The families de Coucy and de Guines

Part 1

Dreux=Drogo, sn de Boves fl 1069, had (with 2 other sons who d. w/o issue):

Enguerrand I, sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens, d.1116; m.1^st Ade, Vicomtesse de Coucy, dau.of Letard de Roucy, sn de Marle; m.2^nd Sibylle, dau.of Roger de Porcien; by his 1^st wife he had (with a dau Beatrix who m.Adam châtelain d’Amiens):

Thomas, sn de Coucy, de Marle, etc, Cte d'Amiens, d.Laon 8 Nov 1130; m.1^st Ida (d.after 1101) dau.of Ct Baldwin II of Hainaut; m.2^nd Ermengarde de Montaigu; m.3^rd Melisende (d.after 1147) dau.of Guy de Crécy. He had issue:

[by 1^st m.]:

1a) Ide; m.1^st Alard de Chimay; m.2^nd Bernard d'Orbais

2a) Beatrix; m. Evrard de Breteuil

[by 3^rd m.]

3a) Enguerrand II, sn de Coucy, etc, fl 1131/47; m.by 1130 Agnes, dau.of René de Boisgency by Mahaut de Vermandois

1b) Raoul I, sn de Coucy, etc., k.a. Acre 1 Nov 1191; m.1^st before 1164 Agnes (d.1168/73) dau.of Ct Baldwin IV of Hainaut; m.2^nd after 1173 Alix (d.after 1217) dau.of Robert I Cte de Dreux

[by 1^st m.]:

1c) Yolande de Coucy (d.18 Mar 1222; bur St.Yved, Braine); m.1184 Cte Robert II de Dreux (d.1218)

2c) Isabeau de Coucy; m.1^st Cte Raoul I de Roucy (d.1196); m.2^nd Cte Henri III de Grandpré (d.1211)

3c) Ade de Coucy; m.Dietrich van Beveren, Burggrave of Dixmuiden

[by 2^nd m.]:

4c) Enguerrand III de Coucy, Cte de Roucy et du Perche (d.1242; bur Nogent); m.1^st 1204 Matilda (1172-1209), dau of Duke Heinrich III of Saxony, and widow of Geoffroy Cte du Perche; m.2^nd ca 1212 Marie de Montmirail, Vcts de Meaux, heiress of Montmirail, Meaux, Cambrai, etc (d.1272; bur Longpont) dau.of Jean de Montmirail by Helvide de Dampierre; all children were by 2^nd m.

1d) Raoul II de Coucy, sn de Coucy, de Marle et de la Fère (k.a. Mansourah 8 Feb 1250); m.after Apr 1246 Philippe (d.1278/81) dau.of Simon de Dammartin, Cte de Ponthieu, and widow of Raoul de Lusignan Cte d’Eu (and later wife of Ct Otto II of Geldern)

1e) Enguerrand, d..by 1250

2d) Enguerrand IV de Coucy, Vcte de Meaux, etc, d.20 Mar 1312; m.1^st before 1262 Margareta, dau.of Ct Otto II of Geldern;

m.2^nd ca 1288 Joanna (d.15 Oct 1333) dau.of Ct Robert III of Flanders

3d) Jean, d.shortly after 1242

4d) Marie; m.1^st 24 May 1239 Alexander II, King of Scots (d.8 Jun 1249); m.2^nd Jean de Brienne (d.1296)

5d) Alix de Coucy, d.after 1290; m.Arnould III, Cte de Guines (see Part 2 for their issue, some of whom took the name “de Coucy”)

5c) Thomas de Coucy, sn de Vervins, d.1252/3; m.after 1190 Mahaut (d.1259/68) dau. of Hugues, Cte de Rethel

1d) Thomas de Coucy, sn de Vervins, d.1281; m.1^st Elisabeth, dau.of Ct Arnold III van Looz; m.2^nd Marguerite, dau.of Gerard de Picquigny, vidame d'Amiens

1e) Thomas de Coucy, sn de Vervins, k.a. Kortrijk 11 Jul 1302; m.Isabelle, dau.of Gerhard I d'Enghien

1f) Thomas de Coucy à issue, extinct in male line 1588

2f) Jean de Coucy, sn de Vervins

2e) Jean de Coucy, m.Catherine, dau.of Renaud de Saint-Leu

1f) Enguerrand de Coucy, d.young

2f) Thomas de Coucy, sn de Saint-Leu

3e) Marie de Coucy dit de Verdun, d.1281; m.Gaucher de Thourotte, chatelain de Noyon

4e) Guy, sn de Bosmont

1f) Jean de Vervins, sn de Bosmont 1341

2d) Yolande de Coucy; m.Arnold de Mortagne, Bggve of Doornick

3d) Felicite de Coucy, d.1307; m.Baudouin d'Avesnes (d.1295)

4d) Agnes de Coucy, d.1277; m.ca 1258 Gobert VII d'Aspremont

6c) Robert de Coucy, sn de Pinon, d.after 1234; m.1^st Elisabeth, dau.of Robert de Pierrepont by Eustache de Roucy; m.2^nd before 1219 Godde, widow of N de Preaux; Robert left issue extinct in male line 1377

7c) Raoul de Coucy, a priest

8c) Agnes de Coucy; m.after 1190 Gilles de Beaumetz

2b) Enguerrand de Coucy, d.ca 1174

4a) Robert de Coucy, sn de Boves, d.19 Jun 1191; m.Beatrix (d.after 1192) sister of Cte Hugues de Saint-Pol

1b) Enguerrand de Coucy, sn de Boves; m.before 1192 Adele (d.1252/4) dau.of Jean I de Nesle, Bgve of Bruges

1c) Robert de Coucy, sn de Boves, d.1248/9; m.Helvide, dau.of Guillaume de Nanteuil, sn d'Autreches

2c) Elizabeth de Coucy, Dame de Boves, d.after Jul 1263; m.before May 1214 Nicolas V de Rumigny (d.1257)

2b) Robert de Coucy, sn de Fouencamps, d.1226/8; m.Marie ___

1c) Robert de Coucy, d.ca 1245; m.Marie ___

2c) Thomas de Coucy

3c) Hellin de Coucy

4c) Beatrix de Coucy

3b) Hugues de Coucy, drowned 1215; called “Earl of Norfolk and Suffolk” in ES, but no such person appears in the CP

4b) Thomas de Coucy, a priest in Amiens

5a) a dau., m.1^st Adelelme ___; m.2^nd Hugues de Gournay