Session Start: Thu Feb 08 17:46:43 2007 Session Ident: #tatchat * Now talking in #tatchat * Tatter974 has joined #tatchat Hello tatters Good evening how do you change your number to a name? oh good I'm not alone! Or morning as the case may be :) * Tatter097 has joined #tatchat YOur number is your "Nick" I am back I am ginette There's a box in the bottom right corner of the screen that says "Change nick to" and a white box below that Type your name in below "Change nick to" and press enter * Tatter097 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) * Tatter974 is now known as ginette * ginette is now known as Ginette 06I click and nothing happens hi i'm back got caught up reading the lesson 4, how is everyone? Welcome Ginette 06oh well Can't click, have to type and press enter Kind of strange but there you have it :) Yes So click in the white box below "change nick to" to get your cursor there, type and press Enter on your keyboard when done * Tatter308 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) * Tatter186 has joined #tatchat * Tatter186 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) * Tatter990 has joined #tatchat hello? hi mimi how are you * Tatter042 has joined #tatchat I'm fine Grace, did you get your coffee? * Tatter042 is now known as AnitaH hi ladies yes but its not working this morning, how can I change my code to a name? * Tatter990 is now known as Shar hi anita Are you using mIRC Grace? hi grace :) yes type "/nick yourname" without the quotes :) where? right there like you were talking to us that will change it for this session for a global fix, i'm not so sure. To change your mIRC name forever, go to Tools > Options and change your nick on that screen. Whew, that was easy :) * Tatter810 has joined #tatchat can't see a change? * ggm13 is now known as grace * Mimi is now known as MIMIMI got it! * MIMIMI is now known as Mimi Mimimimi too :) 06hehehe That's another reason for these Beginner Classes So everyone can get comfortable using the classroom Changing your nick is a big part of it Because it really helps the teacher if your name is next to your question Trying to remember who is who gets tough when everyone is Tatter#whatever makes it easier to keep track of who needs help with what 06Mimi, were we suppose to have printed out some kind of instructions 06or something for tonight? Printed or on screen The lesson for today is http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/lesson4.html but we missed some of http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/lesson3.html last time so we should review a bit from http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/lesson3.html 07Hello! I'm trying to get on! * Tatter468 has joined #tatchat Just beware when viewing the lesson on screen... you can sometimes click somewhere and goof up your classroom window :) 07Beverly Davis Silver City NM yup.... i am a great example of that lol Hi Bev, long time no see * Tatter468 is now known as Katia 07bj BJ were you able to type in the little box under "Change nick to" bonjour 07Our house has been felled by stomach flu hello everyone et bonsoir Ginette :) Lots of people here this session, that's great! 07yes to mimi's question 07bj Ok after typing your name there press Enter and it should become your nick 07bj/ if that doesn't work type what's between these quotes "/nick bj" 07"/nickbj" Space after k and before b if using mirc go to commands - then click on change nick and no quotes OK it's the top of the hour and we have 1 hour for our lesson. How about we get started by logging in first? I see some new names. MIMI DILLMAN, SNOHOMISH, WA ntrop@ix.netcom.com 07shoot /nickbj Katia Vallée Sherbrooke QC Canada lady_elhasa@hotmail.com anita hobden, london ontario, anital76@hotmail.com 07Beverly Davis, Silver City, NM beeloyal1@aol.com grace mazza, roma italy aussiesrus2@gmail.com 02Sherree Givens, Hesperia, CA. USA, sherree10@yahoo.com ginette Lepine fron trois Rivieres quebec Wow, deux Quebecoises! 06Sharrie Hanley Vermont, USA THANKS EVERYONE FOR COMING * Tatter810 is now known as bj WHEN TIME RAN OUT LAST TIME, WE WERE JUST TALKING A BIT ABOUT THREAD ENDS you did it :) GOOD JOB BJ! THAT'S WHAT'S IN http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/lesson3.html WE PRETTY MUCH SKIPPED "MTT" OR MAGIC THREAD TRICK 07I've been tatting 'over' the loose ends YOU'LL SEE THAT REFERRED TO FROM TIME TO TIME ON THE TATTING LISTS AND IN ONLINE CLASS LESSONS 02yes I have TATTING OVER TAILS IS GREAT FOR BEGINNING - BUT MTT IS ONE WAY TO TAKE CARE OF THE ENDS AT THE END im here to help Ginette if she need any translation Mimi yes I found out the get in the way, I can't seem to be able to tat over these loose threads MERCI KATIA MY FRENCH IS POOR my pleasure Mimi IF YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY TATTING OVER YOUR TAILS, YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE DIFFICULTY TATTING OVER THE MAGIC THREADS 08I never got 'round to buying the right sort of needle to sew them in No need for translation my husban helps BUT WHY NOT HAVE A LOOK LATER A THE LINKED INSTRUCTIONS AND SEE IF THEY HELP YOU UNDERSTAND TATTING OVER TAILS ANY NEEDLE WILL WORK BJ 02I can't read your yellow B J 07I've been gone, but have completed all the assignments. I need url to scan them to BALL-ENDED NEEDLES OR TAPESTRY NEEDLES ARE BEST TO H ELP YOU NOT SPLIT THE THREADS 02thanks 07thanks JUST EMAIL ME OR ANITA BJ AND ATTACH THE SCANS TO YOUR EMAIL ginete je suis ici pour t encourager et t aider au besoin 07ok, even i can do that - lol ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT DEALING WITH THREAD ENDS 02no WELL, THEN, LET'S PROGRESS TO LESSON 4 http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/lesson4.html BECAUSE - SPLIT RINGS ARE NOT ONLY PRETTY AS PART OF A DESIGN, BUT YOU CAN USE THEM TO HELP YOU CLIMB UP FROM ONE ROUND TO ANOTHER AND THAT WAY AVOID HAVING TO CUT AND TIE OFF THREADS - CREATING MORE THREAD ENDS HAVE ANY OF YOU MADE SPLIT RINGS YET? 06no 02does it work the same for needle tatting? SPLIT RINGS CAN FUNCTION THE SAME FOR NEEDLE TATTERS YES 07which pattern were they used in 02ok AND NEEDLE TATTERS WILL HAVE A VERY EASY TIME WITH THESE yes, but i used two different thread sizes and one side is of course smaller than the other THE SHUTTLE TATTERS STUMBLE WITH THEM CONGRATULATIONS GRACE! 02ok that s fine took a bit of logic thought working backwards http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/lmball.html IS A PATTERN WITH SPLIT RINGS but its fine now THE DIFFICULT PART FOR SHUTTLE TATTERS IS THAT AFTER DAYS AND DAYS (WEEKS? yEARS?) OF FLIPPING THE KNOT SUDDENLY, YOU'RE TOLD NOT TO!! HOW DO YOU DO THAT?? NOT FLIP?? ARGH! 02lol right BUT ONCE YOU GET THE KNACK OF IT, YOU'RE OK WE HAVE ONE NEEDLE TATTER, SHERREE? i do both mimi 02yes I just pulled the core thread tight and kept the second shuttle thread loose OK THEN TWO THE BEST EXPLANATION I'VE SEEN IS THE ONE THAT ANITA WROTE INTO THIS LESSON Needle tatter's, you have it easy on this one.... first do the first half of your split ring as you would a normal ring.... now for the "hard part" lol... unthread your needle and use that thread to do the other side of the split ring, just remember to do the second half of the DS then the first half of the DS. 02i do a little of both but want to settle on needle right now AFTER YOU HAVE UNTHREADED YOUR NEEDLE AND USED THE THREAD END TO TAT (2ND HALF FIRST), RETHREAD YOUR NEEDLE AND CLOSE THE RING AS NORMAL BUT WHAT YOU WILL FIND IS YOUR BALL THREAD AND YOUR NEEDLE THREAD WILL BE COMING OUT OF THE TOP OF THE RING INSTEAD OF THE USUAL EXIT A THTE BOTTOM 02sounds easy enough I would like to learn needle but since I managed to get a shuttle first will keep at it till I learn better IT IS SHEREE BUT SHUTTLE TATTERS HAVE A MORE DIFFCULT TIME yes that was quite evident THAT DOGGONE SHUTTLE LIMITS US AGAIN (EVEN THOUGH IT'S PRETTY AND HOLDS LOTS OF THREAD!!) it is really easy. deffinatly shouldnt stop you from trying the more "difficult" patterns :) 07so what else is new? LOL WHAT CLICKED FOR ME WAS BEING SHOWN TO DO THE 2ND HALF OF THE RING IN THE DEAD SPIDER HOLD 07Asolutley not - I'm game I found it difficult holding the hands in this position 07I looked at the dead spider hold and felt trapped! the only hard part for needle split ring is to remember when you turn your needl to work with the balle thread is to start with the second half stitch but it worked ok and it is easier than other ways DIFFERENT FOLKS DO IT DIFFERENT WAYS MY PEA BRAIN GETS TIED UP IN KNOTS WHEN i TAKE THE RING OFF MY HAND AND RE-POSITION IT BUT OTHERS HAVE MORE BRAIN POWER :) THE MAIN THING IS: 07me too! I get confused just thinking of moving the position! TO MAKE SURE HTAT WHEN YOU MAKE THE 2ND HALF OF THE RING - DON'T FLIP THE KNOTS KNOT THE 2ND SHUTTLE THREAD (DID I MENTION THIS IS A 2 SHUTTLE TECHNIQUE?) DIRECTLY ONTO THE CORE THREAD DO NOT DISTURB THE CORE THREAD 07doesnt that just make a knot? OR YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CLOSE THE KNOT ER, CLOSE THE RING DEAD SPIDER HOLD: MAKE THE FIRST HALF OF THE RING THE NORMAL WAY THEN PUT DOWN SHUTTLE ONE can this split ring be used to climb out of doilies to the next rounds? PICK UP SHUTTLE TWO bj if you keep the core thread taught you will still be able to move it THAT'S RIGHT GRACE WHEN THE ROUNDS ARE CONNECTED BY RINGS yes Grace it can dont loosen the core thread though or you will have a knot not chains? NO THAT WOULD TAKE A SPLIT CHAIN AFTER PICKING UP SHUTTLE 2 TURN YOUR LEFT HAND A BIT SO YOUR PALM IS FACING UP must one use two shuttles or change to two shuttles if using ball and shuttle to climb out to next round? THAT MAKES THE CORE THREAD MORE HORIZONTAL YOU'LL TAT OVER THE THREAD GOING FROM PINKY TO PINCH MAKE SURE THAT THREAD IS TAUT ok THEN MAKE THE MOTIONS OF THE 2ND HALF OF A DOUBLE STITCH BUT DON'T FLIP, JUST TENSION IT OVER THE TOP OF THE CORE THREAD DON'T LEAVE LOOPS, THAT'S GAPSOSIS AFTER THAT HALF IS COMPLETE, DO THE FIRST HALF DS, DON'T FLIP WHEN TENSIONING KEEP REPEATING FOR THE DS'S NECESSARY TO FINISH THE RING MAKING A PICOT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BUT YET THE SAME is this method used also to change or add different colours YOU'LL LEAVE A DISTANCE OF SHUTTLE 2 THREAD BETWEEN THE KNOTS AND WHEN YOU DRAW IT UP YOU WILL HAVE A PICOT IT CAN BE A WAY FOR THAT, GRACE SO IS EVERYONE TATTING? :0 07yes yes OK I'LL WAIT TO SEE HOW YOUR SPLIT RINGS COME OUT. just finishng end on a project for georgia 07still working on the table cloth; but, i did one motiff for scanning Ginette ca va ..... as tu des question no project.just learning stich... ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO MAKE THE SPLIT RING OR HOW TO FIND INSTRUCTIONS TO DO IT? 07NO 02Just getting the ring right now, no project-yet IN THAT CASE, LET'S EXAMINE ONE OF THE PATTERNS : http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art5541.asp THIS IS A SMALL MOTIF THAT USES SPLIT RINGS IN 2 WAYS when you do a picot which stich do you use? merci Katia. will work with what I haVE AN FOLLOW LESSON 1 AND OVER 1) CLIMB OUT FROM CENTRAL FLOWER TO 2ND ROUND 2) SPLIT RINGS AS DESIGN ELEMENT INSIDE THE 2ND ROUND CHAINS tu fait de la navette ou l aiguille Ginette 2ND HALF FIRST de l'aiquille 2ND HALF FIRST GRACE I MEAN :) L'AGUILLE C'EST FACILE SORRY COULDN'T RESIST then the picot would end with the first? k reste ici apres le cour eureusement... C'EST FACILE FOR LE SPLIT RING OK GILLIAN'S SPLIT RING FLOWER http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art5541.asp SHE STARTS OFF WITH A CENTER OF 8 RINGS BUT SHE NEATLY AVOIDS THE DREADED FOLDED JOIN AT THE END OF THAT FLOWER BY DOING THE LAST RING AS A SPLIT RING! indeed mimiup here i have 2 biginer needle class that i teach ;) THAT'S GREAT KATIA, MAYBE YOU CAN LEAD AN ON -LINE CLASS FOR FRENCH SPEAKING TATTERS? OR HELP US IWTH THE ENGLISH!! ONCE SHE MADE THE 8TH RING AS A SPLIT RING, SHE FINDS THAT HER THREADS ARE IN JUST THE RIGHT PLACE TO START THE 2ND ROUND THEY ARE STICKING OUT THE TOP OF THE RING! help would be ok ... but 5 class per week no more time to tat NOW, BEFORE YOU START THE 1ST CHAIN OF THE NEXT ROUND (ISTN'T THAT THE TRUTH KATIA I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN) YOU WILL NEED TO MAKE A "MOCK PICOT" THAT'S THE SAME FOR NEEDLE OR SHUTTLE YOU'LL NEED TO MAKE SOMETHING THERE THAT LOOKS LIKE A PICOT 07WE DID THOSEON THE ROSETTE, RIGHT? SO THAT WAY IT WILL LOOK LIKE YOUR OTHER 7 REPEATS WILL LOOK WHICH "THOSE" BJ? 07ROSETTE? TYPO TO MAKE A MOCK PICOT IS SIMPLE: LEAVE A THREAD SPACE ON BOTH THREADS AND MAKE A LOCK STITCH 07WE DID MOCK PICOTS ON ROSETTES THE LOCK STITCH IS MADE BY A FLIPPED FIRST HALF DS + NON-FLIPPED 2ND HALF (OR VICE-VERSA) I DONT' REMEMBER THAT BJ BUT MY BRAIN IS MUCH * Shar has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) MUSH I MEAN rosette = 5 ring daisy THE OTHER TRICKY PART ABOUT THE CHAINS IS THAT YOU STOP MID-STREAM AND MAKE A SPLIT RING, THEN CHAIN AGAIN AFTER THE SPLIT RING rosette is a french term JUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHICH SHUTTLE IS WHICH SO THAT YOU GET BOTH CHAINS ARCHING IN THE SAME DIRECTION YOU'RE RIGHT BJ, THERE IS A MOCK PICOT - OR "FALSE" PICOT - CALLED FOR IN GEORGIA'S CLASSIC ROSETTE FOR GINETTE/KATIA THE ROSETTE IS HERE: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/springideas.html 07NOW THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TWO SHUTTLES, I DON'T FIND IT DIFFICULT. THE CLASSIC ROSETTE TO WHICH GEORGIA REFERS OFTEN IS THIS TYPE OF FLOWER IWTH ROUNDS AND ROUND OF CHAINS AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF JUST ONE RING 07I LIKED THE WAY IT BECAME 3-DIMENSIONAL; SO DIDN'T DO THE 'FLAT' VERSION SO THAT MIGHT CONFUSE THE FRENCH TATTERS WHO SEE IT AS A 5-RING DAISY (DARN, NOT CONFUSING TATTING TERMS!) ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PATTERN OR SPLIT RINGS? 07NO OK, OUR LAST TATTING SUBJECT IS .... BEADS!! BEADING TATTING IS ACTUALLY A VERY LARGE SUBJECT 02no BUT WE CAN TALK AOBUT SOME OF THE SIMPLER ELEMETNS I WISH BETTY WERE HERE TONIGHT SHE'S DONE A LOT OF ADDING BEADS ON HER OWN BEFORE WE GOT TO LESSON 3 MUCH LESS THIS ONE THE SIMPLEST WAY TO ADD BEADS IS ON PICOTS RIGHT WHILE YOU'RE TATTING IF YOU'VE THREADED THEM ON BEFORE YOU START YOU CAN SLIDE THEM INTO THE PLACE OF A PICOT THE TRICK IS PUTTING THEM ON THE CORRECT THREAD FIRST IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF PLANNING YOU CAN ALSO PUT BEADS ON JOINS 07SOUNDS DAUNTING IT TAKES LESS PLANNING BUT IS A LITTLE MORE FIDDLY MOST TIMES THE DESIGNER WILL TELL YOU WHAT THREAD TO PUT YOUR BEADS ON BEFORE STARTING SOME DON'T THOUGH THE RULES ARE BEADED PICOTS ON RINGS - SHUTTLE 1 THREAD GETS THOSE BEADED PICOTS ON CHAINS - BALL THREAD GETS THOSE THOSE ARE THE SHUTTLE TATTER'S RULES OF COURSE 02right NEEDLE TATTERS JUST PUT THE BEADS ON THE BAL LTHREAD 02ok (EXCEPT IF YOU ARE BEADING PICOTS ON THE 2ND HALF OF A SPLIT RING OF COURSE) FOR SHUTTLE TATTERS, THE RINGS TAKE A 2ND SET OF PLANNING 07i LOVE THOSE "EXCEPTS" 02lol me too SORRY I'M AN EXCEPTION ALL HTE TIME 02hehehe 07SHESHESHE JUST CAN'T MAKE A GENERALIZATION, HAVE TO TELL HTE DETAILS TOO ANYWAY, IF YOU ARE TATTING A RING WITH BEADS ONTEH PICOTS 02ok 07OK YOU WILL HAVE TO COUNT THE BEADS ON THE PICOTS OF THE RING FIRST 02ok 07OK THEN SLIDE THAT MANY BEADS UP FROM THE SHUTTLE TO THE RING THREAD THEN SET UP TO MAKE THE RING (THREAD FROM PINCH OVER THE HAND BACK TO PINCH THE BEADS SHOUDL BE *INSIDE* THE RING 07OK NOT BETWEEN THE RING AND SHUTTLE OR RING AND BALL I KEEP MINE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE RING NEAR MY PINKY OUT OF THE WAY OF WHERE THE SHUTTLE IS PLAYING OTHERWISE THEY SLIDE IN BEFORE I NEED THEM 07COOL I'LL TAT THE NECESSARY DS'S TO THE BEAD PICOT, THEN SLIDE A BEAD - THAT'S MY PICOT - AND MAKE MORE DS'S THAT'S BEADING! ALWAYS COUNT CAREFULLY AND THINK AHEAD AND YOU WONT' GO WRONG (MUCH ) THE OTHER WAY TO ADD BEADS IS OVER A PICOT THAT TAKES SOME WORK WITH A PICOT GAUGE 07OK, SO THEY 'SORT OF' TAKE THE SPACE USUALLY USED FOR A PICOT? BECAUSE YOU'LL NEED TO MAKE THE PICOT AS HIGH AS THE BEAD'S CENTER EXACTLY BJ! this sounds easier than the previous way IF YOU LOOK HERE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/beads.html YOU'LL SEE A RAINBOW OF COLORED BEADS RED-YELLOW-ORANGE IN THE RINGS TAKING THE PLACE OF PICOTS THE BLUE BEADS ARE VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BEAD IN SOME OF THOSE PICOTS... DO YOU SEE IT? YOU CAN SLID UP MORE THAN ONE BEAD INTO A PICOT YOU GET SOME INTERESTING EFFECTS 02yep that's cool yes LISA TRIMBLE DID A NICE LESSON ON BEADING JOINS: http://www.thisntat.com/bead_lessons1.html 07I'LL CHECK OUT THE SITES THOSE OF YOU INTERESTED IN BEADING MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT ONE - IT GIVES YOU MORE FLEXIBILITY ON WHERE TO PLACE BEADS 02ok if you need to thread the beads before , don't they get in the way when you tat especially if they are on the shuttle? IF YOU DECIDE TO FOLLOW THE REGULAR ON-LINE CLASS, YOU'LL FIND THAT BEADING IS A POPULAR TOPIC MANAGING BEADS ON YOUR SHUTTLE IS ONE OF THE TOPICS FREQUENTLY DISCUSSED ON LINE IF YOU ONLY HAVE A FEW BEADS AND THOSE SMALL ONES ITS NO BIG DEAL THEY CAN FIT ON THE SHUTTLE BUT YOU WILL FIND THAT YOU WIND AND UNWIND THE SHUTTLE A LOT BECAUSE ITS THE WINDS OF THE SHUTTLE THREAD THAT KEEP THE BEADS ON THE SHUTTLE AND NOT FLOATING AROUND IN THE WAY WHAT I FIND THAT I DO IS PUSH THE BEADS BACK ON TO THE SHUTTLE THREAD, LEAVING A FEW MORE INCHES OF THREAD TO WIND BACK ON AFTER THE BEADS DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? 02yes yes 07SORT OF A FAMOUS BEAD-TATTER, NINA LIBIN, ACTUALLY USES SHUTTLES WITH ENDS THAT DON'T TOUCH 07I'M VISUALIZING. BECUASE SHE'S WINDING THREAD ON AND OFF SO MUCH AS SHE SLIDES OFF BEADS 02her works is so nice too kind of I'M SORRY I HAVE TO HAVE THE TIPS MEET I DROP MY SHUTTLE TOO MUCH IT WOULD RUN WAY TOO FAR AWAY IF THE THREAD COULD JUST UNWIND LIEK THAT!! 02can you di Nina's type of work with needle tatting? BUT AGAIN YOU SEE THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO MANAGE YOUR TOOLS YES IT CAN SHERREE 02Great! BUT YOU'LL NEED TO MAKE SURE YOUR BEADS CAN SLIDE OVER YOUR TATTING NEEDLE 02ok BECAUSE YOU'LL BE THREADING THEM ONTO YOUR NEEDLE ALL THE TIME MID-STREAM 02will do I MEAN IN THE MIDST OF CASTING ON STITCHES OF RINGS OR CHAINS 02oh I didnt think of that SHE USES BEADS ON THE CORE THREAD AN ON THE BALL THREAD AT THE SAME TIME 02of course! PRETTY EFFECT BUT I THINK TIME CONSUMING WITH THE NEEDLE? 02light bulb moment here! TO SEE NINA'S WORK YOU CAN GO TO http://www.beanile.com AFTER CLASS LIGHT BULB SHERREE? I HOPE IT'S A GOOD ONE? when youget the hang of it with the needleits about the same time consuming Mmi 02yes the I was in the dark here THANKS KATIA, I'M HAPPY TO KNOW THAT NEEDLE TATTERS HAVE TO BE VERY INVENTIVE SO MUCH OF WHAT'S PUBLISHED ABOUT TATTING IS WRITTEN BY AND FOR SHUTTLE TATTERS 02right IT'S NOT FAIR, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT IS SO NEEDLE TATTERS LEARN EARLY TO "TRANSLATE" SHUTTLE TALK AND USUALLY THEY FIND FASTER WAYS OF DOING IT :) NOW, THE FINAL THING FOR THIS CLASS: ANITA AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO JOIN THE REGULAR MONDAY-NIGHT ON LINE CLASS honestly if you can do it with a shuttle you can do it with a needle or afternoon CAN'T SAY THE REVERSE 100% THOUGH KATIA NEEDLES CAN DO SOME THINGS SHUTTLES CANT 02ok 07ISN'T THERE A MORE 'INTERMEDIATE' CLASS STEP. GEORGIA'S TASKS SEEM HARD TO ME SORRY NO INTERMEDIATE BUT THERE IS ONE MORE LESSON ON THE BEGINNER'S SITE WE CALLED IT "BONUS" 07GOOD 02ok 07I'LL MISS YOU GUYS no bj if you can manage here its not that hard to ollow there I WROTE IT FOR A SET OF TATTERS THAT BREEZED THROUGH THE FIRST 4 LESSONS SO WELL THAT I HAD TO FIND A CHALLENGE FOR HTEM SO I GAVE THEM SPLIT CHAINS I ATTAINED MY GOAL :) 12G's classes are not that bad when you see what kind of info you get in the chat though oups follow ... im typing like georgia tonight 07OH THANKS SO MUCH LOL 12the chats make them easier 02cool THE MAIN THING ABOUT THOSE CLASSES IS THEY WORK THIS SAME WAY A WEB-PAGE LESSON IS PUBLISHED YOU READ IT AND TRY IT 02ok THEN COME TO THE MONDAY AFTERNOON OR EVENING CLASS USING THIS SAME CLASSROOM 07OK I NEVER GIVE UP! 12any questions you have can be asked in the chat AND CHANGE YOUR NICK :) ARRIVE 15 MINUTES EARLY FOR CHAT 02ok BECAUSE YOU'LL MAKE FRIENDS QUICKLY AND WANT TO SAY HELLO! AT THE END OF THE CLASS THERE SHOULD BE A LOG PUBLISHED GEORGIA GIVES A LINK ON THE SAME SITE AS THE LESSONS the class are also in this room THIS YEAR THE CLASS LESSONS ARE AT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/2007index.html 02ok 07THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP MIMI - FUN KNOWING SOMEONE FROM MY OLD HOME RANGE. THE LESSON THIS PAST MONDAY IS AT THE TOP YOU'RE VERY WELCOME BJ, COME BACK TO VISIT ANYTIME THE COLUMBIA RIVER WILL BE THERE A LONG TIME I HTINK :) IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED, WE CAN CONVENE HERE NEXT THURSDAY NITE FOR THE BONUS LESSON 02YES 07NAMED AFTER THAT SHIP MY ANCESTOR BUILT GOOD OLD JAMES BRIGGS 12lol i will try to remember this time mimi 12i want to sit in on that one myself fine OK THEN IT'S A DEAL 07OK= "SEE" YOU NEXT THURS PRACTICE YOUR SPLIT RINGS 02ok I will 07OOOOKAAAYYYY AND TATTING OVER TAILS AND SUCH 02thanks for the class Mimi THEN HAVE A LOOK AT THE BONUS LESSON 12thanks mimi 02ok http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/2007index.html 07THANKS AGAIN what time is the afternoon classes I would need to translate the time to mine and work out which is easier to attend 12sorry i havnt been much help to you lately OOPS CLIPBOARD MALFUNCTION http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/bonus_lesson.htm FOR NEXT THURSDAY Thanks Mimi GEORGIA'S REGULAR MONDAY AFTERNOON LESSON IS NOON NY TIME GRACE 07ARE ALL THE TIMES BASED ON EATERN TIME I HAVE TO CONVERT I THINK THAT'S MAYBE DINNER TIME FOR YOU? THAT'S RIGHT BJ that is 12noon? no mimi its at 3 pm est 12 NOON NEW YORK TIME AND THEN AGAIN 5:30 PM NEW YORK TIME 07SO 10AM HERE IN MT. TIME OOPS NOON WEST COAST TIME!! SORRY BJ THAT'S 1 PM BJ MY FAULT 07OK 11 A.M. and 8h30pm EAST mimi i'm hopeless when it comes to working out time zones! SO 3PM EASTERN TIME THEN IS JUST BEFORE BEDTIME IN ROME In Argentina is 11 pm 07OK 1 PM http://www.timeanddate.com is my friend!! is it 3pm my time 02lol 12have to go. hubby wants the computer. see you all next week 12good night * AnitaH has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 02good night all grace its 11h pm at your place 07GOOOD NIGHT ALL * Sherree10 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) night Anita * bj has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) what time then is the other class Good Night for all of you you'll have 9pm Rome time or what time is it at your place ill give you your time Ginette attend avant de quitter or? oui j'attend sorry was consulting timeanddate.com grace give me your actual time at the moment 1/2 hour earlier than this one starts so I think 3:30 am? so I think it best my time 9pm right Exactly Grace thanks your a darling!!! That 3pm NY time class was scheduleed with Europeans in mind Sorry for the Aussies though i'll see you her though thursday imon that class Grace not sure how to accommodate them without sstaying up late :) You're welcome Grace, you're a great studen Thank you Katia for helping out Grace look forme on monday`s class I'll hire you any time Thanks everyone for coming ill help anytime i can I'll sign off now and post the log thanks, by the way contacted edda and she explained the terms Which terms? talk to you via email The italian ones? explained the patterns That's great WE all admire Edda's work i was having trouble understanding But us non-Italian speakers always watch for translations :) she's great in fact will be receiving her cd and she il mailing me out the shuttles I hope you'll review that cd when you get it Grace need to now work out the thread Ginette jài un feuillet pour toi qui explique la base du double noeud a làiguille Let us know what it's like anyway, good night all, see you next week. J'attend * Disconnected Session Close: Thu Feb 08 19:06:50 2007