We almost made it, but our van broke down 1000 feet from the Florida state line. We had it towed to Fred's house and started work the very next day.

Fred played an integral part in helping us to develop our sound. Aaron, our singer, has an amazing voice and Fred helped to bring that out. We had a lot of screaming parts in our songs. Fred said, "Man, you can sing, why don't you do that more?" The trip was very productive because we reworked 4 of our songs and played a KILLER sold out show in their hometown of Jax.

While there, Fred contacted Jordan Schur, the President of Flip Records. Fred told Jordan about us and within a week of leaving Jacksonville, we were on a plane to L.A. where we met Jordan and recorded a 3 song sampler.