VINO'S
VOX POPULI
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or - Tips from your fellow killers.
The
following tips are presented to you either from your fellow TEC players
or from dear old Vino himself. All submissions have been given due credit
with the player's character-name (when given) so that you may show proper
appreciation in person, should you so desire. This section will be updated
as often as possible, but I have noticed that most of the submissions are
posted in The Vineyard Message Board so I will just leave them there until
I update.
Three
tricks for ya to consider
Sunday,
31-Oct-1999 10:45:23
ONE:
When you get tough enough to knock out another character, buy yourself
a couple of ropes or a set of manacles (from Galba's chain shop). The next
time a thief tries to lift your sack, K.O. the bastard and use the bind
command to tie his hands and then his feet with your rope, or with the
manacles. Use the command string: bind <whoever> with <rope/manacle/whatever>.
Rope
is cheaper and therefore preferrable but it is rumored (uncomfirmed) that
thieves can cut ropes that bind them with their sharpened coins, it they
palmed them. This trick also works on animals and men (thugs, bandits,
etc.). The command will only work on passive or unconscious targets.
TWO:
Go fishin' with a fishing rod. I have no idea where to purchase one, you
will have to ask around. Use the commands CAST ROD in an area that supports
fishing, usually anywhere there is water. I even heard a guy was fishing
in the baths one time. This will save you on food costs if you don't mind
eating fish all the time. (Vino seys: I have it from a reliable source
that this is just a myth or no longer true. Fishing can only be done in
certain areas, usually certain spots near rivers. I will post those areas
here when I can.)
Also,
this skill automatically improves when you use it, though not by much.
You can't get training in fishing.
(Vino
seys: Known fishing spots - The docks of Monlon.
The "wide silty river" beyond the Monlan ladder.
The Swamplands north of Iridine (such as between the Swamp Cabin and the
Misty Vale.)
One particular spot south of the Vetallun road between the Vetallun Road
mark and
the Vetallun Crossroads mark. (The only one allowing southerly travel.))
THREE:
The macros you mentioned called approach man and attack
man not only work on masked/hooded thieves but on the bandits in the
bandit woods as well. So when players get skilled enough to hunt the woods
regularly they should already have a macro for them, if they have programmed
their macros as you suggested.
Mourn
Save
money on food
Sunday,
31-Oct-1999 11:00:23
Don't
waste yer money on the bread, soup, biscuits, fruit and other such stuff
that the locals sell. You kin eat fer free. When ya skin dem rats ('n many
other animals) ya kin keep on skinnin' and get a lotta internal organs
(yuck, I know) as well as meat. get this stuff, keep it and cook
it over a fire/campfire/ torch/etc.) when you get a chance. Use the cook
<edible> over <fire/torch/etc> command string until it gets overcooked.
You can't help but overcook it, of course (you ain't a professional cook,
are ya?) but yer stomach won't know the difference. Meat and other edible
flesh cooked this way will keep forever in your sack, backpack, etc.
(Vino
seys: Sorry, folks. Rules have changed and only Outdoorsmen can cook nowadays.
Oh, well. At least thieves can still eat "for free")
Vino
Nuovo, the drunken warrior
Pouches
fer sens
Sunday,
31-Oct-1999 21:40:50
Well,
I have been around for awhile and have made money selling pelts, then stones
from rats stomachs, harvesting plants and salvaging things I found laying
around. Thieves leave their empty pouches laying everywhere. I dont know
why, seems people would know where they are working by leaving evidence
but anyway you can sell them for a sen at Venina's. Not much but adds up
and if you are picking stuff all the time it becomes a habit. Carry more
than 1 sack. . . .
Hope
this helps and gets some of that trash picked up....
Oh,
don't become a locksmith and expect to get rich. . . You know some guy
gave me a denar today for opening his chest....I tried to throw it at him
but he was to close. . . *mutter*. A guy ought to be able to throw something
at someone in the same room you would think. . . *chuckle*.
Robus
A new kind
of sparring
Monday,
01-Nov-1999 14:43:53
When
you get enough armor or blocking skills, or both, so that the animals you
are hunting can't (or almost never) hit you, try this: instead of sparring
with another newbie, spar with the animal instead. Toggle your practice
mode on and hack at the beastie for all your worth. As you are doing no
damage the animal won't try to disengage or fall unconscious and you can
hack at the critter until you wear yourself out. Then toggle practice
mode again and finish him off. You can really rack up the skill points
without having to search for other critters to hunt.
This
works on all killable creatures, thugs, brutes, bandits, etc.
Vino
Nuovo, the drunken warrior
Useful thing
to know
Monday,
01-Nov-1999 16:41:26
I
noticed that you can press the up and down arrows to scroll through the
last few commands. Very useful for repetitive tasks like attacking a dummy
or putting multiple items in a sack/backback/pouch.
Otter
(aka "Lutrus")
Quit rippin'
people off, Vino. ;)
Saturday,
13-Nov-1999 22:51:58
Why
d'ya only have Harach's prices fer armor in that "armor set" part? It's
like dat Microsoft monopoly in ancient Rome or something....;) Bragan in
Vetallun is tons cheaper on shin greaves and lorica's, among other things...Quit
rippin' innocent newbies off...I don't care how much commission Harach
pays. 8)
(Hey,
a guy's gotta make a sen er two somehow, eh? - Vino)
Lanamor
Great
site, just a little thing to mention...
Friday,
19-Nov-1999 04:05:54
Hey
Vino, it is about the "macro toolbar" you advise for advanced players who
already hunt in the dumps to ungroup stomach, look in stomach
and discard stomach.
A
more efficient way is:
Take
stomach, empty stomach into my <container> (thats a variable)
and then discard stomach.
If
there is a group of stomachs you will still take it, but you can discard
it right away.
Looking
does not provide any use at all, since empty will empty it if something
is in it, and if not not. :)
Regards
Theo
P.S.
This Site is even better then your first one :)
Theo
Easy denars
fast
Saturday,
11-Dec-1999 12:06:52
One
can make a lot of money fast by going to the bandit forest during the day
(safer) and get many sacks (they're everywhere). Wear as many as you can.
Cover them by wearing a sagum (if you have one). Find all the small chests
you can. Put the chests in your different sacks until you can't carry anymore.
Go to Apula's..she'll buy most chests for 7d. An industrious soul that
doesn't mind a little legwork can make a lot of denars fast. Also while
in the bandit forest..look around a lot..you'll be amazed at what people
leave laying around. One day I found 7 pouches and they all had gems in
them worth 600 d total.
Calixto
Armor
Prices
Saturday,
05-Feb-2000 13:37:13
Hey,
good site. Nice layout. One problem: The Phylax is 480 at Waike's. Not
300. Also, for people who like to buy everything at once, I calculated
the prices for each set. #1=1683, #2=5018, #3=8435. Just so you know.
( Prices have been known
to change in Iridine without notice. Let me know of any price changes you
become aware of, due credit will be given for such corrections. - Vino)
Henry
Juanes aka. Antequides
Constable,
arrest that man!
Tuesday, 15-Feb-2000 17:21:34
When that thief grabs your
sack outta your hands and stand there laughing at you because he's wearing
a lorica hamata...
or you see a guy in a hood
or mask just standing around chatting like he's a respectable citizen or
something...
or when that jerk of a warrior
attacks you because he don't like the way you looked at his girlfriend...
don't just whine about it!
Have them arrested!
As much as I despise those
soft-bellied, underworked, overpaid connies it makes sense to me to put
'em to work when there is work to be done that you can't handle yerself.
Hey, Vino knows that not everyone in town is as good a warrior as he is.
So when you see someone engaged in illegal behavior, point them out to
the connies and let 'em do some good fer a change. To show someone to a
constable - command string look for constable -then- show <whoever>
to constable
If they are doing something
illegal, then the connie will take it from there. Remember to refer to
those in masks or hoods as "man" or "woman".
Vino Nuovo, the drunken
warrior
Somethin'
to write home to momma about...
Tuesday, 15-Feb-2000 17:28:45
Writing is a skill that
any character can perform, provided they have a modicum of intelligence
(check yer stats). It require that you hold a quill pen and something to
write on (vellum, parchment, etc.). You will also need a well of ink (inkwell)
to dip the pen in before each writing.
Command strings:
Get pen
Get <parchment/vellum/whatever>
Open jar
Dip pen in inkwell
Close jar
Write on <parchment/vellum/whatever>
That's it, nothing to it.
These papers that you write on can be posted on the postboards that hang
in any of the inns or taverns in Iridine or the surrounding villages.
Hang <parchment/vellum/whatever>
on board
Vino Nuovo, the drunken
warrior
Free learning
Tuesday, 15-Feb-2000 17:50:33
If you haven't notice yet,
you soon will. But teachers in Iridine charge more and more the higher
the rank you want to learn. And when you get to ranks like 20, 25 or 30
the cost is simply ludicrous. You can get your learning fer free if you
know or can find someone with a higher rank than yours.
The fact is, anyone with
a rank of 10 or better can teach. Just find someone who is willing
to take a second of thier time to demonstrate thier skill to you and, while
they are demonstrating, use the command string - learn <skill> from
<whoever>
And if you want to teach
someone your skill use the command string - teach <skill>
Simple as that. You will
automatically use your skill points to increase your rank and it won't
cost you a sen. Unless, of course, the only teacher you can find is that
jerk grandmaster who wants to charge a mere 50 denar less than the 500
that Gilven wants. Don't ye just hate that guy?
Vino Nuovo, the drunken
warrior
Aim fer the heart
Tuesday, 15-Feb-2000 17:55:37
When attacking a creature
who's blocks are preventing you from skewering him you can aim your attacks
at specific portions of thier anatomy that have weaker, or no, block manuveurs/armor
covering them. Not to mention, attacks that land, say, on the other guy's
head, do more damage. Not all creatures or opponents you meet will have
such "weak spots" so you should learn which ones do before relying
on it. Also, it isn't really useful save to those whose skills are unusually
high to begin with. Aiming is a very difficult thing to do and can add
about +50% to your chance to hit. But, for low-ranking warriors, if you
can't hit that damned thug anyway go ahead and go for it. No matter what,
you will always have at least a 5% chance of hitting.
The main use of this command,
however, is in facing those opponents whose armor is incomplete or who
have such tough armor as lorica or muscle cuirass. Such opponents may or
may not have pteryges and such to protect the rest of thier bodies but
such peripheral armor is still easier to penetrate than a lorica or mail
cuirass. If, for instance, you faced a fellow player intent on hacking
you to bit-size pieces and find that he is wearing a lorica that absorbs
all your strikes, but no helmet. Well, you just aim your attacks at his
head and forget about trying to get through that lorica.
Bear in mind that manuveurs
tend to aim themselves at certain areas anyway (ex: chop to the head, neck
and shoulder; slash to the thighs, waist, etc.) So if you already have
these manuveurs (and you should) use them instead as they have roughly
the same chance to hit as a regular attack. You would then want to use
this command only if you are highly skilled and facing an opponent who
you can hit but cannot damage because of his/it's armor, and you would
want to aim at such unprotected areas as hand, foot and face.
Command string - <attack>
<what> <where>
Examples: slash alligator
leg or attack bandit face or chop rat head
Vino Nuovo, the drunken
warrior
The
rest about rest...
It
has been well established that, when fatigued, you should rest in the Riverside
Baths. But there are other ways of getting rest. Certainly you can just
sit, stand or lay around anywhere and rest but it is at a rate that is
maddeningly slow. Three other methods of rest exist, besides the baths,
that you may not know about.
1-
Inn rooms.
Not only do inn rooms provide a semi-secure place to store your stuff but
laying in the bed allows you to rest at a much faster rate than just laying
around anywhere else. Not only that, but exitting the game while laying
in bed in your inn room allows your character to continue to rest right
up until you return to the game. That means you can turn the game off and
come back in a half-hour and find your character completely rested up and
ready to hunt.
2
- Lean-to's. While
only outdoorsmen can build lean-to's, anyone can enter and lay in one.
They provide the same benefits as inn rooms and can be found in all kinds
of places. There are at least a couple of them in the bandit woods, for
example. To enter a lean-to just go lean. To exit just type leave.
3
- Blankets. Blankets can be purchased in some shops in the game
(not sure which ones or for how much). They give you bonuses like the inns
and lean-to's but I am, frankly, unaware of whether the rate of resting
is the same. (I have never owned a blanket but one time. And even then
I discarded the thing because I didn't know it had any use.) To use the
blanket lay down, get blanket and pull blanket
over you. (Sorry,
the blanket no longer works while you are logged out. Still not really
sure if they even provide a bonus to recovery while you are in-game. Anyone
who knows, lemme know. - Vino)
Vino Nuovo, the drunken
warrior *Thanks
to Maleud and Trump for correction and affirmation of lean-to
commands.
Input on Archers
Friday, 25-Feb-2000 05:28:18
First off, a great site,
Vino. Sure could have used it in my day...
Anyway, reading through
your hunting section, I notice that you wanted some information on bandit
archers. Well, here's what I have to say about them:
Nasty, nasty buggers. Only
recently with the missile-bow overhaul, bandit archers are not just a nuicance
anymore, but deadly. They only travel with their buddies the spear wielders,
and they take pot-shots at you while their friends stick you in the guts
with their spears. Their aim has improved greatly so, most shots find their
mark... might want some good armor to ward off their shots.
I see two strategies
when dealing with them.
1) Use a distance
weapon like a stave or spear to take them out first, then focus on the
regular bandits.
2) Scatter the group.
Archers get scared and run off when you engage them. This is usually difficult
to do since you usually have bandits engaging you and preventing you from
reaching the archers. Once the group scatters, you can run down individuals
and pick them off one by one.
Minos
Archer Bandits
Thursday, 24-Feb-2000 18:53:51
While his time was short
in the game and spent very fruitlessly, Antequides had killed an archer
or two. They have the usual stuff on them, plus a quiver (which you can
use as a pouch, think about it. No theif would steal a quiver.), and are
very xenophobic. Killing one is the same as killing a worn rat, they will
constantly retreat. If you want to kill one, keep tabs on where they run
to after they retreat as they are very quick. They are pretty weak, a few
well placed hits will kill them.
Baird
Armor
Suggestion
Tuesday, 29-Aug-2000 05:11:54
For the beginning Newbie
Warrior I suggest a small regime of armor to begin with.
1) Wool Leggings,
though don't get the brighter colors, they may charge you more, though
I hear newbies are charged less for alot of things, normally a color like
red, blue, yellow, etc... will cost double a base color like Black, tan,
or white.
2) a nice woolen
tunic. Easily obtainable in the allies often times, but don't
dare buy the one at Harach's It's a rip. You can also buy one at the Tailor's
3) Sandals,
an ally frequent the Sandal is found simply with a walk through.
4) A pouch
also found likely in the Allies in the many fighters will just drop these
like the sandals. these will also provide a minimal amount of protection.
This armament will prepare
you for the simple road ahead has you start your way out in life anything
else will really just be extra at this point till you're past signal tower
island. This armament will last you a good while and, should you scavange
well, only cost you 6 denar for the leggings.
(^_^) Jetal, "wool is armor
too *tries to keep a straight face*"
Jetal
Healers
and warriors
Friday, 22-Sep-00 16:13:46
...to all you warriors.ALWAYS
PAY YOUR HEALERS.even though you may not have much, please do. We don't
get paid any other way and we need to live too. We still need to buy food
and clothes and everything else you do, except that we need supplies like
painkillers and you are our only income. Most healers don't have anything
else other than basic clothes so, when you're low on cash, ask them if
they would like that nice toga you found, or that old cloak you don't want
anymore. While this might sound like a whine, all I am saying is that you
need to treat us well. Because when you are bleeding in the caves or in
the dump or wherever, chances are you are far from Fiona or the hospice
and it's those new healers that come to the rescue. Don't discourage them
by not paying. Think of it as life insurance. HEALERS ARE YOUR BEST FRIENDS,
WARRIORS!!! TREAT THEM WELL.
Also, thieves, don't steal
from us. It's pointless and the vigilantes love the chance of protecting
us. You can have morals, too.
( Well, perhaps not morals
but at least good business sense - Vino ;)
Lemain
More tips on thwartin' thieves
Monday, 15-Jan-01 12:38:48
Well I was reading your
section on how to piss off thieves and keep your sack and I thought of
something that will help newbies. Keeping your money in the bank
is the safest way to keep your money out of the grubby finger thieves in
Iridine, but before you go into the bank here are some good tips:
1. Make sure
that you know what you are going to do there (i.e. Im going to deposit
money and take out 20 denars, I am going to store a sac in the bank, etc.).
2. You should
keep your hands empty when you go into the bank, unless you are going to
store something then you should have that in your hands. (Because the clerk
now puts your coins in your hands when you withdraw money).
3. You should
store the things in your hands first before you do anything else. (So you
don't accidently drop your sack and someone picks it up).
4. Use the
"my" command for all containers to store things in them. (I have seen people
leave sack on the floor and wait for some one to put the money/items they
just took out of the bank and put it into the sac that is on the ground.
This has happened to me and it stinks when you don't know where you lost
it).
5. If you withdraw
an item from the Bank make sure you are watching the screen and are ready
to grab your item off the counter when the clerk sets it down. (I made
a macro that I hit once I see the person return from the back room).
That should help newbies
not get swindled at the bank. Also the first thing you should get
in the game if you are a newbie is a sagum. This will save you much
heartache since most thieves have to know what you have to steal it.
Ancus Marcius
Retreat!
Retreat!
Sunday, 14-Jan-01 19:39:54
Hey vino on your combat
section's how:to
where you tell then how
to actually fight you might want to include that if you type RETREAT N
or whatever direction you want...once you retreat you automatically go
that direction.
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