Calvinistic False Doctrine on Limited Atonement

Point #1 Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
("All" means "all" man kind, does that mean all will accept it, no.)

#2 John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

[Strong's Number: 3956 Orig/word pa'ß Def. including all the forms of declension Trans/word Pas Def 1. individually a. each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything.]

("All" there in John 12:32, means the first definition to me.)

Some try to tell me that "world" doesn't really mean "world"' and "the whole world" doest really mean "the whole world." and "all" doesn't mean "all" and "every man" doesnt mean "every man" etc. etc. Meaning I should change it to fit their order of theology. I believe that for the most part, God, in His Might and Power was able to give the word to the english speaking masses. If one needs to be learned in greek to understand the bible, then the election must all be Greeks. It is proper if a word comes into question, to seek out the root word, but not proper to fit that word to make the bible fit ones own theology

#3 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (Showing who can be saved.) 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (reason why) 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (And free will at work.)

#4 2 Corinitains 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
(The world to me means world, will all the world accept it. No.)

#5 1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
(Any man that sins, sins of the whole world.)

The elect people of God are told not to sin, but if they did sin Jesus Christ is an advocate to God. John continues by stating that the blood of Christ was not only shed for the elect but for the sins of the whole world. This strongly asserts unlimited atonement, not limited atonement. But in no way means all will take the atonement. All Jews did not take the atonement of the sacrificial lamb either, but it was granted to them all, and all the conformed with the Hebrew law, not just the Jews. One could take certian rites, become a member of the tribes of Jacob, enter the temple, present his sacrificial lamb and have atonement for his sin. It was the willingness to conform ones heart to Gods will, and the Word of God clearly calls all men to repent.

#6 1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
(Again, the word is clear to me, who he came to save, will some reject it, yes.)

#7 Mathew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
(Clearly a calling to all. ALL are heavy laden with problems in life and sin.)

#8 John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
(Will all accept that price? No as 2 peter 2:1-2 shows)

#9 2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
(Here it CLEARLY shows he even paid the price for the false ones, that rejected him. Over and over it makes it clear he paid for all sins... of every man, even the false prophets. . . that does not mean all will cash in on this deal, nor makes Jesus a failer, rather but man.)

The false prophets in that verse are unsaved, they're bound for destruction. Peter says that even though they are unsaved Christ died for them. Some will not come to Him, that they might have salvation; they will not have Him to rule over them; they reject their salvation.

#10 Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. (All men are born into sin and ungoldy.) 5:7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Clearly to me that shows that he died for all un-righteous, which is everyone. Will all accept it, no.)

#11 1 Tim 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
(Again clearly all men.)

#12 Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
(Every man to me means every man, now mind you to have full limited atonment Jesus only died for those that are saved, the election, his blood was in no way to cover the sins of the lost, it wasn't eever meant to and there is no way the had the slighest chance of being saved, it was Gods will they burn in hell, as I understand Calvinism's view on limited atonement.)

#13 1 Timothy 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 3:7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
(That's to the church, about church elders and shows they can fall into the snares of the devil. How can that be with election?)

#14 niv Romans 2:8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger...
(To reject something one must first be able to receive it. Its not a rejection if one is not able to accept it. i.e. I cannot reject a rock from mars because I am not given the chance to accept it.)

#15 Mark 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
(Showing "they" rejected it of their own free will. If they were predestined to hell, it would not a be a matter of rejecting Gods word... they would have no choice, for you can't reject what you can't receive.)

#16 1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
(Again, the word is clear to me, who he came to save, will some reject it, yes.)

#17 Romans 10:3 Romans 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
(Showing they could have submitted, but chose not to. Free will.)

#18 1 Timothy 4:9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe..
(Those verses, clearly to me, show the atonement of Christ is for all. If limited atonement was true it would have to say... "because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all elect, specially of those that are the elect.")

#19 EXCERPT FROM a page... Calvin in his later days wrote in about 1 John 2:2 as follows: "Christ suffered for the sins of the whole world, and in the goodness of God is offered unto all men without distinction, His blood being shed not for a part of the world only, but for the whole human race; for although in the world nothing is found worthy of the favor of God, yet He holds out the propitiation to the whole world, since without exception He summons all to the faith of Christ, which is nothing else than the door unto hope." It seems Mr.Calvin had a change of heart and doctrine before his death. Praise God!

Who did Christ died for by the bibles words. 1. For all (1 Tim 2:6; Isa 53:6). 2. For every man (Heb. 2:9). 3. For the world (John 3:16). 4. For the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2 Isa 49:6). 5. For the ungodly (Rom. 5:6). 6. For false teachers (2 Peter 2:1). 7. For many (Matthew 20:2. 8. For Israel (John 11:50-51). 9. For the Church (Eph. 5:25). 10. For "me" (Gal. 2:20). I don't know how the bible could have been any clearer on the matter.

Next I plan to show that limited atonement isn't biblical in my view because, the word show beyond doubt that man must take that second step, after the knowledge of Christ's atonement. Some point out that this is just a means "cause" to salvation and wholly of God and one has no choice to repent or not... just a formality in the election process of Salvation. I rejected that stance and believe the word in part sows the first seeds of faith.

#20 Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
(By that verse either all Israel is the elect, and all saved, or all could be the elect and some might reject that election.)

#21 Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
(He came to call sinners... unlimited in scope. All have sinned and are or were sinners.)

#22 Mathew 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
(Again Jesus Himself says it... this is over and over... by many of them, how could someone account for this many clear mistakes in translation, wouldn't the election be the righteous already anway?)

#23 Rev. 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
(Showing why God dealt with them harshly, an in-action they could have done, but did not.)

#24 Rev. 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
(Clearly showing they are doomed, but can take that action. It is showing they are doomed, except they repent. A choice. Free Will.

#25 Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
(Again showing they can repent, Jesus our Christ is saying, you have a choice.)

#26 Mark 6:12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent. (Men.)
(Men.)

#27 Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
(Not all will repent, but a choice.)

#28 Luke 15:10 Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
(Now if limited atonement is true, there would be no party, they would have been saved from the start.)

#29 Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
(Clearly a choice and twice.)

#30 Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
(How can they repent if its to the always lost, and if its to the always saved, how can they perish. Again clearly showing Calvinism is a falsehood... to me.)

#31 Luke 15:7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
(Gladness, that they didn't reject the gift of grace. And here is who is called to do it.)

#32 Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: (I contend that all men everywhere means... all men everywhere.)

#33 Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
[Gentiles = e[qnoß = Ethnos =1. a multitude [whether of men or of beasts] associated or living together a. a company, troop, swarm 2.a multitude of individuals of the same nature or genus a.the human family 3. a tribe, nation, people group in the OT, foreign nations not worshipping the true God, pagans, Gentiles.]

(Note!) Romans 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written. (Showing Paul used Gentiles to mean non-Christians, also in 1 cor 10:20 1cor 12:2 and others... some try to say gentiles means Christians only in that verse, but Paul used it both ways.)

#34 Galations 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
(Note he says "might" and "through faith" now is faith in God only from God... Jesus didn't seem to think so because He was the one that got onto us time and time again about lack of faith.)

#35 Acts 8:22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
(Clearly telling him to repent, and pray, and it could have a impact on Father, and they are unforgiven at this point.)

#36 Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.
(That you sins "may" be blotted out, not that they will... the verse sould read... you will repent and your sins have been blotted out since before creation if unlimted atonement was true shouldn't it?)

#37 Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
(Why would Peter tell everyone of them to do this, should one making a call to repent and be baptized take it as a light thing, that even those that couldn't be saved should take this means of salvation. Is this to be regarded as something that the absolute un-atonable should try to take on?)

#38 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
(Now here it says, that any should perish, now some say "any" here means the already saved... then how could they perish. This verse in itself proves limited atonement to be a false teaching to me. If its to the election THEY COULDN'T PERISH IF THEY TRIED... by the Calvinism view.) (Now for the next step I will show that man is given and is able to use his free will, to either reject or accept atonement by the grace of God. )

#39 Acts 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
(He came to them, that they would hear, "they" rejected it and further he show they made the choice. They counted themselves unworthy of something Paul was trying to give them... that CLEARLY shows free will.)

#40 rom 9:11 For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;
(This in no way means God made either baby doomed, all this is iluding to in my eyes is before either child was born God knew which child had done good or evil in there perspective lifes... Just like God knows what the last soul picked, good or evil.)

#41 Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
(Showing we were adopted, not always the election.)

#42 Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
(This shows, that even Paul is waiting for the end means, that is not the fully reached yet.)

#43 Heb.3:12 Take heed brethren , lest there be in any of you and evil heart of unbelief , in departing from the truth. ( Can't depart unless a part of the truth. Can't know the truth without Jesus Christ .) But exhort one anotheir daily , while it is called today. Lest any of you be hardened threw the deceitfulness of sin . For we are partakers of Christ , if we hold the beggining of our confidence stedfast till the end. (Need God say anymore?)

#44 (If limited atonement is true, why would there be a judgment day at all. "I judged you damned because I picked you to be damned from before creation")

#45 (If limted atonement is true why are the elect judge before the throne of Christ... "You are judge blessed because I blessed you before creation")

#46 (Jesus says Love God with all your heart and soul... but if pre-elected to this faith, how is it we love at all, does God put the love in us, to make him love us... and if so is that true love? And if God doesnt put the love in us then isn't it a free choice to love him.)

#47 ("If" limited atonement is true wouldn't that mean that some babies will burn in hell?)

#48 ("If" limited atonement is true, and only fulfilled by the blood of Christ... does that mean before Christ all men where doomed? If not, then somehow overs found atonement for there sin... how?)

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THOSE are by no means "all" the verse that prove that unlimited is the truth and will of Father... more to come later... but for one to prove Calvinism true they would have to prove each one of those verses don't really mean what they mean. But if you click on SALVATION LOST? you will see the word shows one can lose their salvation in Christ, which would also refute "Preservation of the Saints."