Session Start: Thu Mar 06 18:02:06 2008 Session Ident: #tatchat 03[18:02] * Now talking in #tatchat [18:02] 12Suzy - just type a character and a return fairly often and maybe you can hang on [18:02] 06Susy-S type something when your name gets near the top and you shouldn't get bumped [18:02] hi Mimi [18:02] x 01[18:02] Good evening all, what a large group! [18:02] Good Evening Mimi [18:02] 12Hey Mimi! [18:02] 04Hi, Mimi [18:02] x [18:02] I'm here 01[18:02] I tried to write to you this week Katia, but the message kept bouncing [18:02] 06Hi Mimi and Katia 01[18:02] Did you finally get one? [18:02] i know i have no clue why [18:02] 12Some regulars and some newbies. Good group [18:02] nothing on the personal mail 01[18:03] No, personal mail bounces 01[18:03] I sent to lesson-mail [18:03] aye ill have DH have a look at it 01[18:03] thanks 03[18:03] * Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-BC76457F.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #tatchat [18:03] i did get on the lesson mail 01[18:03] OK, mnostly I wanted you to know I wasn't totally ignoring you! [18:03] 12hi Mimi! [18:03] 12I'm back... 01[18:04] HI Stephanie, glad to see you here [18:04] 12Did you bring us some water? [18:04] Mimi worry Mimi i know you would nt ignore me porpusly [18:04] oupd dont worry [18:04] how his your Dad Mimi? [18:04] hi again trying to stay on [18:04] 12Why is it that no matter WHAT size or color of thread you have lots of, you always need something you don't have? 01[18:04] Surgery on Wednesday morning (finally, after I left) [18:05] how did it go? [18:05] 12Wow, what happened to your Dad, Mimi? [18:05] has anyone started the projects? [18:05] OMG that's so true 01[18:05] and he came through just fine. By 2pm he was teasing the nurses over his lunch [18:05] 06I use a color so I can see when I get near the top 01[18:05] I haven't heard yet if he's home today [18:05] LOL man ;) [18:05] 12Hope you get a good report, Mimi [18:05] Welcome tatter [18:06] Isabell Hi everyone! [18:06] 12Hey Isabell [18:06] You made it Isabell Great :) [18:06] 12hi Isabell 01[18:06] Daddy needed a pacemaker upgrade that required minor surgery. Mostly my mom needed some support to keep her calm [18:06] 04Hi, Isabell. [18:07] Isabell do you kow how to change tatter to your name? [18:07] (Isabell) Yes, I had a hard time trying to get in! Much easier to start a neww needlecraft! [18:07] 12Wow, I hope everything went great and he's well again real fast! [18:07] 04Been through that, Mimi. Glad he's doing o.k. [18:07] even if it was minor surgery its stil sugery and we never know what can happen [18:07] 12Yeah, my dad, had it rough when mom had surgery. Mom was totally out of it [18:07] 12Everything is great now 01[18:07] I see I'm in good company with parent care :) [18:07] 06great [18:08] no I don't know how to change name [18:08] 04Amen. [18:08] Isabell do you see on the bottm right of your window a white space? 02[18:08] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [18:08] 12Sandwiched generation we are 03[18:08] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat [18:08] yes I do [18:08] clic in there and type your name and hit enter. [18:08] 12WB Suzy [18:09] wb suzy [18:09] Isabell [18:09] 12oops, Isabell it's the small white space under the words "change nick to" [18:09] it the small one not the big one Isabell [18:09] 12at the bottom right corner 03[18:09] * Tatter is now known as Isabell [18:09] 12Yay! [18:09] well done isabell [18:09] 12Yay!! 01[18:09] Good job! [18:09] 12It's all easy after that accomplish 01[18:09] We've accomplished the first goal of the Meet and Greet Lesson [18:09] 06tada!:) 01[18:10] To get people logged in (hopefully not bumped too) 01[18:10] and get their screen names visible 03[18:10] * Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-D0F067D.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) has joined #tatchat 01[18:10] How about we practice signing in? [18:10] Welcome tatter 01[18:10] Sign in is the usual beginning of the class [18:10] x 01[18:10] We ask for your name, your location, and your email address [18:10] 12NancyCarol Bham Alabama (USA) bookjazz at yahoo 01[18:10] the email address is optional [18:10] Sherree Givens, Hesperia, Ca. sherree10@yahoo.com 01[18:10] NancyCarol did hers a nice way [18:11] 04Cathy, south Georgia, lucie296@yahoo.com [18:11] 12Stephanie, just home after 3 weeks in NC....back in GA [18:11] 06Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater Ok (USA) tattingalong at yahoo dot com 01[18:11] I say optional because the transcript of this class gets posted on the website [18:11] Katia Vallée, Sherbrooke, Québec, Canada, lady_elhasa@hotmail.com 01[18:11] and some folks don't like the address out there to be possibly harvested by spammers [18:11] Priscilla McLane Sewell NJ pmmclane at comcast.net [18:11] 12It is searchable on google, etc 01[18:11] sorry we're working on a more secure place [18:11] Welcome tatter [18:11] Isabell Sandoval Texas isabell.sandoval@yahoo.com 01[18:11] but the upside of putting in your address 01[18:11] is that we can email you after class if necessary [18:11] 12Can Spawn keep the robots out? 03[18:11] * Tatter392 (Tatter@simplySPACE-D0F067D.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) has joined #tatchat [18:11] Madison, Al...worleysu@bellsouth.net 02[18:11] * Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-D0F067D.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) [18:11] Carol, Madison, AL mntak99@yahoo.com 03[18:12] * Tatter392 is now known as Natasha 01[18:12] MIMI DILLMAN, SNOHOMISH WA USA, ntrop at ix.netcom.com [18:12] 06c [18:12] 06Hi Natasha 01[18:12] Welcome Natasha we're signing in [18:12] 12Oh, Suzy. You're going to be in Atlanta, right? [18:12] 12I'm in Athens, GA for now, probably moving to NC sometime in the spring...around May [18:12] Hello [18:12] Hello Natasha 01[18:12] Mr. Spawn is a good guy, but he has to make a living [18:12] Sorry I am a bit late [18:12] x 01[18:12] We'd have to collect fees to go for a paid service such as SimplySpace normally provides [18:12] Natasha, Nashua, NH lunazot at hotmail dot com [18:13] 12Suzy - I'll meet you at Georgia's workshop 01[18:13] This classroom is arranged between Georgia Seitz and Simplyspace 01[18:13] and are we grateful to have the use for free [18:13] I'm also in Georgia ATL class 01[18:13] SO THAT'S THE LOW-DOWN ON WHERE WE ARE [18:13] 12Oh, great! [18:13] 06c 01[18:13] NEXT, THE TEACHERS USUALLY USE UPPER CASE SO THAT THEIR REMARKS ARE VISIBLE IN THE TRANSCRIPT (LOG) 03[18:13] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has left #tatchat 01[18:13] THE NIFTY COLORS YOU CAN CHOOSE WILL NOT BE VISIBLE IN THE LOG, SORRY 01[18:13] OOPS LOST SUZY YET AGAIN POOR THING 03[18:14] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat 01[18:14] SO THAT'S THE CLASSROOM EXPLANATION OF THIS SESSION 01[18:14] ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CLASSROOM AND USING IT? [18:14] SUZY TRY TYPING A K AND HIT ENTER OFTEN [18:14] 12k [18:14] sorry about the logoff/logon thing. I can't see any chatting. [18:14] 07n [18:14] k [18:14] maybe font size 01[18:14] SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO FIND THE SEATBELTS TO KEEP EVERYONE IN THE ROOM AND NOT BUMPED :-( [18:15] 12You can enlarge font by cicking on the font button 01[18:15] KATIA, CAN FONT SIZE BE CHANGED? i 01[18:15] THANKS NANCY [18:15] k [18:15] yes 01[18:15] I'M ON MIRC, IT'S LESS WHIZ BANG ON TEXT [18:15] 12could be the weather where Suzy is....I have trouble staying on in rainy/wet weather [18:15] I THINK [18:15] k [18:15] I DO HAVE A QUESTION [18:15] k [18:15] I'm in the same town...not having a problem [18:15] 12when the little window pops ups pick something like a 22 and a serif font for easier reading. [18:15] 04I change my font size all the time. [18:15] WHAT EVERYONE ARE LEARNING NEEDLE OR SHUTTLE? [18:15] 07n [18:15] k [18:15] 07Shuttle [18:15] 06Suzy are you on Mirc or applet? [18:15] shuttle [18:15] Shuttle [18:15] Isabell n [18:16] 12Mostly doing shuttle but sometimes needle now [18:16] 04shuttle [18:16] 06both [18:16] 12;-) [18:16] Mirc [18:16] SUZY HIS ON APLET [18:16] 12And then you can click on the enlarge screen size to fill your display screen 01[18:16] I KNOW IN INTERNET EXPLORER AND FIREFOX THERE IS A TOP-LINE MENU OPTION UNDER 'VIEW' CALLED "TEXT SIZE" AND YOU CAN INCREASE/DECREASE THAT SETTING [18:16] shuttle [18:16] 12chuttle only 01[18:16] BUT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS CHANGE THE SCREEN IF OTHER HTML THINGS OVERRIDE IT [18:16] 12shuttle [18:16] 07n 01[18:16] I'M SHUTTLE [18:16] k [18:16] LOL MIMI GOOD ONE [18:16] k 02[18:16] * Priscilla (Tatter@simplySPACE-C8F5F869.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 03[18:16] * Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-C8F5F869.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #tatchat [18:16] SO IM SHUTTLE ALSO ;) [18:16] 06also click on font above name then a small window opens and you can chagne the folnt 03[18:17] * Tatter is now known as Priscilla [18:17] k [18:17] I FOUND A IRC CHAT FOR FREE THAT WORK GREAT HERE [18:17] What is the other way to sign on other than MIRC? [18:17] k [18:18] 06With Applet Java [18:18] YES TRY TO FIND iCECHAT [18:18] 07Carol, if you have Java installed, you can open the chat in your browser 03[18:18] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has left #tatchat [18:18] I downloaded with mIRc and couldn't figure out how to join chat griup [18:18] ITS VERY EASY TO USE [18:18] 04:) 03[18:18] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat [18:18] k [18:18] I'm seeing fine with mirc....Suzy doesn't see the chat only her entries,\ [18:18] I'm on the phone with er [18:19] WITH ICE CHAT ITS VERY EASY TO LOG IN HERE [18:19] how? [18:19] 12I just open thru Firefox. Typed in URL and then a box pops up and asks if I "trust" the certificate or something like that 01[18:19] AND IT'S TRULY FREEWARE ACCORDING TO THE WEBSITE http://www.icechat.net/site/ [18:19] IT IS FREE 03[18:20] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has left #tatchat [18:20] 07I log in via browser, just like Nancy [18:20] THANKS FOR THE LINK MIMI 01[18:20] Nancy, you're web browser based. There are other ways to connect that avoid using the web broswer 01[18:20] Might help some of those with time-out problems to try a different way 01[18:20] IRC CLIENT PROGRAMS MAY ALLOW YOU TO RECORD YOUR OWN LOG [18:21] 12Everything works fine most of the time. The mirc thing didn't behave for me at all 01[18:21] THE WEB-BROWSER VERSION DOES NOT DO A LOG FOR YOU [18:21] 06c [18:21] I ALSO ADD ALOT OF PROBLEM WITH MIRC [18:21] 12ohhhh....so that's why the teachers use MIRC? [18:21] 12I depend on y'all for the log! 01[18:21] DIFFERENT PC'S AND ISP'S MEAN DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES - GOOD THING WE HAVE MANY CHOICES! [18:21] 07;-) but you post a log for the chat later, Mimi [18:21] 12good thing I have a computer-whiz husband 03[18:21] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat 01[18:22] UNTIL MIRC DOESN'T WORK OR I CAN'T CONNECT... :)) [18:22] k [18:22] I HAVELOGS NOW ALSO ;) 03[18:22] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has left #tatchat [18:22] What is another easy choice? [18:22] oh BEFORE I FORGET AND SOME GET CONFUSED I DO MISSTYPE ALOT [18:22] TRY iCE CHAT [18:22] Icechat asked for custom install [18:22] who doesn't [18:23] 07great! so we definitely we'll have some kind of log afterall :-) 01[18:23] GOOD POINT KATIA: TYPOS ALLOWED [18:23] 06without typos it wouldn't be so fun :) 01[18:23] JUST LIKE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ARE ALLOWED IF SOMETHING ISN'T CLEAR 01[18:23] SOME TYPOS ARE REAL DOOZIES :) [18:23] AYE BUT MINE ARE SOMETIME WIERD ..... SINCE LIKE YOU LIKE TO POINT ENGLISH ISNT MY MAIN LANGUAGE [18:23] 06there are no dumb questions 01[18:23] ISN'T THAT AMAZING THAT KATIA CAN TEACH SO WELL IN A FOREIGN LANGUAGE. I STILL CAN'T GET OVER IT [18:24] 12no problem Katia....tatting is our main language [18:24] 12;-) [18:24] LOL [18:24] 06:) 01[18:24] GOOD POINT STEPHANIE! [18:24] 07:-) 01[18:24] NEXT THING ON THE LIST: SUPPLIES 03[18:24] * Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-5122A7BD.bhm.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat 02[18:24] * NancyCarol (Tatter@simplySPACE-5122A7BD.bhm.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout) 01[18:24] HAS EVERYONE GOT THE SUPPLIES THEY NEED FOR STARTING OUT? [18:24] 06yes [18:24] Yes 03[18:24] * Tatter is now known as NancyCarol [18:24] Yes [18:24] 04yes [18:24] yes 01[18:24] TATTING IMPLEMENT (SHUTTLE/NEEDLE), THREAD, ETC [18:24] 12which leads to the old question of no matter how much thread I have, I always need something I don't have.... [18:25] 07yes... just got more shuttles (that's why I was late ;-)) [18:25] 12yes 02[18:25] * Priscilla (Tatter@simplySPACE-C8F5F869.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 03[18:25] * Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-C8F5F869.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #tatchat 03[18:25] * Tatter is now known as Priscilla 01[18:25] SO NO QUESTIONS ON WHERE TO FIND SUPPLIES OR WHAT TYPES? [18:25] DONT WORRY STEPHANIE NEEDING MORE THREAD IS VERY CONTAGIOUS WHEN YOU START TATTING [18:26] 06always need good leads on supplies [18:26] 12all I need is a ball of white....size 20.... [18:26] 12and I have everything BUT whta I need! 01[18:26] HECK I'VE BEEN TATTING FOREVER AND I ALWAYS WANT MORE - EVERYTIME I LOOK AT YARN PLAYERS HAND DYED THREADS, OR... [18:26] 12:-( [18:26] 04Wink, I might have that. [18:26] AND ITS UNCURABLE [18:26] 07Cynthia, thank you SO much for the links!!!! I am so sorry I did not reply to you -- this weel has been crazy :-( [18:26] 12LOVE a good stash --- like knitting addiction [18:26] 12That's ok, needlework shop downtown has it, I'm sure, and I have to go past there tomorrow to get to the doctor's office. :-) [18:26] 06don'tnwe all suffer from that problem Mimi [18:27] 06Glad you got the links Natasha [18:27] SO EVERYONE FOUND THERE SUPPLIES ? [18:27] 12oh, that reminds me - I got the Mark Myers Angels book yesterday and Mimi did at least one of the examples pictured in the book - fantastic looking! [18:27] THE ONE WITH CLUNY LEAF 01[18:27] BLUSH [18:27] 12Yes, and it's gorgeous! [18:28] 12Cluny of course! 01[18:28] MARK ASKED ME TO TEST-TAT AND DID I HAVE A TOUGH TIME [18:28] he does such nice work! [18:28] 12I'll have to practice until I'm 372 before I could even TRY to get Cluny leaves that look like that. 01[18:28] IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME TO HAVE 2 DIFFERENT LENGTH LEAVES IN THE SAME PATTERN [18:28] 07n [18:28] 06c 01[18:28] I HAD TO DO A BIT OF RETRO-TATTING BECAUSE I DIDN'T FIGURE THAT OUT UNTIL TOO LATE [18:28] 12Tat-man is scary good.... and so is MImi 01[18:28] PART OF PATTERN READING IN ANY FIBER DISCIPLINE - LOOK AHEAD!! [18:28] 06see we all learn something every time we tat 01[18:28] THANKS [18:29] What is the server name? [18:30] I droole when I look at all the different types of tatting patterns [18:30] SERVER NAME IS chat.simplyspace.com [18:30] YOUR INSTALLING ICE CHAT CAROL? [18:30] Suzy is trying to [18:31] 07same here, Isabell... I found a lot of interesting patterns online. Cannot wait to learn enough to start doing them :-) 03[18:31] * simplyspace (IceChat7@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat [18:31] THEN SHE LL HAVE TO ADD THE CHANNEL AND ITS #tatchat [18:32] hello, I'm back [18:32] 12Many patterns are easy to do. Once you have done the beginner classes, you will be able to do many things. [18:32] How does she add her name? [18:32] sUZY DO YOU SEE A BUTTON NAMED : NICKNAME? [18:32] 12Then you will be tatting instead of drooling. ;-) 03[18:33] * simplyspace is now known as Suzy-S [18:33] THERE YOU GO [18:33] Thanks, my husband will like that--tee hee [18:33] 07:-) :-) :-) true [18:33] 04Yea, Suzy!! [18:33] 12Wow, fantastic, Suzy! [18:33] 12She can tat and continue to drool! [18:33] Now I'm really back and I have a name :-) [18:33] NOW YOU LL ONLY HAVE TO OPEN THIS AND YOU LL BE LOG IN HERE [18:33] 12No, it's not good to get your thread wet. [18:33] 12Wonderful Suzy [18:33] 12NOt at the same time... [18:33] 07Great job, Suzie! [18:34] 12LOL [18:34] TRY GETTING YOUR THREAD IN A CUP OF COFFEE [18:34] Thread must stay clean and dry! [18:34] 06but we all have drooled over patterns.... [18:34] She sees a few lines then doesn't see the chat..any ideas? [18:34] 12I dropped a whole ball of thread in a glass of water once....didn't like that thread anyway.... [18:34] 12Oh, not! [18:34] 12Eventually gave up and threw it out. [18:34] 04lol, Wink 01[18:34] Took me forever to find it - a photo of Mimi and Mark tatting clunies posted by Sherry http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ look for Monday Sept 10 2007 about 1/2 way down. [18:34] 07:-) [18:34] YES THERE IS A TAB ON THE TOP ONE NAME CONSOLE AND THE OTHER ONE NAME #tatchat CLIC ON #tatchat 02[18:35] * Natasha (Tatter@simplySPACE-D0F067D.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 03[18:35] * Suzy-S (IceChat7@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has left #tatchat 03[18:35] * Suzy-S (IceChat7@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat [18:35] Thread is cheap and not worth the stressing over losing some. Dropping in coffee, maybe she wanted to tint it. 03[18:35] * Tatter (Tatter@simplySPACE-D0F067D.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) has joined #tatchat 01[18:35] ARE WE BACK ON DYING THREAD AGAIN? 01[18:35] LOL [18:36] oops... I did something, and my window disappeared... back now [18:36] ACTUALLY I PICKUP A BALL OF WHITE THREAD AND IT SLIP OFF MY HAND WHEN I WAS PASSING IT OVER THE CUP OF COFFEE... CAME OUT A NICE COLOR THOUGH 03[18:36] * Tatter is now known as Natasha [18:36] no, after seening yarnplayers, no need to dye [18:36] SUZY CAN YOU SEE US TALKING NOW? [18:36] No 02[18:37] * Suzy-S (IceChat7@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: Pull the pin and count to what?) [18:37] I haven't tried hand dyed thread yet 01[18:37] I HOPE SUZY HAS BETTER LUCK WITH HER SHUTTLE THAN WITH HER IRC CLIENTS [18:37] neither have I, I need to get really brave and buy some 01[18:37] SOME OF MY SHUTTLES ARE NOT COOPERATIVE, THOUGH 01[18:37] COME TO THINK OF IT :) [18:37] been debating it [18:37] 12I used to dye doilies in tea sometimes.... [18:37] me to [18:38] I think i need some [18:38] 06c 03[18:38] * Suzy-S (IceChat7@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat [18:38] I just found out that I don't like DMC metal shuttle with a hook on the end... Regular plastic shuttles rule! ;-) :-) [18:38] wb Suzi [18:38] 12Mimi I was gone looking at the angels. Wonderful!!! 01[18:38] METAL SHUTTLES TAKE SOME GETTING USED TO 01[18:39] THANK YOU NANCY [18:39] 12I like the clover shuttles the best. [18:39] 06different shuttles for different hands 01[18:39] I LEARNED WITH THOSE METAL SHUTTLES 01[18:39] I LIKED THE BOBBIN 01[18:39] AND THEY WERE MOST PLENTIFUL IN HOUSTON IN HTE 80'S [18:39] I LOVE THE POST WOODEN SHUTTLE 02[18:39] * Suzy-S (IceChat7@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: OUCH!!!) [18:39] I just tried the Sew Mates and i love them 01[18:39] I DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER, NOT MUCH OTHER CHOICE! [18:39] 06I like the metal and plastic ones with the hook 01[18:39] SEW MATES MY NEW FAVE 03[18:39] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat 01[18:39] CLEAR AND HOLDS MORE THREAD [18:39] 06The little clovfers make me crazy [18:39] n [18:39] I have arthritis and needletatting is easier for me, Have Needle Will Tat [18:39] IM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY SHE CAN T SEE US TALK [18:39] 12I like the sew mates, just tried them, bUT I'll have to get used to the bigger size. [18:39] 12I like to use my Aero for one and a little clover as the second one 01[18:40] BUT I STILL CUT MYSELF ON THE POINTS OF SEW MATES AND CLOVERS [18:40] 12MAYBE I have small hands? [18:40] 12phone - brb 01[18:40] AERO'S ARE NICE TOO [18:40] 06I like that Isabell :) 01[18:40] MY DH FOUND AERO BEFORE I DID 01[18:40] HE WAS SO PROUD OF HIMSELF 01[18:40] UNTIL [18:40] 12Sew mates? Don't know them 01[18:40] I USED IT!! 01[18:40] RRRRRRPPPP!! 01[18:40] :) [18:40] YOU NEEDLE TAT ISABELL? [18:40] Thanks cynthia 01[18:40] YOU SAW SEW MATES IN COLUMBIA NANCY I'M SURE [18:40] 12I did? 01[18:40] THEY'RE CLEAR PURPLE AND ALSO NOW NEON GREEN [18:40] k [18:40] the hook on that shuttle catched my thread all the time.. it's driving me crazy 01[18:41] THEY MAY SAY "LACIS" ON THEM TOO [18:41] 12shaped like clovers [18:41] I got my sew mates from handy hands 01[18:41] DEPENDS ON WHO'S THE VENDOR [18:41] I type with hunt and peck [18:41] 06hold it the other way around that can help Natasha 03[18:41] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has left #tatchat [18:41] 12Oh, OK. I'll look and see 01[18:41] I SAW THEM AT KAREY'S TABLE AND ALSO 03[18:41] * Suzy-S (IceChat7@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat 01[18:41] ZIGZAG CORNER [18:41] 12purple sounds great [18:42] 07That's a good idea, Cynthia. I need to try that [18:42] 06clover is a brand I think they are small with a longer point 01[18:42] SEW MATE SHUTTLE IMAGE: http://www.be-stitchedstore.com/shopexd.asp?id=95 [18:42] I needle tat, I found it easier 01[18:42] ANYTHING THAT'S PURPLE IS JUST FINE (EXCEPT THE END OF YOUR FINGER CHOKED OFF BY THREAD :)) 01[18:43] BACK TO THE LESSON PLAN BEFORE IT GETS TOO LATE 01[18:43] SHUTTLE TATTERS: ANY QUESTION ABOUT WINDING UP YOUR SHUTTLE? [18:43] no [18:43] 12Thanks for photo Mimi. so clover shaped but larger... not as large as Tatsy though? [18:43] 04no 01[18:43] LOADING IT WITH THREAD I MEAN (JEEPERS) [18:43] no [18:43] 06Natasha either with the hook open, left or right can also be in palm of hand [18:43] 07sew mate looks very similar to clover... I use clover 01[18:44] NO NOT AS LARGE AS TATSY. SIZE LIKE RED PLASTIC BOYE [18:44] 07no questions 01[18:44] BIGGER THAN CLOER NATASHA 01[18:44] THAN CLOVER I MEAN [18:44] no questions 01[18:44] GET A FEW MORE YARDS OF THREAD ON, PLUS YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH IS LEFT ON THE SHUTTLE BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR 02[18:44] * Suzy-S (IceChat7@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout) 01[18:44] OK, LAST QUESTION IS TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE CAN DO A DOUBLE STITCH [18:44] 06Should the thread come off the top or bottom? 01[18:45] OF THE SHUTTLE CYNTHIA? [18:45] yes, can do double stitch [18:45] 07interesting... I'll try it... does it hold more thread than clover? [18:45] yes, can do double stitch [18:45] 06yes when you are tatting should the thread come off closer to the fingers or wrist? 01[18:45] YES ID DOES NATASHA [18:45] 12holds more thread than Clover, yes [18:45] 04yes. 01[18:45] POSITIONING OF THREAD WITH REGARD TO SHUTTLE AND WRIST IS A PERSONAL CHOICE 01[18:46] I'VE SEEN IT DONE DIFFERENT WAYS [18:46] 07yes, can do DS [18:46] 06just getting that clarified 01[18:46] I LIKE TO WIND MY SHUTTLE COUNTERCLOCKWISE [18:46] 06I've been todl both ways are right and wrong [18:46] yes/Double Stitch 03[18:46] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat [18:46] sUZY IS STILL HAVE DIFFICULTY? [18:46] Suzy and I can both do dblstc 01[18:46] AND POSITION THE THREAD COMING OFF AT 5 PM [18:46] 12I wind my shuttle "backwards" (clockwise). only saw one other person do it that way.... 01[18:46] BOTTOM, RIGHT SIDE [18:46] Suzy will try another computer next week [18:46] 12works better for me. [18:47] 06I think what works for the tatter is best :) [18:47] 07n 01[18:47] THAT'S JUST FINE STEPHANIE, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER FOR YOUR HAND POSITIONING WHEN MAKING YOUR DS'S 03[18:47] * Suzy (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat 01[18:47] THERE'S AS MANY WAYS TO MAKE DS'S AS THERE ARE TATTERS [18:47] 12Well....I tat a bit differently than most, too.... 01[18:47] PALMETTO TATTERS PRODUCEDD A VIDEO ILLUSTRATING MANY 01[18:47] SOME OF THOSE WAYS WERE VERY DIFFERENT TOO :) [18:47] 06variety is what makes life special 01[18:47] EXACLTY CYNTHIA 01[18:48] THEY ALL PRODUCE REGULAR DS'S AND THAT'S WHAT COUNTS [18:48] 12I was so excited when a friend loaned me her video - there are 3 other people in this world who tat the way I do! 02[18:48] * Suzy (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ) 03[18:48] * Suzy (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat 01[18:48] YAY [18:48] 12For years I thought I'd just learned weird.... [18:48] 12;-) [18:48] 07:-) 01[18:48] WAIT TIL YOU SEE REVERSE REIGO UPSIDE DOWN AND LEFT-HANDED 02[18:48] * Suzy (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ) [18:48] 06we're all weird :) 03[18:48] * Suzy (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat [18:48] 12was that on the video? 01[18:49] I STILL COULDNT' FIGURE THAT ONE OUT BUT HER TATTING IS JUST FINE 01[18:49] YES, IT WAS [18:49] 12hmmm...might have to borrow it again.... [18:49] 12I'm still so slow with tatting. Some of those folks just FLY 02[18:49] * Suzy (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ) 03[18:49] * Suzy (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat 01[18:49] IT'S FUN TO HEAR GEORGIA TALK TOO 01[18:49] SHE NARRATES THE VIDEO [18:49] 12after a bazillion years, you'll fly, too. 02[18:49] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Ping timeout) [18:49] 07is it the video that's sold on Handy Hands? [18:49] 12I thought Georgia was a southerner after listening to her narrate the video. [18:49] NO NATASHA 02[18:49] * Suzy (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ) 03[18:49] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat 01[18:49] NO, IT'S SOLD BY THE PALMETTO TATTERS. IT'S NOT INSTRUCTIONAL, MORE OF AN ILLUSTRATION [18:49] the picots slow me down oh and the joins [18:49] 07hhtatting I meant -- do they have that video? 02[18:50] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ) [18:50] 12they don't have that video, you have to get it from Palmettos' 03[18:50] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat 03[18:50] * Retrieving #tatchat modes... [18:50] 07thank you... I'll look 01[18:50] http://www.palmettotatters.org/ [18:50] yes I have that video with Clark 02[18:50] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ) 03[18:50] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat [18:50] 12I changed the way I did joins recently - THAT slowed me down quite a lot, but I'm getting better (and faster) at it. 02[18:51] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ) 01[18:51] ANY TATTER IN THE S.E. USA NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT PALMETTO TATTERS TAT DAY. GREAT TO ATTEND IF YOU HAVE THE BUDGET/TIME FOR TRAVEL [18:51] 07thank you for the link, Mimi! 03[18:51] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat [18:51] what deid you change to get fast joins? [18:51] 12natasha look at bottom of that page for the video 02[18:51] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ) 03[18:51] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat [18:52] 12Well....to get faster, it took lots of practice, but I changed from the "traditional" join to a different type of join, and that slowed me WAY down until I started to get used to it [18:52] 07I opened the page, but figured I'd look after we are done here 02[18:52] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) Quit (Quit: ) 03[18:52] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has joined #tatchat 03[18:53] * Suzy-S (worleysu@simplySPACE-2550FDAA.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net) has left #tatchat 01[18:53] LAST PART OF CLASS IS TO GET ANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED, AND A REMINDER FROM THE TEACHERS TO READ THE LESSON FOR THE FOLLOWING WEEK BEFORE CLASS 01[18:53] SO PLEASE MAKE SURE TO READ OVER LESSON 1 FOR NEXT WEEK [18:54] 12yes ma'am 01[18:54] AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO TRY SOME PATTERNS TOO [18:54] AND TRY THE EXERCISE [18:54] ok teacher [18:54] 12so you know what questions you need to ask [18:54] 07I actually have several questions in regards to the next lesson already ;-), but I'll wait until next week :-) 01[18:54] SORRY I'M A BIT OF A SLAVE-DRIVER [18:54] 12Will do 01[18:54] I THINK IT'S GENETIC [18:54] HEHE 01[18:54] IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS LESSON, WE CAN ANSWER ABOUT LESSON 1 UP UNTIL 10 IF YOU LIKE [18:54] 12Well, if you wait until the class to check out the lesson, then you don't know if you are going to have questions or not [18:54] what about homework? [18:55] 12You and Katia are always extremely responsive and encouraging [18:55] 12so you have to study it, try the exercises, and see what worked and what you need to ask about. 01[18:55] HOMEWORK IS AT YOUR DISCRETION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHARE [18:55] 06Natasha what are you questions? 01[18:55] BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO SCAN AND EMAIL TO US FOR COMMENTARY 01[18:55] AND IF YOU AGREE, WE CAN POST IT TO THE WEBSITE FOR OTHERS TO VIEW 01[18:55] IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HOMEWORK DONE BY PAST STUDENTS, IT'S POSTED HERE: [18:55] ok thank you [18:55] 07my 1st question is about picot gauges... 01[18:56] http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/completedhomework.html [18:56] Is the class on Thursday at the same time we started tonight or Monday. [18:56] 06ask away 01[18:56] WE'VE HAD SOME VERY TALENTED STUDENTS [18:56] 07I want to make some gauges, but I am not sure what thw most common sizes are 01[18:56] THE NEXT BEGINNER'S CLASS IS THURSDAY MARCH 13 9PM NEW YORK TIME 01[18:56] MONDAYS' CLASSES ARE LED BY GEORGIA SEITZ, YOU'RE WELCOME TO ATTEND THOSE, TOO 01[18:56] GOOD QUESTION NATASHA 01[18:57] I'M NOT SURE EITHER! [18:57] 07:-) 01[18:57] BUT MOST OF THE ONES I SEE ARE IN IMPERIAL MEASURES [18:57] 06the size you need 01[18:57] NOT METRIC [18:57] 12wouldn't size of the picot depend on what size thred you're using? 01[18:57] AT LEAST NOT AROUND HERE! 01[18:57] IT DOES INDEED STEPHANIE 01[18:57] BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A FEW SIZES PREMADE [18:57] THOSE ARE THE SIZE I USE picot gauges: 1/6", 1/8", 3/16", 1/4", 5/16", 1/2" and 7/8". DEPENDING ON THE IZE OF THREAD AND WHAT IM DOING 01[18:57] SO YOU CAN AT LEAST TEST TO SEE WHAT YOU LIKE 01[18:57] THANKS KATIA, YOU SAVED ME THE TYPING LOL 01[18:58] SO EVEN YOU DON'T HAVE METRIC GAUGES? 01[18:58] I'VE BEEN KNOWN TO USE WHATEVER'S AT HAND [18:58] DO WANT IT IN METRIC? [18:58] 07so if I make some gauges they really won't wor for different threads :-(... How do you know then how long to make picots and how to make sure they are all of same size? 01[18:58] NO, THAT'S OK [18:58] 06I couldn't remember what the sizes I got from Georgia are 01[18:58] I'VE BEEN KNOWN TO USE TOOTHPICKS, COFFEE STIRRERS, AND KNITTING NEEDLES [18:58] 12gauges work for anything 01[18:58] GEORGIA'S = SAME SIZES KATIA LISTED [18:58] 12I've even used raw spaghetti before.... [18:58] 12short pieces [18:58] 12Another way to measure pictos is to use that stick on measuring tape and just attach a little to your left index finger 01[18:58] SURE COULD [18:58] GOERGIA HAS THE SIZE I SAID [18:59] 06Natasha, you can use a lot of things mostly you make them the size that looks right to you 01[18:59] EXACTLY NANCY. SOME PEOPLE EVEN HAVE HAD SUCH MARKS TATTOOED ON THEIR FINGER (SMALL OF COURSE) [18:59] 12oh, and I've made 2 dots with a fine point Sharpie on my index finger someitmes 01[18:59] I LIKE THAT IDEA BETTER STEPHANIE [18:59] 12it washes off [18:59] 07n [18:59] 12eventually 01[18:59] FOR JUST THAT REASON [18:59] 12;-) 01[18:59] DID HTAT HELP, NATASHA? [19:00] 07yes, it helped a lot. thank you very much!!! [19:00] YOU CAN MAKE A SWAP OF THE PROJECT JUST TO SEE IF THE PICOT YOUR USING ARE ALROGHT [19:00] 12and make sure it's something smooth so your thread doesn't catch on it when you pull it out of the picots 01[19:00] RIGHT STEPHANIE - AND IT SHOULD BE THE SAME WIDTH FOR A GOOD DISTANCE, TOO [19:01] 06you can just "eye" them as well 01[19:01] THAT WAY YOU CAN DO MULTIPLE PICOTS OVER IT WHEN USING IT HORIZONTALLY 01[19:01] RIGHT CYNTHIA, MANY EXPERIENCED TATTERS CAN JUST EYEBALL IT 01[19:01] AND AMAZINGLY WELL TOO [19:01] 06I've tried a coffee stirrer and it workd well [19:01] 12I think eyeballing is fine unless you're entering competition [19:01] TRUE nANCY 01[19:01] BUT SOME NEWER TATTERS (AND SOME, OF US THAT ARE ENDLESSLY ANAL) LIKE THE COMFORT OF KNOWING THE PICOTS ARE THE SAME [19:02] 12it depends....some of us are better at eyeballing than others. [19:02] 07mine are all different right now, no matter how hard I try to make them the same. that's why I need gauges :-) 01[19:02] (I'M IN THE "US" OF THAT STATEMENT :)) [19:02] 12I need a gauge [19:02] 06I have a butterfly pattern that you don't have to worry about [19:02] 06the size [19:02] THOSE ARE ALSO CALLED PERFECTIONST 01[19:02] THANKS KATIA, THAT SOUNDS KINDER :) 01[19:02] CAN YOU SHARE IT CYNTHIA? [19:03] 06yes [19:03] 12sometimes variety of sizes for picots look cool to me, especially if they are very close together 01[19:03] THAT REMINDS ME, IT'S TIME TO GET STEPHANIES CANDY CANE RENDITION UJP ON TEH WEBSITE - SORRY FOR THE DELAY STEPHANIE 01[19:03] THANKS CYNTHAI! [19:03] 06Ring of 7 ds, 7 p sep bty 2 ds, 7 ds close rings [19:03] 12oh...it's been such a wild 3 weeks I'd forgotten about it 01[19:03] THAT'S RIGHT NANCY - GRADUATED PICOTS CAN BE A WONDERFUL DESIGN ELEMENT [19:04] 06second ring 5 ds, 5 p sep by 2 ds, 5 ds close ring [19:04] 04c [19:04] 06third ring repeat second ring, fourth ring repeat first ring [19:04] 12went up to NC to take care of Mom and Dad, Dad had some health problems, I got sick and Mom ended up taking care of me, then mom got sick, sister had to drive an hour each way 3 days in a row to take care of ALL of us.... [19:04] BTW MIMI I DID REDO THE PAGE OF THE 4 RING BUTTERFLY TO REPRESENT MORE THE PATERN WITH THE PICTURE BUT I 01[19:04] NO JOINS BETWEEN THE RINGS, CYNTHIA [19:04] 06tie together and use ends for antennae [19:04] DID NT POST IT YET 01[19:04] OH THANK YOU KATIA [19:04] 07n [19:04] 12Thanks katia. That bugged me 01[19:05] THE TATTED BUTTERFLIES ON THAT PAGE ARE NICE BUT THE PATTERNS DON'T MATCH UP WELL [19:05] 06No I'll do a page and send it to you tomorrow Mimi and you can post it 01[19:05] IT'S BETTER TO HAVE OUR OWN [19:05] 3 VARIATION WITH DIFFERENT SIZE PICOT 01[19:05] YES PLEASE CYNTHIA WE'LL LINK THAT TOO 03[19:05] * CarolB-S (mntak99@simplySPACE-C142197C.adsl.hiwaay.net) has joined #tatchat [19:05] 07thank you Cynthia!!! 01[19:05] FOR THE NEWBIES THAT BUTTERFLY JUST DESCRIBED IS A GREAT PROJECT FOR LESSON 1 [19:05] 06I can send it to you with better directions as soon as I can. 01[19:06] MEANTIME, I NEED TO GO 01[19:06] THANKS EVERYONE FOR COMING [19:06] Thanks, Cynthia [19:06] YES GO EAT MIMI 01[19:06] HAVE A GREAT EVENING AND REST OF THE WEEK [19:06] 04Bye, mimi. Thanks. 01[19:06] HAPPY TATTING! [19:06] 12have a good dinner Mimi [19:06] 07Bye Mimi! Session Close: Thu Mar 06 19:06:32 2008