< Orale789 > it's dylan right?
< Orale789 > don't have hbo

< ZDover > no. It's called "Cheaters".
< ZDover > damn

< Orale789 > what is it about?

< ZDover > the way the world works

< Orale789 > ah, sounds interesting... though it would need a little elaboration

< ZDover > Do you know kids at school who cheat?

< Orale789 > Well, I've cheated sometimes, but I can't really remember any distinct situations in high school myself. Nothing big. So of course I do.
< Orale789 > Jeff Daniels is in the movie...

< ZDover > I've never cheated on a test. I have a 1.7 GPA. But I've written dozens of papers for people.
< ZDover > I wholeheartedly approve of cheating.
< ZDover > I hate academia.
< ZDover > I've never written a paper that got a grade lower than a B.
< ZDover > Jeff Daniels plays their teacher.

< Orale789 > Well, I don't hate it per se, but it doesn't bother me to help other people or do it myself if I really wanted to. It's just that there are some people that are really annoying. Like as if they it would trouble them to listen for five minutes.
< Orale789 > I know. I looked the movie up.
< Orale789 > I have something at least over a 3.2, but it's probably wavering. I actually was nominated to who's who among american students as it turns out. I found out today. I have to track down the bastard who nominated me. It's killing me not to know.

< ZDover > This one girl in the film is really hot, and her nipples are large and visible through her shirt.

< Orale789 > Really. Someone actually showed me this interesting piece of midget porn today. Great stuff really. It's the first thing I've seen in a long time that was even vaguely, oh, what's the word...

< ZDover > funny?

< Orale789 > No. Something about being turned on, but in a less blatant way.

< ZDover > arousing
< ZDover > I had a date last night, and I committed a severe date foul.

< Orale789 > Yeah, that's it. I forget the stupidest words.
< Orale789 > Oh what was that?
< Orale789 > Hey, you wouldn't want the url to that? To be honest I didn't get very buzzed at all, but I found it interesting.
< Orale789 > The Internet Movie Database suggests that if you liked Cheaters, you would like a movie called Breast Men, featuring David Schwimmer. Heh...

< ZDover > Earlier in the day, my mother told me we were having beans for dinner. We were out for about five hours. She is really pretty. I hadn't eaten all day and was starving. She laughed at almost everything I said. At the end of the night, when I took her home, she asked "So, what are you doing for the rest of the night?" Like an idiot, thinking of nothing but beans, I said "I'm going to my mom's house and eat beans."
< ZDover > shit.
< ZDover > yeah.
< ZDover > I've seen Breast Men.
< ZDover > I'll take a look at the url.

< Orale789 > http://www.geocities.com/pittska/Cumcadets.html

< ZDover > this picture of the midget girl giving head to the guy?
< ZDover > tell me how it's arousing.

< Orale789 > i have no idea. it's wrong.

< ZDover > it's wrong?
< ZDover > things that are wrong are arousing?

< Orale789 > No, it's wrong thing to be aroused by.
< Orale789 > I didn't get buzzed. It only struck me as interesting...

< ZDover > oh.

< Orale789 > I should really read that last message you sent me.

< ZDover > which last message?

< Orale789 > the one about the date
< Orale789 > Uh oh. She still liked you, right?
< Orale789 > What's breast men about?

< ZDover > she seemed to like me very much
< ZDover > Breast Men is about the guy who invented the breast implant.

< Orale789 > That's great. How did she react?
< Orale789 > That much I've figured. I've gotten a hold of the summary.

< ZDover > very pleasantly. Very elegantly. She was nothing but grace the whole night.

< Orale789 > So it wasn't as much a foul as you first said it was. ;-)

< ZDover > It was an opportunity to have sex that I missed.
< ZDover > And I sort-of turned her down. That's how it will seem.

< Orale789 > Well, odds are, you'll probably get another chance though, yes, I do agree it would've seemed to me in that position that you sort of turned her down.

< ZDover > Aye. Aye, but so graceless.

< Orale789 > Of course, but it brought the night to an end on a light point even if it was.
< Orale789 > So how were the beans? ;-)

< ZDover > true.
< ZDover > the beans were great

< Orale789 > Really? What sort?

< ZDover > when she came back from europe, she had a shape like a liquid violin.

< Orale789 > How were they prepared?

< ZDover > pinto
< ZDover > boiled

< Orale789 > How is a liquid violin shaped?

< ZDover > do you know what a lowercase omega looks like?

< Orale789 > I've probably seen one, but nothing is brought to memory.

< ZDover > let me find one online

< Orale789 > Ok

< ZDover > searching....
< ZDover > it looks like a 3 turned on its side.
< ZDover > that's what an omega looks like

< Orale789 > oh, you don't really have to... I think I've seen that. you could draw it and e-mail me it, but i hate that sort of stuff it never looks right.

< ZDover > let me hook up the mouse

< Orale789 > it'll be terrible. i swear
< Orale789 > i shouldn't have mentioned it.
< Orale789 > you were the one who i sent my rendition of vonnegut's cunt, right?

< ZDover > no, I never saw that.
< ZDover > it always looked like a cigar to me.
< ZDover > with smoke on top

< Orale789 > really? I thought you did.
< Orale789 > I know.. Though it never occured to me that it looked like a cigar with smoke...
< Orale789 > Damn am I stupid. I mentioned to someone today that there was something interesting that they sent me once that I thought I could use for my site, but I didn't know where to put it. I knew there was a reason why the phrase "sort of stupid" was familiar.

< ZDover > I'll email you this, but the mousepad was wet and it was hard to draw.

< Orale789 > my mouse sucks. you're better off.
< Orale789 > just copy and paste it into the e-mail. k? no need to bother with files.

< ZDover > done
< ZDover > sorry
< ZDover > it took a long time to upload

< Orale789 > no problem
< Orale789 > 5 minutes isn't extraneously long anyhow and unlike on aol, i can still talk. no big whoop though.

< ZDover > I'm on AOL.
< ZDover > so it takes forever.

< Orale789 > it looks like the beginnings of a rather lewd drawing.

< ZDover > yeah.

< Orale789 > i know, but there are many downsides to cs.
< Orale789 > I could try finishing it...

< ZDover > cs?

< Orale789 > compuserve

< ZDover > ah
< ZDover > that's how< Shannon> looks.

< Orale789 > Do I know this Shannon?

< ZDover > no. That's her name.
< ZDover > But I'm completely taken with Rhea.
< ZDover > Who is in Italy.

< Orale789 > Oh, but I was asking whether or not you've spoken of her.

< ZDover > I don't think so.

< Orale789 > How are you doing with

< ZDover > We went to grade school together.

< Orale789 > Me either
< Orale789 >

< ZDover > I haven't spoken to in a month.
< ZDover > she's in Italy.

< Orale789 > But who did you go to grade school with?

< ZDover >
< ZDover > We were in 3rd grade together.

< Orale789 > Oh. I think I was hallucinating for a momet. I heard that waterfall cascade noise that you get when you're im'ed, but I wasn't and the tv wasn't on commercial.

< ZDover > ach
< ZDover > have you ever heard Bizet's Carmen?

< Orale789 > it's really distracting. aol shouldn't have commericials. enough people know of them.

< ZDover > I think the same thing.

< Orale789 > well, no. perhaps one song of it, but not much.

< ZDover > would you ever lie in court?

< Orale789 > I'm debating whether or not to sacrifice aesthetic stream-lining or to sacrifice conveniece...

< ZDover > in what?

< Orale789 > It depends. I probably wouldn't do it for the hell of it, but I neither have very strong emotional ties to anyone. Whatever happens happens. If I had enough cause to commit an act at the moment, you shouldn't try a petty attempt to erase the fact. We and the lives we live are no better or worse off for our actions. Just different.
< Orale789 > My webpage
< Orale789 > Why?

< ZDover > But if lying meant the difference between going to jail and not, would you?
< ZDover > I was just wondering.

< Orale789 > Like I said, I wouldn't be better or worse off in my particular mindset. I can't make those distinctions and I don't see any reason to be forced to. I consent to whatever aftereffects of anything I chose to do.

< ZDover > understood.
< ZDover > I can't remember, forgive me. Are you a virgin?

< Orale789 > How about you?
< Orale789 > I've mentioned that a few times.

< ZDover > if it would prolong my life, immediately. I have no ties to the government. The republic, yes. I would die for the Republic.

< Orale789 > Yeah, in practically every sense.

< ZDover > You are a virgin. I remember.

< Orale789 > I would die for and without any cause. Well, perhaps not for. I don't have much cause.
< Orale789 > About stream-lining... ;-)

< ZDover > I have virtually no fear of death, but I want to stay around for as long as possible.
< ZDover > stream-lining...

< Orale789 > Yes, but I have no such desire any more. I wouldn't purposely sign away my death certificate, but it really is no matter if I die a hundred years from now (may become a possibility), 300,000 years from now like Ender, 25 years, tommorow, today, the next moment, or if I passed in utero. Maybe I would believe in that last sentence with less conviction three or so months ago, but I don't really know. I'm not the same person, and I no longer think I have what I thought I had.

< ZDover > what did you think you had that you now think you do not have?

< Orale789 > I lost what must've been my last emotional connection to someone (something, anything) else in my adult life and perhaps my only. It cut me off from everything including myself. I'll probably find myself tied to something later on, but now I'm not and it's not that much of a worry. I'm concious of the fact and the conclusions (an example would be above) of it.
< Orale789 > I'm getting closer again.

< ZDover > closer to falling in love with someone, you mean.

< Orale789 > Perhaps it's love. It distinctly feels like love. Love of any sort would be more probable than becoming wound up in a political movement though what I need could turn out to be anything.

< ZDover > why politics?

< Orale789 > Because I've never been interested in politics. It's a cause, and by being tied to a cause means you partly forget and are less concious of yourself. By forgetting and becoming less concious of yourself, you are much more closely tied and tapped into yourself. It's the same with love or anything else.

< ZDover > I understand the sentiment.
< ZDover > Politics is a thing I find dull.
< ZDover > Local politics.
< ZDover > World politics is quite a different matter.

< Orale789 > Thank you for understanding. That was clear as I can get.
< Orale789 > I'm neither really interested in world politics. Though if the person who I could be falling in love with I actually do fall in love with and I made the decision to mimic this one individual to a degree like we tend to do, that could change.

< ZDover > why mimic him?

< Orale789 > Because you want to connect. Not mimic exactly. Wrong choice of words.

< ZDover > to partake in the same activites

< Orale789 > I wouldn't throw myself head over heels into the situation. I haven't done that in the my two brushes with love though the second was much too brief and spontaneous that it was practically impossible and never occured to me.
< Orale789 > Yeah.

< ZDover > ag. I've got to go downstairs and check my messages.
< ZDover > I'll see you later, Judy.
< ZDover > shoes

< Orale789 > sure
< Orale789 > bye