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More men are realizing what I stumbled upon back in high school. That there is nothing that pisses a woman off more than ignoring her. I have actually seen some women claim that them getting ignored was "abuse."



A must read for young men

Neal wrote:
If there is one piece of tactical knowledge modern man needs to add, it's the female hot button: being ignored.

Shit, Neal, and just when I thought I was going to get something done today - you pop in with the best post I have seen in a long time.

I would like to take your tactical point, and expand it to show how it works STRATEGICALLY.

Once men understand WHY being ignored is so devastating to women, we will have a weapon of unbelievable power.

I'm not going to write a thesis on this, so just let me say that I have researched the hell out of this and can provide all the citations and evidence – the outline will be presented in sound bites.

Everywhere in nature, the male is the reproductive servant of the female. This goes down to the level of plants which have "male" and "female" parts.

The ripening of an egg, or ovum, is a time and energy intensive job, so the male is designed to be ready to fertilize that ovum when the female notifies him that she is "ready."

In the rest of the natural world, females announce their readiness to the entire world with a variety of cues - smell being the most significant, but visual cues come in a close second.

When a female chimpanzee is in estrus, her genitals swell up and become a SPECIFIC shade of bright pink. Jane Goodall observed one such female whose genitals could be seen from across a valley - nearly a mile or two away.

There is a species of fish in which the belly of the female turns a particular shade of red when she is gravid. A block of wood with the lower half painted that exact shade of red will drive males into a mating frenzy.

Smell is even more important. There are MANY species in which a female in heat gives off pheromones which are specific to that species which can be picked up by males as much as 5 miles away.

OK, now here is the bombshell which usually blows a lot of men's groups apart. One of the most destructive concepts we have against us is creation isms. Unless people are able to see that humans are part of the natural world and ruled by the same influences as all other living things, they are able to believe that change can be imposed "top down" by some sort of outside authority, instead of arising inevitably from our inherent natures.

Jamichael - this would be our "is-ness" - our inherent nature which makes us what we are, and not what we are not.

Mating behavior does NOT get mediated in the new brain, or the cortex. It happens in the brain stem and spinal cord, the old or "reptile" brain.

In the days when such experiments were still allowed, you could open a cat's skull and suck out all the cortex. Sexual and mating behavior was not affected at all, but social behavior was destroyed.

Human females have introduced a new factor in the game - they ovulate COVERTLY. There is no way to tell when they are fertile and when they aren't - although we are beginning to hear about studies which suggest that women on the pill smell differently.

The human male adaptation to this has been to pay greater attention to women and the subtle cues they give off that they are fertile. These are these "signals" that women always talk about giving off and getting so angry at men when they don't pick up on them.

The problem lies in the fact that women have become adept at FAKING these cues in order to trigger men's mating responses - thus giving them huge amounts of power to manipulate men. Men react in their spinal cords to a woman's facial lips reddened with lipstick, exactly the same way they would react to a different set of lips reddened with sexual ripeness.

Purely FEMALE power depends entirely on how many males she can capture the attention of. The more males vying for the chance to fertilize her egg, the more CHOICES she has.

So, when women like Andrea Dworkin say they have no power, they are speaking the absolute truth. She has no FEMALE power because she is ugly as sin and men run in the other direction screaming. So, she wants MALE power.

In Warren Farrel's one really good book, "Why men are the way they are" he talks about females becoming used to being "genetic celebrities" and men being "genetic groupies."

Women grow up being accustomed to having to do nothing more than show up in order to be the center of male attention. Like any child, their behavior gets shaped to maximize the rewards they get, and by two years after they hit puberty most females are masters of the art of sexual manipulation.

This is the reason for the extreme restrictions placed on girls in tribal cultures where the kind of endlessly self-centered manipulation of immature females would destroy the tribe. Women in the middle east wear the burqa and women in Africa take little girls and cut their genitals OFF because purely selfish behavior will destroy the cohesiveness of the tribe which is essential for its survival.

The old structure of marriage was designed mostly to benefit older women because the power of a young fertile female over men of all ages is universal. By locking people into a marriage which could not be broken, women were guaranteed to be cared for into old age. The smarter ones used the years of their peak sexual attractiveness to build emotional bonds with their husbands which would endure into their "not sopretty years."

When women got "liberated" from all this, the culture was thrown back to a situation where sexual power was everything. And, so far the first two quarters of the gender war have been fought in women's territory when they did still have sexual power.

But, things are changing. The boomers are getting old, and boomer men are losing interest in women at the same time that boomer women are getting so ugly that no one takes an interest in them. Chapin's series about the "Quagmire of Older Women" is dead on target.

I totally disagree with Mike. If men allow women to get away with the shit they have gotten away with, and come in and rescue women from the painful consequences of it, there will be no learning at the cultural level.

The strategy which I believe will work for men is the equivalent of the labor management practice of a "lockout." Women wanted out of the system as it was, OK. Now that they are out, we don't let them back in.

There is a great old story about PT Barnum. One of his shows was so successful that the crowds were becoming dangerous. People were so packed that there was a real danger of some of them getting trampled. So, he had his carnies open some of the gates and his barkers start shouting "This way to see the great EGRESS!"

The herd surged through the gates and found out that "egress" means "exit."

I believe that natural forces are going to rule the day and that they are already in motion and already having an effect - I believe they are what is responsible for the effects that you are seeing, Neal. As decent men have gone on a marriage strike, the sneaky fuckers have moved in. (that is the actual name of an anthropological theory)

The birth rate in the black community has not fallen a bit from the destruction of the black family. I know one black guy who has 6-7 women he boinks on a regular basis. Black women are pretty hard up because so many black men are in prison and so many of them are dying so young.

So, back to your point about ignoring women, it is more than just a tactic for an individual man to use, it is a culture level STRATEGY for men which will have women screaming for their men back in no time at all.

And, Mike is completely full of shit on his "turn the other cheek and don't take revenge on women" point.

Boomer men OWE it to younger men to make life as miserable as we possibly can for boomer women. OK, now here is where the fact that I am NOT a Christian really begins to come out.

Buddhists don't believe in "salvation." We believe in karma. Everyone suffers according to the level of their own bullshit.

When that dumb mother fucking televangelist called for "forgiveness" of Karla Faye Tucker because at the last moment she "found the lord," I went berserk.

Women have made their bed, and if men do not make them lie in it, then men have asked for all the shit they have gotten and I will cease to have any sympathy at all for them.

I simply cannot go back to the innocent optimism that I had when I was a teen-aged boy. I have personally been burned so many times, and seen every man I know burned so many times, that I am no longer "Charlie Brown, the sincere BLOCKHEAD," willing to be made a fool of ONE MORE TIME by Lucy who suckers me into believing that she will do what she promises, but a cagey old curmudgeon who simply expects women to lie and cannot be hoodwinked by their lies.

Men now must completely destroy marriage. It is too corrupt and too fouled to fix. It is a derelict building which MUST be torn down so that something useful can be built in its place.

We cannot stop the marriage strike. The real "men's movement" is millions of wildcat strikes of one man who has woken up to what bullshit "marriage" as it exists today really is.

No matter how big a dam one builds, a river will ALWAYS overcome it. We cannot either push, or hold back, the river. It will proceed at its own pace.

We can however, clear out the snags which naturally hold it back and let natural forces speed up the current.

Women have turned their backs on us when WE needed THEM. Now we must turn our backs on them when THEY need US.