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Truth

Truth


SubwayEveryDay: Your religion is called the ender way
Ender2OO3: the gist is that the meaning of life is to 
           understand truth
SubwayEveryDay: its doesn’t sound happy at all
SubwayEveryDay: what is truth
SubwayEveryDay: cause I'm lost
SubwayEveryDay: since there is many types of truth
SubwayEveryDay: not just one
SubwayEveryDay: that’s what I think
Ender2OO3: depends on what you think
Ender2OO3: why do you think there are many types of 
           truth?
SubwayEveryDay: well 
SubwayEveryDay: there are truth to telling the truth 
SubwayEveryDay: but truth to being faithful to someone
SubwayEveryDay: to live without being bad
Ender2OO3: why is truth to live without being bad?
Ender2OO3: well
SubwayEveryDay: because if you live a deceitful life 
                its not truthful
SubwayEveryDay: well
Ender2OO3: cause my thing is that if you truly 
           understand something, then you won't do 
           the wrong thing again
Ender2OO3: "to know the good is to do the good" 
           - Plato
SubwayEveryDay: yeah
SubwayEveryDay: but
SubwayEveryDay: that isn’t a fact
Ender2OO3: how so?
SubwayEveryDay: if you have someone who is psychotic 
                and sees things out of perspective I 
                doubt he/she would understand what is 
                good or bad
Ender2OO3: so he/she would not understand truth
SubwayEveryDay: so it only applies to a certain 
                amount of people
SubwayEveryDay: and still yet you don’t need a 
                mentally insane person
Ender2OO3: no, it applies to everyone
Ender2OO3: it's just that some people have a harder 
           time understanding
SubwayEveryDay: you could have the majority of people 
                in prison
SubwayEveryDay: they know its wrong 
SubwayEveryDay: but they do it anyway
Ender2OO3: no
Ender2OO3: wait
Ender2OO3: I’m sorry I’m not understanding what you 
           are trying to say
Ender2OO3: "they know its wrong but they do it anyway"
Ender2OO3: means that they didn't understand the truth
Ender2OO3: because if they really understood what 
           they were doing was wrong, then they would 
           not have done it
SubwayEveryDay: the truth about that quote from Plato
SubwayEveryDay: I doubt that
Ender2OO3: 
SubwayEveryDay: alright 
SubwayEveryDay: hmmmm
SubwayEveryDay: well I guess I could see it your way
SubwayEveryDay: but the thing is that I also use 
                myself as proof
SubwayEveryDay: to what I just said
SubwayEveryDay: alright
Ender2OO3: give me an example of what you've done
Ender2OO3: that although you knew it was wrong to do
Ender2OO3: you did it anyway
SubwayEveryDay: say I'm suppose to do homework
SubwayEveryDay: which I'm suppose to do
SubwayEveryDay: but I don’t and I play video games 
                instead
SubwayEveryDay: which I have done
Ender2OO3: then you don't really understand the 
           purpose of homework
Ender2OO3: or responsibility
SubwayEveryDay: one can
Ender2OO3: no one can't
SubwayEveryDay: that’s why I take classes that give a 
                lot of homework
SubwayEveryDay: if not
Ender2OO3: because if you firmly believed in the 
           purpose of homework and responsibility you 
           would have done your homework
Ender2OO3: and the only way to believe in something 
           is to understand it fully
SubwayEveryDay: I would take classes without a lot of 
                homework so I can spend more time 
                playing
SubwayEveryDay: its not that
SubwayEveryDay: because
SubwayEveryDay: I get the homework done in the end
Ender2OO3: then you did do the homework
SubwayEveryDay: and if I didn’t understand that, 
                there wouldn’t be homework in the 
                first place
Ender2OO3: yes
SubwayEveryDay: but after 
SubwayEveryDay: so what does that say
Ender2OO3: it says you do understand the purpose of 
           homework
SubwayEveryDay: but 
Ender2OO3: because you did it 
SubwayEveryDay: I procrastinated
Ender2OO3: as long as it was done with full effort 
SubwayEveryDay: which means there is something else 
                there
SubwayEveryDay: the point is that I know homework 
                should come first
Ender2OO3: okay
Ender2OO3: wait
SubwayEveryDay: but I choose something else before it
Ender2OO3: now you're changing the subject
Ender2OO3: because first we were talking about 
           responsibility and the purpose of homework
Ender2OO3: now you're talking about priorities
Ender2OO3: and time management
Ender2OO3: which are totally different
SubwayEveryDay: but I thought this thing revolved 
                around one certain truth
Ender2OO3: this revolves around understanding truth
SubwayEveryDay: so everything such as priorities 
                falls under this
Ender2OO3: the truth is homework should be done on 
           time with full effort
SubwayEveryDay: so it doesn’t matter as long as its 
                done
Ender2OO3: on time and with full effort
SubwayEveryDay: full effort, like if I put all my 
                heart in soul in it because its due 
                in 10 minutes
SubwayEveryDay: so I do my best
SubwayEveryDay: but I get an F
Ender2OO3: no
Ender2OO3: full effort
SubwayEveryDay: that was my full effort 
Ender2OO3: no
Ender2OO3: you did it with all your heart and soul because it was due in 10 minutes
SubwayEveryDay: yes
Ender2OO3: you should do it with all your heart and 
           soul to understand it
SubwayEveryDay: now that doesn’t make sense
SubwayEveryDay: but what if 
SubwayEveryDay: I did it with all my heart and soul 
                and still got a bad grade 
Ender2OO3: then you got a bad grade
Ender2OO3: truth does not equal and A
Ender2OO3: let me try to explain something now that 
           you're done explaining your situation
SubwayEveryDay: alright
SubwayEveryDay: I have something to add after
Ender2OO3: you have homework due tomorrow. The 
           purpose of homework is to help you to 
           understand the material. In order to 
           understand the material, the truth is that 
           you must give your total focus and time 
           needed to obtain that understanding
Ender2OO3: doing it 10 minutes before class . . . . .
Ender2OO3: is not giving the REAL time you need to 
           understand
Ender2OO3: and therefore
SubwayEveryDay: time has nothing to do with it though
SubwayEveryDay: it because I did it to the extent of 
                my effort
Ender2OO3: no you did not
SubwayEveryDay: yes
Ender2OO3: you did it to the extent of your effort 
           within the 10 minutes
SubwayEveryDay: now 10 min before I understand the 
                truth and I do it
SubwayEveryDay: but 
SubwayEveryDay: why
SubwayEveryDay: why, did I get the bad grade 
Ender2OO3: wait 
Ender2OO3: "now 10 min before I understand the truth 
           and I do it"?
Ender2OO3: rephrase please
SubwayEveryDay: alright
SubwayEveryDay: say the next day after you had your 
                fun
SubwayEveryDay: suddenly 'the ender way' kicks in and 
                you understand that homework is 
                essential for you to do good in 
                school and thus leading to if you get 
                into college or other such things
SubwayEveryDay: so you try and put your entire effort 
                in 
SubwayEveryDay: 10 min before class starts
SubwayEveryDay: but your grade is not good
Ender2OO3: done?
SubwayEveryDay: yes
Ender2OO3: okay
Ender2OO3: then you understood too late
SubwayEveryDay: but doesn’t understanding give you 
                the entire wisdom 
Ender2OO3: not the way you're describing it.  If you 
           mean that you will suddenly know what the 
           right answers after you understand the 
           true meaning of homework then you're wrong.
SubwayEveryDay: ok
SubwayEveryDay: but by having this 'truth', and you 
                put you entire effort you are suppose 
                to be doing good
Ender2OO3: doing good does not equivalent an A on 
           your homework
Ender2OO3: and I never said that it did
Ender2OO3: and if you interpreted it that way then 
           AIM messed it up
SubwayEveryDay: but you were implying that by knowing 
                this truth..............
SubwayEveryDay: I see
SubwayEveryDay: yes I was about to say that
SubwayEveryDay: alright I don’t totally understand 
                but lets leave it at this
SubwayEveryDay: it still sounds interesting
Ender2OO3: AIM is the problem here
Ender2OO3: because you're making inferences on the 
           way I’m typing the stuff out
SubwayEveryDay: could be
SubwayEveryDay: on the way it sounds actually
Ender2OO3: yea
Ender2OO3: ahh
Ender2OO3: I see what you're saying now 
Ender2OO3: What I’m saying though, is that in part of 
           understanding the material on the 
           homework, you have to give your full 
           effort. Part of giving your full effort is 
           giving the right amount of time you need 
           to truly understand the material. In your 
           case you realized that you need to give 
           full effort, but you did not have the time 
           to give it because of your 
           procrastination. Now if you truly 
           understand homework from that incident, 
           then the next time you have homework due, 
           you will give it the amount of time it 
           needs to be done. The reason why most 
           people say to do your homework as soon as 
           possible is because you don't know how 
           much time you will need to complete it to 
           your full effort. The ender way does not 
           say you should do your homework first. The 
           ender way says it should be done giving 
           your full effort which means giving it the 
           full amount of time you need to truly 
           understand the material
SubwayEveryDay: there
SubwayEveryDay: hahha
SubwayEveryDay: alright
SubwayEveryDay: it falls into place now