Session Start: Thu May 15 18:00:42 2008 Session Ident: #tatchat 03* Now talking in #tatchat <@Linda> 05Hi Mimi. 01 Good evening ladies 12Yes, Cause I asked earlier who that was 01 Welcome Hanane Thanks Mimi 12Hello Mimi 03* Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-DAEFDCD4.stl1cmta01.stwrok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) has joined #tatchat Isabel talking to yourself really!!! :D 12I know, The bad thing is I didn't answer myself 03* Tatter is now known as Cynthia 12Hi, Cynthia 06Hi everyone <@Linda> 05Hi Cynthia 06Isabell, How is the newest grandson? Mimi I have a question 12Great, But I like to brag. He's beautiful 06that's what grammas are for!!! >:D< 06ok it won't do a hug so :) 01 What's that Hanane 12I belong to TOPS and everyone there had to see all my pics of Kade 03* Katia (Tatter@simplySPACE-4C18366.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #tatchat 12Hello Katia <@Linda> 05Hi Katia 01 Welcome Katia Good evening ladies 06Hi Katia, how is Max doing? I've missed a couple weeks... max is doing great they took his hard cast off last week to replace it with a soft one and the specialist said he would ave a full recovery with no drawback 06awesome :) 01 Such good news how his everyone doing? 12Great <@Linda> 05Fine. Thanks for asking. 06 fine here sorry <@Linda> 05And you Katia? 01 Fine, but it's crazy here with the run-up to my lace guild's conference, plus summer craziness already started at work in and out tonight how do you manage to snug up your chains and rings I have gaps im doing well 01 Gaps between the ring and the following chain and vice-versa? yes 01 The Dreaded Gapsosis the end of the chain and the ring is ok but the close of the ring and beg of chain not so good Well at least it has a name LOL 01 LOL 01 IT'S ACUTALLY GEORGIA SEITZ' NAME FOR IT 01 I CAN'T CLAIM IT 01 BUT I USE IT :) 01 YOU'VE3 ALREADY TAKEN THE FIRST STEP: IDENTIFYING THE PROBLEM 01 THE NEXT STEP IS WATCHING CAREFULLY HOW/WHERE YOU HOLD THE PREVIOUS WORK WHEN YOU START THE NEXT ELEMENT 01 YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PREVIOUS ELEMENT IS FULLY TENSIONED, NOT LOOSE 01 AND THEN START THE RING AS CLOSE AS EVER YOU CAN TO THE PREVIOUS ELEMENT 01 THIS TAKES SOME DOING 01 BECAUSE YOU WANT THE THREAD IN YOUR PINCH 01 BUT YOU CAN, WITH PRACTICE, GET IT CLOSER AND CLOSER 01 UNTIL FINALLY YOU GET RID OF THE GAP 01 HOW ABOUT WE GET SIGNED IN, AND THEN ASK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS LEFT OVER FROM PREVIOUS LESSONS 01 MIMI DILLMAN, ntrop at ix dot netcom dot com, SNOHOMISH, WA USA KATIA VALLÉE SHERBROOKE QC CANADA LADY_ELHASA@HOTMAIL.COM 12Isabell Sandoval needle isabell.sandoval@yahoo.com Taylor, TX 06Cynthia Stevenson, brasthatfit at yahoo dot com, Stillwater Ok USA 01 HANAE ALSO MAKE SURE TO TUG YOUR RING'S CORE THREAD AFTER MAKING THAT FIRST DS TO MAKE SURE IT STILL SLIDES <@Linda> 05Linda Markgraf Palmdale California Shuttle tatting linda002@sbcglobal.net 01 IT'S POSSIBLE TO UNFLIP YOUR DS WHEN TRYING TO SNUG THE WORK UP thanks mimi so basically practice practice practice 01 I'M AFRAID SO, NO MAGIC CURE Hanane ElMoumi Garland Texas mshanane@gmail.com 01 JUST A LITTLE EXPERIMENTING, THEN CONTINUING TO PAY ATTENTION (I STILL DO IT FROM TIME TO TIEM BY MISTAKE) figured like everything else 01 AND IT'S BEEN 26 YEARS SINCE MY FIRST DS 01 EEK 01 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO ON TO LESSON 3? 12no I'm good 06no <@Linda> 05No. 01 OK THEN. TONIGHT'S LESSON IS http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/lesson3.html 01 DID EVERYONE HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK IT OVER? <@Linda> 05Yes. 12yes I almost made a yes 06y yep wokring on the heart forgot to shout out Joanne Wortman Smithtown, NY knitsalot@gmail.com 01 AH, THAT HEART, ISN'T IT NICE? KATIA SUGGESTED ADDING THAT ONE THIS YEAR, AND I THOUGHT IT A GREAT IDEA 01 SO I TAKE IT LOCK JOINS ARE UNDER CONTROL? 01 ISABELL? 12yes 01 IT'S A DIFFERENT CONCEPT FOR NEEDLE-TATTERS, BUT IT REALLY HELPS KEEP YOUR WORK NEAT <@Linda> 05I think I have LJs ok. 01 WHEN YOU'RE IN THE SITUATION OF JOINING BELOW THE LINE WHERE YOUR DOUBLE STITCH CAPS STAND UP 01 GREAT! 01 I'LL REPEAT ONE PIECE OF ADVICE FROM THE LESSON THAT FINALLY HELPED ME KEEP MINE NEAT AND AVOID THE PREVIOUS ELEMENT LOOSING SOME TENSION 01 THAT IS: TIGHTEN THE KNOT AND PULL TO THE LEFT 01 PULL THE JOINING THREAD TOWARDS THE LEFT TO FINISH, THAT IS 01 IT ROLLS THE KNOT BACK TOWARDS THE OTHER DS'S FOR NEEDLE TATTER DO THE SAME BUT REMEMBER TO PULL YOUR DS OFF THE NEEDLE BEFORE 01 SO THAT WAY WHEN YOU START THE NEXT SET OF CHAIN STITCHES, THE PREVIOUS CORE THREAD DOESN'T PULL LOOSE 01 SORRY I'M TIRED. WHEN I SAY LOOSE, I DON'T MEAN PULL OUT COMPLETELY - JUST LENGHTEN A LITTLE BIT SO THE CHAIN CAN FLOP A LITTLE 01 IF THAT MAKES SENSE 01 AND GOOD ADVISE TOO KATIA, HAVE TO PULL THE NEEDLE OUT BEFORE LOCKING UP. AND EVERYONE HAS TO SNUG UP THEIR CHAIN BEFORE LOCKING AT ALL DID ANY OF YOU TRIED TO UNDO A lj? Haven't gotten to one yet but I looked over the directions and think I can handle it 06yes to me, I have recently switched from shuttle to needle <@Linda> 05Yes. 12no I haven't tried <@Linda> 05Not the easiest thing I have ever done. Sometimes sucess sometimes not. 01 SOMETIMES SUCCESS, SOMETIMES *KNOT* :o))) 06brb ANY TROUBLE UNDOING THE lj <@Linda> 05Pretty much! THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE IT EASY TO UNDO, YOU JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT OF ATTENTION 06that is? <@Linda> 05Ok Katia what is it? 01 It's a cliffhanger...! <@Linda> 05Spill it! WHEN WE DO THE lj WE PASS THE SHUTTLE/NEEDLE IN A LOOP , IF YOU TURN THE WORK AROUBND YOU LL SEE THAT LOOP .... <@Linda> 05Yes yes yes! 02* Joanne (Tatter@simplySPACE-3F1C833.nycmny.east.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) THAT LOOP THAT WE PASSED THE SHUTTLE/NEEDLE IN , TAKE A NEEDLE AND LOOSE THAT LOOP LITTLE BY LITTLE SO THAT YOU CAN UN TIGHT THAT LOOP THEN YOU CAN PASS THE SHUTTLE/NEEDLE OUT OR JUST TIGHTEN THE CHAIN BACK IN PLACE ;) <@Linda> 05I needs to study on that one. 01 GREAT TIP 01 NOW THE LOCK IS NOT SO LOCKED 12I am printing that one <@Linda> 05Me too! 01 IT WILL BE IN THE LOG TOO, THAT WAY JOANNE CAN FIND OUT ABOUT IT 01 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS/TIPS ABOUT LOCK JOINS? 03* Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-3F1C833.nycmny.east.verizon.net) has joined #tatchat 06every lock has a key...:) Thanks for the tip 03* Tatter is now known as Joanne 06wb Joanne browser problem, sorry IN THE LAST YEAR I MADE ABOUT 100 ROSEMARIE HEART SO I LEARN HOW TO UNDO THOSE LJ 01 BTDT JOANNE 01 YOU MEAN YOU DON'T TAT PERFECTLY EVERY TIME KATIA?? :) IM NOT A GODDESS YET SO I DONT DO EVERYTHING PERFECTLY ;) 01 LOL 01 ANYWAY, ON TO THE NEXT CONCEPT: SHOE LACE TRICK, A BIG NAME FOR A LITTLE SWAP OF THREADS 01 NEEDLE TATTERS LEARN THIS RIGHT OFF THE BAT 12Yes we do YOU NEED TO REMEMBER MIMI THAT I TATTED THOSE HEART WHILE MAX WAS HOSPITALIZE <@Linda> 05I think SLT is going to be a littler easier than some of the other things to learn. 01 I REMEMBER KATIA, SUCH A DARK TIME, I WAS HOPING TO ADD SOME LEVITY 01 BUT SHUTTLE TATTERS DON'T NEED SLT... AT LEAST, NOT UNTIL THEY NEED TO SWAP THEIR BALL AND SHUTTLE THREADS 06and the hearts are beautiful and such a nice pattern 01 (PS THIS IS USUALLY ONLY DONE WHEN YOU HAVE 2 SHUTTLES GOING, ONE SHUTTLE BEING THE BALL THREAD) 01 JUST PASS THE SHUTTLE THREADS OVER AND UNDER THE OTHER, LIKE TYING YOUR SHOE 01 (YOU DO HAVE LACES NOT VELCRO ON SOME SHOES, RIGHT??) HMMMM , WELL IM DOING A PATTERN THAT USED THE SHUTTLE AND BALL AND I HAVE TO DO THE SLT 01 SHUTTLE TATTING? 06cute but I do remember shoes with ties YES MIMI 01 WHAT ARE YOU MAKING? A PATTERN FROM JAN'S STAWARZ BOOK THE DOILY WITH THE FLOWERS IN IT , IF YOU HAVE THE BOOK 02* Joanne (Tatter@simplySPACE-3F1C833.nycmny.east.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 03* Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-3F1C833.nycmny.east.verizon.net) has joined #tatchat 03* Tatter is now known as Joanne woops again! 01 IT'S UPSTAIRS BUT I THINK I REMEMBER THAT ONE 01 PROBLEM IS, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHY YOU'D NEED TO SLT? 03* Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-6E318E6F.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #tatchat IN THE FLOWER WHEN YOU DO THE LEAVES YOU DO A CHAIN WITH A SMP THEN YOU DO A RING THAT NEED TO BE JOIN TO THAT SMP TO DO IT YOU NEED TO DO A SLT TO HAVE THE SHUTTLE THREAD ON THE RIGHT SIDE 03* Tatter is now known as TatPat1 01 I THINK I'D BETTER FIND THE BOOK AFTER CLASS 06smp? I'm drawing a blank 01 SO I STAND CORRECTED , SLT MAY ALSO BE HELPFUL IN SHUTTLE/BALL SITAUTIONS 01 HEY PAT SMALL PICOT HELLO PAT Patsy A. Goodman, Chula Vista, CA, USA, karpap@cox.net 01 IT'S ALSO HANDY IN (CAN YOU SEE THE TRANSITION COMING) 2-COLOR TATTING Hi Everyone, 06thanks sometimes I draw a blank :) <@Linda> 05Hey Pat from my home town of San Diego! 01 TATTING WITH 2 COLORS IS ACTUALLY VERY EASY Hey, Linda 01 TIE THE SHUTTLE/NEEDLE THREAD TO A BALL THREAD OF A DIFFERENT COLOR AND YOU'RE OFF 01 RINGS WILL BE THE OCLOR OF YOUR SHUTTLE THREAD IF YOU'RE A SHUTTLE TATTER, CHAINS THE COLOR OF THE BALL THREAD 01 NEEDLE TATTERS ITS A BIT DIFFERENT, RIGHT KATIA? Ok...that was going to be my next question NOT IF YOU DO THE TRUE RING WITH THE NEEDLE when you want to do 2 colors you just tie them together right ONE COLOR WILL BE ON THE NEEDLE AND THE OTHER COLOR WILL BE OFF THE BALL AND TIED BOTH END TOGETHER 01 EXACTLY HANANE 01 ANOTHER CONCEPT WITH A LONG NAME THAT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY SIMPLE... IT JUST "HAPPENS" ONCE YOU TIE THE 2 TOGETHER 01 BUT 01 ME, I'M A CONTROL FREAK 01 I CAN'T LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE 01 I HAVE TO DIRECT THOSE COLORS TO BE DIFFERENT SOMETIMES 01 CAN'T ACCEPT RINGS ONE COLOR, CHAINS ANOTHER? 01 THEN SLT IS YOUR FRIEND 01 ANYONE LOOK AT THE CANDY CANE TUTORIAL? <@Linda> 05Yes 12yes 06y 01 IT'S FOR NEEDLE TATTING, BUT SHUTTLE TATTERS HAVE A SIMILAR DILEMMA I wanna shuttle candy cane what is SLT again I missed it 01 IN ORDER TO GET THE CHAIN AFTER THE RING TO BE THE SAME COLOR, WHAT WILL YOU HAVE TO DO? 01 SHOE LACE TRICK :) SHOE LACE TRICK =SLT I knew that 01 :) :D 06Shoe Lace Trick a half knot like tieing your shoe <@Linda> 05YES! 06sorry my computer is skipping around tonight and didn't get back to the bottom 01 YOU WILL NEED 2 SHUTTLES TO TAT THE CANDY CANE the first part of tieing your shoes right ohhhh 2 shuttles 01 AFTER YOU MAKE A RED RING, IF YOU NEED A RED CHAIN, YOU'LL NEED TO MAKE A SLT <@Linda> 05Right. great 01 AFTER REVERSING WORK! 12OK which is easier to tat? with two colors/ needle or shuttle? 01 THEN THE RED THREAD WILL BE IN POSITION TO BE PUT OVER YOUR LEFT HAND AS A CHAIN 02* Joanne (Tatter@simplySPACE-3F1C833.nycmny.east.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 03* Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-3F1C833.nycmny.east.verizon.net) has joined #tatchat 03* Tatter is now known as Joanne 06whichever you are more comfortable with brb 01 YOU WON'T HAVE TO STL AFTER THE RED CHAIN BEFORE MAKING A WHITE RING 01 THE WHITE THREAD WILL ALKREADY BE IN TEH RIGHT PLACE TO MAKE A RING 01 AT THE END OF THE CANDY CANE DEMO, THERE'S A LITTLE LINK TO A PATTERN 01 http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/Candy_Cane.pdf 01 THIS WAS CONTRIBUTED BY STEPHANIE WHO ATTENDS THIS CLASS AS WINKERBILL 01 SHE'S TRAVELING RIGHT NOW AND OCULDN'T BE WITH US TONIGHT 01 THIS PATTERN IS A GREAT WAY TO GET USED TO USING 2 SHUTTLES IN THE SAME PIECE OF WORK 01 THE COLORS OF THREAD ARE DIFFERENT, SO YOU CAN KIND OF TELL WHICH ONE NEEDS TO GO WHERE. 01 MAYBE?? AM I DREAMING :)) 01 KATIA, I WAS HOPING YOU'D ANSWER CYNTHIA'S QUESTION 01 DO YOU FIND EITHER TATTING IMPLEMENT AN ADVANTAGE OR HINDRANCE IN 2-COLOR WORK? ABOUT THE SAME? SORRY CYNTHIA I MISSED THAT QUESTION OH I SEE IT WAS ISABELL , IT ALL DEPEND ON WICH ONE YOUR MORE CONFORTABLE WITH I GUESS , I DO IT WITH BOTH NEEDLE AND SHUTTLE 02* Hanane (Tatter@simplySPACE-819E6735.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 03* Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-819E6735.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #tatchat 12Thanks DEPENDING ON WHAT GROUP IM TEACHING 03* Tatter is now known as hanane opps 06I find as I get better with the needle it gets easier but both work well for me 01 THANKS KATIA AND CYNTHIA FOR HELPING ISABELL WITH HER QUESTION 01 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT 2-COLOR WORK? 12no I DO HAVE ONE POINT TO ADD no but I am sure I will think of some 06that is, Katia......... I DONT REALLY LIKE TO TIE BOTH THREAD TOGETHER SINCE THAT KNOT SEAMS TO SHOW UP WHEN YOU DONT WANT IT , SO I USUALLY START MAKING A RING WITH ONE COLOR AND THEN HADD THE SECOND COLOR WHEN I DO THE CHAIN , SO THAT WAY I DONT HAVE TO TIE THAT KNOT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WORK AND CAN HIDE THE ENDS IN THEIR PROPOR COLOR SIDE 12Good tip 01 EXCELENT TIP, THANKS KAITA <@Linda> 05I found that same trick Katia. It sure does make things look a little nicer when it is all said and done. 06good idea. I usually do that without thinking...Thanks 01 THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING 01 THE KNOT WILL SHOW INDEED... BUT ONLY IF YOU LOOK FOR IT :) 01 BUT ONCE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH STARTING WITH 2 THREADS TIED TOGETHER, ADDING THE 2ND ONE THIS KNOTLESS WAY IS A GOOD CHALLENGE TO TAKE ON. 01 YOU MAY LIKE THE RESULT BETTER... OR KNOT :) I DONT KNOW WHY BUT EVERY KNOT MADE IN TATTING SEAM TO JUMP RIGHT INTO MY FACE WHEN I LOOK AT PIECE 06until you find a good method of hiding ends the knot works <@Linda> 05That is a question I was wondering Katia and Mimi. Is there a one and only way to do things and you have to do them that way orrrrrr can you do what works for you in tatting to get the result you are after? 01 STOP MAKING THOSE JUMPING KNOTS KATIA :))) 01 THE LATTERL, LINDA 06Katia, I have the same problem when I discover an oops--every time I look at it I see it 01 IT MAKES TEACHING AND INITIALLY LEARNING PRETTY DIFFICULT WHEN A LOT OF ALTERNATIVES ARE OFFERED 01 SO I TRY TO OFFER THE EASIEST ONE THE WAY THAT WORKS FOR YOU LINDA IS THE BEST WAY 01 THEN WHEN/IF THE CLASS APPEARS TO BE CATCHING ON, KATIA SWOOPS IN WITH THESE NIFTY TIPS THAT REALLY HELP MAKE THE WORK LOOK EVEN BETTER <@Linda> 05I see. Thanks both of you. 01 BUT THERE IS NO SET WAY 01 HOW ABOUT RINGS OFF CHAINS? 01 ANYONE TRIED THOSE YET? 06that makes learning easier...Thanks to everyone Yes <@Linda> 05No not yet Mimi 12no not yet I found them very easy. 01 THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT NEEDLE TATTERS HAVE EASY 01 AT LEAST, EASIER THAN SHUTTLE TATTERS, RIGHT KATIA? NOT REALLY I work with shuttle only, no problem. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WITH NEEDLE WE NEED TO CUT THE THREAD FROM THE BALL AND THREAD BOTH ENDS 01 THEN YOU'RE DOING SCMR PAT? NO. SO WE NEED TO REMEMBER WICH NEEDLE IS THE CORE THREAD AND WICH IS THE BALL THREAD ;) BUT BESIDE THAT IT WORK THE SAME AS THE SHUTTLE 01 YOU TAT WITH THE BALL?? 01 I'M AFRAID I MAKE A MESS OF MY BALL IF I TRY TO TAT WIHT IT, SO I USE 2 SHUTTLES 01 I START THE CHAIN AS USUAL, AND TAT UP TO THE SITE WHERE THE RING WILL BE 01 I PUT DOWN THE SHUTTLE THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH 01 AND PICK UP THE ONE THAT HAS THE THREAD THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY OVER MY HAND ok I am off for the night...my hubby wants my full attention so 01 CHECK THE LESSON FOR THE LOG TOMORROW HANANE 01 THANKS FOR COMING I'll read the log and see what all I missed see you next week 12Bye Thanks for having me...it is a pain having him overseas bye TAKE CARE HANANE 01 WITH THAT NEW SHUTTLE, I MAKE THE RING THAT LIES ABOVE THE STITCH CAPS you too <@Linda> 05Bye Hanane Night! 02* hanane (Tatter@simplySPACE-819E6735.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 01 THEN I PUT THAT THREAD BACK OVER MY LEFT HAND TO RESUME THE CHAINA 01 WITH THE ORIGINAL SHUTTLE 01 THE CORE THREAD IS THE SAME THROUGH THE ENTIRE CHAIN 01 I JUST INTERRUPTED THE CHAIN TO MAKE THE RING 01 ONCE YOU DO THIS SUCCESSFULLY, YOU'LL WONDER WHY YOU THOUGHT IT WAS HARD <@Linda> 05Clever Mimi. I like that. 01 BUT IT *WAS* HARD AT FIRST TO GET THE IDEA 01 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/roundrobin/newbiesroundrobin.html IS A PATTERN In shuttle tatting, I'm doing the chain, when I come to where I want the ring I just drop the running thread, shuttle, pick up the other shuttle, make the ring, pick up running thread shuttle and continue chain. 01 WHERE THERE ARE LOTS OF RINGS OFF CHAINS 01 SO YOU DO USE 2 SHUTTLES PAT 01 IN FACT, THERE ARE 3 RINGS OFF EACH CHAIN, WOW! 12I am going to attempt this and see how well I do 01 IT'S A VERY PRETTY MOTIF IN MY OPINION 01 I HOPE YOU DO ISABELL 12Positive thinking 01 YOU CAN DO IT! 01 JUST REMEMBER KATIA'S ADVISE 01 ANY OTHER ADVICE KATIA? I make my chain until I come to where I want the ring. Drop the running thread shuttle, use the chain shuttle to make ring, Then continue chain as before. 06Isabell I know you can do it 12I did the awaeness ribbon ISABELL WITH THE NEEDLE YOU NEED TO TATT THE CHAIN OVER THE CORE NEEDLE AND WHNE YOU GET TO WHERE YOU NEED TO SART THAT RING YOU TAKE THE OTHER NEEDLE AND PLACE IT OVER THE 1ST NEEDLE LIKE A CROSS AND START TATTING A TRUE RING OVER THAT NEEDLE Yes I use two shuttles. WITH THE NEEDLE ISABELL Sorry, My answers are messed up, This computer doesn't work or spell very good for me. : ) DONT WORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING HERE PAT ;) 01 IF TYPOS WEREN'T ALLOWED, I'D HAVE BEEN BOOTED LONG AGO 01 IT'S GETTING KIND OF LATE 01 THERE'S ONE LAST TECHNIQUE TACKED ON TO THE END OF THIS LESSON 01 IT'S THE "SELF-CLOSING MOCK RING" 01 OTHERWISE KNOWN AS 01 NEEDLE TATTER'S RING FOR SHUTTLE TATTERS!! 01 DID ANYONE TRY THIS ONE? 12no yes <@Linda> 05NO Mimi the SCMR really has me stumped as of this moment but I refuse to let it get the best of me and I plan on getting that oneunder my control. 12Way to go, Linda 06no the directions confused me--just reading it--but I will master it eventually 01 THE DIRECTIONS ARE KIND OF DIFFICULT TO GET The Shuttle Bros. taught me this one. : ) 01 ME TOO PAT 01 IT'S EASIER WHEN "THE BOYS" SHOW YOU IN PERSON 01 BUT THEY AREN'T HERE 12My thing this week is to try all the patterns in the lesson 01 THE BASIC IDEA IS TO LEAVE A LOOP OF CORE THREAD AT THE BEGINNING OF A *C H A I N* 01 MAKE THE CHAIN <@Linda> 05Me too Isabell. 01 THEN DROP THE SHUTTLE THROUGH THE LOOP OF CORE THREAD 01 TO FINISH THE RING AND TIGHTEN 01 VOILA 01 IT'S A CHAIN THAT LOOKS LIKE A RING I still have to go to the books, every time I do this one. 01 AND THIS IS JUST HOW NEEDLE TATTERS DO THE RING 06ah ha you make it sound easier than the directions <@Linda> 05I am going to print that out Mimi. It doesn't sound to hard when you explain it like that. 01 THE TOUGH PART IS TRYING TO LEAVE THAT LOOP HANGING AND OUT OF THE WAY, NOT PULLING IT INTO THE CHAIN WHEN TATTING 01 'THE BOYS' USUALLY PUT THEIR PINKY INTO IT 01 BUT PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA TO TRY AT FIRST UNTIL YOU HAVVE THE IDEA 12Can you use a paperclip? 01 GREAT IDEA ISABELL 01 THAT WAY YOU CAN PULL ON THE PAPERCLIP TO ENLARGE THE LOOP SHOULD IT GET SUCKED INT WELL I USUALLY TIE A SLIP KNOT SO I CAN UNTIE THAT KNOT WHEN I NEED TO PASS THE SHUTTLE IN 01 INTO THE CHAIN 06or a clothes pin so it gives a bit more to work with?? 01 INTERESTING IDEA KATIA 01 HACKLE PLIERS TOO CYNTHIA (YOU KNOW HOW I LOVE MY HACKLE PLIERS) <@Linda> 05WOW Isabell. THAT WAY I CAN ALREADY HAVE THE LOOP THE SIZE I WAN TO PASS THE LOOP IN 06better idea Katia, I don't have any hackle pliers but want to get some...Stillwater doesn't have them at any store I've been in 01 YOU'RE KIDDING, NO FISHING STORES?? 01 FLY TIERS USE THEM ALL THE TIME 01 THEY HAVE OTHER NIFTY TOOLS THAT ARE USEFUL TOO 01 SPORTING GOODS STORES MAY HAVE THEM IF THEY HAVE FISHING HEAR 01 GEAR 01 JEEPERS 06WalMart doesn't carry them and this is a little town. I'd like a list so when I get to a fishing store I could at least try to get a couple 01 I CONSIDER SCMR AN EXTRA CREDIT KIND OF TECHNIQUE 01 BUT ONCE YOU HAVE THEM DOWN, YOU'LL FIND OTHER USES FOR THEM 01 MEANTIME, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TONIGHT ABOUT LESSON 3? 12no <@Linda> 05Linda No 06no 01 THANKS FOR COMING 01 PLEASE GIVE SOME OF THE PATTERNS A TRY 01 GET RID OF 2-SHUTTLE PHOBIA 12Thank you Mimi and Katia! 01 A WHOLE NEW WORLD OPENS UP WHNE YOU LEARN TO SUB A SHUTTLE FOR YOUR BALL THREAD 01 PLEASE ALSO LOOK OVER LESSON 4 01 IT'S ANOTHER JAM-PACKED LESSON 01 WE GET TO THE MAGICAL SPLIT RING 01 THE SPLIT RING IS USED IN A LOT OF TH EPATTERNS YOU'LL FIND ON THE INTERNET 12I saw a guild member make an edging with more than two colors and I turned GREEN! 01 NOT ILL I HOPE?? 12Oh no, envy 12It was gorgeous 01 I LOVE COLOR WORK <@Linda> 05Thanks to you both once again. Lots of good info and a very pleasant group to be with. See you all next week. 06Isabell e-mail me later and I can help walk you thru it. I have managed to find a way to do it 01 THANKS FOR COMING ALL 01 HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND TATTING 01 YOU HAVE A LONG WEEKEND RIGHT KATIA? 12Thanks Cynthia, will do 06Thanks Mimi and Katia HAVE A GRAT WEEK EVERYONG AND TAKE CARE Good night all, YES WE HAVE A 3 DAY 06also anyone else can e-mail me too about the split ring 12Goodnight 02* TatPat1 (Tatter@simplySPACE-6E318E6F.sd.sd.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 02* Isabell (Tatter@simplySPACE-BC76457F.austin.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 01 ENJOY! 02* @Linda (Tatter@simplySPACE-94DAB2BB.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 01 SEE YOU NEXT WEEK I WILL ALL TATTING :) SEE YOU NEXT WEEK NIGHT 06Peace Session Close: Thu May 15 19:22:45 2008