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dondep 12/1/2003 3:16 am EST

Re: Mystery Of Dr. Dan Burisch !!!IMPORTANT!!!


For the cast of characters in this drama, which began before this thread did, here are the main players:

Dr. Dan Burisch - brilliant microbiologist employed by Majestic 12/Naval Research Laboratory at S4, a top-secret facility near Area 51. Also co-author of "Eagles Disobey: The Case for Inca City, Mars". -:- CREDENTIALS

BJ Wolf (Marci): co-author of "Eagles Disobey...", who began receiving emails from colleagues of Dr. Burisch inside S4 that exposed his real job, which had to do with analyzing tissue from an EBE (Extra-terrestrial Biological Entity), specifically a J-rod [an entity from our future, via Zeta Reticuli]. The purpose of analyzing this tissue was to determine the cause of a neurological degradation the EBE was enduring, and hopefully find a cure for it. The first explosive document leaked, the "smoking gun", was the now-famous "Q94-109a" document. It was followed by numerous emails to BJ who confronted her co-author and asked if it was all true, to which he reluctantly admitted it was.

Marcia McDowell (BJ Wolf)

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:11 pm  

Post subject: Peace

"Bill, the process has never stopped. This does not rise to the level of a war. This is a professional disagreement. We have the potential to do many great things as time goes along. Dan is giving his testimony even as we speak. That is my whole point - I have stopped nothing. I won't let anything derail this debriefing process or devalue it. It is too important to everybody, which is why I am making sure that nothing whatsoever, will hold this debriefing hostage. Nor, will I allow this debriefing to move in a direction where it would languish and fade into nothingness.
Does what I do make everybody happy? Hell no!

I am all for peace Bill. But I am not a shrinking violet, as some one we both know often says. I fight for what is right, and I fight hard. Majestic did not recruit me because I was everybody's buddy........they accepted me exactly as I am... a wildcard (as I have already told some very dear friends) but a wildcard who they know will get the job done right, regardless.

Bill Hamilton: The world-reknowned UFO researcher (Bill Comments) who BJ contacted to help get to the bottom of the story that this email correspondence was alluding to. Bill came to know Dan (a/k/a Dr B) personally and had several meetings with him, interviewing him at length on several occasions, most notably on Sept 18, 2002. It was a videotaped copy of this interview that I received, during a year-long surveillance which is now ending (if we are to believe Preserve Destiny/Peace and the other non-illuminati humans at the heart of Majestic 12) which prompted my own involvement in this story.

Majestic 12:

Anon. 8/24/2004 12:49 am EDT (VOL.20) Page 2 GLP

MJ-12´s full title is the Majestic-I2 Special Studies Project of the National Security Council. It is referred to as MJ-I2 for short, but only informally and never in internal documents. MJ-12 is so secret and highly compartmentalized that only those at the top understand what it is they are protecting. The majority of MJ-12 personnel are security personnel involved in covering up the UFOs´ activities on Earth as well as the government´s complicity with them. Most of the rest are technicians and scientists involved with finding applications for the UFOs´ gifts of technology and intelligence. A tiny percentage are involved in directly negotiating with the Ultra-terrestrials, receiving their technology and intelligence, and setting MJ-12 policy.

The element that binds the diffuse elements of MJ-I2 together is MAJIC clearance. Anything related to the U.S. government´s contact with the Ultra-terrestrials is classified MAJIC: material requiring MAJIC-level dearance for access. MAJIC-level clearance is the highest security classification available in the United States government, and makes the holder a "super-user" in the intelligence community. MAJIC dearance holders are able to access information and enter facilities no matter what organization the MAJIC clearance holder belongs to, or which intelligence agency has the information or operates the facility. Former members of MJ-I2´s inner circle retain MAJIC clearance after they leave government service and even certain extremely wealthy and influential private citizens have acquired MAJIC clearance. MJ-12 is diffuse. Its membership, facilines, intelligence files, and budget are spread out among the CIA and the various branches of the Department of Defense. MJ-I2´s current membership is confined to select members of the NSC, the CIA, the DIA, the NSA, the NRO, the U.S. Space Command, the Air Force Intelligence Agency, the Army Intelligence and Security Command, and the Office of Naval Intelligence. Over the years, the CIA has been losing its influence in MJ-12 due to encroachment by the NSA, DIA, and the military intelligence branches. The Department of Defense controls the lion´s share of MJ-12´s resources and personnel. MJ-12 is well organized an...

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From Steven Greer's information:

A. One third of secret (old MJ-12) group wants disclosure
SI: Are you saying that, since the late 1940s or 50s, the US Government has known about the UFO phenomenon and has tried to keep that information away from the public in a conscious way?
SG: Well, yes and no. And the reason I have to say yes and no is that you must define 'US Government'. The group that I referred to, which has been called MJ-12, or Majestic 12, and alternately PI-40 (I don't know what that stands for), should not be confused with the US Government. For example, I spent nearly three hours briefing a sitting director of Central Intelligence, a CIA director, about this because he couldn't find out anything on the subject. So when someone says 'the US Government' is holding back information, what they have to understand is that 'the US Government' and 99.9 per cent of the people in it have no knowledge of this subject. I'm referring to relevant members of the Senate Intelligence Committee that I briefed, relevant members of the White House staff and the CIA, and very relevant senior members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The questions then become: who is managing this and how is it being managed? These questions cause the most disturbed reaction in people in public life when they find out that there is an organization that exists which is largely based in the private sector with significant representation within the military and intelligence community, which essentially behaves independently of normal checks and balances that are necessary if you're going to have anything pretending to be a democracy.
SI: Are some of the witnesses that you have spoken with actually members or former members of this covert group that has been covering up the UFO story?
SG: Yes.
SI: Why are they coming forward now?
SG: This gets very complex. The US Government, as you and I think of it, and other governments, don't know about this subject 99 per cent of the time. The elements that do know about it work closely with large high-tech aerospace firms that do a lot of contracting with the US Government. Among those within that group, there is no unanimity on how to handle this issue. Because of what we have been doing, there are a number of them who feel that the time has come for disclosure on this. About one-third of the elements within MJ-12 feel that way. But there is still a majority, particularly the older members, who want to keep this quiet at least until after they have died. So even within that group it's not monolithic.
SI: How many people do you estimate are involved in this covert group?
SG: There are probably 200 or 300 who really know what's going on, but only a couple of dozen who are key to the operation, and I know who a few of those people are.
SI: Would you describe them as oil company executives, or aerospace executives, or military people? How would you describe them in a general sense?
SG: All of the above, and not necessarily the obvious suspects, by the way. I'll give you an example. After I met with the Director of Central Intelligence, I went to a southwestern city in the US, which is probably all I should say, and met with a member of MJ-12 who was quite interested in what we were doing. They were quite horrified, I think, in the sense that we were not only determined but successful in what we set out to do. He turned to me, around a huge conference table in this mansion - this is a man who is a very high-tech figure and a genius and very much involved in super-computers and other things - and said: "You really don't need to be talking to the CIA Director about this because he doesn't know anything about this and he's not going to know anything about it. If I were you, I'd be talking to people like me, people who are involved in doing a lot of high-tech work, covertly, for contractors to the US Government. I would be talking to certain heads of think-tanks; I would be talking to certain people who are concerned about the religious implications of this, and certain religious orders." He gave me a very specific litany, and at the time I thought this man must be crazy. It turned out he was 100 per cent correct. It was very hard for me to accept this. It's much harder for someone on the Senate Intelligence Committee or the Joint Chiefs of Staff to accept that this is how this is being managed.

B. Some know, some don't So we put together briefing materials and had meetings. The main thing is that this is an inside game. I hate to use that term, but this has mainly been a process of educating two classes of people who are "insiders."

One are the people who are on the inside, who should know, but don't, such as Presidents, CIA directors, and so on. The other part of it is educating, from a new paradigm, the national and international security control group - which some call MJ-12 - that deals with these issues. That is a committee of about two or three hundred people, and I know a number of them.

The issue here is to educate them to the need for disclosure, for safe applications of technologies, and for this matter to be handled wisely. We feel that it has been handled promiscuously and dangerously. If you look at some of the things that have happened over the last fifty years, aside from it eroding the rule of law and democracy, the actual handling of the subject itself has been dangerous. It's a very dangerous thing for example, for the Commander in Chief of Atlantic Command, Admiral Harry Trane, not to have had adequate information on the subject and to scramble jets up and down the eastern seaboard trying to force down one of these objects. [This refers to an alleged military-UFO encounter from May 1981 - Ed.]. This kind of behavior, which has mainly taken place in a vacuum of secrecy, is a danger to the national security. You have people who have a need to know who can't find out anything. And then you have other people who do know and are controlling it, but they're in a cult of secrecy that becomes hermetically sealed.

C. Even Minister of Defense can't find out I was in Britain meeting with the Ministry of Defence, and also the former head of the Ministry of Defence, Lord Hill Norton. He's a Sea Lord, a Five Star Admiral. At one point he asked, "Why the hell wasn't I told about this when I was head of the Ministry of Defence?"

I said "Sir, what would you have done while you were head of the MoD, and you found out that there was a clandestine group that was transnational - e.g. transcended national borders - that had this information. That had lied to the Presidents, Prime Ministers, and high officials. that had used hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to work on thies projects, and had sequestered them inside private corporate structures. And had also, literally, engaged in elimination - murder - in order to keep it secret?"

He looked at me and said, "I wouldn't have stood for it for one bloody minute!" I said, "That's why they weren't going to tell you, and that's why they will never tell you." http://www.disclosureproject.org/PhenomenaMagazineSGInterviewSept102004.htm

Majestic-12 Group Special Operations Manual (1954)

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The Cooper Files (unsubstantiated)

GRUDGE contains 16 volumes of documented information col- lected from the beginning of the United States investigation of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) and Identified Alien Crafts (IACs).

The project was financed by CIA confidential funds (nonappropriated) and money from the illicit drug trade. Partic- ipation in the illegal drug trade was justified in that it would identify and eliminate the weak elements of our society. The purpose of Project Grudge was to collect all scientific, techno- logical, medical and intelligence information from UFO/IAC sight- ings and contacts with alien life forms.

This orderly file of collected information has been used to advance the United States Space Program. MJ-12 is the name of the secret control group. President Eisenhower commissioned a secret society known as THE JASON SOCIETY (JASON SCHOLARS) to sift through all the facts, evidence, technology, lies and deception and find the truth of the alien question. The society was made up of 32 of the most prominent men in the country in 1972 and the top 12 members were designated MJ-12. MJ-12 has total control over everything. They are desig- nated by the codes J-1, J-2, etc., all the way through the members of the Jason Society.

The director of the CIA was appointed J-1 and is the Direc- tor of MJ-12. MJ-12 is responsible only to the President. MJ-12 runs most of the world's illegal drug trade. This was done to hide funding and thus keep the secret from the Congress and the people of the United States. It was justified in that it would identify and eliminate the weak elements of our society. The cost of funding the alien connected projects is higher than anything you can imagine. MJ-12 assassinated President Kennedy when he informed them that he was going to tell the public all the facts of the alien presence. He was killed by the Secret Service agent driving his car, and it is plainly visible in the film held from public view.

A secret meeting place was constructed for MJ-12 in MARYLAND and it was described as only accessible by air. It contains full living, recreational, and other facilities for MJ-12 and the JASON SOCIETY. It is code named "THE COUNTRY CLUB." Only those with TOP SECRET/MAJIC clearance are allowed to go there. MAJI is the MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE. All information, disinformation, and intelligence is gath- ered and evaluated by this agency. This agency is responsible for all disinformation and oper- ates in conjunction with the CIA, NSA, and the Defense Intelli- gence Agency. This is a very powerful organization, and all alien projects are under its control. MAJI is responsible only to MJ-12. SIGMA is the project which first established communications with the aliens and is still responsible for communications. PLATO is the project responsible for diplomatic relations with the aliens. This project secured a formal treaty (illegal under the Con- stitution) with the aliens.

The terms were that the aliens would give us technology. In return, we agreed to keep their presence on earth a se- cret, not to interfere in any way with their actions, and to al- low them to abduct humans and animals. The aliens agreed to furnish MJ-12 with a list of abductees on a periodic basis. MAJIC is the security classification and clearance of all alien connected material, projects, and information. MAJIC means MAJI Controlled. AQUARIUS is a project which compiled the history of alien presence and their interaction with Homo Sapiens upon this planet for the last 25,000 years and culminating with the Basque people who live in the mountainous country on the border of France and Spain and the Syrians. GARNET is the project responsible for control of all infor- mation and documents regarding this subject and accountability of the information and documents. PLUTO is a project to evaluate all UFO/IAC information per- taining to space tel [TRANSMISSION GARBLED] POUNCE is the project formed to recover all downed/crashed craft and aliens. REDLIGHT is the project to test fly recovered alien craft.



The Secret Government: The Origin, Identity, and Purpose of MJ-12 by Milton William Cooper

Bill Cooper's Site -:- Majestic 12 Summary


MJ12 NAMES => www.dnamagazine.it/mj12.html (Italian)
http://babelfish.altavista.com (translator)



Operation Majority By William Cooper


Dondep ~ Site Admin ~ danburisch.forumup.org ~ 5/11/06


The Culture of Majestic 12

"...I wrote the following as a glimpse inside of the Majestic operation to give the reader some insight into the machinations of late, and I trust I haven't given away anything too sensitive.

For many of the readers of this 'saga', to truly understand what has happened both on this forum and what will be happening you really have to understand the players in Majestic, how they inter-relate, the world they live in and the burdens of knowledge they carry. First and foremost among the Maji is ..." (continued)...


1/27/07 ~ Dr Dan Burisch ~ "THE NEW GROUP OF 12"

" ... The NEW team, are they good guys or bad guys?" I haven't met everyone, yet. I found out, very recently (a couple days ago), for sure, that I would be meeting the new group of 12. The ones I have met, so far, are actually spiritually deeper, more reflective, and more introspective individuals than the majority of the former Majestic. (This should not be taken to imply...whatsoever...as a general description of any difference between Scots and Yorkies. My statement is applied to the individuals, neither the societies in which those individuals may find their membership, nor the goals of those same societies.) "Are they in effect now?" Mmm...they sure are. "And if so, what is their effect?" They have been having, from what I hear from others, positive effects on the relationship between the secret societies and governments, including bridging many gaps between the religious and basically secular societies.


International Aerospace Alliance

How about some interesting technology spin-offs from the Philadelphia experiment? Well, there are a lot of them in use by the CIA and the NSA, as well as other corporate and government agencies. There is a portable unit that can render an individual invisible. The NSA is known to use those on a fairly regular basis.

There is also a UFO research based covert organization that is believed to have them? And what would that be?

Well, its a super secret international organization that is funded by all major governments. It performs research on aliens and alien technology, coverup operations, and also does espionage. The group is negatively oriented and is considered to have no positive attributes in relation to other humans. It is called the International Aerospace Alliance.

How does it fit into the hierarchy of command and control?

It's connected to MJ-12, which is believed to be headed by Kissinger[?] at this time. It is also connected to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the President. AIL type units are also connected to the MJ group.


The Committee of the Majority (a/k/a the CotM on this thread): A super-secret organization, Masonic-based (according to Dr B) that meets in Wash. DC and is comprised of the most powerful people on the planet; for a long time even MJ-12 reported to them, as evidenced by the Q94..document. This group is supposedly now-defunct, since it was split into 16 pro-disclosure to the public of the alien presence, and 16 against. The 17th (there are/were 33 members) either abstained or was otherwise nullified. The Rancher memo (Rancher is Bush, for those uninitiated) supposedly ordered that Project Lotus and Staarflower be removed from oversight by MJ-12 and turned over to the CotM instead, on May 18th, 2003 .... [DonDep]



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The Illuminati gave themselves that name, which means "the enlightened," but they don't publicly refer to themselves that way.  They work in secret but the results of their efforts are seen throughout your world.  Illuminati members lead national governments and their regulatory agencies; global economic agencies and banking; European royalty; international corporations; the United Nations; legal, policing and justice systems; educational institutions; all media forms; church hierarchies; the various medical and prescription drug establishments.  I may have forgotten some areas, but in short, there is NO area of your world that is not Illuminati-infiltrated and influenced.

           On Earth they are the people whose greed and control got way beyond their soul-level agreements, which was to serve in powerful positions to balance their own and a multitude of others' chosen karmic experiencing.  At the point when that had been accomplished and the collective karma had been satisfied, the intensity of greed and control in the Illuminati members was to have quickly reversed into the equitable sharing of their resources and power.  

            For some time, with full knowing of their soul-level agreements and the consequences of not abiding by those, the most powerful members of this group have refused to follow the agreements.  Rather, this hard-core few intend to continue their amassing of the planet's resources and suppression of entire nations.  They have been told that they will not be able to do this, but they are deaf and blind to all urging of the light, and in their intention to relinquish nothing, they are using every possible means to keep lower-level members of the group fighting for this as well.  Of those who turned to the light in accordance with their soul contracts, some have been assassinated.  Family members have been killed as a warning to those in positions of influence where they still are needed by the top leaders.  In the more weak-willed members, bribery is a successful tool because greed is in the hearts of all Illuminati.  Threats of exposing embarrassing information about personal lives is another common control method.

            Now, above the Earth human Illuminati top level are the dark souls of the reptilian civilization, some of whom are embodied as humans and living on the planet.  They are working in conjunction with their dark reptilian brothers off-planet, whose goal is total domination of Earth, if not by absolute control, then absolute destruction.  The light forces of the universe, including reptilians, are in confrontation with the darkness of any civilization.  What is happening on your planet is a reflection of the universal conflict, and regardless of universal progress, your beloved Earth will be freed from the clutches of darkness as she rises farther into higher vibrations where love reigns overall.  

"... I see that I did forget to mention several areas of Illuminati power: the entertainment field, communications licensing, environmental and intelligence-gathering groups; and the royal families definitely include those in the Mideast too, but I think that not identifying the Zionists is my most serious omission.  

When I speak of Illuminati control or influence, it does not mean that all members or all groups are actively involved; nor do I often repeat that there are two factions within the Illuminati competing with each other for supremacy.  What my Illuminati designation always means is the factions' common darkness: their intent to rule the world and cause suffering through fear, civil and international wars, religions based on lies and divisiveness, impoverishing nations by controlling their governments and natural resources, environmental abuse, disease, tyrannical regimes, corporate corruption, unfair laws and taxation, seriously flawed education, promoting the illegal drug industry and legally drugging the population, and on and on.  The writer of the comment is right that "Illuminati…is full of dead-end roads"—Yes! and in this truth, all of your world can rejoice!

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LAMEDVAVNIKS: (saints) The Lamed-Vav Tzaddikim are also called the Nistarim ("concealed ones")

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by Steven M. Greer, MD

"... You have to understand the compartmented nature of these interlocking interests that are keeping all this secret.
They are mainly in the corporate, institutional, financial and technology sectors. The government of "We, the People" is the least important component of it, and this includes the military, the CIA, the NSA, the NRO, Army intelligence, Air Force intelligence—all of that is window dressing for an operation that's quite outside it. The real action is a hybrid group that is quasi-governmental but mostly privatised and utterly transnational—and completely illegal ..."


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Dan's Guardian Cherubim Angel

MJ#8: When it walked in to the lab where Dan was, everyone else had fled from the noise and the light around it.

MJ#8: Security tried to attack it and were suspended in mid air outside the lab, then dropped on the ground.

MJ#8: It walked right up in back of Dan and Dan just staired straight ahead.

MJ#8: Here it comes! : Dan said-

MJ#8: "You here to help with the project?"

DONDEP: [laughs]

MJ#8: Then Dan swung around in the chair and looked up at it and smiled.


MJ#8: They had some kind of conversation. The only thing that was remembered by everyone is

MJ#8: the Angel screaming "Holy is the Lord God!"

DONDEP: in English?

MJ#8: It broke all the plexiglass in the entire wing of the facility.

MJ#8: No, in Hebrew, but I can´t remember the words.

KIWI COCKY: why aren´t the Illums scared then?

MJ#8: They are.

PAGEMARKER: God bless you both, maji.

JUNIPER SAJE: ty, for explaining it so that the common man can understand, almost visualise these scenes and concepts.

DONDEP: (was Gus Weiss really a luciferian then?)

MJ#8: I hope so, if not I am really scared. MJ#8: Yes

JUNIPER SAJE: Harry will be very sad to have missed this

BEN READIN: Kodoish, Kodoish, Kodoish, Adonai Saybatoth ..."

Robert 4/26/2004 12:11 am EDT

Re: Dr. Burisch and His Enigma: Volume 6:) Page 29

Boomerang and Crackajack- The angel does visit Dan. It has nothing to do with the Sepher Rezial, in fact the first visitation was nearly a year before Dan ever learned of the book. Dan, with spiritual guidance from a Rabbi and myself, have looked at the book together. It is alleged to be the first book written and handed directly to Adam. As Dan is suspicious of any book in the first place, we have all looked at it together. Dan especially was interested in the Holy names of God as presented in the book as he was looking for combined letter-shape matches in the evidence from his research.

Dan´s communication with the angel is highly structured and begins always with a prayer to Almighty God, he sings the original Holy, Holy, Holy,.... with the angel, in Hebrew. I am the only person that has been allowed close enough to actually watch in person. Afterward, a pillar of burning light opens in front of him, between him and the angel. Forms come out of the pillar and he is instructed by the angel. He does little talking but asks questions sometimes. The visitation always ends in the same ways as it begins, with the Holy, Holy.......

This angel is as authentic as they come, and is in my opinion from the throne of God. It opens several pairs of beautiful wings and has a face that sees you no matter where you are in comparison to it.

Boomer (Robert) 11/13/05 (After 2nd visit with Dan & friends) Updates Part 6

"...Another issue that was discussed in some depth was the language of the 'light being' (sometimes known as an angel or cherubim). Forget the language, Hebrew, Chinese, Russian, Innuit..... it doesn't matter who says what, because apparently different people reported hearing different languages according to their own disposition or native language. The same seems to apply to the appearance of the 'being'. Different colours/shapes being reported by different people, even though the being was seen by the individuals at the same time and place...."

Oct 17, 2006, (Majestic initiated forum)


Brian was warned about the Fruit of the tree of life by Dan, that it was protected by Cherubim just as the OT says it is.

He didn't listen to Dan and tried to spiritually confront the forces watching over the work that Dan is doing with Marci. And went more wacko than he was already. John said he wanted to confront the Cherubim. Now he's hallucinating about angels on motorcycles. Robert took it on himself to do experiments with Lotus after being warned not to do it by Dan. Not only was he unsuccessful, but the little unholy trinity wannabees of Edgars-Brian-Robert were taught another lesson when Robert's unethical tape of Dan and Marci "erased itself"? That was Robert's report. He left the internet and came back sounding like Nightshade. That says it all. A real researcher got too close and started to go "off." He has since come back to the real world. Thanks God.

Dan warned everyone from the start that the research was on matters that were protected.
Just because they are protected doesn't mean that it's evil, unless in your world God is impotent and no longer has any angels to do the protection. He's not impotent in my world.I like to read about Dan's research, but I keep my hands off it. I know, because I believe in God and angels, that if I was to grab at the Fruit of the tree of life the Cherubim will guard the way and I may lose my mind without ever know it was leaving. Just like the poor souls above. They chose not to listen. That was their choice to make. My worry here is directed to Marci. When Dan is feeling better he will be working on the Lotus DVD with you all. You two adepts need to be very careful with what you say about Lotus in a DVD and how you handle the information in the presentation.I'm more concerned about that than any of the other projects. Maybe it is wiser to not do it at all. The few who know about Lotus don't have a way to spread the information too widely. Images and video were first stolen from Dan and presented to the public without his permission. Maybe you ought to rethink it? Your industry contacts are working with it under the guidelines Dan has provided and so it will be put to good use before it's found in 2091 in the "SOMEWHERE". Rethink? - BC

Anon-...This is what the cherubim in the Garden of Eden, who guard its entrance, signify. The Garden of Eden signifies all knowledge, wisdom, understanding and interconnectedness that exists at all levels, degrees and spheres of the nine circles of Creation but most importantly it signifies the knowledge, understanding and application of the True Absolute Nature of the Most High and everything that relates to the Most High and the Lord God Jesus Christ, One Indivisible Creator of everything.

"And so he drove the man out and posted at the east of the garden of Eden the cherubs and the flaming blade of a sword that was turning itself continually to guard the way to the tree of life." NWT, Gen. 3:24

DonDep (Don Deppeler) ~ ~

Posted at GLP Forum 4/24/05

..."Actually, to be technically correct I was a member of the Young Marxist League, the Youth Int´l. Party (Yippies), then the Young Republicans, my own political party I founded called the L.A.S.T. Party (Local Association of Sovereign Trust) and finally an ´official´ precinct captain of the Democratic Party (a self-described ´radical moderate´). I´m actually a ´communitarian´, believing in rugged individualism within the context of a larger organic community that works TOGETHER, not for the benefit of the monied classes primarily"

Dondep wrote: 6/05 eaglesdisobey.org

As for the real heroes of the DB Saga, the Ravens, keep in mind that they put us in touch with Dan, who by webcam, personality and text was shown to be the genuine thing. Of course you are welcome to believe it was a Lukilu and not the real Dan, but I've had enough personal corroboration from Dan himself to know it was he. No, these 'Ravens' didn't just buzz me and say, "hey, here's the truth-of-the-day". For the most part they simply connected me/us to Dan for the chats, and would tell me/us if there was to be a meet, if there was a URL that showed something pertinent (btw, a URL in one of the chats with a Raven is bogus, meant to make me/us think a certain member of the Maji was a certain individual who it was not, but I happened to know better so I just noted it in passing ).

I believe Dan is Dan, after all he's the one who has admitted lying about the lukilu nonsense. However the original reasons for why this whole drama was necessary seem to have been somewhat blurred.

Dondep wrote: As for beware, always be aware. Beware. Never accept everything you're told without doing some research and even looking inside yourself to see if it resonates. There are some issues I'm convinced Dan had been given a 'cover story' on (he notes those issues which he's learned of 2nd-hand) and some that simply don't resonate with me. At least yet. It doesn't mean I allow myself to fall prey to the goal of disinfo, which is to make me suspect EVERYTHING that comes my way. If a Raven came by with some info, I spent more time questioning him about questions I had than he/she/they seemed prepared to give, but after getting over the puzzlement they answered as best they could. Sometimes I could sense the limits of their understanding, so I put in a separate category to try to figure out later how it fit.

In this particular Dan case, the goal of 'disinfo' may not be what you think.


Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:45 am    

"...Bill, I think that the Zetas didn't use the 'bell curve' you spoke of, since they have no need to handicap themselves as our hi-IQ organizations do. Yes, I was a Mensa member - once gave a seminar on "The Origins of Creativity" at Princeton University at a Mensa conference - and I can tell you that even though many of the members there may have been brilliant in matters of science and math, many were also emotional children, and quite childish. It's a shame we don't have a measure for emotional maturity or even 'wisdom'; I'd rather be wise than have an IQ of 200. (My actual IQ is closer to that than it is to the average, but I won't get into the numbers game.....it's one example of a lack of wisdom disguised in a surplus of vanity.)..."

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dondep 7/2/2004 4:33 am EDT

Re: Re: Dr.Burisch and His Enigma: Volume 15:) GLP Forum

Moving right along, and in light of the fact that more of the ´interested few´ will be finding this thread soon, hopefully including George Noory and other media with a serious intent to discover whatever greater truths we can help find, I´ll suggest the following folks that appear in chronological order who can at least go on record as having interacted with Dr. Burisch.

First, we have Dr. Dan Burisch himself, who was a friend and co-author with one Marci McDowell, aka BJ Wolf. Their joint production as authors commenced around 1997 with the writing of "Eagles Unchained: The Case for Inca City, Mars". Marci/BJ was later inducted into majestic herself late last year, just as certain insiders began granting access to us here at GLP. So.....


Capstone Level:
The Maji. Includes the various "J´s". The Committee of the Majority. It is doubtful these people will EVER go on record.


Level 1:
Dr. Dan Burisch, PhD., USN (ret.) -->>Marci/BJ Wolf, currently Operations Director of Project Lotus since Dr Burisch´s retirement on June 1, 2004. Both of these individuals are Nobel Peace Prize nominees.


Level 2:
Marci/BJ Wolf -->> Bill Hamilton, to help her investigate Dr. Burisch´s REAL work at S-4 on an alleged J-Rod.


Level 3:
Bill H -->> Alan, director MUFON Nevada (?) and his wife Sandy; Winstons Smith, Linda Moulton-Howe, and tangentially Dondep, whom he sends a copy of the Sept ´02 video to in December of 2002.


Level 4:
Dondep -->> Human Subject #58-001/Dan and White Rabbit/Kate, beginning first GLP thread on Oct 2, 2003. Dondep also sends copy of video to -->> ClearEyez, RearView


Level 5:
A "Raven" and other insiders, working together, arrange for live webcam and chat interview with Dr. Burisch first with dondep, then Human Subject, then marcmann318, in Novemeber 2003. They also arrange for a similar interview of a very high-level member of the alleged Committee of the Majority, which has authorization over Dr. Burisch´s work, with dondep.


Level 6:
The ravens and others continue their secretive liasons with the burgeoning GLP group, with conferences between Dr. Burisch and the group taking place on a frequent basis. The GLP group interacting in these conferences include Crackajack, Boomerang, Kiwi Cocky/Sue, Harrdrawk/Harry, ClearEyez, Zack Savage, PageMarker/judas_of_galilee/Brian, ladystalyte, Human Subject, the bowlofsaki/Uncle John, UntamedPony/wildhorse, starryeyes, the wyzyrd, gisgai, Ben Wanting/Ben Readin´/Ben Thinkin´, silent_1120, jadian/Rachel, qfoam/Fire, and brief appearances by "boner" and "virikas1". Later, gaiaslotus/Mari and her husband Torch4Truth are added, and Harrdrawk´s wife Juniper_Saje/Jodi also join in some of these conferences. Phy(re)/Serge is also part of the group during this period, and also travels to meet with Dr. Burisch for the events at Rachel on May 30th/June 1st of this year. At this point, nearly all of the people at this level have interacted with Dan during these live conferences. And although controversial, Sterling/Wallrace should also be included in this group as he and Harrdrawk allegedly met with Dr. Burisch, albeit PERHAPS [pending further investigation] it had been a lookalike Dr. Burisch they met with.


Level 7:
These folks have for the most part been actively participating on the GLP thread since nearly the beginning, and although they may not have met with Dr Burisch they are all uniquely qualified to be part of the public discussion, having investigated this story to a reasonable degree; they also may be willing to go on record with their real names to state that they have come to know at least one fact: there is truly a Dr. Dan Burisch, and he is not an actor or figment of the imagination. In this group are Thessa, Ubleck, jalien, Publius, JAn Unknown/Kbum, Indred Cole, fool, nativehue, Pay Attention, Carrier Pigeon (who arranged for delivery of the data discs sent to the group from within Project Lotus), Ambilac/Howard, Wanderer/Rene, Nightshade09/Shady, Seion9/Angie, and am I forgetting anyone here?


Level 8:
These are people who are relatively new to the GLP group, having gotten involved publicly at least after the Dr Burisch conferences were discontinued (allegedly for having been discovered by the Maji, and finally when the last insider that had helped this group was ´apprehended´). Here are Dex, , JayRodney, My Two Cents, cynicalabsurdance/Rog, Majic1 (not to be confused with the REAL Majic #1 LOL!), Peter7 [creator of this website, since the internet inception of the Dan Burisch thread; front page Oct. 2 2003], Stealthskater, Illuminated One,and djunke/d0rfmeista (again, is there anyone missing that I have overlooked? If so, I apologize in advance) And welcome to Rayven; what a choice for moniker! lol!~.


A healthy cross-section from the above individuals, starting with Bill Hamilton, should be interviewed and questioned, if they are so willing to go on record, about this story and their involvement in investigating it. This would probably be the best method for bringing this very complex story out, and just to make a final point: I will volunteer to play ´devil´s advocate´ and present the best possible case for the Maji and why this has had to be kept secret in the past, and why we may never know the full truth. I´ll submit a FRIENDLY challenge to anyone else willing to submit a reasonably-researched hypothesis also in defence of the former Coverup, in that our efforts are in the interests of Disclosure. Remember that we will not succeed in anything that would overtly threaten the Maji, which would include naming the current roster publicly (they must of needs remain officialy anonymous although there are many clues and names buried in our research to date) ; this would probably entail some type of blanket amnesty for everyone involved in the Coverup, also in the interests of expediting Disclosure. I guess I should also add the disclaimer that I have not knowingly conspired or held discussions with any member of the Maji, other than perhaps the interactions that have taken place publicly here on this thread or the transcripts provided at the Library: http://www.scorpius.spaceports.com/~bemused/index12.html


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Heartlove (Ann)

Mar 21, 2007, peter7 wrote:

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I should tell you, we have read the comments. Marce, Dan, Mongrel, Brent, Owl, Rob and myself all said you're aces in our books. Love, A

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