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6/02

This page is to help others and myself review peoples past statements and beliefs. The Lord is my witness that these are the statements in whole, unedited, and to the best of my knowledge not out of context either. If one says something on the web they should be willing to have it viewed by all, either that or they should stop saying what they say. In fact they should be perpared to have it reprinted here or in the daily newspaper for that matter... Some will say... "But you didn't enclude what stupid things Christians say as well." Oh! yes I did! Some I'm sure in time will have a problem with this page, so far those that know about it for the most part have shown support for it... and the others, the ones that don't like it or agree with it... tough titty said the momma cat to the kitty... don't come here. The only editing that will be done is if one does a "wame = same" typo correction. Some might say, well you'll just add false statements, lies about those that are against you or your God... it's my God that keeps me in check of false witnessing, and I don't take it lightly how Father views thoses that slander others. Some of these rooms have full time bots logging all the chats, if someone is in doubt about what they say, ask for the logs and you will see, you did say just that. Don't get so drunk you can't remember what you said next time, or what ever the cause might be that keeps you from remembering.
Nooooo I didn't enclude the stupid things I said, what ya think I'm stupid!!! LOL

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#cw = #ChristianWarrior
#c = #Christian
#c^ = #Christian^
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#i = Islam
cst = central standard time. Texas time!

[01:25] 7/01/02 #C^ sweatshopworker> http://www.tencommandments.cjb.net/ Let's get the Ten Commandments back in our schools!!!!!!!!!!

[18:10]CST 7/01/02 #C Truthspeakerjh> The United States of America where the local community decides what really occurs

[18:11]CST 7/01/02 #C^ TuxThePenguin`> oh yeah. rice cakes. I saw LOTS of them in the store.
TuxThePenguin`> different flavors too!
TuxThePenguin`> I even ALMOST bought some rice cakes. then I came to my senses.

[22:57] cst 7/01/02 #C kengibson> I know darn well online that I am an ass
kengibson> Theism sucks
HolyIsTheLord> for those wanting more information about the trinity here is a good explanation http://www.bible.org/docs/theology/proper/trinity.htm
[22:57] *** SaffyPirate was kicked by StJohnCalvin (please use other language)
[22:57] *** Joins: SaffyPirate (SaffyPirat@pool-64-222-41-153.prov.east.verizon.net)
SaffyPirate> please learn how to kick the right people
SaffyPirate> thank you
[22:57] *** kengibson was kicked by StJohnCalvin (please use other language)
[22:57] *** Joins: kengibson (kengibson2@ppp-173.190.triton.net)
kengibson> Got kicked for saying s****
kengibson> Gosh Fundies these days will kick for anything
Sara_Ks> We even kick for idiocy
HolyIsTheLord> lol
SaffyPirate> Of course, you can kick for whatever you want
Sara_Ks> SaffyPirate No, we can't kick for whatever we want, there are rules
SaffyPirate> ops aren't questioned by other ops so you can say someone was a general annoyance and not have to mention it again
Sara_Ks> SaffyPirate ops are questioned about kicks. Ask them.
SaffyPirate> and you get a nasty message or kicked yourself

[03:43]CST 07/02/02 #CD KingJehu> I judge people to "be" stupid all the time... I'm sorry, I try not to, but some people, after you get to know them, you have not choice but to come to the conclusion that they are "stupid people."
Cripes if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black!

[22:55] *** Set by PaperCup on Wed Jul 03 17:30:56 [Channel Whois for #ChristianWarrior       ] Topic: [Dannyza] PaperCup Satan is good <----- any comments from our Jewish scholar ??? (please be nice)
Created: Tue Jul 02 15:19:44 2002

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7/6/02 #CD [11:42] *** Aminadabb was kicked by ChanServ (User has been banned from the channel)
subroutine-> awwwww
subroutine-> and Aminadabb was such great entertainment
goshua> any christians here?
Donalbain> Who banned aminadabb? Thats no fun!
goshua> anyone who bans someone should themselves be banned:)
subroutine-> "no Fun" = "High value in control and order"
goshua> they have the nerve to call themselves christians when they need to ban people?
subroutine-> goshua: know them By Thier Fruit
Charismata> goshua, whining is a ban offense...please stop if you do not want a trip to bootsville yourself
subroutine-> goshua: know them By Thier Fruit ;)
subroutine-> if thier fruit is cowardly censorship and hostile exclusion, accept that Witness and learn from it
subroutine-> if it's love and acceptance, then accept that too
Donalbain> unlike Charismata who is just extra chunky.
goshua> they would still have great pleasure in burning/stoning people to death if it was still permissible?
Charismata> subroutine-, what is so wonderful about freedom is that it allows another freedom besides freedom of speech... its called freedom of association... we are free to associate with people who dont whine
Charismata> both of you are working on a ban...I suggest you debate and stop sucking your thumbs and whining
* Donalbain idly notes that the American Constitution doesnt apply here anyway. :)
subroutine-> Christians have every right to act like humans, no matter what claims they make about being "born-again"
[11:50] *** Charismata sets mode: +b *!*fark@66.214.139.*
[11:50] *** subroutine- was kicked by Charismata (Charismata)
Charismata> 1 down 1 to go
Charismata> you were saying goshua?
goshua> *sigh*
[11:55] *** Charismata changes topic to 'Please check your window... #whiners is further down on the list of channels'
goshua> would you people rejoice in stoning burning so called witches, rebellious children and prostitutues etc if it were still permissible as it was in the day of the ot?
[11:56] *** Disconnected
Disco'ed! Arggg, odds are goshua didn't last much longer anyway... but you see whats going on here... trolling, these people aren't there to debate... they're just there to attack and defame Christians as a whole... one must have to ask why they would care if we are Christians, whats it matter to them?

7/7/02 [02:50] blemishedlamb> come to think of it Argentina is looking for a new direction, maybe Arafat and the palestinians could do a better job there
LOL funny!

7/1402 #cd [19:13] gauss> there used to be a room on DalNet for discussing the Bible.
Salvaged> gauss yes it use to be called #ChristianDebate
gauss> salvaged: that's what I was remembering. what happened to it?
Salvaged> gauss they athiest love us so much they cant stay away!!!
gauss> salvaged: they're drawn to what is missing in their lives, namely God
Salvaged> gauss thats my guess as well but dont tell them that... they get mad...
gauss> salvaged: otherwise, why would they care what we think?
Salvaged>I have asked them that many times... they say they dont... but i cant tell?
gauss> salvaged: If they don't care, how do they explain their presence here?\
Zod> Salvaged: I care very much.
Salvaged> Zod you care about what? What Christians think? I suspect most atheist in their heart do as well, and are seeking to understand why we believe in God and they dont... which in a sence is them searching for God... or truth.
If he answered I didnt see it...

7/14/02 [19:55] #cd Calcedon> Hitler liked Darwin's racist message also.
AtheistGod> darwin's racist message? what racist message from darwin?
Munin> Calcedon: what racist message was that?
Calcedon> HItler understood Darwinism as a way to bring about the Uberman.
AtheistGod> Social Darwinism didn't come from darwin himself - and Hilter's "social darwinism" was a bastardization of social darwanisim
KingJehu> Darwin was a bigot, a women hater and wrong about many things. He viewed whites better then blacks, and liken women to not much better then dogs, which he didnt like much either lol, many scientist agreed with him, including Romanes, paleontologist Edward Drinker Cope, Gould, to name a few.....
KingJehu> Darwin reasoned that as a married man he would be a "poor slave, . . . worse than a Negro," but then reminisces that, "one cannot live the solitary life, with groggy old age, friendless ... and childless staring in one's face...." Darwin concludes his discussion on the philosophical note, "there is many a happy slave" and shortly thereafter, married (1958:234).
AtheistGod> KingJehu: trap of the time
KingJehu> Darwin concluded that adult females of most species resembled the young of both sexes and from this and the other evidence, "reasoned that males are more evolutionarily advanced than females" (Kevles, 1986:8). Many anthropologists contemporary to Darwin concluded that "women's brains were analogous to those of animals," which had "overdeveloped" sense organs "to the detriment of the brain" (Fee, 1979:418).
KingJehu> AtheistGod you asked for them
KingJehu> AtheistGod> darwin's racist message? what racist message from darwin? <----- see
KingJehu> im giving you what you aksed for
AtheistGod> KingJehu: i'm probably not familiar with the crap because it was distilled out
KingJehu> Carl Vogt, a University of Geneva natural history professor who accepted many of "the conclusions of England's great modern naturalist, Charles Darwin," argued that "the child, the female, and the senile white" all had the intellect and nature of the "grown up Negro" (1863:192).
AtheistGod> KingJehu: i get your point
KingJehu> AtheistGod theres much more
Zod> KingJehu: Saying that darwin being "racist" means anything in regards to evolution is ad-hom.
AtheistGod> KingJehu: nobody said darwin was perfect, we said he had one good idea atleast
KingJehu> would you like to see all he had to say about women?
AtheistGod> Zod: thank you
KingJehu> AtheistGod but you asked this
KingJehu> AtheistGod> darwin's racist message? what racist message from darwin? <----- see... you asked for them
Zod> ok, King.
KingJehu> So i am showing you them
Zod> No need to spam the same quote 3 times.
AtheistGod> King: I SAID I GOT YOUR POINT I SAW THE MESSAGE THREE TIMES NOW
AtheistGod> KingJehu: and as Zod said - it's irrevelant to his theory and it's ad Hom
mannagirl> rofl
KingJehu> Zod if he doesnt understand the first two times when posting it... then yes it does
AtheistGod> KingJehu: you can drop it now
KingJehu> AtheistGod YOU ASKED!!!
* mannagirl hands atheistgod a cheese cube
KingJehu> if you dont want to know then dont ask
gauss> king: he wants to drop it now that he lost
KingJehu> ohhhhh
AtheistGod> mannagirl: thank you :P
AtheistGod> KingJehu: and i said i got your point
KingJehu> well in that case "dropped"
Grugg> lol, what argument was lost? All I see is a bunch of Darwin-bashing.
gauss> king: you might want to save a copy of this conversation for next time to show atheistgod's concesssion that daarwin was wrong

[05:23] *** Quits: kermit4jc (Quit: Panic...chaos...disorder...yep, my work here is done! :P)
lol Got to love that sign off, especially if you know Froggie... cause he is such a loving Christian, so much more then me to my own shame, God smiles at him

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7/16/02[21:05] #cd Ad_Hoc> Sastra, i don't think JesusIsLord is in the least interested in facts here.
[21:06] * angelle looks at Ad_Hoc .... don't be insulting please
Ad_Hoc> i haven't been.
7/18/02 [03:02] JesusIsLord> Ubermage the people with HIV are raping babies in south africa. They think it will cure their aids. Maybe that is why people shun them
Ubermage> JesusIsLord: and the babies who got raped and infected with HIV: do they deserve shunning?
Ad_Hoc> JesusIsLord: do you have any support for that statement?
JesusIsLord> http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/africa/11/26/safrica.rape/index.html ad_hoc read it and weap
Ad_Hoc> why would I weep?
JesusIsLord> Ad_Hoc why would you weep? I cry for the poor kids attacked by the aids infected rapists
JesusIsLord> Ad_Hoc dont you?
Ad_Hoc> JesusIsLord: no, i don't.
JesusIsLord> Ad_Hoc you accused me of lying when I pointed out the fact that people with AIDS were raping children in africa to try and cure themselves. I pointed out the cnn report on it, are you ready to be a man and admit you were wrong?
JesusIsLord> Ad_Hoc 21000 cases in a year!
Ad_Hoc> JesusIsLord: i did not accuse you of lying. Nice try. Are YOU ready to admit that you were wrong, and I did not do so?
JesusIsLord> Ad_Hoc you implied it
Ad_Hoc> ah, now instead of "accusing", I "implied" it? So your original statement WAS wrong. So is this one. I did not imply it.
Ad_Hoc> JesusIsLord: any time you're ready to apologise, go for it.
JesusIsLord> Ad_Hoc you also asked why you should weep for the kids who were victums
Ad_Hoc> JesusIsLord: don't change the subject, please.
JesusIsLord> Ad_Hoc have you no heart?
JesusIsLord> Ad_Hoc its no longer in my scroll buffer
Ad_Hoc> JesusIsLord, let's stick to one error at a time, shall we?
JesusIsLord> or id cut and paste it
Ad_Hoc> JesusIsLord: you made two statements about what I said; both are incorrect. Will you apologise?
JesusIsLord> Ad_Hoc if you admit to the fact that thousands of children are being raped by people with aids in south africa. I will appologize
Ad_Hoc> JesusIsLord: i have no need to admit to it. YOU have the need to apologise for misstating what I said.
JesusIsLord> Ad_Hoc if you admit you are sad for the victums I will appologize
Ad_Hoc> whether or not I'm sad for the victims has nothing to do with it. You were wrong; you should apologise.
JesusIsLord> Ad_Hoc you are a wase of my time, you are on /ignore
Ad_Hoc> JesusIsLord: i should have known better than to try to get you to be reasonable.
JesusIsLord> Why is it that atheists come here with nothing better to do but bash on God and Christ
Gankaku> †JesusIsLord† they serve their father well
Ad_Hoc> gee, last i heard, calling people "children of satan" was against channel rules.
Ad_Hoc> personally, ever christian i ever met had some serious problems
[03:20] *** Ad_Hoc was kicked by Gankaku (Questioning the rules in channel is against the rules - by the book)
KJV John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
KJV 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

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7/19/02 #CD [20:56] Shamil_Basayiv> anyone heard about the new fossil skull found in the central africa , I heard that this fossil has set the cat among the pigeons in the world of evolution
Ad_Hoc> Shamil_Basayiv: then you heard wrong.
Ad_Hoc> Shamil_Basayiv, where'd you hear that? From some creationist?
Shamil_Basayiv> Ad_Hoc I didnt check it myself but what I heard is that this fossil is 7 million years old, it has a more "human-like" structure than the 5 million-year-old ape species that is alleged to be mankind's oldest ancestor
Ad_Hoc> Shamil_Basayiv: well perhaps you should check it yourself. Or at least consult a science source to find out whether it has "set the cat among the pigeons in the world of evolution". It hasn't.
Shamil_Basayiv> Ad_Hoc you seem to be quite knowlegable of this issue,perhaps you have a refernce that could help enlighten me
Ad_Hoc> Shamil_Basayiv, go to any science site on the subject
[21:17]Shamil_Basayiv> Ad_Hoc , New-found skull could sink our current ideas about human evolution : http://www.nature.com/nsu/020708/020708-12.html (science source)
KingAfk> Shamil_Basayiv> anyone heard about the new fossil skull found in the central africa , I heard that this fossil has set the cat among the pigeons in the world of evolution Ad_Hoc> Shamil_Basayiv: then you heard wrong. <------ NO you where wrong, that or your going to try some lame thing like... where does it say it let the cat out among the pigeons, lol and say thats what you meant by he was wrong now, BUT he was right, and YOU where wrong... Ad_Hoc,
KingAfk> [21:17]Shamil_Basayiv> Ad_Hoc , New-found skull could sink our current ideas about human evolution : http://www.nature.com/nsu/020708/020708-12.html (science source)
KingAfk> that site YOU sent him to backed everything he said up Ad_Hoc you where wrong "
Ad_Hoc> lol...nothing in that article suggests anything like "the cat being set amongh the pigeons". It's an older fossil than we've preivously found...so man's "family tree" will be revised. So what?
KingAfk> see Ad_Hoc now your going to say "it didnt say" anything like "the cat being set amongh the pigeons".
KingAfk> I knew it
Ad_Hoc> because it didn't. How dare i?
KingAfk> Toumaï is the tip of that iceberg - one that could sink our current ideas about human evolution. "Anybody who thinks this isn't going to get more complex isn't learning from history," says Wood.
KingAfk> Ad_Hoc you knew what he meant. its just a cop out
Ad_Hoc> oh, has he gone? shame, I'd like to have steered him straight about the article.
KingAfk> Ad_Hoc the article is clear... Toumaï is the tip of that iceberg - one that could sink our current ideas about human evolution. "Anybody who thinks this isn't going to get more complex isn't learning from history," says Wood.
Ad_Hoc> adamfreed: that's nice. However, you STILL demonstrate you known nothing about the science you attempt to disaparage.
KingAfk> Ad_Hoc one doesnt need to know how to build a house to tear a house down... :P
Gankaku> Laughs Out Loud KingAfk
Machindo> KingAfk, it's brain is no larger than a chimps and it has HUGE eyebrows... how is it more human than the australopithecines?
Bonz> KingAfk: It helps of you can tell a house from a rock
KingAfk> Machindo hey go to the url and email them
Machindo> KingAfk, email them what?
KingAfk> Bonz some houses are made of rock
Ad_Hoc> yeah, go to the url and complain because some people who don't understand evolution misinterpreted their article
KingAfk> Machindo email them they are the ones saying it...
Machindo> KingAfk, saying what?
KingAfk> Many of Toumaï's advanced features are missing from later fossils such as Australopithecus, but reappear in still later species that are classified as Homo.
KingAfk> Machindo that for one
nEwCrEaTiOn> Machindo the article says it has things that later hominids didnt have yet
KingAfk> so you are right and them scientist are wrong... Machindo so email them about it
Machindo> KingAfk, where did you read about it? Maybe you read something I didn't
Bonz> KingAfk: There is no such thing as an "advanced feature"
Ad_Hoc> Machindo: http://www.nature.com/nsu/020708/020708-12.html
KingAfk> Bonz tell that to the scientist... you know more then them... email them and tell them
Machindo> Ad_Hoc, is that the article he's referring to?
Ad_Hoc> Machindo: i believe so
KingAfk> yes
Machindo> ok, brb...
KingAfk> Bonz its science saying this... so take it up with them now me
Bonz> KingAfk: No, it is not science saying that
nEwCrEaTiOn> bah...who do people refer to when they say science and scientists
Ad_Hoc> nEwCrEaTiOn, creationists mean whatever best supports their case that week
Ad_Hoc> nEwCrEaTiOn, creationists mean whatever best supports their case that week
nEwCrEaTiOn> i think scientists are like the masons heh
KingAfk> Bonz yes they are scientist... says anthropologist Bernard Wood of George Washington University in Washington DC.
Bonz> KingAfk: No, they are people who read a scientist's article, and didn't understand it
Munin> KingAfk: where was it published?
KingAfk> nature
Munin> was it a peer reviewed periodical? what was the reaction?
KingAfk> says anthropologist Bernard Wood of George Washington University in Washington DC!!!!!
Bonz> KingAfkL What journal was it in?
Ad_Hoc> rofl
KingAfk> Bonz are you even a anthropologist
Bonz> KingAfk: If it said that, it was not by a scientist
Munin> KingAfk: I am
KingAfk> Bonz nature
Munin> well, sort of, got a BA in anthropology
Munin> KingAfk: so what is he saying?
Bonz> KingAfk: You are not quoting from NATURE
KingAfk> back Bonz YES it is a site done by NATURE http://www.nature.com/
Bonz> KingAfk: It is not a peer review artivle in NATURE. It is a news article, talking ABOUT a paper in NATURE
Bonz> Munin http://www.nature.com/nsu/020708/020708-12.html
Munin> Bonz: thanks
Munin> KingAfk: so what is your point about this discovery?
KingAfk> [Shamil_Basayiv] anyone heard about the new fossil skull found in the central africa , I heard that this fossil has set the cat among the pigeons in the world of evolution [Ad_Hoc] Shamil_Basayiv: then you heard wrong. <------ NO you where wrong, that or your going to try some lame thing like... where does it say it let the cat out among the pigeons, lol and say thats what you meant by he was wrong now, BUT he was right, and YOU where wrong... Ad_Hoc,
KingAfk> Munin pointing out that Shamil_Basayiv was right
Ad_Hoc> wrong
Munin> KingAfk: about what?
KingAfk> Shamil_Basayiv> anyone heard about the new fossil skull found in the central africa , I heard that this fossil has set the cat among the pigeons in the world of evolution
Munin> KingAfk: its really to early to say much about it either way
KingAfk> about his statement that it has throw a wrench into evolution models of man
Munin> KingAfk: its not like it hasn't happened before
KingAfk> Munin hmmmmm? Well they seem to think this is only the tip if it..
KingAfk> Munin again not saying that
Munin> KingAfk: dna evidence recently caused a major change in taxonmic classifications
KingAfk> just saying that Shamil_Basayiv was right
Ad_Hoc> Munin: but people who know nothing about evolution think it's "put a cat among the pigeons"
Munin> KingAfk: making us homo sapien sapiens now
Munin> KingAfk: because it turned out that neandertahls are actually a sub-species
Svengali> Ad_Hoc, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
KingAfk> Munin was Shamil_Basayiv correct or not.
Ad_Hoc> Svengali: a little bit would be a nice change.
Munin> KingAfk: what is your point?
KingAfk> that was all i was pointing out
Munin> KingAfk: well, I don't know what he said, so I can't really comment it on it
Svengali> Ad_Hoc, well, take this example. Shami_Basayiv knows a small amount and thinks he knows enough to make conclusions.
KingAfk> his statement was correct
Munin> KingAfk: but its always good when something new comes along to make us reasses the current state of knowledge
Munin> KingAfk: you certainly aren't impying that this is somehow going to invalidate biological evolutionary theory, are you?
KingAfk> and that NATURE url backed up just what he said..
KingAfk> Munin NO Im am saying Shami_Basayiv didnt hear wrong as Ad_Hoc said
Ad_Hoc> rofl
KingAfk> Shami_Basayiv heard right
KingAfk> Ad_Hoc heard wrong
Ad_Hoc> yeah, he heard wrong...no doubt from someone else who knows nothing about the subject
KingAfk> Ad_Hoc you told him "any science site"
KingAfk> you sent him there
KingAfk> it backed him up
KingAfk> :P
Munin> seems like this discussion is pretty trivial
KingAfk> yes
Munin> what is the point?
Ad_Hoc> yeah, just KingAfk trying to score points off me.
KingAfk> and should have been dropped along time ago
KingAfk> off you? You have to get some first
Munin> ....science moves on.....
Munin> I think you kids need some juice and then off to nappy time
Ad_Hoc> *yawn*
KingAfk> Munin in no way was i saying that it proved evolution of man wrong though
KingAfk> nor does it
KingAfk> just that its back to the drawning board... so to speak on some things
Ad_Hoc> rofl
KingAfk> drawing
Munin> KingAfk: probably not that significant
Munin> but hey, anything that draws attention to the area is ok with me
KingAfk> Munin well some thing it is... and not just the ones that found it it seems...
KingAfk> yhink
Munin> I'll need some work after I get out of grad school
KingAfk> they still diggin
goldPseudo> yhing?
KingAfk> its a city in china
Munin> KingAfk: aren't you down on the whole evolution thing anyway?
KingAfk> Munin not at all, I believe in mirco for sure...
Munin> KingAfk: why not macro?
KingAfk> But Adam... man as we know us to be... was made by God.
Munin> KingAfk: you have some other mechanism?
Munin> KingAfk: well, thats religious doctrine, what does that have to do with science?
KingAfk> Munin lack of fossil evidence for one... nothing between the sponge and starfish, shell fish ages...
KingAfk> Munin you askled me what i think and why
Munin> KingAfk: thats right, but why do you think religious docrine has any application to scientific theory?
Munin> KingAfk: it seems an obvious fallacy
KingAfk> Munin because to me without God there is nothing
Munin> KingAfk: ok, but that still doesn't have anything to do with science
KingJehu> Munin to you...
Munin> KingJehu: just remember, fossilization is a somewhat rare phenomenon, and absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
KingJehu> I believe everything we have is given by Father
Munin> KingJehu: to just about everyone actually
KingJehu> Munin no most believe in creationism
Munin> KingJehu: attempting to apply subjective religious beliefs to science is a fallacy, and the result isn't science anymore
Guest89822> KingJehu: no they don't, at least not according to most polls I've read
KingJehu> Munin funny thing is God says that about alot of science
Guest89822> KingJehu: besides, since when does a majority of peole believing in something make it correct?
KingJehu> you brought up the majority of people thing first!!!
KingJehu> Laughs Out Loud
Guest89822> KingJehu: what isn't true science?
Guest89822> KingJehu: creationism? I completely agree
Guest89822> KingJehu: creationism is religious doctrine
Guest74151> KingJehu: Why on EARTH would there be "something between the sponge and starfish"? There isn't SUPPOSED to be anything "between" them. Where do you GET this nonsense?
Guest74151 there is nothing leading up to them... they just "appeared"
KingJehu> Gould himself said that
KingJehu> nickserv and chanserv going nuts at once or what?

#cd 11:40 Otis_says> the universe seems to be large because there are big mirrors out there
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7/19/02 [23:27] Bonz> Sara_Ks One force. You have to have at least two things to have time
Sara_Ks`> Bonz That is opinion, how do you know just what did or did not exist at that point?
Bonz> Sara_Ks: Of course it is opinion. Duh. If no one had opinions, why would we be discussing it?
Sara_Ks`> Bonz You stated it as if it were a fact
Bonz> Sara_Ks: Yes, it is a fact
Sara_Ks`> Bonz And on what do you base that fact other than your opinion
SaraTonin> It is a fact that it is your opinion?
Bonz> Sara_Ks: That makes no sense. Facts are opinions.
Sara_Ks`> Bonz Ok, then it is a fact you are inncorrect
Bonz> Sara_Ks: That's why they aren't very useful
Ryft> Someone put this in the Topic bar... seriously
Ryft> Bonz> Sara_Ks: That makes no sense. Facts are opinions. /
Bonz> Sara_Ks: That's why they aren't very useful
[23:34] *** KingJehu changes topic to ' [Bonz] Sara_Ks: That makes no sense. Facts are opinions. /'
Calcedon> What a funny topic.

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7/19/02 [23:34] Otis_says> we would need some new physics to get out of our galaxy
SaraTonin> Or lots of free time :)

funny!

7/28/02 #cd [08:11] Gorus> Charlton Heston... as Christ... "you can take this fish, and this loaf of bread from me, when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers... you damn dirty apes..."

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7/28/02 #cd [21:43] ThyWillBeDone> atheists will always use the argument when you are born do you believe. that is faulty because belief and non belief is a choice ppl make when they can rationally think. babies cry and poop to much to believe or not believe in whatever they have to believe or not believe in. that argument makes an atheist unintelligent if they think ppl believe that

Ad-Hoc> ThyWillBeDone that's nice.

Ad-Hoc> ThyWillBeDone, just rest while the grownups talk, will you?

Wabbit_Hunting> ThyWillBeDone, just rest while the grownups talk, will you? <-----Snide remark Ad-Hoc> yup, very snide.

Wabbit_Hunting> :P

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7/28/02 #cd [21:51] Ad-Hoc> it's possible there is a god; my saying that says nothing whatsoever about whether or not i believe there is a god. I don't believe there is a god...which means precisely that. Belief in a god is not a quality i have. Nor do i have a belief that there is NO god.

Ad-Hoc> i am a sceptic about god's existence; as is everybody

rational.

Ad-Hoc> to not be sceptical is to be mentally ill - a condition of unquestioning gullibility.

Wabbit_Hunting> then your agnostic Ad-Hoc not atheist...

Wabbit_Hunting> Main Entry: athe·ist

Wabbit_Hunting> Pronunciation: 'A-thE-ist

Wabbit_Hunting> Function: noun

Wabbit_Hunting> Date: 1571

Wabbit_Hunting> : one who denies the existence of God

Ad-Hoc is not interested in discussing the issue, or any other issue, with Wabbit_Hunting

Wabbit_Hunting> Main Entry: 1ag·nos·tic

Wabbit_Hunting> Pronunciation: ag-'näs-tik, &g-

Wabbit_Hunting> Function: noun

Wabbit_Hunting> Etymology: Greek agnOstos unknown, unknowable, from a- + gnOstos known, from gignOskein to know -- more at KNOW

Wabbit_Hunting> Date: 1869

Wabbit_Hunting> : a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and prob. unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
Wabbit_Hunting is yours truly :) Once he found out he broke off the debate

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