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The Trinity Delusion An examination of the doctrine of the Trinity

3 Questions for Trinitarians

"You will surely not die. - The Serpent in the Garden of Eden

1. Are You An Immortal Entity just like God?

Have you ever noticed that when Trinitarians are asked who was dead on the cross that Trinitarians will commonly want to explain two things: (1) that Jesus had two natures and (2) what happens when all human beings die? Have you ever asked yourself why they would want to explain what happens when any human dies? Are they suggesting that you have two natures too?

Trinitarians believe in the immortality of the soul. This means that they believe in the a soul is something which cannot become ever dead. If a soul ever became dead it wouldn't be immortal. They believe souls are not mortal but immortal. And because of this, Trinitarians believe they are immortal soul/spirit. They believe they are two things: (1) an immortal soul and (2) a mortal body. And so when they die, they believe they are an immortal soul and/or spirit who separates from their mortal bodies leaving their dead body behind. And after the point of death, they are not that dead body because they are in fact still alive. Their identity, their ego, their person, is not that dead body. Rather, they themselves are that immortal soul that cannot become dead. Immortality means forever remaining alive and they believe they are souls that will forever remain alive. Otherwise, they would not be immortal souls and they do confess they are immortal souls. The believe they are like God and are immortal like God.

Spirit is what makes alive and we all know this. Angels are spirit and so angels are immortal. God is spirit and so God is immortal. Therefore, in the doctrine of the Trinity, God the Son, the Second Person of the Trinity, is immortal and impassible. God the Son cannot suffer the pain of death and become dead. That person is immortal and impassible and cannot be dead. Only his body can be dead and that after the point of death that dead body is not him. God the Son cannot be that dead body because God the Son is immortal and impassible and cannot be dead. He was still alive or he would not have been impassible and immortal. And Trinitarians believe they are just like God the Son and they too are immortal and cannot be dead; they are immortal impassible souls who cannot become dead. Only their bodies can be dead but those dead bodies are not them because they are immortal souls who remain alive. If they did not remain alive they would not be immortal souls but they do believe they are indeed immortal souls. They believe they are immortal souls which by definition means they are not dead but immortally alive and incapable of being dead. They believe they are just like God who is impassible and immortal and is incapable of being dead but will remain alive after the point of death.

Question 1: The Bible says that the One God alone possesses immortality. Do you believe it is rational to think that you are immortal just like God?

2. Was Anyone Dead on the Cross for Your Sins?

Since the Logos aka God the Son aka Second Person of the Trinity, is immortal and impassible, and left his dead body behind on the cross, and God the Son was not dead on the cross, then who was? If it was not God the Son, and Jesus is not a different person than God the Son, then it could not be someone else who was dead could it? And we must therefore conclude that nobody was hanging dead on the cross. The person known as God the Son was not dead but alive since he is immortal and impassible; only a body was dead.

Question 2: Since in the doctrine of the Trinity, Jesus was not two persons but one, and Jesus and God the Son are the same identical person, and since this person, the Second person of the Trinity, is immortal and impassible and was therefore not dead but alive after the point of death, and only a body was dead, then do you believe that anybody at all was dead for your sins? If you do not agree, then who was dead and was this dead person a different person than God the Son who was not dead? If God the Son was not dead for your sins, was it someone else? If you insist the Second Person of the Trinity was indeed dead, are you suggesting he was not immortal? And why would you deny historical Trinitarian doctrine and claim to be a Trinitarian?

3. Is God Your Own Father?

Jesus was begotten in Bethlehem in Judea in the days of Herod. He had been begotten of God by the Spirit of God. Because he was begotten of God, Jesus calling God his own Father. And because Jesus called God his own Father, the Jews wanted to kill him.

For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Jesus, because he not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. John 5:18.

And they finally had him killed for this reason:

We have a law, and by that law He ought to die because he made Himself out to be a son of God. John 19:7.

Jesus also taught Nicodemus that no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless he is begotten again a second time. One must be begotten of God by the Spirit of God. All humans are begotten of natural parents. But if we want to enter the Kingdom of God, we must die to that life and be begotten again into a new life. We must die to the first life into which were were begotten of natural parents and be begotten again, begotten a second time into a new second life. We must be begotten of God by the Spirit of God. And when we are begotten of God by the Spirit of God, it is God who begat us anew, and God is our Father.

Question 3: The Jews wanted to kill Jesus because he was begotten of God and called God his own Father. Are you begotten of God and willing to confess God is your own Father like Jesus did knowing that men with the same spirit as these Jews will want to persecute you and perhaps kill you for confessing to be a begotten child of God? Are you begotten of God by the Spirit of God? Is God your own Father?

Created: November 11, 2011
Last Updated: November 16, 2011