Session Start: Wed Jun 14 17:52:14 2006
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<AnitaH> hi mimi
<Mimi> Hi Anita, Brenda and MAry!
<AnitaH> i am doing great!
<AnitaH> we are moving into a house beginning of next month
<AnitaH> getting excited now to have more room
<Mimi> a real house! Still in London?
<AnitaH> and i am going to be able to set up a cutting station in my basement
<AnitaH> yes
<MaryR> cutting station?
<Mimi> A craft room for you, do the girls get a yard?
<AnitaH> we are getting a 3 bedroom 2 bath town house
<AnitaH> small yard but has a "communal" type front yard
<bctoadlover-N> do you rent or buy?
<AnitaH> and i will have part of the recroom for my craft stuff
<AnitaH> rent
<bctoadlover-N> what does it cost?
<AnitaH> 850 a month
<bctoadlover-N> that is pounds right
<AnitaH> canadian dollars
<Mimi> Rents are lower there... even with the weak US dollar!
<bctoadlover-N> are you in london england or london ontario
<AnitaH> ontario
<bctoadlover-N> oh ha ha
<AnitaH> this is one of the lower rents i have found for a house
<AnitaH> some went up to about 1200
<AnitaH> cant afford that :(
<Mimi> that sounds more familiar for a house
<bctoadlover-N> wonderful, yes more like that here.
<bctoadlover-N> congratulations
<AnitaH> ty :)
<AnitaH> like i said i am getting excited about having more space
<AnitaH> just wish my cat would have lived to come with us
<AnitaH> :(
<Mimi> Oh no
<AnitaH> mimi do you remember me telling you he was attacked by a dog?
<Mimi> Did you?
<Mimi> Was it awhile ago?
<AnitaH> he got an infection from it and antibiotics didnt work
<AnitaH> yes in late dec
<Mimi> Oh that's so sad. I'm soryr to hear it. He was a beautiful cat
<bctoadlover-N> did you witness the attack, it is a great fear of mine to have our cat attacked.
<AnitaH> he died od liver failure
<AnitaH> yes the attack was in our home
<AnitaH> it was a foster dog we were trying to rescue
<bctoadlover-N> were you successful in the dog's rescue?
<AnitaH> he is now adopted by a couple who never plans to have kids or cats
<AnitaH> and he is an animal trainer
<AnitaH> so i think that is the best home for him
<AnitaH> (the dog that is) lol
<bctoadlover-N> have you fostered for long?
<AnitaH> it had been badly mistreated before we took him out of the shelter
<AnitaH> that was the first one we had
<AnitaH> we are going to foster cats when we come home after bible camp this summer
<AnitaH> possibly dogs too but not at the same time
<AnitaH> wont do that again 
<bctoadlover-N> Our cat does not like other cats
<Mimi> Neither does my cat. But she was raised as an only.
<AnitaH> neither did our cat, but he liked dogs 
<Mimi> Her cousin kitties were raised with a dog and all get along fine
<AnitaH> that is why we tried fostering a dog
<bctoadlover-N> He was 'abandoned' so to speak by a neighbour, I am allergic but he is such a joy
<AnitaH> looks like we have a small class today mimi
<AnitaH> have the two of you looked over lesson 4?
<bctoadlover-N> Briefly
<MaryR> skimmed it
<Mimi> Don't forget we ran short on lesson 3, too, missed MTT except in brief
<bctoadlover-N> MMT?
<AnitaH> magic thread trick
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<Mimi> Did you both have a chance to look over the magic thread trick and the idea of strategy to reduce thread ends?
<AnitaH> sorry that was me..... trying to open another window lol
<MaryR> I've known about the magic thread trick from embroidery
<bctoadlover-N> I tried sewing ends in Lily's way
<Mimi> Embroiderers use MTT... interesting! Too bad they didn't share it with tatters sooner than 10 years ago :)
<Mimi> My 36-motif-doily had 72 ends to sew in or pull in, thankuflly I had just learned MTT so I could do it with less "agony" of ends
<AnitaH> http://www.gagechek.com/slb/demo/demo.html
<AnitaH> here is a good site with video of MTT
<bctoadlover-N> I wasn't pleased with my results as the 'waistband' becomes slanted, is this how it does it for you?
<AnitaH> and some great instruction on how it is done
<Mimi> I don't get any slanting with Lily's way... do you think perhaps you split a thread when sending the needle through?
<AnitaH> with lilys way?
<bctoadlover-N> I did it over and over again because I thought I might have but no, I didn't
<Mimi> Hmmm. Was it after pulling taut to get the thread to lay inside? Did it go away after relaxing?
<bctoadlover-N> That MTT looks promising
<AnitaH> next question.... did you feel the stitches pop inside?
<bctoadlover-N> no I didnt feel anything, I just pulled the thread tight, I tried pulling slowly, and I tried pulling quickly same results and one of the legs seems to be pulled back more noticable on one side of the work than the other.  I thought perhaps I had pulled the thread too tight so I wiggled the work back and forth to loosen but still the same look.
<AnitaH> ok if you didnt feel the "pop" you may have sewn the stitches in the wron direction
<bctoadlover-N> there is a direction?
<Mimi> When I follow the direction, the thread does indeed go hide when I pull it taut. These are the times when I want a web cam!!
<AnitaH> make sure you go up between the pant legs and down between the DS
<Mimi> Also, keep the needle under the cap but above the core thread 
<AnitaH> i got that right right mimi????
<Mimi> Actually Anita the instructions show the reverse.
<bctoadlover-N> the thread is hidden but the stitches are affected.
<bctoadlover-N> It all depends which side you are looking at
<Mimi> From the needle-in side, I push the needle between the ds
<AnitaH> ok lol easier to do when i am doing it rather than trying to remember
<Mimi> then it comes out on the other side between the legs
<Mimi> I flip the work over to make sure I put the needle in accurately
<Mimi> if I feel resistance, I pull it out and try again (resistance - likely splitting a thread)
<bctoadlover-N> well as far as I can tell I am doing it 'correctly' so lets just go on to another subject.
<Mimi> ok, let's do split rings anita!
<Mimi> Would you like to teach tonight?
<AnitaH> ok
<AnitaH> SORRY SHORT MEMORY
<AnitaH> NEEDLE TATTERS OR SHUTTLE LADIES?
<bctoadlover-N> I am a needle
<AnitaH> MARY?
<MaryR> trying to learn both
<AnitaH> OK SO LETS START WITH THE NEEDLE THEN
<AnitaH> FIRST OFF WE WILL NEED A LENGTH OF THREAD (AND KEEP IN MIND SR TAKE UP ALOT OF IT) CUT OFF THE BALL
<AnitaH> A SR WILL BE WRITTEN UP IN A PATTERN AS 6-6/6-6 
<AnitaH> WITH MEANS TO DO 6DS PICOT 6DS,AS IF YOU WERE DOING AN ORDINARY RING
<AnitaH> THEN UNTHREAD YOUR NEEDLE AND USING THE END THAT WAS THREADED THROUGH THE NEEDLE DO 6DS PICOT 6DS 
<AnitaH> BUT FOR THE SECOND SIDE REVERSE THE HALVES OF THE DS
<AnitaH> IE DO STEP 2 THEN STEP 1 OF THE DS
<AnitaH> THEN YOU WILL RETHREAD THE NEEDLE AND CLOSE THE RING AS YOU WOULD FOR A NORMAL SCMR
<AnitaH> ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR?
<MaryR> can it be done with 2 needles instead of rethreading all the time?
<AnitaH> NOPE
<AnitaH> YOU WILL NEED ONE NEEDLE AS YOU NEED TO USE THAT ONE THREAD FOR BOTH MOVEMENTS
<Mimi> The same thread is the core all the way through the ring - therefore one needle.
<AnitaH> http://www.handyhandstatting.com/splitring.htm
<AnitaH> HERE IS A GOOD SITE WITH PHOTOS SO YOU CAN SEE WHY YOU NEED TO UNTHREAD AND RETHREAD THE NEEDLE
<AnitaH> AS WELL AS SEEING THE MECHANICS OF DOING THE RING
<AnitaH> NOW IF WE ARE GOING TO DO A SR USING SHUTTLES
<AnitaH> YOU WILL WANT 2 SHUTTLES WOUND CTM
<AnitaH> AND YOU WILL START AS THOUGH YOU ARE GOING TO DO A TRUE RING, WINDING THE THREAD AROUND YOUR HAND
<AnitaH> DO THE FIRST PART OF THE RING, THEN DROPPING THE SHUTTLE YOU ARE WORKING WITH AND TURNING
<AnitaH> YOU HAND PALM UP SO IT LOOKS LIKE A DEAD SPIDER (LEGS IN THE AIR)
<AnitaH> YOU WILL THEN PICK UP YOUR SECOND SHUTTLE, AND DO THE SECOND SIDE BEING CAREFUL
<AnitaH> TO DO THE DS IN REVERSE ORDER (STEP 2 THEN STEP 1)
<MaryR>        
<AnitaH> AND ALSO TO NOT  (YES NOT!!!!) TURNING YOUR STITCHES FOR THIS SIDE
<AnitaH> ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR?
<Mimi> yes, after all this time reminding you to always flip your stitches... now we say "maybe not always" :)
<AnitaH> LOL YUP MOST TATTERS HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING THE FLIP..... NOW WE DONT WANT YOU TO DO IT :)
<AnitaH> OK.... AFTER YOU HAVE BOTH SIDES DONE YOU CAN CLOSE YOUR SR AS YOU WOULD ANY OTHER RING
<AnitaH> SOMETHING ALOT OF US FIND USEFUL IS TO TRY TO MOVE THE CORE THREAD A BIT RIGHT AFTER DOING THE FIRST DS ON THE SECOND HALF OF THE SR
<AnitaH> THIS WAY IF YOU HAVE FLIPPED IT BY ACCIDENT YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO UNDO ALOT OS STITCHES
<Mimi> I frequently check for core thread sliding on the 2nd half of a split ring
<Mimi> it's easy to get distracted and forget to not flip
<AnitaH> IT IS TOO EASY TO FLIP HALF A STITCH AND NOT REALIZE IT UNTIL YOU GO TO CLOSE THE RING
<AnitaH> KEEP CHECKING
<AnitaH> OK ON TO BEADS...... UNLESS EITHER OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS
<bctoadlover-N> no questions
<MaryR> go for it
<AnitaH> AND IF YOU DO PLEASE JUMP IN AND SAY SO! DONT WAIT TO BE ASKED LOL
<Mimi> split rings are very useful!
<AnitaH> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/beads.html
<Mimi> Lots of internet designers use them, so you may want to practice in case that next beautiful pattern you want to do has SR.
<AnitaH> ON THIS PAGE THERE IS A SCAN TO SHOW HOW BEADS CAN BE ADDED EITHER ON OR OVER A PICOT
<AnitaH> WHEN BEADS ARE GOING TO BE USED IN YOUR DESIGN YOU WILL NEED TO PLAN OUR THEIR PLACEMENT A BIT
<AnitaH> ANY BEADS THAT WILL BE ON A PICOT WILL NEED TO BE STRUNG ONTO YOUR THREAD BEFORE YOU WORK, 
<AnitaH> ANY BEADS TO BE PLACED OVER A PICOT CAN BE ADDED AS YOU GO
<AnitaH> IF A DESIGNER PLANNED TO HAVE BEADS IN THEIR DESIGN THEY WILL TELL YOU WHAT ORDER AND HOW MANY TO STRING
<AnitaH> THOUGH DONT LET WHAT THE DESIGNER PLANNED BE THE ONLY THING THAT GUIDES YOU
<AnitaH> YOU CAN GET ALOT OF DIFFERENT LOOKS BY ADDING BEADS IN DIFFERENT PLACES AND DIFFERENT STYLES OF BEADS
<AnitaH> THEY CAN GREATLY CHANGE THE LOOK OF A TATTED PIECE
<AnitaH> WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO PUT A BEAD ON A PICOT AS SHOWN IN THE DIAG. YOU ONLY HAVE TO TAT UP TO THE POSITION YOU WANT THE BEAD
<AnitaH> THEN SLIDE THE BEAD INTO POSITION AND CONTINUE TO TAT
<AnitaH> ANY QUESTIONS?
<AnitaH> CLEAR AS MUD????
<AnitaH> LOL
<MaryR> :-)
<AnitaH> OK LADIES THERE IS ONLY REALLY ONE OTHER THING WE WERE GOING TO COVER IN THESE BEGINNERS LESSONS
<AnitaH> AND THAT IS MORE OF A HELP SO YOU KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN YOU JOIN IN ON THE MONDAY NIGHT CLASSES
<AnitaH> NOW.... FIRST OFF THESE CLASSES HAVE ENDED UNTIL FALL BUT.....
<AnitaH> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/heesbk5edge7.pdf
<AnitaH> HERE IS THE PATTERN WHICH GEORGIA SENT TO US FOR THE CLASS
<AnitaH> NOW DONT GET SCARED OFF THAT IT MAY LOOK A BIT MORE COMPLECATED THAN WE HAVE TRIED UP TO NOW
<AnitaH> BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOG GEORGIA HAS GIVEN US YOU CAN SEE THAT SHE GOES INTO DETAIL OF HOW TO DO EACH SECTION OF THE PATTERN
<AnitaH> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/20060313log.txt
<Mimi> this is pretty much the same format we've used here - published lesson, the post the log after for students to review
<AnitaH> ALTHOUGH THE MONDAY NIGHT CLASS MAY BE MORE ADVANCED, GEORGIA AND THE GUEST TEACHERS ALL ATTEMPT
<Mimi> and for those who missed the lesson to also read
<AnitaH> TO KEEP THE INSTRUCTIONS QUITE FILLED OUT
<AnitaH> SO YOU CAN KEEEP UP
<AnitaH> ALOT OF THE PATTERNS IN THE MONDAY NIGHT CLASS ONLY LOOK ADVANCED UNTIL WE ALL GET DISCUSSING IT
<Mimi> Other lessons can be found at http://www.georgiaseitz.com - 6 years' worth! Find the links to the various classes
<AnitaH> THEN YOU REALIZE IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF WATCHING STITCH COUNTS
<Mimi> sorry, links to the year, then you'll get a list of classes.
<AnitaH> IT IS WORTH THE TIME TO LOOK AT THESE CLASSES!!! GEORGIA HAS PUT ALOT INTO THIS AND IT SHOWS
<AnitaH> ALSO GEORGIA AND THE OTHER TEACHERS SHOW EVERYONE NEW TECHNIQUES THAT WE HAVENT
<AnitaH> SEEN HERE YET
<AnitaH> SOME MAY TAKE SOME PRACTICE BUT ARE WORTH THE LOOK 
<AnitaH> AND EVERYONE IS ALWAYS FRIENDLY AND WILLING TO HELP WITH ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS
<AnitaH> I AM SURE I SPEAK FOR MIMI AS WELL WHEN I SAY THAT WE ARE CONFIDENT YOU WILL BOTH ENJOY GEORGIA'S CLASS
<AnitaH> AND NOT HAVE DIFFICULTY KEEPING UP WITH IT
<Mimi> i agree
<AnitaH> I THINK OUR CLASSES HERE HAVE COVERED ALOT MORE "NEW TECHNIQUES" THAN YOU WILL BE EXPECTED TO LEARN
<AnitaH> IN G'S CLASSES IN A SHORT TIME
<AnitaH> LOL
<Mimi> Some may be a bit esoteric :)
<bctoadlover-N> The instructions for the beaded items are done with shuttles, is there any tips on changing them to needle as far as threading beads is concerned?
<Mimi> And if you like a more structured apprach to finding something to learn, you can look at http://www.geocities.com/shuttlebirds/Techniques_Level_of_Tatting_and_Basic_tatting_kit.htm
<Mimi> The Shuttlebirds give an annual tatting workshop, and tell their teachers to rate their classes by skill level based on these skills
<AnitaH> I HAVE STARTED USING DENTAL THREADERS TO THREAD MY BEADS ONTO MY THREADS FOR NEEDLE TATTING
<Mimi> another convert to dental floss threaders :)
<AnitaH> YOU STILL NEED TO HAVE BEADS THREADED ON BEFORE YOU START THOUGH IF THEY ARE TO BE ON THE PICOT
<AnitaH> LOL YUP
<AnitaH> DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
<Mimi> Another needle tatting with beads guide: beads on the core thread need to be big enough to accommodate the needle and thread
<Mimi> Beads are a big subject. Popular too! You'll see lots of lessons on Georgia's site about them.
<AnitaH> THERE IS SO MUCH YOU CAN DO WITH BEADS
<AnitaH> WE COULD HAVE A WHOLE COURSE JUST ON THEM!
<AnitaH> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS LADIES?
<Mimi> 4+ weeks too!
<AnitaH> LOL NO WAY WE COULD FINISH IN 4 WEEKS!!!!!
<AnitaH> LOL
<Mimi> Thanks to both Brenda and MAry for stikcing with the lessons for all 4 weeks. You've been great students
<Mimi> I can tell from your questions that you are trying and accomplishing a lot
<Mimi> I hope you like it enough to continue
<Mimi> It's kind of tough when you're on your own.
<AnitaH> please dont think that you cant join us for another set come fall though.... :)
<Mimi> But hopfully you'll find some local tatters too
<Mimi> I'm not too sure about Kamloops,  though
<AnitaH> even though we mentioned the monday class
<AnitaH> :)
<MaryR> so these other classes aren't going on now?  not til fall?
<Mimi> But there is a group of lacemakers in ATlanta
<bctoadlover-N> I was wondering I am using a no.7 needle with no.30 thread but am having trouble still seeing my core thread on the chains when I do two color tatting, if I used a no.8 needle might the stitches be more likely to cover the core for me.
<Mimi> and I think they have tatters
<AnitaH> i will likely be in the classroom wed nights to chat and answer questions
<Mimi> and Atlanta is not to long of a drive from Columbia SC
<AnitaH> but no official class as mimi and i both are busy with summer break
<Mimi> where another very active group gives an annual Tat Day - Palmettos tattesr
<bctoadlover-N> I met someone on line from Kamloops she is a shuttle tatter I think.
<Mimi> Great!
<Mimi> Needle size difficulty - Anita would know better, but I believe a smaller needle will be one help
<AnitaH> brenda make sure your needle and thread are almost the same size
<Mimi> Another help is to make sure that you push the DS together and tighten your work
<AnitaH> there should be as little difference in size as possible
<Mimi> So that the chains make a nice curve
<Mimi> and the core thread should show less if the stitches are more tightly packed
<AnitaH> a chain will always curve if snugged up properly
<Mimi> shuttle tatters will have the same problem if they don't snug up the work
<bctoadlover-N> I think I will try a smaller needle otherwise my stitches looked smushed together and I loose stitch definition.
<Mimi> Smallest needle you can use and still pull through the stitches is the best choice.
<AnitaH> deffinatly
<bctoadlover-N> Great.
<AnitaH> by the way you are both welcome to email me through the summer if any questions ever come up
<Mimi> Same here... I may not be able to read every day, but I will reply evenutally
<bctoadlover-N> Thanks so much for your help. I will definitely be trying out that MTT.
<Mimi> ntrop at ix.netcom.com
<AnitaH> please dont feel that you have to wait until fall to have questions answered
<AnitaH> anital76@hotmail.com or ahobden@hotmail.com
<Mimi> frequently you can get help on the tatting lists, too - or someone else may ask about something that has bothered you and get an answer!
<AnitaH> i check both daily :)
<MaryR> which tatting lists?
<AnitaH> yahoo and msn both have great groups for tatter
<Mimi> etatters@yahoo.com and tatting@yahoo.com are the most active ones I think.
<Mimi> If you like an on-line forum, there's http://www.etatters.com
<AnitaH> etatters is a great one!
<AnitaH> if nothing else look into that one!
<Mimi> Lots of good discussions on all.
<bctoadlover-N> I joined needletatting two msn group, haven't quite figured out how the etatters.com works, there are so many messages on that one
<Mimi> I find it hard to keep up.
<AnitaH> always nice to see others work and to get ideas from others
<AnitaH> with etatters i think you have to pick which threads look intersting to you
<bctoadlover-N> others groups I joined are not very active but I am finding they have the same members
<AnitaH> dont try to read everything
<Mimi> there is a lot of overlap, so I do a lot of deleting :)
<AnitaH> you will deffinatly find the same people around :)
<bctoadlover-N> I have spend more time looking at tatting than I have tatting.
<AnitaH> some are far more active than others but those that are showing up everywhere
<AnitaH> tend to be great for answering your questions too
<AnitaH> that is why they go everywhere is looking to help others :)
<Mimi> me too Brenda - virtual tatting sometimes takes over :)
<AnitaH> lol yup
<bctoadlover-N> how many times do you do a new pattern?
<bctoadlover-N> I am finding I do something once and then I want to try others
<bctoadlover-N> I am wondering if I should stick with a pattern until I get it 'right'
<Mimi> I'm the same way Brenda. I was getting really bored doing that hexagonal doily
<AnitaH> i have to really like something to do it more than once
<Mimi> Main reason for me to repeat a pattern would be to make sure I understood a technique that wasn't easily found elsewhere to try
<AnitaH> if you find a pattern you really like then you wont mind sticking with it
<bctoadlover-N> Do you think I can still improve my tatting though if I keep doing different things
<Mimi> or because someone wants one as a gift:)
<AnitaH> deffinatly
<Mimi> Yes you can Brenda. 
<bctoadlover-N> thank goodness.
<AnitaH> you will still be practicing the same techniques... just different orders 
<Mimi> But if you stick with easier techniques for a while, you may find it easier to progress to harder ones later
<Mimi> but you can do the easier techniques in many different patterns.
<bctoadlover-N> I am working on the awareness ribbon right now trying to get the two color technique down.
<bctoadlover-N> what are you working on mary
<AnitaH> ok ladies thanks for comming but i am now having difficulty seeing my computer screen :(
<AnitaH> have to get away from the computer now
<AnitaH> night all
<MaryR> I'm still working on the bookmark
<bctoadlover-N> thank anita, maybe see you in a group sometime.
<AnitaH> and dont forget to email me if you have any questions
<Mimi> Night Anita, thanks and good luck on your move
<MaryR> gnight
<AnitaH> thanks :)
<AnitaH> night
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<bctoadlover-N> oh that bookmark, you sure picked a hard project to learn on!
<MaryR> I've been told it's a very simple design
<Mimi> It's a beautiful one, though... sometimes it takes beauty to motivate me to keep on trying
<Mimi> I think it has all beginner techniques.
<Mimi> but you had a rather complex color scheme if I recall?
<MaryR> just 2 color
<bctoadlover-N> what was the link for that?
<MaryR> it's not a public design...I got permission from the person who holds the copyright to do it
<Mimi> there was a photo, though
<MaryR> yes
<Mimi> And what I meant by complex was that you were doing more than just rings in one color and chains in another
<Mimi> that's the easiest
<Mimi> it's when you have rings in 2 different colors, or chains in 2 different colors, that it gets more complex
<Mimi> How's it coming along?
<MaryR> but I wasn't doing that...it was simple 2 color and it's not going well...I'm about to give up on it
<bctoadlover-N> I have a folder on my computer I put pictures in of tatting I like to look at again and again.  Not that I want to do them, I just like to look.  And then the more I learn the more I can see how they are stitched.
<MaryR> yes I have some pictures of things I like too
<bctoadlover-N> I like that Polish guy Jan's work.
<bctoadlover-N> I would love to tatt like him.
<Mimi> not only will you be able to ppick out how they were done, you may eb able to count knots and make your own!
<Mimi> He tats beautifully, and his designs are nice too.
<Mimi> I'm not too sure of "jan's method" yet for offsetting the picots, but it does look nice
<bctoadlover-N> Does he do books and patterns for sale do you know?
<MaryR> who is this person?
<bctoadlover-N> I didn't understand where he was coming from until I did it.
<bctoadlover-N> I would just reverse my stitch order like when you do a split ring.
<Mimi> http://www.frywolitka.slupsk.pl/index_en.php?id=_about_me Eye Candy!
<Mimi> I believe he might sell in Poland, but I have not heard that he has developed any ability to sell internationally
<Mimi> There would probably be a LOT of chatter on the tatting lists if he did as a lot of us have admired his work.
<bctoadlover-N> Thank you for your help mimi, do you have any of your work on the internet anywhere's?
<Mimi> I have an old website where I keep some patterns
<bctoadlover-N> well I think I will call it a night and go have some supper. bye.
<Mimi> Url escapes me
<Mimi> I'm trying to find it
<Mimi> http://home.netcom.com/~ntrop/mimihome.html
<MaryR> what size thread is the most commonly used?
<Mimi> Totally to the taste of the tatter, Mary
<Mimi> Some swear by size 80
<Mimi> I tend to use 20-40
<bctoadlover-N> thanks.
<Mimi> Mostly because I'm a bit nearsighted and I have trouble seeing the stitches in size 80
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<Mimi> But size 80 does make beautiful dainty results
<MaryR> ok thanks
<MaryR> Have a nice summer
<Mimi> YOu too Mary, keep tatting!\
Session Close: Wed Jun 14 19:24:24 2006