobel Laureate Wolfgang Pauli when reviewing a theory "Why, this theory is so bad it is not even wrong!" ? If a theory is not clear enough to admit itself of a logical way to even falsify it, let alone verify it then it is nothing but gibberish. Even a wrong theory needs to pass some minimum criteria to be worthy of a review and judged wrong! Similarly a statement must be constructed using well-defined unambiguous words to possess a true/false attribute. Now lets closely examine the consequences of stating S-2. Theists(dogmatists) paint infidel-1 SHR as necessarily atheists, to malign and dehumanize them to the gullible mass(mostly moderate theists) by the implication that infidel-1 denies even God-S. The moderate theists buy into the dogmatists' propaganda that a non- believer of God any kind (Which includes God-S in whatever variation) cannot posses any sublime qualities like morality, sense of humility, spirituality, beauty etc. Theists loathe any non believer in God-R and since Infidel-1 are the majority among SHR, they resort to this misrepresentation of SHR as atheists to alienate them from the moderates. Of course a small subset of SHR do indeed proclaim themselves as "atheists" (Infidel-2) . We will address them later. To summarize, here is how the logic goes: 1. Theists identify (intentionally or by mistake) all SHR(Infidels) as Atheists (Infidel-2) 2. Atheists are known to deny the existence of God of any kind (God-R or God-S) 3. Theists believe that belief in at least some kind of God is needed for morality/sense of spirituality etc. 4. Therefore theists (including moderates & dogmatists) conclude that infidels-1 (i.e all SHRs, since Infidels-2 are by definition non believer of any God) are devoid of morality/sense of spirituality etc . We can now see the fallacy in the final inference of Step 4 as it is based on an erroneous premise in step 1 (That all SHRs are atheists, which need not be true). Note that even if we agree that atheists are devoid of any sense of morality or spirituality (which itself is baseless and prejudiced) the conclusion in step 4 would still be fallacious as it bases on the erroneous premise in 1. One can certainly argue about Step 3 (Which implies as a corollary that atheists are devoid of any sense of spirituality) and question its validity. which I will go into later. Now it must be understood that the assertion that "atheists deny the existence of God" is more often made by theists to describe Infidels who only make such assertions to describe themselves only in response to a theist's claim to the existence of religious God. In other words this statement of denial of the existence of God was forced upon those who disagreed with the theists' claim about the existence of God-R. There was no atheists before theism. Although the assertion S-2 of Infidels is a logically flawed one like the theists, as I pointed out earlier, it nevertheless is not due to a well thought out dogma by them but due to a skeptical rejection of a dogma of a religious god thrust upon them by the theists. In their haste in expressing their rejection they overlook the logical inconsistency of the manner of expressing their rejection. So it is clear that the root problem stems from two logically flawed statements S-1 and S-2 and not clarifying if God-R or God-S was meant in S-2, thereby providing the theists an opportunity to mischaracterize SHRs. Now imagine religion was never born, no prophets, no revelations, no theists (hence no a-theists) etc. What would human mind then think of the ultimate mystery of the universe, life etc? There would sure still be the myths about some imaginary Thunder Gods, Zeus, etc (i.e images of powerful force controlling human lives and nature). There would certainly be rational minds dismissing such myths but who would no longer need to proclaim themselves as atheists or assert the non-existence of God (Because there are no theists to provoke such reaction). The rationalists of our real world of religion/God are the same as those of a hypothetical world of no man made religions except that they carry the extra baggage of having to take a position against religious God preached by theists. Many of these SHRs who are infidel-1 are not careful enough in expressing their position and unwittingly identify themselves as "atheists" (i.e infidel-2, although some SHR are true atheists by their own proclamation, thus falling into the trap of theists who hastily pigeonhole them into atheism and thus advertise them with relish as immoral, lacking in spirituality, finer human qualities like love, beauty etc. Now let me critique the views of true blue atheists, and see how justified is their view. As noted earlier atheists not only reject God-R but also reject the idea of any order, design or mystery behind the creation of life and universe, which to them is nothing but an accidental event in nature, and they view the laws of nature (Physics) as nothing but a human construct to map reality in human terms and believe that universe and its creation can be totally understood in terms of these laws of Physics (if not fully now, later). They reject a transcendental reality (in contrast with platonists who believe in a higher level of causality residing in a transcendental realm). This view of atheists is flawed and is not consistent with reality. I will argue for platonism (more precisely neoplatonism) as a more plausible belief as does Sir Roger Penrose of Oxford. If at all the laws of Physics and the theorems of mathematics were merely a human mental construct to map reality then it would be purely ad hoc and no predictive power would be expected. But the very fact that many abstract theories in Physics and mathematics are formulated well in advance of any experimental applications but eventually do find applicability in nature, as well as predicting many natural phenomena correctly, is an indirect indication (I emphasize, not a proof) to a transcendental realm of the Laws of Physics and Mathematics. In plain words, platonists assert that there is a higher level of causality above the Laws of physics and that the known Laws of physics/Theorems of mathematics are a projection of that transcendental reality (Platonic world, God-S which gives rise to the laws of Physics), whereas atheists assert that the buck stops at the laws of Physics, that there is no higher level of causal Reality above the laws of Physics. They dismiss laws of Physics and mathematics as purely constructs of human consciousness which does not point to the existence of any transcendental realm. It is important to note that at this level we are talking about metaphysical views that are not logically verifiable or falsifiable but are nevertheless not logically absurd or inconsistent like belief in God-R. The insistence of atheists in denying a higher level of causality above the laws of Physics is to me a less plausible position than platonism as it does not reflect the inherent limitations of human mind by making such strong DENIAL (Which requires superhuman knowledge, or omniscience, since it is not logically provable). The position of platonists asserting a higher level of causality is a more plausible one (As it is indirectly suggested by observation as I indicated), but is also a belief, since it is not logically provable either. The most consistent position is forgoing any belief by combining platonism with atheism into agnosticism by admitting of either possibility ie. that it is possible that there may not after all be a higher level of causality, or that there may be, WE MAY NEVER KNOW. Who says that permanent ignorance is not logically admissible ? :) Anyway coming back to the issue of mischaracterization by theists of Infidel-1 as atheists to dehumanize SHR so that they can be marginalized as atheists. Thats because it is easier to paint atheist with a lack of spirituality and morality. Is this presumption about infidels (specially atheists) as being devoid of a sense of lmmorality, love, beauty justified? We do meet quite a few atheists who show their extraordinary humility, kindness, selflessness and filial piety etc. Besides if we understand that it is all biological at the root, no matter whether one is theist, infidel-1 or atheist, one is as likely to posses such fundamental emotions as anyone else. It is just determined by biology and whatever belief in the ultimate reality cannot determine it. Why do theists (and even some infidel-1) strongly insist that non- believers of any kind are devoid of any sense of morality, beauty, humility etc. ? Well, its quite easy to understand this attitude in the case of morality since theists posit morality as being derived from God-R. Hence that obvious conclusion by them. That is a flawed conclusion as well and has been refuted by many. (See for example http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/schick_17_3.html or http://humanist.net/essays/morality.html for some excellent discussions of human basis of morality). Regarding the lack of humility/love/beauty etc (with which some infidel-1 also think about atheist) the reason is that with no belief in mystery or unknown, they argue that a human mind becomes totally existentialist, focussing on the material gain as life offers no other meaning with its finite existence. Again this is flawed too, as even sense of beauty,humility,altruism etc are all biological in root as evolutionary biology has discovered. Nobody is beyond biology, not even the atheists. Of course there are hedonistic existentialists who may not care for arts, beauty, humility, but that is due to their inherent genetic makeup, not due to their well-thought out view of the ultimate reality. A final point. In fact God-S inspires even a higher level of sense of awe/ beauty than God-R, as God-S and science are intimately linked and science can help us to dig further into the mystery of the universe and thus help to bring human mind closer to the ultimate reality, if there is one. Making a definite statement S-1 (in the sense of God-R) or S-2 (in the sense of God-S) to "explain" or "deny" respectively and bring a closure to the mystery of the universe is a recipe for killing this sense of awe/spirituality
- A perfect book cannot contain verses that lend itself to multiple interpretations,ambiguities and controversies). It should have been written clearly enough to guard against such possibilities and should have been above all controversies.
- A perfect book cannot be hard to interpret/understand as is claimed by believers, when they try to refute the criticisms against certain verses for its negative connotations. Perfection implies clarity by unanimous judgment.
- A perfect book should have mentioned the principles of science, if any, not in such a vague and ambiguous way like some verses that the believers claim to contain scientific facts of embryology and astronomy etc. It is inconsistent that text books written by humans contain scientific facts can be so clear and precise while a perfect book written by God can be so vague that there is no unanimity among humans as to its scientific accuracy whereas scientific facts written by humans in science books are unanimously agreed to by humans of all religions and beliefs. Also as a perfect book, it should have answers to all unanswered questions in science. It should at least certainly have the "Theory of Everything" in a succinct yet precise way since it is the most profound insight about nature that human can ever attain. Physicists all around the world of all denominations have been searching for it.
- A perfect book by God should not contain cursing words of God against humans (As in some verses).
- A perfect book, cannot be accepted as perfect only by a subset of humanity (followers of a certain religion), a truly perfect book should have been ecognized as such by all of humanity. Perfection should be an objective concept .]