Session Start: Thu Feb 14 17:58:53 2008 Session Ident: #tatchat * Now talking in #tatchat * Topic is 'Welcome to TatChat!!!' * Set by _spawn on Mon Feb 11 20:17:42 let me go see 06Hi Mimi Good evening all Hello Mimi I just googled them. the look interestesting Hi Mimi reason I ask is mine went for a sail when I was taking it out and my dog ate it hello mimi I have teh pieces but ahh well your dog ate it....roflmao...is your dog ok? yes, she likes to chew things :) . she spit the plastic out but it was a gonner- dog is fine Back with the bobbin info- mine are Singer class 66 Hi Robert I got your email message - I'll read it over this weekend, thanks so much. ahh k thanks I just have a small bit that looks like phaff so I will email thanks Sherree your welcome * Tatter has joined #tatchat * Tatter755 has joined #tatchat 06 c mimi, I enjoyed your responses. Thank you. I'll get back to you on a couple issues later. * Tatter755 is now known as Joy mine are extra bobbins you can by for the boye shuttle come i think 4 in a pack * Tatter is now known as Katia 06Hi Katia hi Katia Hello Katia . Good evening everyone! Bienvenue Katia * Tatter has joined #tatchat Hello Joy how his everyone doing on this fine evening ? 06Hi Everyone. hello Katia! * Tatter962 has joined #tatchat 06HiJoy good and you? heloo joy Has everyone seen the homework page? http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/completedhomework.html * Tatter962 is now known as NancyCarol Anyone know Chris Hinton of "The Shuttle Shope"? Hey Nancy 06HiNancy Carol im doing good a little tired Hey Everybody!! 06Katia, hang in there you can get thru it yes, Mimi that you for you hard work. * Tatter746 has joined #tatchat yes saw the page 06. All I did was post some jpegs, y'all did all the work, and excellent work it is too hello Nancy 06I'm going to check it out now. I saw it this morning. wow everyone has done some great tatting I have one other pending jpg from Diana to put up, she did an excellent job on the heart just in time for Valentine's Day ty, was a lot of fun too I SO look forward to seeing you all in the classroom! me too * Tatter746 is now known as StitchingSharon 06Hi Sharon I have had a great time. Does anyone hear read the yahoo mailing list "Tatting"? There's a new TIAS starting on that list 05I am back. didn't find the bone ring but cut off the plastic tip of a key ring but it's not by Jane no. about the new TIAS? It's by Diane Saunders http://www.lovetatting.com/tiasday1.html Cool! 13hello everyone. Happy to join ya'll tonight It's not a blog so you can't post comments but if you subscribe to the email list you'd be able to 05I read yahooo group Tatting I may have to give it a try. Then you'll see the announcement. Hey Sharon 06I'll give it a try as well The first day has nothing new for the students here just a few rings and a split ring 06I just saw that in my inbox. I'm a little bit behind tonight. So I know you can make it that far :) 06that's ok we can use the practice reading patterns is nothing else 05the Tatting group I am in, is a yahoo group where a member posts whenever they are on their computer and it is read by everyone else I feel like a "real" tatter now that I don't cringe and scream when I see split rings 06Great Nancy . 06I know what you mean, Nancy. 06be right back I'm still nervous about the split chains though.... I am still a little behind have yet to do split rings as my fingers are split atm 05once we sign in, Mimi, I have a question about the round robin pattern 06I went through the books I have again, and there are so many more patterns that I "get" now! O Isn't that FUN, Joy? oops margaret did you received the reply of the RR you sent me? . * AKTATTER has joined #tatchat 13Same here. the patterns don't seem so difficult now that I have learned to break them into smaller steps. 05Joy, in the international beginners round robin, I mail to you. Neat!!! Hey Georgia! Hello Tatters! 06I saw that, Margaret. We'll have fun! Good evening Georgia 05hello aka Hello Georgia my goodness what a crowd Welcome Georgia, thanks for coming! 05no Katia 06Hi Georgia This group has been great about attendance hello am Iinterrupting? has class started yet? 13hello Georgia! glad to see you 06Hi, Georgia. We're still visiting with each other We were just about to sign in - how about it, let's sign in MIMI DILLMAN, ntrop at ix.netcom.com SNOHOMISH, WA USA NancyCarol Bhm Ala USA sonaseun at gmail.com athens ga Sherree Givens, Hesperia, Ca. sherree10 at yahoo.com Katia Vallée Sherbrooke QC Canada lady_elhasa at hotmail.com 13Sharon Fawns Hillsboro KY USA Georgia Seitz AKTATTER at aol.com Greenup Illinois USA . 06Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OKlahoma USS brasthatfit at yahoo.com 06Joy Walsh hobbit68 at aol.com Butler PA USA hello Georgia 05margaret I. Boos, London, Ontario, Canada, maggiep54 at sympatico.ca, shuttle ANY OTHER SIGN-INS? hello all! GEORGIA, THIS GROUP HAS DONE SO WELL hello Georgia WE CHALLENGED THEM TO LEARN, AND THEY ROSE TO THE CHALLENGE Robert Lee Foster docfoster7 at gmail.com Walnut Ridge, AR, USA Mimi I can surely believe that AND THEY CAME BACK EVERY WEEK TOO :) 05I am sending you a big hug, Georgia, why just today I visited the beginners homework site and I was so pleased to see Diana Klinke ladyhawke49 at comcast.net Indianapolis, IN . so many of the beginners have done so well and their work is coming along super 06When I scan mine it doesn't come out well and I'm trying to get a camera 06There is so much help on your site, Georgia. Thank you! TONIGHT OUR LESSON WILL BE SPLIT CHAINS AND ALSO A REQUEST THAT ALL JOIN THE MONDAY CLASSES Of course they are fortunate to have you and Katia as mentors, You two are experts! 06Definatey Thank you Georgia Thanks georgia great and very patient teachers here MIMI I DO HAVE AN WELL 2 ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE BEFORE WE START 06Hooray for Mimi and Katia YES PLEASE KATIA and katia and mimi! well as your tatting gets beter Cynthia you will want to get teh best scans possible to show off the lovely work you are doing here here to our teachers 06thank you kudos all around! hip hip hooray WELL BEFORE EVERYONE ASK MY BOY WILL BE OUT OF THE HOSPITAL NEXT TUESDAY * NancyCarol has quit IRC (Ping timeout) that is great news katia!! 06Good news! MORE TO CELEBRATE That is great news katia! 06Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and best wishes for a speedy recovery so glad to hear that katia, i think about you and your son a lot * Tatter has quit IRC (Ping timeout) great Katia Good to hear KAtia Congrats AND EVERYONE WHO CAME TONIGHT WILL RECEIVE A SPLIT CHAIN PATERN BY MAIL THAT I CREATED JUST FOR THIS CLASS Tell Pierre Maxime that we are still thinking of him. 05oh thank you oohhhh how lovely! 06Awesome and thank you THANK YOU KATIA1 06Thank you! Thank you katia woo hoo, thanks katia ITS CALLED SPLIT CHAIN FAN katia does teh class know that your boys are budding tatters, too? 05is winkerbill/stephanie not here tonight? I do not see her. she is gone this week i belive she is out of town and away from the computer I DONT THINK I MENTIONED THAT ALL MY BIYS TAT ooh can't wait to see and thank you Katia OUPS BOYS 06 Awesome they are super yous 06Very cook, Katia. I learned from my dad. * Tatter has joined #tatchat 05that is wonderful, Katia. My first two teachers were men 06Oops - cool 06Boys that should have been * Tatter is now known as NancyCarol Got dropped? 06wb . 06type in more often i hate it when that happens 06we all do me too ,just last week we all got locked out of the class! yep WE ARE MISSING STEPHANIE THIS EVENING There are a few good men! u go bob 04AKA is there someone named _SPAWN that is necessary in the room to keep it running. Haven't seen them before Maybe Steph has a hot Valaentine date oh yes, let me introduce you 06definately we have a few good men who TAT is spawn a bot if you see the name spawn or ron in the class that means that the webmaster is present or monitoring the class ahh Ron's the one with the key to classroom. recently we had trouble with the door to the classroom locking up WE BETTER BEHAVE TONIGHT THEN ;) We need to be VERY nice to Mr. Spawn so he comes and stays with us to make sure all is well 06I appreciate all his work thanks ron/spawn ron is from simplyspace.com oh well in that case hello spawn 06Hi ron/spawn. Thanks! he donates the use of this international classroom to the online tatting class 04thank you SPAWN Hey Ron! his server also supports my website www.georgiaseitz thank you Ron/spawn . He is a nice guy, I had the chance to meet him one visit to Houston 06Double THANK you Spawn that is awesome you do so much for all of us Too bad he doesn't tat :) But we like him anyway Oo. Georgia I didn't know who kept your amazing site going 04are you an encourage of needlearts, SPAWN? lol yes he's ok evenif he does not tat! 04encourager . he's usually lurking and not actively participating in class ANYTHING ELSE KATIA? He's kind of quiet tonight 06If he sits in on this class, he could learn ;) right you are joy! no that was my anouncement ... now i can get back on tattig full time and sleeping more ;) THAT'S VERY WELCOME I'M SURE 04Mimi, I found a key ring which I will use to try and tat around during class 06c FIRST THING, LET'S SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS REMAINING FROM LESSON 4 AND EARLIER GOOD IDEA MARGARET am I still here? MARGARET DID KATIA'S EMAIL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE RR? 04I had one question about the round robin pattern GO AHEAD i think so robert yes you are robert;0 i c u robert it's unanimous you are still her 06. 04it said 6-2-2/6 but when you do the mock picot, in that order, it is then third and not in the middle like in the picture SHE DID NT RECIEVED THE MAIL... IT SEAM IVE BEEN HAVING TROUBLE SENDING AND RECEIVING MAILS 04I didn't get the reply from Kaita MARGARET IS REFERRING TO http://www.georgiaseitz.com/roundrobin/newbiesroundrobin.html FOR THOSE OF YOU FOLLOWING THERE IS A TYPO IN THE PATTERN MARGARET . DIDN'T YOU MENTION IT ROBERT AND JOY? oops sorry :( Thank you for seeing me. ur welcome:-* I WISH I COULD REMEMBER, MAY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE LOG 06I think robert did. 04I think that was a different pattern. This was lesson 3 EXACTLY CORRECT MARGARET The typo I remember was the split ring flower 06c I mentioned one on bella on-line's flower BEGINNER'S ROUND ROBIN, RIGHT 04it was the split ring followed by a mock picot and then rings off chains OH THAT'S RIGHT ROBERT, NOT THIS ONE I do not remember ont his pattern. BUT LET'S READ AGAIN 04I am opening that screen I THINK MARGARET HAS A GOOD POINT, BUT I'M A LITTLE BIT TIRED TONIGHT THIS PATTERN HAS BEEN MADE BY A LOT OF TATTERS OPTION B SAYS 06Some of us may have figured out the way to change it and didn't think anything more about it "Split Ring SH1 6 - 2 - 2 / 6 close ring. Make mock picot to climb out into the next round." 04the picture shows the optional mock picot in the middle . SO IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE MARGARET IS CORRECT - THE DIAGRAM IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND CHANGE THE TERM TO SAY 06That's what I'm thinking, Cynthia. Split Ring SH1 6 - 2 / 2 - 6 close ring. Make mock picot to climb out into the next round. DO YOU AGREE GEORGIA I DO AGREE MIMI Option B split ring What I did was 6-2-/6-2 or something like that I think that I did that without thinking tha AND ROBERT, DID YOU WRITE TO BELLA ONLINE TO TELL HTEM ABOUT THE TYPO IN THEIR PATTERN? yes I just reviewd the pattern not yet, but it is on the list. EXACTLY ROBERT AND CYNTHIA, WE READ THE DIAGRAM NOT THE PATTERN :) it has been posted so many years and I never noticed that error, sorry but as soon I as I get back fromt he Winter Lace Conference next week I will HEY ME TOO GEORGIA, AND HOW MANY CLASSES HAVE I BROUGHT THIS PATTERN TO AND NEVER A PEEP? HEE HEE correct that page. 04I am not good at pictures, but that pattern has helped my picture-reading . THAT WILL BE GREAT GEORGIA, ANY TIME. ALL OF US NEED TO HELPTHE OTHERS WITH PROOFREADING 06c 06. 06the more eyes the better :-X so if the teachers will excuse me, I leave on the trip in 8 hours 04glad I could be of assistance. I am feeling blue tonight AFTER THE WORK LAUREN SNYDER AND I DID ON AN OLD MONA HAHN PATTERN, I CAN TELL YOU JUST HOW MANY TYPOS CAN BE FOUND IN ONE PATTERN :) so I say good night to you all 06bye and safe tryp Have a safe trip and congratulation on your hard work THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING GEORGIA NIte Georgia nn THANKS FOR COMING GEOGIA AND HAVE A NICE TRIP 04enjoy the lace conference, Georgia 06Thanks for stopping in, Georgia. Safe trip! I'll be looking forward to see you all in the regular class soon thanks a lot thanks again georgia Not this MOnday though i'll be there good night and happy tatting all :) NIGHTERS * AKTATTER has left #tatchat 13Have a safe trip Georgia. OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM OLD LESSONS? 06None from me. 06not here OK here 04yes. in the round robin again what do the rings off chains look like? . 13not at the moment none from me no 04of course, I didn't finish the lock join because I noticed the error ?LOOK LIKE THE RING OFF CHAIN SHOULD LOOK LIKE THE RING ARE OVER THE CHAIN DO YOU MEAN AFTER YOUR LOCK JOIN? YOU MAKE A PORTION OF THE CHAIN, DROP SHUTTLE 1, PICK UP SHUTTLE 2 AND MAKE A RING WITH ITS BASE AT THE TOP FO THE LAST DS OF THE CHAIN, . 04mine are flat. but it could be because I haven't done the lock join yet no questions here 06. AFTER CLOSING THE RING, PUT SHUTTLE 2 BACK OVER YOUR LEFT HAND IN CHAIN-MAKING POSITION AND PICK UP SHUTTLE 1 FOR ANOTHER HCAIN SECTION 04I got that part 06c yep I'M AFRAID I'M REALLY TIRED AND NOT PICKING UP... WHAT WENT FLAT? . IN THE MAIL YOU SENT ME MARGARET THE RING OFF CHIN WERE AT THE RIGHT PLACE OUPS CHAIN I want to see a ring off your chin GOATEE RING? :) that i wanna see hee hee 06:) 06lol hehe SEE MIMI YOUR NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO IS TIRED ;) tired here too YOU HAVE MORE HOURS ON ME, I'M JUST SILLY WITH IT TOO DID WE LOSE MARGARET? HMMM IM NOT SURE ..... MARGARET? 04no I was making the lock join oh phew lol 04maybe I am not understanding the term rings off chains THESE ARE THE LITTLE RINGS THAT GO AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE MOTIF . 04am I correct to think the rings are to be at right angles to the chains? 06. THAT'S CORRECT, THOSE ARE THE ONES 04but mine are flat YOU USE THE 2ND SHUTTLE TO MAKE THEM (DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE THAT FLIPS THE DS'S OF THE CHAIN) We can't snooze in the class. Mimi and Katia will call on us. KATIA, DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHE MEANS FROM THE SCAN? 06yes they are parallel to the chain not crosswise 04I did use two different shuttles -- one for the chains and one for the rings IN THE SAME PLANE? YES THIS IS A 2-DIMENSIONAL PIECE THEY ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE SHOULD LAY FLAT WITHOUT IRONING :) 13I was so pleased with myself when I got the hang of doing rings off chains. GOOD JOB SHARON YOU SHOULD BE 06. 04I misunderstood. I thought it was 3-dimensional and they stood up like soldiers at attention on the parade ground 06Margaret will get it I'm sure I think it may be a "confusing" bords . 06oops words THANKS CYNTHIA FOR YOUR HELP TO GET ME TO SEE IT MARGARET'S WAY MARGARET HAVE YOU TOOK A LOOK AT THE HOMEWORK PAGE? Ok, I just e-mailed the correction to bella on-line. Margaret - Flat is good I MUST BE TALKING TEXAN AGAIN NOT CANADIAN :) 13Does anyone have any hints for wrapping the fingers to do a chain> THANKS ROBERT, BEVERLY WILL REALLY APPRECIATE IT OH SHARON, WHAT A TOUGHIE DO YOU WRAP KATIA 06I double wrap my pinkie 13I seem to loosen up before I get my chain finished. I've got a new way that works better for me. BEING SELF TAUGHT, I DEVELOPED A WEIRD WAY 13Do tell 06what Nancy I can't remember where I saw the description if i get it wrapped just right it will slip when i need it to cool LOL MIMI NOT ME BUT MY OLDES DO I ACTUALLY HOLD THE THREAD BETWEEN MY PINKY AND MY PALM 06I wrap my pinkie twice, then come over my ring finger, hold the pinch with my middle finger and extend my pointer. MAYBE IT'S 4TH FINGER AND PALM ANYWAY, THAT WAY I CAN FEED THREAD THROUGH WITHOUT HAVING TO UNWRAP cramps up my hand that way mimi AND I CAN KEEP GOOD TENSION EXACTLY SONA what ever works i guess . 04when I am using a ball, I wrap the thread coming off the ball over my pinky and then around it so it is continuous when I need more thread over the back of my left hand I EXPECT ANY DAY NOW MY HANDS WILL START TO PROTEST AND I'LL HAVE TO LEARN THE WRAP :) 06it takes patience and practice to get it that's why I don't like to do chains 06Basically, just tie your hand in a knot. :) Let me see if I can describe.OK It comes behind third finger to front of pinky GOOD IDEA, MARGARET, THANKS MARGARET I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU TO GO SEE THE HOMEWORK PAGE , ROBERT DID THAT PATERN AND ITS POSTED THERE SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY SEE IT FINISH and then from back to front around pink again. tie your hand in a knot....ok i think i did already which pattern? 04is it looking like a star? NICE NANCY THANKS FOR THE TIP ITS THE ONE ONE THE LEFT FROM THE HEART . It is much easier to get more thread as I need 06c 04Mimi, is there a reason my heart was not posted? THA IS THE RR YOUR DOING OOPS I MUST HAVE MISSED ONE LET ME CHECK 06. 04I sent it twice AYE LACK OF TIME MARGARET MIMI IS DOING DOUBLE SHIFT FOR THIS CLASS SINCE IM NOT AT HOME ALOT I GOT IT I'LL GET IT IN THERE MEANTIME DID EVERYONE GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT LESSON 5? http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/lesson5.html yes 06It was a good one. Thanks. yes 04my one section of the round robin looks right just starts in the wrong place 06yes but didn't get to try it * Robert-S has quit IRC (Quit: ) * Robert-S has joined #tatchat 06wb robert 13Who/where are we supposed to send our scans of homework? SORRY IT WASSO LATE 06I absolutely LOVED the Happy Christmas Tatters Pattern. THAT WAS FAST ROBERT ;)WB AND I PROBABLY HAD TOO MANY PATTERNS BUT SPLIT RINGS ARE TOUGH AND REQUIRE PRACTICE 04I have it on another screen and I perused it. 06Does anyone know where I can get the book mentioned (Tatting over Rings)? sorry for the difficulties. 06I tried Ebay and Handy Hands. AND IW ANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD PLENTY TO CHOOSE FROM TO MAKE SURE YOU WANTED TO it works fine, then it slows down, then it stops! arg IT'S BEEN OUT OF PRINT AWHILE. DO YOU BELONG TO ANY OF THE ON-LINE TATTING LISTS OR E-TATTERS? 06I am in the yahoo group. MAYBE IF YOU POST "WANTED" SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE A COPY - OR BETTER YET KNOW SADIE AND SEE IF SHE'LL PRINT MORE? Mimi I love having lots of extra patterns to try later Cynthia, where are we in the lesson? can someone post info on tating lists and e-tatters 06Thanks, Mimi. I'll give it a try. 06figuring out if we got to lesson 5 ok thanks 06and did we try it... 04yahoo groups have Tatting and Here-Be-Tatters and etatters is a forum i'll check that out thanks . etatters is now that ning group. 06we are so easily side tracked some nights sorry 04I think the forum address is http://etatters.rning.com sort of like facebook for tatters no problem, I always enjoy the ride. 06so do I. I always learn something BACK TO THE LESSON :) DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SPLIT CHAINS? 04there are threads and you can post underneath another person and read it down the page continuously. Kersti has done a good job of organizing it 06no but mine need work Nothing a few weeks practice won't fix I moved up to a size 10 thread so I could see and then it kinda clicked. DID ANYONE HAD ANY TROUBLE WITH SPLIT CHAIN ? 06definately practice 06I didn't think I would like them, but I was wrong. GREAT! I haven't tired it on smaller thread yet but I am confindent. I WISH MARIE HAD COME UP WITH HER METHOD TO TEACH THEM EARLIER mine need much work 06The only thing I really don't like (yet) is beads on a shuttle. IT'S SO EASY TO DO HER WAY I need lots of practice THE OTHER WAYS I TRIED AT FIRST WERE MORE LABORIOUS I am still working on that lesson due to split fingers I do understand what is supposed to happen, I just have trouble gauging how big a space to leave AND FINALLY BEV DILLON SHOWED ME SOMETHING SIMIILAR IT CLICKED FOR ME THE PATERN YOU WILL GET BY EMAIL WILL HAVE YOU DO 10 SPLIT CHAIN SO YOULL BE ABLE TO PRATICE IT ALOT I STILL HAVE TO LOOK BACK ABOUT WHETHER I START IN THE FRONT OR THE BACK SOMETIMES BUT THAT'S OK but I hope to have it completed this weekend I have a space issue as well but I figured if I was a ds or tow off oh well. GAUGING THE THREAD SPACE IS T O U G H 06Covering a ring gives good practice in the stitch sequence. 06maybe I will get better quicker if I have the lesson to goad me on IT'S ANOTHER THING THAT TAKES PRACTICE I missed something. Katia, are you going to email us a pattern? I TRY TO ARRANGE IT SO THAT MY SPLIT CHAIN SECTIONS ARE THE SHORTEST POSSIBLE YES NANCY BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE FOUND WORKS FOR ME IS TO LEAVE A THREAD SPACE OF ABOUT 3 DS FOR A SPLIT CHAIN OF 5 DS SO ABOUT 60%?? +/- YOU CAN ALMOST ALWAYS JAM IN ANOTHER DS ON A SPLIT CHAIN Oh, OK. BUT YOU CAN'T GET RID OF SLACKNESS IN THE CORE 06depends on how tight or loose you tat . COULD BE, CYNTHIA I'M A TIGHT (UP-TIGHT??) TATTER SO I PULL HARD FOR TENSIONING THAT MEANS I COULD BE MAKING THE CORE THREAD STRETCH A LITTLE PLUS, ONCE YOU'VE DONE MORE LOCK JOINS YOU'LL FIND THAT SOMETIMES THE THREAD NEXT TO THE JOIN GETS LONGER 06So do I but when I'm learning I tend to be easier and pull less 06. I'd probably need an expert to tell me if I'm loosy goosy or tight IF I RECALL NANCY A LITTLE LOOSE, BUT YOU'VE HAD LOTS OF PRACTICE SINCE SEPT I'D HAVE TO SEE A SCAN . . 06c I'm WAAAY behind on sending scans. 04Mimi, when I was just looking at the split chain description from Georgia's page, line 4 is missing except for the word scan F ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PAGE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/gssplitchain.html ? 06I noticed that too, Margaret, but I just went from the diagrams/photos OR ABOUT A TYPO I DID ON LESSON 5? . 06It refers to the pictures--I think 06There are a bunch of pictures at the bottom with letters . 04it is in the page that came up when I clicked on the link for Georgia's split chain in lesson 5 Looks like this class should be proof readers for folks out there... 04also the third last paragraph may be missing some words too . OH! I SEE NOW. SOMETHING IS WRONG IWTH HER "#4" 04it is the page from Georgia, not you, Mimi . * Robert-S has quit IRC (Quit: ) * Robert-S has joined #tatchat AGAIN SAVED BY THE DIAGRAMS :) back again You can flip in and out faster than anyone I ever saw I'LL LET HER KNOW WHEN I REMIND HER ABOUT THE LITTLE TYPO IN THE NEWBIES ROUND ROBIN 06wb robert 04you see mimi I am a reader of words, not pictures . 06c thnaks YOU CERTAINLY ARE! IT TAKES ALL TYPES OK BACK TO THE SPLIT CHAIN AND ITS FUNCTION IN THE PATTERN DID ANYONE REVISIT THE LITTLE SQUARE MOTIF FROM ANNA VALEIRE I finished mine. no YES YOU DID ! 04and Mimi, ask Georgia about the second last paragraph. Mine starts with the round without a capital letter no WE LEFT THAT ONE AS A CLIFFHANGER 06I didn't. I actually closed it after lesson 4. Yay Robert! http://picasaweb.google.com/docfoster7/Tatting/photo#5165567928328634642 MARGARET, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WRITING TO HER DIRECTLY? SHE MIGHT HIRE YOU AS A PROOFREADER (SERIOUSLY) 06I saw it Robert - looks great! (all of your work does) http://www.georgiaseitz.com/av3/valeiresquare.html IS THE PATTERN beautiful robert HE DID A GREAT JOB nice job Robert * Joy has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) THE MOTIF ITSELF HAS 3 ROUNDS comeback joy THE INNER ONE OF THE RINGS THE MIDDLE ONE OF RINGS AND CHAINS * Tatter has joined #tatchat 04I am a modelstitcher and Kersti asked me to tat patterns for pictures to be taken to be published so more needlework-related work would be a pleasure. I have met Georgia (she gives great hugs) and am comfortable with her wow Robert that's great * Tatter is now known as Joy AND THE LAST ONE WITH RINGS/CHAINS AND CLOVERLEAFS WB JOY 06ty . YOU NOW HAVE THE KNOW-HOW TO DO THIS ONE WITHOUT STOPPING TO TIE AND CUT Are there more rounds to this pattern elsewhere? (IF YOUR SHUTTEL OR NEEDLE HOLDS ENOUGH) THIS IS IT ROBERT, BUT YOU CAN ADD MORE IF YOU LIKE 04I have been trying to do cloverleafs for weeks in my pineapple pattern 06That's my problem with the climbing out - I end up with ends anyway because I run out of thread. THE TRANSITION FROM THE INSIDE TOT HE MIDDLE ROUND IS SPLIT RING - MOCK PICOT- SPLIT RING EASY ok, any sugestions for helping me keep it square. That is what i like about it. THE NEXT TRANSITION, THOUGH, WILL REQUIRE A SPLIT CHAIN - MOCK PICOT- SPLIT RING CLIMB OUT 06am I stlill here? I thought about tatting four of them together c u cynthia HMMM TOUGH DESIGN QUESTION ROBERT can you pin and block it? BLOCKING DOES SOME WORK FOR YOU SONA BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ADD MORE "BULK" TO GET HTE CORNERS TO LIE FLAT FOR THIS ONE, I'D THINK ABOUT MODIFYING ROUND 3 04i am going to say good night to everyone. did everyone else have a nice Valentine's Day? 06. THANKS FOR COMING MARGARET. YOU'VE DONE SO WELL THIS SERIES!! AND YOUR HOMEWORK IS UP, HAVE A PEEK . yes i did so far so good, happy valentine to you Pretty good, hope you did as well and Good Night Margaret 06Happy Valentine's day Margaret, Peace and see you next time ANYWAY, I'D THINK ABOUT MAKING THE CLOVERLEAF BE A 4-RING ITEM good night Margaret. 06Night, Margaret. WITH THE 4TH RING STICKING OUT AT THE CORNER WITH A FEW PICOTS ON NIGHT MARGARET THEN YOU COULD ATTACH YOUR "BULK" TO THOSE EXTRA PICOTS ON THAT OUTER RING CONFUSING? I SHOULD MAYBE HAVE SAID OUTWARD FACING RING 06yes which pattern? IT WOULD BE A BIG ON ELIKE THE MIDDLE RING OF THE CLOVERLEAF BUT GOING OUT OPPOSITE Lovely job on the heart Margaret I'M TALKING ABOUT MODIFYING http://www.georgiaseitz.com/av3/valeiresquare.html I think that I understand. TO ALLOW FOR A 4TH ROUND THAT PRESERVES THE SQUARE SHAPING 04Mimi, it must be my computer. I still don't see my heart on the homework page SQUARE IS KIND OF RARE IN TATTED DOILIES REFRESH (F5 FOR INTERNET EXPLORER) 06yes but they can be fun even tho a challenge 04Mimi, it is there now. thanks and I am signing off very nice heart Margaret! I really like the squarish shapes 04thank you Robert I am all about squares! * Margaret has left #tatchat good job Margaret OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT COVERING RINGS? no That works fine no 06I can do it 06No questions from me. So I could copnvert the cloverleaf to a medaillion of sorts as part of a fourth round? I will try to think on that. YOU COULD DO THAT TOO ROBERT 06I often write down the questions to ask and then figure it out before class 06I've seen a couple square-ish patterns made with little square medallions. . ISN'T THIS PRETTY? NOT SQUARE :) I'd like to see some more squares http://tatsaway.blogspot.com/2007/09/wrapping-plastic-ring-with-double.html JON DOES SOME EXCELLENT WORK WITH RINGS (AND ALL OTHER TATTING TOO) I REALLY NEED TO ASK HER PERMISSION TO LINK TO THIS LESSON Oh, yes, gorgeous I THINK IT'S VERY INTERESTING THAT SHE'S DEVELOPED A METHOD TO ATTACH TO TATTING INSIDE THE RING WHILE COVERING IT TOO * Robert-S has quit IRC (Quit: ) * Robert-S has joined #tatchat back agin 06Ooo - really pretty! I NEED TO STOP ADDING LINKS, I LOSE MORE STUDENTS THAT WAY :))) yer makin me dizzy robert sorry That is so pretty trust me which link are we looking at http://tatsaway.blogspot.com/2007/09/wrapping-plastic-ring-with-double.html thank you 06it is nice ACTUALLY, THIS SNOWFLAKE IS A NICE TRANSITION TO THE NEXT PART OF THE LESSON : BEADS (THAT IS IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS) ohhh that IS nice nice flake. ANY QUESTION FOR NEEDLE ? 06. TRUE, MY WRITE UP WAS KIND OF "SHUTTLE-CENTRIC" 06no I've been doing each of the items in both shuttle and needle--good practice I GOT IN A LITTLE NEEDLE THOUGH! Good job Cynthia 06Double duty, Cynthia! i totally don't understand needle, maybe some other time AMBI-TAT-STROUS 06lol lol DID YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS IN NEEDLE TAT 2 SONA? 06thanks but I need to learn needle LOL :) needle free here. 06Me too, Robert. yes but right now i'm trying to understand shuttle, should i be doing both at the same time NICE CYNTHIA 06I bought some, but they don't seem to interest me yet. I'm challenged enough with the new techniques using the shuttle. OH, OK, DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE A QUESTION IF YOU HAD ONE 13I'll stick to my shuttles. I'd like to learn needle somewhere down the road . 06not necessary to do both but I like to so I get the needle practice DID ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ADDING BEADS TO THEIR TATTING? no I do Not yet I understand the basics. practice is all. 06I shuttled for 20 years then bad arthritis makes twisting wrist hard some days but I still want to tat i think i have that down except how to deal with the bulk of a large number of beads is still a trial is there a better shuttle to get with a pattern that requires a lot of beads? In one of your e-mail you mentioned using beads close to the size of thread. and that helped alot. 06I just started adding beads Those beads just misbehave and slide around THERE'S A LADY WHO USES MORE BEADS THAN THREAD I THINK: ARTIST NINA LIBIN 06Nancy so do mine is there a better shuttle to get with a pattern that requires a lot of beads? HAVE YOU SEEN HER WROK? http://www.beanile.com I use a Tatsy shuttle for bead work 13Beads close to size of thread? i've been wrapping them around the shuttle to keep them from catching on my work NINA USES SHUTTLES WITH - GASP - OPEN ENDS!! 06I have a book of hers in my stash. THEY ARE POST SHUTTELS AND THE TIPS DON'T MEET 06It's a little bit intimidating. I just bought one of her book tonight THAT WAY SHE CAN WIND/UNWIND TO GET TO THE BEADS QUICKLY Yeah the Tatsy holds lots but it seems so large and awkware 13Ihave a couple of those tatsy chuttles, feel so huge in my hands LUCKILY SHE'S A LITTLE LADY 06that would be interesting--open ended shuttle . SO IF SHE DROPS IT, IT DOESN'T ROLL FAR :) 06:0 ha ANOTHER IDEA FOR EASY ROLL/UNROLL TO GET AT BEADS IS A FLAT SHUTTLE are the flat shuttles better> yeah i've been looking at some of the larger shuttles LIKE THE SO-CALLED "LADY HOARE SHUTTLE" 13Flat shuttle? i'd love to make one someday GEORGIA SELLS SOME YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN FLAT SHUTTLE TO TRY 13Don't have one of those yet. Sharon, I used some large beads on my fiorst project. QUILTER'S TEMPLATE MATERIAL (STIFF) I just bought some on ebay the maker was Chris Hinton OR CARDBOARD CUT TO SHAPE anyone ever hear of him? OHHHHH CHRIS HINTON NICE 06out of an old dishwashing soap bottle I used seed beads ont he second and they were much easier to manage. from the Shuttle SHop? why is hhis webpage not his any longer? SOAP BOTTLE WORKS TOO - OLD CREDIT CARD TOO I wondered if you know if some folks just use those floss bobbins with a little trimmed off the edges I HTINK HE'S TRYING TO SELL HIS BUSINESS my first shuttle was a bread wrapper closer thingy THAT WORKS TOO NANCY 06. oh I love these shuttles of his I bought off ebay ACTUALLY WITH PRACTICE THOSE TATSY'S WORK JUST FINE they have a little area to put a photo or a piece of tat work THAT'S WHAT I USE WHEN I BEAD TAT (TATSY) OR ANOTHER LARGE DIAMONDWOOD SHUTTLE I GOT FROM LACIS . I HAVE SHORT LITTLE FINGERS 06they do feel funny at first if you're used to a smaller one SO I HAD TO WORK HARD TO LEARN TO PASS IT COMFORTABLY BUT NOW I'M PASSABLE :)) THEY HOLD TONS OF BEADS AND THREAD, AND I'M TOO LAZY TO STOP AND WIND MORE yes I bought the huge Tasty red and blue in a clearnece bucket at walmart but they are intimidating I'll have to give that a try i can only wrap so many beads around my boye 06I use the middle anf thumb to pinch and the index to tension REMEMBER DIANA, YOU'RE THE BOSS, SIZE DOESN'T MATTER :) I made some out of card stock glued together but they are not lasting very long. THAT'S TRUE ROBERT THEY TEND TO BEND 06you are smarter than the thread, shuttle,and beads i keep telling myself that AT SOME POINT YOU'LL WANT ONE MADE OF WOOD OR OTHER MATERIAL true but still :) how do you thread 500 beads on ? MOTHER OF PEARL???? ABALAONE ??? (WHY THINK SMALL) 06one at a time 06. 06LOL :) am I lost again? THAT'S RIGHT CYNTHIA, BREAK IT DOWN 500 sheesh:P OK, ANY MORE BEAD QUESTIONS? I read that Nina's patterns can use 500 beads thats a lot to thread on any way to make it easier? no 06no no questions on beads for me. TATSY DIANA AND SPREADING THEM OUT ON THE THREAD AS YOU WIND im good yes I keep asking but maybe my text is not showing up so... 06no questions here * Robert-S has quit IRC (Quit: ) * Robert-S has joined #tatchat I do have one other very general question WHAT'S THAT NANCY hello again 06you can add the beads to a picot without having them on the thread ok YES Do most of y'all completely fill both shuttles as a routine practice? I always wonder how to guess if I need that much. CYNTHIA THERE WAS AN EXCELLENT EXPLANATION OF JUST THAT IN A LESSON IN THE ON LINE CALSS EARLIER THIS MONTH LOOK FOR LINDA'S PATTERN, THE TIARA I am learning to guage how much thread that i might need but I am still not good at it. I don't want to waste thread but I do hate stopping, starting, hiding ends 06if the pattern indicates how much then that much otherwise I tend to fill both NANCY, I USUALLY JUST USE A FULL SHUTTLE I CAN USE THE THREAD ENDS LEFT ONT HE SHUTTLE FOR BUTTERFLIES OR WHATEVER 06. OK. That's what I've been doing. Just wondered 06I know there is a pattern and lesson from earlier but I couldn't remember which class i just use what's left on my shuttle to practice stuff 06beginner or advanced 06good idea Sona . Thanks. I DO need lots of practice BASICALLY WHAT LINDA DOES IS RE-JOIN HER RING OR CHAIN TO A PICOT MADE EARLIER, FIRST PASSING THE PICOT THROUGH THE BEAD BEFORE JOINING TERRY THE TATTER DOES THIS TOO SHE HATES PRE-STRINGING ahh thats what I meant - any way to pre string easier> but for Benile or Ankars style you have to prestring the beads tiny seed beads I mean NOT NECESSARILY, TERRY USES A TEENY HOOK 06Well, everyone, I hate to do this, but it looks like I'm going to have to hop off here. Family needs me. Can you purchase prestrung beads anywhere? 06Georgia had a gadget that could string them fast but I don't remember what it was as I couldn 't afford it Good-night Joy 06I think it was Georgia anyway was it a wooden looking bowl thing> 06yes 06Thank you, thank you, all. I'm really going to miss this little group. And I've learned a lot. ok cool then off to Michaels who had them IT'S A BEAD SPINNER me too joy 06Come back when you can yes thats what it is called yep YES PLEASE ALL ARE WELCOME TO REPEAT ANY CLASSES bead spinner. sounds neat we will meet on mondays right MAIN CLASS MEETS MOST MONDAYS ok * Robert-S has quit IRC (Ping timeout) what time 06I'll check the log later. Night! and Katia thank you in advance for the fan pattern, I can't wait to see it are we ready for the big class? WATCH GEORGIA'S LESSON PAGE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/2008index.html * Joy has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06good thing we can keep coming back. I learn something new from each OH YES YOU ARE READDY POSSIBLY READIER THAN MOST * Tatter has joined #tatchat Until MImi and Katia tell me to get lost, I'll be a perpetual student * Tatter is now known as Robert 06lots of us will ok I trust you yes i will probably take this same class again too, i bet you get even more out of it a second time ok I am trying the jave route MEANTIME ANY QUEICK QUESTIONS ABOUT BLOCKING OR FOLLOWING GEORGIA'S CLASS? 13I've been coming to both classes when my work schedule permits. I'velearnbed a lot. no questions just need to figure out my computers problem I may take it a 2nd time - but can I still come to Monday classes? Robt the what route? 06lots of us are doing it that way YES YOU MAY, ALL WELCOME MONDAY AND THURSDAY 13I'll continue on, I'm sure there is more to be learned a second time through. the jave applet route instead of mirc so thursday too? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO ASK KATIA ABOUT 06every time I take it I learn something new OH, yes I do the java. It seems to work most of the time WHEN HER SCHEDULE WILL ALLOW FOR A NEW SET OF LESSONS great thank you, and Katia and Mimi, thank you for you time in all I have learned so far, you guys are great 13Thanks for the tips on wrapping. I tried 2 wraps around pinkie and then 2 on ring finger -- really helped with my tension. GREAT SHARON mimi and latia you have been great. would it be possible to start next lesson on the 28 instead of next week? 06you're welcome I'M READY FOR A SHORT BREAK KATIA SO 28TH WORKS I'm fine with any day gosh, i'm really thick in the head tonite, this lesson starts again next week? THANKS! You two deserve a break! And we need to practice I HAVE TO MISS THE WEEK OF EASTER since max is coming home mext week i would like it alot to make sure we his adapting well at hom for the first week I'll try to peek in. I am going to giv ethe mondays a whirl god maybe I can catch up and my hands will heal by then WE CAN TAKE 2 WEEKS IF YOU NEED KATIA, 06You both need a break--too much cogoing on at home 06make that going on at home to teach too I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN BE THERE WHEN I'M GONE THAT WEEK AND ALSO FOR SPOKANE WEEK IN APRIL I agree w Cynthia 13who do we send the homework scans to? anyone get cracked hands in the winter and have anything they do to combat it? SORRY SHARON ntrop at ix.netcom.com OK TO BE HONEST mAX ASK ME IF YOU COULD WAIT UNTIL THE 28 SO HE CAN SIT IN BY MY SIDE FOR THE NEXT SESSION PLEASE INCLUDE APPROVAL TO PUT THEM ON THE HOMEWORK PAGE IF YOU AGREE TO SHARE WITH THE CLASS Try eucerene sp? for cracked hands 06yes--I use corona--goopy so be stingy I think I have robert, but worth trying again ty Corona>? ILL BE OK FOR THE REST OF THE LESSON MIMI. 13Thanks. I'll try to get some of my stuff scanned my next nights off. 06We're looking forward to having Max sit in and Corona beer? put it on real think before you go to bed. works great on my feet. Those are good. Also, use something like Dove soap when you wash hands GLAD TO HEAR MAX CAN COME, LET'S ADVERTISE THE 28TH ok so this class restarts the 28th? 28th of February or march? 06Corona not beer it is a thick salve that you can use on animals as well as people BTW HE ASK FOR HIS SHUHTTLE YESTERDAY TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO DO THEN PLAY PS2 GAMES so next class is the 28th? lol ok ty for the reply on that lol THE 28TH OF FEBUARY ok 06YEAH he is getting better!!!!!!!!!!!!! whew was gonna saok in beer.. ok That's encouraging sign I will look up that salve 06Might be fun but the corona salve works well--wash before tatting--I use it at night . 06brb I have something else as well 07. okI will check Walgreens and CVS for that OK THIS NIGHT SOUNND WIERD BUT HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE CREAN FARMER BUT ON THERE COW BEFORE THEY PLUG THEM TO GET THE MILK? OUPS NIGHT =MIGHT 07I have heard that a product called "Bag Balm" works well. I'LL CHANGE THE WEBSITE TO THE NEW DATES Udder cream? yes yesh I have some - completly forgot about it IM NOT SURE HOW YOU CALL IT IN ENGLISH 07My grandmother swore by it. Bag Balm green tin yes WELL IT WORKS WONDERS 07Katia, I think that it is called Bag balm yep oh yeah bag balm rocks ok I even know where it is yikes I am getting forgetful lol 07yes, green tins. 06also deep nourishment cream from bath and body--I have breathe delight THERE'S A PARAFIN-BASED CREAM I USE - RECOMMENDED TO ME BY LARRY STEVENS IN SPOKANE I'LL GO GET IT We'll all have nice soft smooth hands by the 28th ok thanks - my fingers thank you too- hard to tat like this adn I was gald the heart wasd red... 07ok, It has been a great class and you are wonderful! I USED THAT FOR DIPPER RASHES AND ALSO ON M HANDS IN WINTERS if i can keep from cutting the heck out of myself...lol 07I am clling it a night. See y'all inthe Tatting world. breathe Delight I have seen that NIGHT ROBERT nite robert Night Robert and ty Nite nite all! 07Katia, I will continue to pray for Pierre. Night Carol 06kind of expensive but worth it IT'S CALLED OKEEFE'S WORKING HANDS CREME bye robert I'VE SEEN IT AT DRUGSTORES THANKS YOU .. IT DOES HELP NIGHT ROBERT SEE YOU SOON ahh diper stuff good idea KAtia thank you 07INDEED. i'm going nite nite too thanks everyone 07gnite * Robert has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) DH IS HOME I SHOULD SIGN OFF TOO 06bye robert ooh Okeefe's gonna try that too :) * NancyCarol has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) THANKS FOR COMING, ALL, THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BEST CLASSES OF STUDENTS EVER 06Peace everyone and see you the 28th bye Mimi thanks a lot GOOD SIZED CLASS AND EVERYONE WAS DOING HOMEWORK, ASKING INTELLIGENT QUESTIONS, AND CATCHING ON TOO Ty anf Night all and Thank you ladies for teaching such an excellent class Bye Cynthia * Diana-B has quit IRC (Quit: ) INDEED IT WAS AND MOST OF YOU GUYS WERE GREAT TO TEACH 06thanks Mimi and Katia and everyone you all help all of us MEANTIME I'LL GET THE LOG UP IN A LITTLE BIT SO YOU CAN ALL PICK OFF THE HAND CREAM RECOMMENDATIONS lol (BY THE WAY LARRY STEVENS IS A TATTER) 13Thanks Mimi and Matia. I've enjoyed my visits to the classroom and look forward to the next round of classes. see you next time * Sona has left #tatchat * StitchingSharon has left #tatchat 06Peace and see you SEE YOU NEXT SESSION GLAD TO HEAR MAX IS DOING BETTER KATIA NIGHT * Disconnected Session Close: Thu Feb 14 19:32:36 2008