SE in computer science education
Software developers pick up the ad hoc approach to software development early
The existence of software engineering processes was never even mentioned in undergraduate courses
Computer science education does not provide students with the necessary skills to become effective software engineers
The focus should be on the complete process from beginning to end and beyond
When the student enters the work force have not seen how processes affect the final outcome
Individual programmers tend to think their work from day to day is too "small" to warrant the application of formal methods