# Speaker Impedance.

> > A discussion on the Fun With Tubes email forum prompted the creation of this page. What is the impedance of a speaker at different frequencies? Is an eight ohm speaker really eight ohms? These questions will be answered below.

> > # Not Frequency Response!

> > The curves presented below are NOT the frequency response of the speakers being tested. They are the impedance of the voice coils and associated crossover networks in speakers that have them. Note: (I would like to run frequency response curves but I can't find my calibrated microphone. I put it in a safe place that is so safe I don't know where it is.)

> > ## Instrumentation.

> > The instrument used to make these measurements is a SYSCOMP CGR-101.

> > ## data Presentation.

> > Some of you may have difficulty with the idea of presenting impedance in dB. But remember that dB is a ratio. In this case we are using the equation,

> > dB = 20 Log (V/I)

> > The network analyzer function of the CGR-101 plots a graph which is,

> > dB = 20 Log(V(Channel B) / V(Channel A))

> > So all I have to do is apply a voltage to channel A which is directly proportional to the current through the DUT (device under test). A transistor with a resistance in its emitter that is large compared to the resistance in the collector is an excellent current source.

> > Figure 1 Current Source to Drive Speaker.

> > The signal source has a low impedance and is DC coupled which eliminates the need for any biasing resistors in the base circuit. The CGR-101 inputs have no AC mode which requires an external blocking capacitor. I am sure there is at least one person shouting at their computer screen "THERE IS DC ON THE SPEAKER VOICE COIL!!!" True. But it is so small as to have no detectable effect on the results. If you own one of these instruments and you want to duplicate the results on your own speakers you may have to adjust the value of the 3.9 k ohm resistor. It's purpose is to trim the gain of the current source so it gives exactly -30 dB on the graph with an 8.00 ohm resistor connected as the DUT. The impedance is found by,

> > Z = 8 x 10((dB+30)/20)

> > For example suppose the dB reading from the graph is -25 dB.

> > Z = 8 x 10((-25+30)/20) = 14.23 ohms.

> > ## Reference Resistor = 8.000 ohms.

> > We will start by verifying the accuracy of the instrument. The resistor used has been verified to have a resistance of 8.000 ohms DC to 100 kHz and 8.00 ohms to 1 MHz

Figure 2 Photo of 8.000 ohm Reference Resistor.

Figure 3 Graph of reference resistor.

> > The graph deviates from -30 dB by +/- 0.13 dB. This is a resistance error of 1.51%. We will learn later that the instrument isn't really this accurate.

> > ## Eight Ohm Dummy Load Connected by its Two Foot Cable.

> > The measured resistance of the dummy load = 7.992 ohms through its 2 foot cable. It was measured with a DER EE LCR Meter model DE-5000. They are available all over the web, just do a Google search.

Figure 4 Photo of 8 ohm Dummy Load Resistor.

Figure 5 Graph of Dummy Load Resistor.

> > The graph starts out at -30.00 dB. Rises to -29.87 @ 90 to 100 kHz.
> > The phase = 4.8 degrees @ 75 to 100 kHz.

> > ## Koss Speaker.

> > These little speakers were originally part of a reverb package made by Koss, the headphone people. The idea was to place the speakers at the rare of the listening room for a pseudo quadraphonic effect. The electronics box had the reverb and two power amplifiers to drive the speakers. I was not impressed with the effect and eventually I threw the electronics away but kept the speakers. For a long time I used them as monitors for doing mixes. They are currently in disuse but I don't plan to get rid of them. They have a real good sound.

> > ## First with Short Leads.

Figure 6 Photo of Koss Speaker.

Figure 7 Graph of Koss Speaker Connected by Short Leads.

> > Freq (Hz) | Magnitude (dB) | Impedance (ohms) | Phase Angle (degrees) | Remarks
> > 20 | -30.67 | - | 10.8 | -
> > 50 | -29.20 | - | 12.0 | -
> > 100 | -27.20 | - | 13.2 | -
> > 131 | - | - | 0.0 | Angle zero crossing.
> > 137 | -24.67 | - | -6.0 | Magnitude peak.
> > 200 | -28.90 | - | -27.6 | -
> > 500 | -31.33 | - | -10.8 | -
> > 1 k | -31.60 | - | -8.4 | -
> > 3.56 k | - | - | 0.0 | Angle zero crossing.
> > 4.28 k | -33.87 | - | - | Magnitude valley.
> > 10 k | -32.46 | - | 25.2 | -
> > 20 k | -30.13 | - | 37.2 | -
> > 50 k | -26.06 | - | 44.4 | -
> > 100 k | -22.40 | - | 49.2 | -

> > ## Koss With Five Foot Cable.

Figure 8 Graph of Koss Speaker Connected by Five Foot Leads.

> > Freq (Hz) | Magnitude (dB) | Phase Angle (degrees) | Impedance (ohms)
> > 20 | -30.53 | 9.6 | -
> > 50 | -39.20 | 12.0 | -
> > 100 | -27.20 | 12.0 | -
> > 132 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 145 | -24.53 Peak | - | -
> > 200 | -28.67 | -26.4 | -
> > 500 | -31.33 | -10.8 | -
> > 1 k | -31.47 | -8.4 | -
> > 1.37 k | - | 0.0 | -
> > 4.70 k | -33.73 Min | 7.2 | -
> > 10 k | -32.46 | 28.2 | -
> > 20 k | -30.00 | 37.2 | -
> > 50 k | -25.87 | 45.6 | -
> > 100 k | -22.13 | 49.2 | -

> > The errors between short and long leads are within the accuracy of the instrument as will be shown later. The long leads consisted of 5 feet of number 16 lamp cord, sometimes known as zip cord. This should lay to rest the claims that the speaker leads make a difference. It should but it probably won't.

> > ## Radio Shack Minimus 0.5

Figure 9 Photo of Minimus Speaker.

> > Radio Shack's Minimus line of products was interesting. It was a small low priced set of audio components. I used to own the amplifier and one Minimus 7 speaker. Why only one? I don't remember. I no longer can find either one so I must have given them away. A friend who was also an audio experimenter once bought 12 Minimus 0.5 speakers to play with what he called Google-aphonic sound. He tired of it rather quickly and gave me 4 of the speakers. I must have had some experiment of my own in mind but I don't remember ever carrying it out. So I have these 4 little speakers. I might as well run the impedance on them and I'll do short and long leads again to get another benchmark on the effect of leads.

> > ## Short Leads.

Figure 10 Graph of Minimus Speaker Connected by Short Leads.

> > Freq (Hz) | Magnitude (dB) | Phase Angle (degrees) | Impedance (ohms)
> > 20 | -30.53 | 1.2 | -
> > 50 | -30.67 | 3.6 | -
> > 100 | -30.53 | 8.4 | -
> > 200 | -29.39 | 18.0 | -
> > 300 | -24.67 Peak | 0.0 | -
> > 500 | -30.40 | -4.8 | -
> > 544 | -30.53 Min | - | -
> > 1 k | -30.00 | 7.6 | -
> > 2 k | -29.20 | 16.8 | -
> > 10 k | -24.67 | 37.2 | -
> > 20 k | -21.60 | 45.6 | -
> > 50 k | -17.07 | 49.2 | -
> > 100 k | -13.20 | 51.6 | -

Figure 11 Graph of Minimus Speaker Connected by Long Leads.

> > Freq (Hz) | Magnitude (dB) | Phase Angle (degrees) | Impedance (ohms)
> > 20 | -30.80 | 1.2 | -
> > 50 | -30.67 | 4.8 | -
> > 100 | -30.67 | 7.2 | -
> > 200 | -29.46 | 18.0 | -
> > 296 | -24.80 Peak | 0.0 | -
> > 500 | 30.40 Min | -3.6 | -
> > 600 | -30.40 Min | - | -
> > 1 k | -30.13 | 7.2 | -
> > 2 k | -29.20 | 16.8 | -
> > 10 k | -24.67 | 38.4 | -
> > 20 k | -21.47 | 48.6 | -
> > 50 k | -16.93 | 50.4 | -
> > 100 k | -13.07 | 50.4 | - |

> > Things seem to have changed in the wrong direction. I figure this is due to instrument warm-up rather than the effect of the leads. I think the effect of speaker leads can be largely discounted at least for the length tried so far.

> > The next day I tried running the curves again as close together in time as I could. The frequencies of the peak were in agreement with each other but were 291 Hz. So I guess when you pay 190 dollars for an instrument you aren't going to get HP Agilent accuracy and stability.

> > Due to the size of the next speakers to be tested it is no longer practical to connect them with short leads. The 5 foot length of number 16 cable will be used for all of the remaining speakers.

> > ## Sony APM-X250.

Figure 12 Photo of Sony Speaker.

> > I was actually forced to buy these speakers to get a Sony component TV tuner and a stereo sound adapter. Sony didn't understand the concept of component systems. They sold components as a package and wouldn't sell them parts at a time. Sony got out of the component TV business because their systems didn't sell. I wonder why? Sony was also rather stupid about the Beta VCR system. It was clearly a superior system but they refused to allow other companies to manufacture it. Meanwhile JVC would license anyone who asked. How different the history of TV would have been if there had been some intelligence at Sony. I stored the speakers for a while and eventually found a use for them.

Figure 13 Graph of Sony Speaker.

> > Freq (Hz) | Magnitude (dB) | Phase Angle (degrees) | Impedance (ohms)
> > 10 | -31.20 | 9.6 | -
> > 20 | -30.93 | 15.6 | -
> > 50 | -27.87 | 37.2 | -
> > 84.7 | -15.47 Peak | - | -
> > 87.9 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 100 | -17.87 | -36.0 | -
> > 200 | -29.73 | -31.2 | -
> > 390 | -31.2 Min | -3.6 | -
> > 426 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 500 | -30.80 | 2.4 | -
> > 1 k | -30.00 | 21.6 | -
> > 2 k | -27.87 | 38.4 | -
> > 5 k | -22.67 | 54.0 | -
> > 10 k | -17.47 | 58.8 | -
> > 20 k | -9.07 | 50.4 | -
> > 28.6 k | - | 0.0 | -
> > 29.1 k | -2.00 | - | -
> > 50 k | -12.00 | -76.8 | -
> > 100 k | -22.80 | -85.2 | -

> > Now I see why this speaker makes some tube amplifiers oscillate.

> > ## Radio Shack Realistic Nova 7.

Figure 14 Photo of Nova 7 Speaker.

Figure 15 Graph of Nova 7 Speaker.

> > Freq (Hz) | Magnitude (dB) | Phase Angle (degrees) | Impedance (ohms)
> > 10 | -29.33 | 14.4 | -
> > 20 | -28.27 | 26.4 | -
> > 49.7 | -14.67 Peak | - | -
> > 50.6 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 100 | -28.53 | 26.4 | -
> > 139 | -29.73 Min | - | -
> > 180 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 200 | -28.93 | 3.6 | -
> > 500 | -24.80 | - | -
> > 544 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 643 | -24.13 Peak | - | -
> > 1 k | -27.07 | -31.2 | -
> > 2.12 k | -32.00 Min | - | -
> > 2.42 k | - | 0.0 | -
> > 5 k | -30.13 | 18.0 | -
> > 10 k | -28.13 | 25.2 | -
> > 20 k | -26.00 | 31.2 | -
> > 50 k | -22.93 | 33.6 | -
> > 100 k | -20.40 | 36.0 | -

> > ## JVC SK 500II

Figure 16 Photo of JVC Speaker.

> > I bought this set of speakers along with a JVC receiver to be the sound component of the AV (audio video) system that superseded the Sony components. I gave away the receiver after buying a Radio Shack AV receiver that would tune AM/FM/TV. I hung on to the speakers and they are still serving that function.

Figure 17 Graph of JVC Speaker.

> > Freq (Hz) | Magnitude (dB) | Phase Angle (degrees) | Impedance (ohms)
> > 10 | -29.20 | 25.2 | -
> > 15.3 | -26.40 Peak | - | -
> > 18.0 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 20 | -27.33 | -2.4 | -
> > 42.0 | -29.33 Min | - | -
> > 42.1 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 50 | -29.06 | 3.8 | -
> > 72.4 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 75.8 | -24.80 Peak | - | -
> > 100 | -29.33 | -27.6 | -
> > 167 | -31.73 Min | - | -
> > 190 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 200 | -31.47 | 0.6 | -
> > 500 | -29.73 | 19.2 | -
> > 1 k | -26.27 | 20.4 | -
> > 1.80 k | - | 0.0 | -
> > 1.91 k | -23.07 Peak | - | -
> > 5 k | -32.40 | -31.2 | -
> > 7.45 k | -34.40 Min | - | -
> > 7.59 k | - | 0.0 | -
> > 10 k | -33.47 | 16.8 | -
> > 20 k | -29.73 | 37.2 | -
> > 50 k | -24.93 | 44.4 | -
> > 100 k | -21.33 | 44.4 | - |

> > ## SPL 99.

Figure 18 Photo of SPL 99 Speaker.

> > SPL stands for Sound Power Laboratories. I have saved the best for last. These are my primary listening speakers which are part of the best system in the house. I bought them in 1972, I think, After some careful listening. The woofer is an acoustic suspension type. About 10 years ago the rim around the woofer disintegrated as old plastic is want to do and I had to replace the woofers with some from Radio Shack. The bass was never quite as good after that but there was nothing I could do about it. I think they were about $200 or $250 each. That was a lot of money in those days when you could buy a house for $18,000 and a new car for $3600.

Figure 19 Graph of SPL 99 Speaker.

> > Freq (Hz) | Magnitude (dB) | Phase Angle (degrees) | Impedance (ohms)
> > 10 | -30.67 | 9.6 | -
> > 20 | -30.40 | 8.4 | -
> > 50 | -26.40 | 9.6 | -
> > 53.4 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 54.4 | -25.87 Peak | - | -
> > 69.4 | - | -20.4 Min Ang. | -
> > 100 | - | -4.8 | -
> > 106 | -31.33 Min | - | -
> > 144 | - | 0.0 | -
> > 200 | -29.60 | 9.6 | -
> > 356 | -27.47 Peak | 0.0 | -
> > 500 | -28.53 | -10.8 | -
> > 1 k | -31.33 | -9.6 | -
> > 1.42 k | - | 0.0 | -
> > 1.50 k | -31.87 Min | - | -
> > 2 k | -31.73 | 8.4 | -
> > 5 k | -29.73 | 20.4 | -
> > 10 k | -27.73 | 26.4 | -
> > 20 k | -25.73 | 27.6 | -
> > 50 k | -23.33 | 30.0 | -
> > 100 k | -21.07 | 34.8 | -

> > I think you can tell by the graphs and numbers that these really are my best speakers.