Session Start: Wed Apr 05 17:49:14 2006 Session Ident: #tatchat * Now talking in #tatchat Good evening! Who's here? Hi Mimi! * Tatter154 has joined #tatchat Hello - did you change your nick yet? /nick "name" * Tatter154 is now known as AnitaH * Tatter651 has joined #tatchat * Tatter651 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatter651) Hi Anita hi mimi how are you We appear to have one student... not sure yet who they are? I'm fine, how are you doing? doing well tatter what is your name? I wonder if it's Michelle, who can't read frequently while at work? Carmen. I cannot change my nickname Oh, hi Carmen! * Tatter is now known as Carmen carmen hi!!!!!!! I wonder where everyone is? Hi Anita and Mimi! how are you tonight carmen? looks like carmen has lots of individual attention tonight lol I'll say! I wonder if we should even lecture, then? Maybe just field questions and see if we can keep up with her? carmen do you have anything you wanted help with? do you know how to do SR? * Tatter has joined #tatchat welcome tatter Yes I know how to do SR tatter put your name in the lower right corner and hit enter * Tatter896 has joined #tatchat * Tatter896 is now known as Yvonne hi yvonne I am here had not had a chance to do tatting lately hi not a problem yvonne how are you tonight Wow, 3 students now! doing fine lol our class is growing tatter type "/nick your name" TATTER TYPE /NICK YOUR NAME OK ALL EVERYONE SIGN IN PLEASE ANITA HOBDEN, LONDON ONT, AHOBDEN@HOTMAIL.COM APRIL 5, 2006 Yvonne, Redford, Michigan vonmarie@mac.com Carmen - Lima - Peru carlat@viabcp.com MIMI ARE YOU GETTING A LOG FOR TONIGHT? MIMI DILLMAN, SNOHOMISH, WA ntrop@ix.netcom.com ALREADY ON TY AND RECORDING I REALLY HAVE TO SWITCH TO MIRC SO I CAN DO THAT MYSELF TOO * Tatter has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) IT'S EASY TO USE I FIND HAS EVERYONE LOOKED AT LESSON 4 YET? I DID! I did looks good YVONNE DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO SR'S? no and I have not had a chance to play with it either OK DO YOU HAVE SHUTTLES HANDY? GOOD PUN LOL PUN????? OK I AM SLOW MIMI WHAT DID I MISS LOL ok SHUTTLES ARE HELD IN THE HAND :) OK YVONNE STARTING WITH 2 SHUTTLES WOUND AND JOINED (CTM OR TIED) LOL OK MIMI SORRY I'LL STOP DISRUPTING START A RING DO 4DS-4DS THE SHUTTLE YOU DID THESE STITCHES WITH WILL BE SHUTTLE 1 http://www.picotnet.com/TatOnline/spring_instruction.htm LOOKING AT THIS SITE YOU CAN SEE PHOTOS OF HOW YOU PUT DOWN SHUTTLE 1 do the ds to the knot? AND TURN YOUR HAND SO YOUR PALM IS FACING THE CEILING DS SHOULD BE AFTER THE KNOW KNOT SO YOU ARE USEING THE KNOT AS YOUR FIRST PINCH POINT http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/SplitRings.htm HAS A GOOD DIAG OF THIS SHOWS WHERE THE KNOT IS SUPPOSED TO BE TO START THE FIRST SECTION 12LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU GET THE FIRST BIT 12CARMEN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AT ANY POINT PLEASE JUMP IN IT'S DIFFERENT FOR NEEDLE TATTERS, SR ARE SO MUCH EASIER, RIGHT CARMEN? 12LOL.... SHOULD HAVE ASKED ABOUT NEEDLE OR SHUTTLE 12YVONNE YOU ARE SHUTTLE RIGHT? yeah 12I DIDNT THINK TO ASK AND I KNOW CARMEN SAID SHE CAN DO IT ALREADY I have tried both. I use shuttle most of the time for SR NEEDLE/SR USES UP TOO MUCH THREAD? 12IT DOES USE ALOT ON THE NEEDLE TATTERS 12HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU PLAN FOR THE EXTRA 12YVONNE HOW ARE YOU DOING WITH THE FIRST SIDE? ok 4 ds p 4ds? i got that 12YES 12OK NOW PUT DOWN SHUTTLE 1 12TURN YOUR PALM UP TO THE CEILING 12AND PICK UP SHUTTLE 2 12http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/SplitRings.htm 12http://www.picotnet.com/TatOnline/spring_instruction.htm 12THESE PAGES HAVE GOOD PHOTOS AND DIAGRAMS TO SHOW THE POSITION OF YOUR HAND FOR THE SECOND SIDE same circle right? LOL I'VE HEARD PEOPLE CALL THIS HAND POSITION "THE DEAD SPIDER" * Tatter has joined #tatchat 12WHEN YOU USE SHUTTLE 2 TO TIE THIS SIDE YOU WILL BE CAREFUL NOT TO TRANSFER YOUR STITCHES 12YES THE SAME CIRCLE WITH THE BACK OF THE HAND DOWN, AND THE FINGERS IN THE AIR, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE (WELL, LESS 3 LEGS OF COURSE) 12YOU ONLY STITCH YOUR HAND POSITION 12IF YOU ARE USING 2 COLORS OF THREAD YOU WILL NOTICE THAT EACH HALF OF THE CIRCLE WILL BE A DIFFERENT COLOR 12THIS IS BECAUSE YOU ARE TATTING THE FIRST HALF AND WRAPPING THE SECOND (NO "POPPING" OF THE STITCHES) 12DOES THIS MAKE SENSE YVONNE? no 12http://www.picotnet.com/TatOnline/spring_instruction.htm 12LOOK AT THIS SITE 12SEE FIG 3 THE CHANGE IN HAND POSITION? 12(TURNED UP FROM FIG 2) you ring the second color around the hand ? 12NO YOU ARE USING THE SAME RING AS FROM THE FIRST HALF OF THE SR all I get is the 1st color 12YOU WRAP THE SH1 THREAD AROUND YOUR HAND, DO THE FIRST HALF OF YOUR SPLIT RING 12DO NOT TAKE THIS OFF YOUR HAND!!!! 12TURN YOUR HAND TO THE CEILING 12PICK UP SH2 12WITH SH2 YOU DO THE DS (THOUGH IN REVERSE ORDER) WITHOUT FLIPPING THE KNOTS ?? back then front? 12YES 12IF YOU DID THIS UP TO THE SH2 PART THEN YOU MAY BE FLIPPING THE KNOTS BY ACCIDENT 12YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO FLIP THE KNOTS SO YOUR RING WILL STILL CLOSE 12DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? 12http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/SplitRings.htm got to do over I got it on the first color 12HAS A BETTER DIAG TO SHOW THE 2 COLORS 12JUST HARD TO SEE HOW THE HAND IS POSITIONED 12TATTER PLEASE TYPE "/NICK YOUR NAME" 12YVONNE LET ME KNOW HOW ITS GOING..... * Tatter is now known as Cecilia 12CARMEN WAS IT YOU THAT SAID YOU WERE DOING NINAS PATTERNS? HI CECILIA! 12HI CECILIA HI EVeryone! Sorry I'm late. 12CECILIA DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO SR'S? 12HAVE YOU LOOKED AT LESSON 4 YET? yes. to both questions 12OK :) 12YVONNE? YOU UNDERSTANDING NOW????? 12GETTING THE 2 COLORS RATHER THAN ONE? Yes Anita, since I like to make jewelry Nina's work is my favorite hang on 12ON YVONNE 12CECILIA DO YOU USE BEADS YET? 06sure do. ;-) 12LOL YOU 2 ARE MAKING THIS CLASS EASY ON ME :) 12SO LONG AS YVONNE UNDERSTANDS MY BUMBLING WE WILL BE DOING GREAT LOL I keep getting the first color tis ok 12YOU MUST BE FLIPPING THE KNOT ON THE SECOND SIDE YVONNE YVONNE, WHEN MAKING THE 2ND HALF OF THE SPLIT RING, YOU DO THE DS MOTION WITH THE SHUTTLE, BUT Cecilia, do you make beaded jewelry? YOU WRAP THE STITCH ONTO THE THREAD ACROSS YOUR PALM 12YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL TO KEEP YOUR RING TAUGHT WHEN WORKING WITH SH2 DO NOT ALLOW THE PALM THREAD TO FLIP HOW LONG DID WE YELL "FLIP, FLIP, FLIP"?? WELL, WE CHANGED OUR MINDS LOL\ 12LOL THAT'S WHY THE IDEA TO USE THE THREAD OVER THE PALM POSITION well I am not getting it 12GOT TO ADMIT WHEN I STARTED SR'S I HAD HUGE PROBLEMS WITH IT MYSELF I will work on it later THAT WAY, YOUR MIND CAN DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE POSTION TO FLIP AND THEH POSITION NOT TO FLIP PRACTICE AT HOME IS BEST. 12YVONNE I AM ONLINE MOST DAYS IN THE AFTERNOON AND HAVE A WEBCAM IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT BEING DONE 12JUST LET ME KNOW 12http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/SplitRings.htm AND YVONNE, ALSO HAVE A PEEK AT http://www.gagechek.com/slb/demo/demo.html SHARON'S TATTING DEMOS IN MOVING PICTURES 12THIS SITE HAS SOME GOOD PHOTOS OF BEADS ON AND OVER PICOTS WE'RE DESCRIBING METHOD #2 12NOT NINA'S STYLE BUT THIS IS MORE COMMON WHEN IT COMES TO PATTERS FOR THE NOVICE TATTER 12AT LEAST I THINK SO NO RINGS ON THE SPLIT RINGS PAGE DO YOU MEAN JANE'S HOME PAGE? 12??? MIMI 12SORRY I AM CONFUSED 12IS EVERYONE WITH ME OR ARE WE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING STILL? SO AM I... THE SITE WITH THE BEADS IS: ?? THE LAST LINK YOU GAVE WAS JANE'S SPLIT RING INSTRUCTIONS? I have Georgia's page 12http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/beads.html OK THANKS 12SORRY HAD G'S SITE UP BUT WAS NOT THE ADDRESS IN THE WINDOW:( 12NOT SURE HOW THAT HAPPENED 12DIDNT THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE 12LOL 12OK EVERYONE HAVE THE RIGHT PAGE NOW? 12(NOW THAT I HAVE EVERYONE LOST) GOT IT, AND IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE BEAD LESSONS. 12I AGREE I LIKE RAINBOWS, SO COLORFUL AND CHEERFUL 12FIRST PIC IS BEADS ON AND OVER A PICOT 12WHEN ADDING BEADS ON A PICOT THESE MUST BE LOADED ON YOUR THREAD BEFORE STARTING * Cecilia has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 12BEADS OVER THE PICOTS CAN BE ADDED LATER AS YOU WORK 12IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS PLEASE STOP ME 12HOW TIGHT/LOOSE/OR NUMBER OF BEADS CAN CHANGE THE LOOKS OF A PATTERN ALOT 12AND MAKE IT LOOK MORE INTERESTING THAN JUST TATTING ALONE * Tatter has joined #tatchat 12MOST DESIGNERS WILL GIVE VERRY CLEAR DIRECTIONS OF HOW TO LOAD BEADS (ORDER) ONTO YOUR SHUTTLES 12BUT IF THERE IS A SH1 AND SH2 NOTED IN THE LOADING YOU GENERALLY HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THEY ARE THINKING YOU WILL KNOT THE DHUTTLES TOGETHER * Tatter185 has joined #tatchat 12IF YOU ARE DOING CTM REVERSE THE ORDER OF ONE SET OF BEADS SO THEY WILL BE STRUNG IN THE RIGHT ORDER 12DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO EVERYONE? YOU REVERSE ONLY IF STRINGING ALL TOGETHER, RIGHT? 12THAT IS WHAT I HAVE FOUND I SHOULD SAY, YOU *DON'T* REVERSE IF STRINGING ALL AT ONCE 12IF YOU ARE TYING THE THREADS TOGETHER AFTER STRINGING EACH SHUTTLE THEY WILL BE IN THE RIGHT ORDER 12FROM THE START * Tatter185 is now known as Cecilia BUT THE START IS AT THE END FO THE THREAD... SO YOU HAVE TO THREAD THE LAST BEADS FIRST. OR AM I HAVING A SENIOR MOMENT (AGAIN) WB CECILIA... THIS IS WHERE GEORGIA WOULD START TEASING ABOUT NEEDING SEAT BELTS TO STAY CONNECTED WHEN AOL DROPS HER :) 12IN REVERSING THE ORDER OF ONE SET OF BEADS, WHEN THEY ARE WOUND ON THE SECOND SHUTTLE THEY WILL REVERT BACK TO THE ORDER THEY ARE NEEDED IN yep - blew me away :-) 12YES MIMI SH2 BEADS GO ON LAST BEADS FIRST OK THANKS 12SO IF YOU WANT SM, MED, LG ON 2 SEPERAT SHUTTLES WOUND CTM YOU WOULD THREAD SM, MED, LG, LG, MED, SM AND THEN WIND SH2 12THIS WOULD HAVE THE 2 LG BEADS AT THE START OF BOTH THREADS 12MAKE SENSE EVERYONE? RIGHT... BUT WHAT WILL THE TATTING LOOK LIKE? 12DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU PUT IN :) 12GENERALLY BEADS FROM ONE THREAD WILL BE ON YOUR CHAINS, THE OTHER THREAD WILL HAVE BEADS FOR THE RINGS 12THIS IS WHY DESIGNERS ARE SOMETIMES REALLY SPECIFIC ON COLORS TO USE 12IT CAN TAKE ALOT OF THINKING ON ORDER TO GET THE BEADS JUST WHERE YOU WANT THEM 12IN THE PATTERN\ 12THOUGH IT IS WORTH THE EFFORT ONCE DONE 12THE PATTERNS FOR THE LESSON GEORGIA GAVE US TO LOOK AT ARE AT THE END OF THE PAGE 12http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/beads.html 12TAKING THE TIME TO TRY A FEW OF THESE WILL DEFFINATLY BE WORTH THE EFFORT 12AND YVONNE YOU CAN TRY THESE EVEN IF YOU HAVNT MASTERED THE SR YET 12THEY ARE RING AND CHAIN PATTERNS htp://handtatting.tripod.com/howtoforneedletatting/id12.html Add a bead to the center of a split ring hehehe will have to try them, they are beautiful * Retrieving #tatchat modes... 12THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL 12ADDING BEADS ALWAYS ADDS ANOTHER ELEMENT OF INTEREST TO TATTING THESE PATTERNS ARE YET ANOTHER REASON TO THANK SHARON BRIGGS (SAME AS DID THE VIDEO DEMOS) wish my grandmother could this stuff CARMEN, I COUDLN'T GET TO THAT PAGE? ERROR (EVEN AFTER I CORRECTED FOR THE HTP)?? 12IN ALL HONESTY I THINK ANY DESIGNER DESERVES OUR THANKS..... I ALWAYS LOVE LOOKING AT NEW IDEAS 12AND THERE ARE SO MANY BEAUTIFUL WORKS GIVEN FOR US TO USE 12ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON BEADS? 12I KNOW WE HAVNT REALLY GONE IN DEPTH ON IT BUT..... 12MOST CASES THE BEAD IS PLACED IN LIKE A PICOT WOULD NORMALLY BE howtos s missing 12CARMEN ONCE THE BEADS ARE STRUNG ON YOU ONLY HAVE TO MOVE THEM UP TO YOUR TATTING WHEN YOU COME TO THE SPACE YOU WANT THEM 12EG IF YOU WANT 4DS*4DS WITH THE "*" BEING A BEAD 12YOU DO 4DS BRING A BEAD UP AND DO 4DS AGAINST THE BEAD 12I AM NOT GOING INTO NINAS TYPE OF BEADING AS THAT IS MORE COMPLEX..... JUST STICKING WITH THE BASICS FOR NOW Sorry, I mean a 's' is missing in the link....... 12LOL OK http://handtatting.tripod.com/howtosforneedletatting/id12.html wow, easy!! 12WE ARE GOING OVER TIME A BIT BUT JUST WANT TO ASK IF ANYONE HERE HAS JOINED IN ON MONDAYS CLASSES YET? CAN DO IT SIMILARLY WITH SHUTTLE, BRB WITH LINK I have been to a few 12OR HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE EXAMPLE OF THE CLASS AND LOG FOR THE MONDAY NIGHT CLASSES YET 12CARMEN AND CECILIA? http://janeeborall.freeservers.com/tonyabeadsr.htm TO PUT BEAD IN CENTER OF SPLIT RING IN SHUTTLE TATTING IT'S A LITTLE BIT FIDDLY TO TENSION UP BUT GREAT FUN EFFECT IS NICE no not yet IF NOT, DO YOU FEEL PREPARED ENOUGH TO DO SO SHOULD TIME PERMIT? 12OK IN THE CLASS NOTES ARE 2 LINKS,,,, ONE TO A CLASS PAGE AND ANOTHER TO THE LOG FOR THE CLASS 12I PUT THIS IN SO YOU CAN LOOK AT WHAT THE CLASS IS LIKE 12RATHER THAN BEING THROWN IN NOT KNOWING WHAT TO EXPECT 12I THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT IF YOU CAN DO AVERYTHING COVERED IN THSES CLASSES 12YOU WILL FIND G'S CLASSES ARE EASY ENOUGH TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH 12THOUGH PLEASE DONT ANYONE GET THE IDEA YOU ARE NOT STILL WELCOME HERE ALL WELCOME, BUT THE REPETITION MIGHT GET A WEE BIT DULL :) 12MOST OF THE MONDAY NIGHT CLASSES TEND TO BE DONE AT A LEVEL YOU SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO MANAGE Yes, easier than Begginners class 3 Lol 12AND ANY NEW TECHNIQUES ARE GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS FOR 12EVEN IF YOU JUST SIT IN A FEW TIMES TO "LURK" YOU MAY FIND YOU CAN PICK UP SOME GREAT IDEAS INDEED CARMEN, THAT ONE WAS JAM-PACKED 12AND FIND SOME NEW LINKS THAT MAY BE HELPFUL 12LIKE I SAID CARMEN YOU ARE ALL WELCOME BACK FOR ANY CLASS YOU MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN EVERYTHING FROM :) ok OR KEEP WRITING WITH QUESTIONS... JUST ASK CECILIA, YOU MIGHT GET A BOOK BACK :)) 12EVEN IF YOU ONLY REPEAT ONE LESSON FOR A FEW SESSIONS IT IS BETTER THAN GIVING UP 12LOL MIMI YOU SENDING BOOKS OUT NOW ;) a very helpful book ;-) what book? SORRY, I TEND TO RUN ON A LITTLE BIT WHEN WRITING 12LOL NOT A BOOK, JUST A VERY LONG EMAIL MESSAGE IN REPLY TO A QUESTION :) 12HEY SO LONG AS IT WORKS ahh ok 12DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? Anita and Mimi, Thank you very much for all your help!! 12WE HAVE RUN A BIT OVERTIME SO I DONT WANT TO KEEP EVERYONE TOO LATE DE NADA CARMEN HAPPY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP... I HOPE IT DID. 12NICE TO SEE YOU CARMEN:) well thank you YOU'RE WELCOME TOO YVONE 12YVONNE IF YOU NEED MORE HELP WITH THE SR PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL OR MESSAGE ANY TIME I do have to go likely will go back through the links as I have time KEEP AT THAT SPLIT RING Thank you Ladies! Appreciate the Help! 12I AM ON MSN MESSENGER AS ANITAL76@HOTMAIL.COM I am a college student so my time is limited these days OK, WELL ONE DAY... IT CAN BE A LONG TERM GOAL I TATTED WHILE READING WHILE IN COLLEGE TO KEEP ME AWAKE IN SOME OF THE BORING BOOKS and I am trying ot learn how to knit 12I WENT FOR A LONG TIME WITHOUT DOING SR.... IT CAN BE DONE :) hmm interesting idea KNITTING WHILE READING WAS EASIER THOUGH hehehe my goal is to learn knitting and crocheting by the end oof the year I GOT 3 AFGHANS DONE DURING MY FRESHMAN SPRING SEMESTER - HISTORY AND A LIT CLAS...! I graduate in august and so I wll need something to keep me busy\ YOU'RE WELCOME TOO CECILIA, IT WAS A PLEASURE. 12WHAT ARE YOU TAKING? Business classes 12COOL Bachelors degree in Business Management and all taken online ;) 12WOW ONLINE, WOW Sorry, I must go. Good night all. 12NIGHT GOOD NIGHT CECILIA. THANKS AGAIN. so the online class idea is not new * Cecilia has left #tatchat 12NO SOMETIMES IT IS EASIER THIS WAY it is but you have to be motivated to succeed * Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) THAT'S RIGHT, YOU DO. 12DEFFINATLY 12SLACK OFF AND YOU LOOSE IT COMPLETELY anyway I better go TALKING ABOUT SELF-DIRECTED LEARNING OR THE DOUBLE STITCH ?? lol 12OK I HAVE TO GO AS WELL thank you again 12NIGHT YVONNE * Yvonne has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) SORRY SAW ANOTHER PUN COULDN'T RESIST,A FAILING OF MINE 12LOL MIMI YOU ARE BAD ;) Good night!! 12ok night carmen GOOD NIGHT ALL, I'LL POST THE LOG Session Close: Wed Apr 05 19:20:45 2006